Where would Pryor go if he was in rookie draft this year? (1 Viewer)

[OrangeCurtain]

ESPN just reported that he isnt coming back to Ohio St, instead pursuing a professional career. So when can he sign with a team or when would supplemental draft be? And how have other dynasty leagues handled this?

 

[rzrback77]

ESPN just reported that he isnt coming back to Ohio St, instead pursuing a professional career. So when can he sign with a team or when would supplemental draft be? And how have other dynasty leagues handled this?

Canada

 

[Dez]

Also how does dynasty handle supplemental?

Simple for my 2 leagues I run we don't draft until late August so you just draft him as you would anyone else.For my FFPC league where we already had our draft he becomes a guy you would throw a blind bid on 1 week before the season starts if you want him.

 

[GridironMenace]

How about undrafted. A QB that can't throw the ball isn't a model for success. Pryor has ZERO chance at succeeding as an NFL QB. Only way he becomes NFL viable is at WR, but he'll never be a fantasy factor at any position.

 

[GridironMenace]

Oh and to answer your question, he should be draftable in your leagues rookie draft. Otherwise as a FA if the rookie draft already happened. Just as Juice Williams has no career in the NFL neither with Pryor.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

His only hope is making it as a WR. He has speed to get deep. His hands are decent. He lined up at WR in some goalline formations and caught some TDs. Depending on where he goes, I'd be willing to drop a 3rd rounder in a rookie draft to get him. Flier with lots of upside.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

His only hope is making it as a WR. He has speed to get deep. His hands are decent. He lined up at WR in some goalline formations and caught some TDs. Depending on where he goes, I'd be willing to drop a 3rd rounder in a rookie draft to get him. Flier with lots of upside.

I wouldn't give a 3rd rounder for him. I truly believe he could be had from the waiver wire after a rookie draft for little to nothing. I'd rather have someone like Josh Johnson than Pryor. Also, he won't make it as a WR. He doesn't have nearly the skills Randal El had coming out of college and Randal El was just an average FF WR that you would never start.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

His only hope is making it as a WR. He has speed to get deep. His hands are decent. He lined up at WR in some goalline formations and caught some TDs. Depending on where he goes, I'd be willing to drop a 3rd rounder in a rookie draft to get him. Flier with lots of upside.

I wouldn't give a 3rd rounder for him. I truly believe he could be had from the waiver wire after a rookie draft for little to nothing. I'd rather have someone like Josh Johnson than Pryor. Also, he won't make it as a WR. He doesn't have nearly the skills Randal El had coming out of college and Randal El was just an average FF WR that you would never start.

Randel El was a midget. Pryor will offer a much bigger target in the red zone. Look, I'm pretty upset with Pryor for his role in all the mess but to undervalue him would be a mistake imho.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

His only hope is making it as a WR. He has speed to get deep. His hands are decent. He lined up at WR in some goalline formations and caught some TDs. Depending on where he goes, I'd be willing to drop a 3rd rounder in a rookie draft to get him. Flier with lots of upside.

I wouldn't give a 3rd rounder for him. I truly believe he could be had from the waiver wire after a rookie draft for little to nothing. I'd rather have someone like Josh Johnson than Pryor. Also, he won't make it as a WR. He doesn't have nearly the skills Randal El had coming out of college and Randal El was just an average FF WR that you would never start.

Randel El was a midget. Pryor will offer a much bigger target in the red zone. Look, I'm pretty upset with Pryor for his role in all the mess but to undervalue him would be a mistake imho.

I married into the Ohio St. Buckeye family so I've seen a lot of Pryor. A WR he is not, nor will he be one at the next level, at least not a FF startable one. I can find better FF prospects to carry at the end of my bench. Like the one I mentioned earlier, Josh Johnson, or plenty of WR or TE prospects.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Pryor should be a very late pick if any. He has no chance as a QB. Greg Cosell said on Twitter today, that he's watched tape of 2 games so far and sees no skills that translate to the NFL as a QB. Said that he would have been a late round pick.

If he has ANY success in the NFL, it will be as a WR or TE. But he'll be drafted as a project QB by someone and never really get that chance to truly convert to a WR.

IMO, he'll be out of the league in 3-4 years.

 

[rzrback77]

Pryor should be a very late pick if any. He has no chance as a QB. Greg Cosell said on Twitter today, that he's watched tape of 2 games so far and sees no skills that translate to the NFL as a QB. Said that he would have been a late round pick.If he has ANY success in the NFL, it will be as a WR or TE. But he'll be drafted as a project QB by someone and never really get that chance to truly convert to a WR. IMO, he'll be out of the league in 3-4 years.

I agree with this if he actually gets to a team, except that I think it might be one year.

 

[Phantom Knight]

How about undrafted. A QB that can't throw the ball isn't a model for success. Pryor has ZERO chance at succeeding as an NFL QB. Only way he becomes NFL viable is at WR, but he'll never be a fantasy factor at any position.

Have to agree with this and other postings along the same line. And this is talking strictly about his physical abilities. If we add in the further risk involved due to (my opinion) his (is it fair to say) arrogant attitude, he just is not worth the risk unless every player in the league gets drafted in your league. I see the odds of him being out of the NFL after 1 or 2 years as at least 50/50 against him.

 

[Not Sure]

How about undrafted. A QB that can't throw the ball isn't a model for success. Pryor has ZERO chance at succeeding as an NFL QB. Only way he becomes NFL viable is at WR, but he'll never be a fantasy factor at any position.

Have to agree with this and other postings along the same line. And this is talking strictly about his physical abilities. If we add in the further risk involved due to (my opinion) his (is it fair to say) arrogant attitude, he just is not worth the risk unless every player in the league gets drafted in your league. I see the odds of him being out of the NFL after 1 or 2 years as at least 50/50 against him.

I agree as well. Between his physical abilities and his character issues I don't think he has what it takes to make it in the NFL.

 

[yellowdog]

His only chance is as a WR, but I doubt he gets much of a chance.

 

[mcintyre1]

I guess I'm confused by some of the comments in this thread... isn't Pryor some kind of physical freak? I thought he was rumored to run in the sub 4.4 range (which we all know translates to a 4.4 at best, in most cases). Heck, I even dug up this article http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Update-Ohio-State-insists-again-on-Terrelle-Pry?urn=ncaaf-183028 claiming he ran a 4.33 electronic 40 in 2009. A guy that's 6'6 and nearly 240lbs that runs anywhere near that speed will get a shot to play in the NFL. Heck, I don't even get why Newton is considered a far better QB prospect than Pryor. Newton has a better throwing motion right now, but coaching could possibly fix that (as we all know, some guys just don't take to that type of coaching, ala Vince Young), and I honestly believe Pryor is more physically gifted than Newton with comparable arm strength (given Pryor improving his motion and footwork). Pryor is getting slammed in the media right now for character issues, but I don't see how Pryor's are any worse than Newton's. Both wanted money to play college football and got their schools in hot water because of it.

I'd consider him as a Kolin Kapernick-type prospect at QB with more work to do on his passing mechanics but greater physical tools.

 

[Fullback Fro]

See Tyrod Taylor

 

[Faust]

Terrelle Pryor 'needs a ton of work' to be ready to play QB in the NFL

Don Banks>INSIDE THE NFL

Posted: Thursday June 9, 2011 11:43AM ; Updated: Thursday June 9, 2011 2:04PM

When Terrelle Pryor in the spring of 2008 finally announced his decision to play quarterback at Ohio State, he did so to great fanfare as the nation's top-rated and most highly sought after high school football recruit.

Suffice it to say his NFL quarterbacking career, if he even has one to look forward to, won't be starting with the same level of breathless acclaim.

Though other lower-profile options like the UFL remain on the table, Pryor is thought likely to apply for consideration in the NFL's supplemental draft. If conducted amid this year's labor uncertainty, the supplemental draft would be held in July for any and all players who have developed college eligibility issues since the close of the league's regular draft in late April.

I talked with a couple of veteran NFL talent evaluators this week, and it became quickly apparent that Pryor's decision to skip his senior season at Ohio State isn't being met with a buzz of anticipation in a league featuring several teams that still seek starting quarterback options. Pryor wasn't going to be playing for the Buckeyes in their first five games of the 2011 season due to a suspension for NCAA violations. But his wait to earn a spot under center for some NFL team could be far longer.

"He needs a ton of work,'' said one long-time club personnel executive who has watched Pryor's play. "It's a long-term deal with him at quarterback. He's a great athlete, very mobile, with big size. He's just not a great passer. He totally needs to refine what he's doing. He's a project, and in the end I'm not convinced he's a quarterback in the NFL. I think he'll end up at another position.''

In most years since 1977, the NFL has held a supplemental draft to accommodate players who have had college eligibility issues arise after the regular draft concluded and before the season started. When no players apply for consideration, no supplemental draft is needed, as was the case as recently as 2008. Though nothing has been scheduled as of yet, it is expected the NFL intends to conduct a supplemental draft this summer with or without a new labor agreement in place.

The supplemental draft has not traditionally been a gold mine of quarterbacking talent, with no passer selected in it since the Giants used a first-round pick to acquire Dave Brown out of Duke in 1992, just three years after Dallas and Arizona took QBs Steve Walsh (Miami) and Timm Rosenbach (Washington State), respectively, with first-round choices. Bernie Kosar going in the first round to Cleveland in 1985 remains the only QB selection of distinction in the 30-plus-year history of the supplemental draft.

Though he went 31-4 as a starter in his three seasons at Ohio State, and has intriguing size (6-foot-6, 233 pounds) and athleticism, Pryor is not going to remind anyone of Kosar as a passer. His throwing mechanics, accuracy and decision-making all leave a lot to be desired by league talent scouts, and his experience in the Buckeyes' running-oriented offense, with its simplistic passing schemes, did not serve Pryor's NFL interests well.

"I think he'd be happy to go in the third or fourth round (of the supplemental draft), but he'll probably be disappointed in the end,'' said the club personnel executive, adding that his team would have no interest in selecting Pryor. "He is what he is. He's really a running quarterback trying to learn how to pass. You hope he goes to a team with good coaching, a team that really wants him and will be patient with him. They'll probably put him on the practice squad for a year or so.

"If you get him in the fifth or sixth round, you'd be getting a really good athlete. Hopefully in those rounds all you're looking for are qualities that may predict the guy can contribute. With his athletic ability and size, he may have a chance to play a different position. I think he's a good buy in the fifth or sixth round, but I wouldn't take him any higher than that because now you're talking about players who should contribute as rookies, and to me he's a long ways away from that point.''

Which teams might be likely to shop in Pryor's market in the supplemental draft? You can pretty much round up the usual suspects. Take all the teams that entered this year's draft needing a quarterback, but didn't get one, and put them on the list. Washington, Miami, Buffalo, Seattle and Arizona all make sense on some level, and maybe even Cleveland, which saw Pryor's work at OSU up close the past three years. And you can't rule out a club that has no immediate need at the position taking a late-round flyer on Pryor, knowing he needs time to develop his passing skills. A Philadelphia, Dallas, New Orleans, Pittsburgh or even Indianapolis come to mind. If the price tag is just a sixth or seventh-round pick in the supplemental, what's the risk of that low-level investment?

The supplemental draft is in effect a bidding war, because interested teams, after their chances are weighted according to last season's finish, bid for a player's rights. The team willing to spend a pick in the earliest round is awarded the player, and then has to forfeit its choice in the corresponding round of next year's regular league draft.

Longtime NFL Films employee Greg Cosell serves as creator and executive producer of ESPN's NFL Matchup, the show that league insiders religiously watch and respect. Cosell hastens to point out that he has thus far analyzed just two games of Pryor's junior season -- a win over Miami and a loss to Wisconsin -- but hasn't liked much of what he has seen.

"I think he has very few attributes that transition and project to the NFL, at least at this moment,'' Cosell said Wednesday from his office at NFL Films. "Mechanically he's way below the curve. He pushes the ball. He's got a very stiff delivery, and he doesn't drive the ball at all. He's got a very bad tendency to lift his back foot off the ground before he throws the ball, and that prevents him from throwing the ball with any arm strength. You can't drive the ball doing that, because you don't have a good base.

"And I don't think his accuracy in the two games I've watched was very good. I thought he was scattershot. I don't think he's a naturally accurate passer. Just watching him the little bit I have, he's just an athlete who played quarterback because he was the best guy on his team from the time he was 3 years old. But he's got a lot to learn about throwing the football.''

Pryor ran for a QB-record 2,164 yards and threw for 6,177 yards in his three seasons at Ohio State. His completion percentage was 65 percent in 2010, with 27 touchdown passes and 11 interceptions, but Cosell said he saw little sophistication in OSU's passing offense. And that speaks in part to the development of Pryor's decision-making skills at this point in his career.

"I've always been a believer in the fact that by watching a team, whether it's college or pro, it tells you a lot about what they think of the quarterback,'' Cosell said. "The pass scheme concepts of the two games I've watched were very basic, with very simple route combinations, and half-field stuff. It was a lot of one read, a lot of under center play action, which simplifies the reading process. So this isn't saying he's poor at it. But this is what they did. The nature of their pass offense simplified things for him dramatically.''

Pryor's size, speed and running talents have drawn natural comparisons to Cam Newton's skill set. But the differences between the former Ohio State quarterback and the Heisman winner from Auburn are profound, Cosell said. One possesses an NFL-ready passing arm, the other does not.

"Cam Newton throws the ball far far better than Terrelle Pryor,'' said Cosell of the NFL's first overall pick in April's regular draft. "They're not even close in that area. Cam Newton has a big-time arm and throws a very, very good ball. Terrelle Pryor does not.

"They're both big guys, with similar height and weight, and yeah, they're both runners. But that to me is irrelevant. Forty-yard dash times for a quarterback to me are totally irrelevant. I know Michael Vick has had some great runs in this league, but no one is a top quarterback because of the way they run. The job of a quarterback in the NFL is to pass the ball, and there are 20 things that go with that, but that's the job.''

There has been speculation already that Pryor's smart bet would be to sign with a team in the UFL, where he could learn the craft of playing quarterback at the professional level, perhaps under the tutelage of an ex-NFL head coach and quarterback-minded teacher like Jim Fassel or Dennis Green. But the league sources I talked to don't expect Pryor to be able to resist the lure of the NFL, after being the center of attention at Ohio State the past three years. Same goes for the CFL, where the Saskatchewan Roughriders this week acquired Pryor's negotiating rights and quickly made an offer that the former Buckeye refused.

"Maybe he goes to the UFL or CFL, but he's going to want to be paid [NFL] money,'' the club personnel executive said. "I don't see him going that route. He'll play in the NFL. I think he'll probably try to play quarterback for a year, and then he'll make the conversion [to another position] like [Jets receiver/return man and ex-collegiate quarterback] Brad Smith did. But I'd be shocked if anyone took him higher than the fifth round. You couldn't unless you're convinced he gives you something this year, either as a receiver, a Wildcat quarterback or a kick returner.''

Pryor made big news splashes when he both entered and exited Ohio State. But his story is beginning far differently this time. His quarterback skills aren't likely to be sought after in the NFL until he shows more promise and progress than he has to date.

"The kid played quarterback and he's going to want to play quarterback in the NFL,'' said Cosell, noting that some scouts see Pryor as either a receiver or tight end in the NFL. "I know there have been changes made over the years, with guys like Matt Jones, and Kordell Stewart ending up being Slash. It has happened. But if this kid wants to play quarterback, he needs reps, and he needs to be taught. And what will happen is if he comes into the NFL this year, he won't even be a No. 2 off the bat in my view. He'd be a No. 3, which means he's not going to get reps.

"If he can go work with Fassel or Green [in the UFL], or someone like that, it would help him develop. He needs reps and he needs to be taught how to play, and he needs to be taught by someone who understands that he needs to learn how to play in the pocket, not just running around. Because sooner or later, you've got to be able to throw it from the pocket. Even Michael Vick. What do we say every single year? He's got to improve throwing from the pocket. Why do you think he played better last year? Because he threw it from the pocket better. At the end of the day, that's what you've got to do in the NFL.''

 

[GroveDiesel]

More from Greg Cosell:

More Pryor: For those who equate athleticism with QB he's a draftable player. I evaluated him w/late round/free agent grade. No NFL skills.

web • 6/10/11 7:30 AM

Oof.

 

[rzrback77]

I guess I'm confused by some of the comments in this thread... isn't Pryor some kind of physical freak? I thought he was rumored to run in the sub 4.4 range (which we all know translates to a 4.4 at best, in most cases). Heck, I even dug up this article http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Update-Ohio-State-insists-again-on-Terrelle-Pry?urn=ncaaf-183028 claiming he ran a 4.33 electronic 40 in 2009. A guy that's 6'6 and nearