I think he'll still be with the Bills.
I can't see it for most of those.I could see him on any of the following teams next year.
St. L
Pitt
Hou
NYG
Atl
SF
Watch out. The "age matters not mileage" people are about to come after you.It's amazing how fast these guys get old. I recall being very mad at Fisher during the 2,000 yard season because he was force-feeding a small rb the ball. CJ has been surprisingly durable during his career. I think a perfect scenario for him would have been if he had received 15 carries a game for 8 years, rather than be treated like a number 1 RB. He lost that top-end speed really quick. After the second year it was gone and I haven't seen it since. Now he's just another guy.
In season 1 and the first part of season 2, he hit angles I've never seen on an NFL field. That was fun to watch, but those days are long gone.
Agree 100% He had agility like no other back I had ever seen in regards to being able to shift ever so slighty (change his angle and direction).....going full speed.It's amazing how fast these guys get old. I recall being very mad at Fisher during the 2,000 yard season because he was force-feeding a small rb the ball. CJ has been surprisingly durable during his career. I think a perfect scenario for him would have been if he had received 15 carries a game for 8 years, rather than be treated like a number 1 RB. He lost that top-end speed really quick. After the second year it was gone and I haven't seen it since. Now he's just another guy.
In season 1 and the first part of season 2, he hit angles I've never seen on an NFL field. That was fun to watch, but those days are long gone.
This is nuts. As are the posts predicting he'll go be a backup to guys like Zac Stacy or Montee Ball. Johnson hasn't been the 2009 version of himself in a long time, but he's still a quality starting NFL running back. He'll be fully featured wherever he signs, assuming that the handful of teams that currently have someone significantly better don't throw cash at him.Greene is no worse than Johnson, who wouldn't hit the hole 50% of the time. That probably only means both are below average RBs.yikes...don't get why they'd want to roll with Greene...he's the definition of a below average RB.Rotoworld:
Chris Johnson admitted that he may have played his last game as a Titan.
Johnson sees the writing on the wall. He's owed $8 million in 2014, averaged 3.86 YPC this season, will turn 29 years old in September and said there's "no way" he'd accept a pay cut. The Titans are expected to release the talented and durable yet frustrating speed back that has been the face of their franchise for the last six years. Power back Shonn Greene, who is under contract through 2015, projects as Tennessee's 2014 starter.
Related: Shonn Greene
Source: Nashville Tennessean
No he's not. He should only be a change-of-pace back at this point.Coeur de Lion said:This is nuts. As are the posts predicting he'll go be a backup to guys like Zac Stacy or Montee Ball. Johnson hasn't been the 2009 version of himself in a long time, but he's still a quality starting NFL running back. He'll be fully featured wherever he signs, assuming that the handful of teams that currently have someone significantly better don't throw cash at him.Greene is no worse than Johnson, who wouldn't hit the hole 50% of the time. That probably only means both are below average RBs.yikes...don't get why they'd want to roll with Greene...he's the definition of a below average RB.Rotoworld:
Chris Johnson admitted that he may have played his last game as a Titan.
Johnson sees the writing on the wall. He's owed $8 million in 2014, averaged 3.86 YPC this season, will turn 29 years old in September and said there's "no way" he'd accept a pay cut. The Titans are expected to release the talented and durable yet frustrating speed back that has been the face of their franchise for the last six years. Power back Shonn Greene, who is under contract through 2015, projects as Tennessee's 2014 starter.
Related: Shonn Greene
Source: Nashville Tennessean
Yeah, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm not saying he's elite any more, but the past two years he's put up 1400+ YFS as the primary focus of opposing defenses on pretty crappy teams. Yeah, his YPC fell below 4.0 this year, but just last year it was 4.5. He's still as good as most guys outside of the obvious elite tier IMO.No he's not. He should only be a change-of-pace back at this point.Coeur de Lion said:This is nuts. As are the posts predicting he'll go be a backup to guys like Zac Stacy or Montee Ball. Johnson hasn't been the 2009 version of himself in a long time, but he's still a quality starting NFL running back. He'll be fully featured wherever he signs, assuming that the handful of teams that currently have someone significantly better don't throw cash at him.Greene is no worse than Johnson, who wouldn't hit the hole 50% of the time. That probably only means both are below average RBs.yikes...don't get why they'd want to roll with Greene...he's the definition of a below average RB.Rotoworld:
Chris Johnson admitted that he may have played his last game as a Titan.
Johnson sees the writing on the wall. He's owed $8 million in 2014, averaged 3.86 YPC this season, will turn 29 years old in September and said there's "no way" he'd accept a pay cut. The Titans are expected to release the talented and durable yet frustrating speed back that has been the face of their franchise for the last six years. Power back Shonn Greene, who is under contract through 2015, projects as Tennessee's 2014 starter.
Related: Shonn Greene
Source: Nashville Tennessean
The Jets were cashed strapped heading into this season, but made a bunch of wise moves in the offseason and will have Sanchez and Holmes (among others) coming off the books this offseason. They will have cap room, but are more in need of WR or TE help in free agency. If they still see CJ as a playmaker, perhaps they bring him in, but I think they'd rather resign Powell cheaply. Ivory finished the season looking pretty good as a feature back.FF Ninja said:. I would guess the Jets but I think I recall they are pretty cash strapped.
I'm sure the companies would be lining up for a mediocre, aging RB who has this face http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/003/080/830/hi-res-132685980_crop_650.jpg?1364942843 to be the face of their product.I spoke to someone tonight who was spit-balling that if CJ seeks six million or more(per) he won't have many suitors, but if he tries for 4-5 million then teams will lineup to get him. I thought this was real interesting to think about for him or any FA really.
On a new team would he make up some $ on jersey sales? big increase new jerseys, commercials and all? He raced a cheetah last year-pretty sure he's marketable.
Gopher State said:Oakland is the only team that will pay him what he wants
Al Davis is no longer running the team, McKenzie is making the football decisions now. McKenzie uses the Green Bay model for free agency. He won't overpay to land CJDorsey Levens?this happens all the time and for as long as I can remember though.I think the Falcons learned their lesson on overpaying aging rbs this year. I wonder if any Falcons fans at this point would rather have Jackson or somebody like Stacy, Lacy, Bernard, Bell, or even Micheal on their team.
I would venture to guess that most teams this year are going to look at that situation as a type a cautionary tale. Hence, CJ going to the Raiders, the only team that always does the opposite of what conventional wisdom suggests.
I suppose Corey Dillon, Ottis Anderson and Terry Allen are the best memories, but some old RBs do pan out.
I think teams draft a zillion young guys and see an old vet as a stop gap, time to truly develop a young back, someone to lean on etc.
Tomlinson did well, the Jets are the Jets, but he did well after SD. His former teammate Turner did OK in ATL albeit not old when he started there but he had some wear on those tires.
You mentioned Stacy and Lacy. I feel like the Rams have had a dozen RBs in the last five years besides Jax and Stacy. Green Bay hasn't drafted a good RB since...well I can't remember one since Green came from Seattle and Grant from NYG.
Suppose Green Bay never drafted a RB or drafted some smallish amount. All those free picks for other players would have been so much more talent.
No way he is going to be in Dallas. They are way over the cap now and will have trouble getting there.I think Dallas is a very likely spot. Murray's strong finish has people forgetting that Dallas was talking about their doubts about him being their feature guy. It was more about durability than production so I'm not convinced that his strong finish has changed their minds.
Chris Johnson said that if the Titans don't plan on giving him a bigger role next season, then he wants to go to another team.
Johnson, a strong candidate for release thanks to his $8 million 2014 salary and 3.86 YPC in 2013, is poking the bear here. "I feel like if they are not going to use me the way I am supposed to be used and let me be the horse, then I would rather them let me move on," he said. "Their money would be wasted on me." Johnson doesn't like that he hasn't topped 300 carries in any of the last three seasons and was often yanked in goal-line and short-yardage situations. He noted that in order to hit a home run, he has "to be fed." CJ?K is likely to get his wish as he's refusing to take any kind of pay cut, meaning his six-year reign in Tennessee is likely over.
Related: Shonn Greene
Source: Nashville Tennessean
Part of the issue in Oakland is that they are so under the cap that they are in jeopardy of paying penalties for buying under the cap floor. The cap floor rules are kinda odd (it's a cumulative floor for four years), but we can project the floor for 2014 in the neighborhood of $110mil, which means that while OAK has a lot of money to spend, they HAVE to spend a lot of money. OAK is almost obligated to overspend on a few FAs just to avoid the potential penalties. I don't think OAK is going to substantially overspend, but in reality, it actually may be a good idea for them to load a contract for CJ in such a way that he has a bigger cap hit in 2014 and allowing them to part ways in 2015. OAK is going to have to play some measure of salary cap gamesmanship here.Oakland is the only team that will pay him what he wantsAl Davis is no longer running the team, McKenzie is making the football decisions now. McKenzie uses the Green Bay model for free agency. He won't overpay to land CJ
Also, the Titans were 6-1 in games where Johnson had 19+ carries.Rotoworld:
Chris Johnson said that if the Titans don't plan on giving him a bigger role next season, then he wants to go to another team.
Johnson, a strong candidate for release thanks to his $8 million 2014 salary and 3.86 YPC in 2013, is poking the bear here. "I feel like if they are not going to use me the way I am supposed to be used and let me be the horse, then I would rather them let me move on," he said. "Their money would be wasted on me." Johnson doesn't like that he hasn't topped 300 carries in any of the last three seasons and was often yanked in goal-line and short-yardage situations. He noted that in order to hit a home run, he has "to be fed." CJ?K is likely to get his wish as he's refusing to take any kind of pay cut, meaning his six-year reign in Tennessee is likely over.
Related: Shonn Greene
Source: Nashville Tennessean
Now this I can agree with. I was refering to the other poster who said Raiders would overpay to land Johnson and that is not RM's way. However, I can see a scenario where he front loads a couple of contracts because of all the cap space.Part of the issue in Oakland is that they are so under the cap that they are in jeopardy of paying penalties for buying under the cap floor. The cap floor rules are kinda odd (it's a cumulative floor for four years), but we can project the floor for 2014 in the neighborhood of $110mil, which means that while OAK has a lot of money to spend, they HAVE to spend a lot of money. OAK is almost obligated to overspend on a few FAs just to avoid the potential penalties. I don't think OAK is going to substantially overspend, but in reality, it actually may be a good idea for them to load a contract for CJ in such a way that he has a bigger cap hit in 2014 and allowing them to part ways in 2015. OAK is going to have to play some measure of salary cap gamesmanship here.Oakland is the only team that will pay him what he wantsAl Davis is no longer running the team, McKenzie is making the football decisions now. McKenzie uses the Green Bay model for free agency. He won't overpay to land CJ
Come on now. I can totally get on board with getting him in space more, more touches as a receiver, and stuff like that. But Johnson was 5th in touches at RB this year. He's never been outside of the top 10 in either carries or touches among RBs the past five years. The volume has been just fine. Saying stuff like "it's unreal how underutilized he was" is complete hyperbole.Regardless of what I have said about Johnson thus far, I agree with his comments about them wasting their money. It was unreal how underused he was at times this past year considering how much they were paying him. It's like, he'd get hot, but then they'd take him out for a drive because it was predetermined that that would be Shonn Green's drive (which is moronic). When a RB gets hot, you ride him. Take the Thursday night game against Indy: Johnson had a monster 1st quarter - 2 scores and 70 yards on their first two drives - yet only got 9 carries the rest of that game. That is just horribly bad coaching.
what about all the times they put in Green or some other bum at the GL and didn't use him in passing game... You are a hyperbole sir couer de lion.Come on now. I can totally get on board with getting him in space more, more touches as a receiver, and stuff like that. But Johnson was 5th in touches at RB this year. He's never been outside of the top 10 in either carries or touches among RBs the past five years. The volume has been just fine. Saying stuff like "it's unreal how underutilized he was" is complete hyperbole.Regardless of what I have said about Johnson thus far, I agree with his comments about them wasting their money. It was unreal how underused he was at times this past year considering how much they were paying him. It's like, he'd get hot, but then they'd take him out for a drive because it was predetermined that that would be Shonn Green's drive (which is moronic). When a RB gets hot, you ride him. Take the Thursday night game against Indy: Johnson had a monster 1st quarter - 2 scores and 70 yards on their first two drives - yet only got 9 carries the rest of that game. That is just horribly bad coaching.
He turns 29 next September. He probably has a year or two left before he hits the wall, but he's definitely not young anymore. He's certainly at the point where his trade value has already taken a massive hit due to his age.Regardless when he lands, he will still be a weekly fantasy starter for you. He is young and talented, that's all I need to know now. If he could only keep his mouth shut, talking is not helping his value.
Disclosure: Dynasty C. Johnson owner.
So, you're okay with a RB lighting it up on the first two drives in the 1st quarter and then only getting 9 carries over the following 3+ quarters?Come on now. I can totally get on board with getting him in space more, more touches as a receiver, and stuff like that. But Johnson was 5th in touches at RB this year. He's never been outside of the top 10 in either carries or touches among RBs the past five years. The volume has been just fine. Saying stuff like "it's unreal how underutilized he was" is complete hyperbole.Regardless of what I have said about Johnson thus far, I agree with his comments about them wasting their money. It was unreal how underused he was at times this past year considering how much they were paying him. It's like, he'd get hot, but then they'd take him out for a drive because it was predetermined that that would be Shonn Green's drive (which is moronic). When a RB gets hot, you ride him. Take the Thursday night game against Indy: Johnson had a monster 1st quarter - 2 scores and 70 yards on their first two drives - yet only got 9 carries the rest of that game. That is just horribly bad coaching.
you had to either watch the games or go read the play by play textCome on now. I can totally get on board with getting him in space more, more touches as a receiver, and stuff like that. But Johnson was 5th in touches at RB this year. He's never been outside of the top 10 in either carries or touches among RBs the past five years. The volume has been just fine. Saying stuff like "it's unreal how underutilized he was" is complete hyperbole.Regardless of what I have said about Johnson thus far, I agree with his comments about them wasting their money. It was unreal how underused he was at times this past year considering how much they were paying him. It's like, he'd get hot, but then they'd take him out for a drive because it was predetermined that that would be Shonn Green's drive (which is moronic). When a RB gets hot, you ride him. Take the Thursday night game against Indy: Johnson had a monster 1st quarter - 2 scores and 70 yards on their first two drives - yet only got 9 carries the rest of that game. That is just horribly bad coaching.
Cortland cost them a bunch and some fans are displeased with him. It does seem he helped the younger players and wasn't like a total bust with the Rams but he definitely wasn't the impact CB they wanted.The Rams could also bring him in with Jeff Fisher connection and his best season ever in 2009.
never hurt, rarely fumbles; if he can find himself on a good team he'll be great value this yrHe turns 29 next September. He probably has a year or two left before he hits the wall, but he's definitely not young anymore. He's certainly at the point where his trade value has already taken a massive hit due to his age.Regardless when he lands, he will still be a weekly fantasy starter for you. He is young and talented, that's all I need to know now. If he could only keep his mouth shut, talking is not helping his value.
Disclosure: Dynasty C. Johnson owner.
Titans GM Ruston Webster failed to endorse Chris Johnson as his 2014 running back at coach Ken Whisenhunt's introductory press conference.
According to ESPN's Ed Werder, Johnson is "not likely" to remain with the Titans in 2014. This isn't new news, just further confirmation that the Titans are ready to move on from their enigmatic lead runner. Johnson isn't worth anywhere near the $8 million he's slated for 2014 after averaging just 3.86 yards per carry this season. His effort level wasn't there for all 16 games.
Source: Jim Wyatt on Twitter
Vandebosch didnt even play last yearCortland cost them a bunch and some fans are displeased with him. It does seem he helped the younger players and wasn't like a total bust with the Rams but he definitely wasn't the impact CB they wanted.The Rams could also bring him in with Jeff Fisher connection and his best season ever in 2009.
Wow does Cook look like a bust.
The Titans are expected to have at least half their roster new next year as they set up wayyyyy too many contracts to expire this year and the new owner wants house cleaning. There's chatter that anyone can be had in trade. I expect Fisher to get a whole lot of resistance after Cook and that the offseason is full of Titans going to Rams thoughts.
If it becomes a free for all type atmosphere and some former pro bowlers can be had at a cheap rate in trades....maybe.
The free agents are either expensive or a position the Rams are fine at.
I did see Vandenbosch(Titans/Lions) is a free agent and Fisher adored him. If cheap as expected, I could see Fisher wanting his motor around the young DL and providing depth. I think he'll also be super careful about the attitudes of the players they bring in too. He's got a nice young nucleus-there's no way he ever let's Austin around Britt.
It's possible either T could be moved due to age. A former all-pro, instant line improvement...maybe.
It's fun for us FF folks, but reality probably will not bring many Titans to the Rams.
I forgot when I saw him on free agent listsVandebosch didnt even play last yearCortland cost them a bunch and some fans are displeased with him. It does seem he helped the younger players and wasn't like a total bust with the Rams but he definitely wasn't the impact CB they wanted.The Rams could also bring him in with Jeff Fisher connection and his best season ever in 2009.
Wow does Cook look like a bust.
The Titans are expected to have at least half their roster new next year as they set up wayyyyy too many contracts to expire this year and the new owner wants house cleaning. There's chatter that anyone can be had in trade. I expect Fisher to get a whole lot of resistance after Cook and that the offseason is full of Titans going to Rams thoughts.
If it becomes a free for all type atmosphere and some former pro bowlers can be had at a cheap rate in trades....maybe.
The free agents are either expensive or a position the Rams are fine at.
I did see Vandenbosch(Titans/Lions) is a free agent and Fisher adored him. If cheap as expected, I could see Fisher wanting his motor around the young DL and providing depth. I think he'll also be super careful about the attitudes of the players they bring in too. He's got a nice young nucleus-there's no way he ever let's Austin around Britt.
It's possible either T could be moved due to age. A former all-pro, instant line improvement...maybe.
It's fun for us FF folks, but reality probably will not bring many Titans to the Rams.
Chris Johnson reportedly suffered a meniscus tear in Week 3 and will have surgery to repair it Tuesday.
In a credit to his underrated durability, Johnson didn't miss a game for the fifth straight season and wasn't even on the injury report until December. However, we wouldn't use this injury as a complete excuse for his meager 1,077 rushing yards on 3.86 YPC. Even with a vastly improved offensive line, the artist formerly known as CJ2K ran similarly to the way he did in 2011 and 2012, when he combined to average 4.25 YPC and gain 1145.5 rushing yards per season. Johnson's meniscus repair comes with a 4-6 week timetable, meaning he'll be nearly healthy by the time the Titans release him and he hits the open market in March. However, he'll be disappointed by the offers he receives as a 28-year-old back that's coming off knee surgery with 2,014 career touches on his resume.
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter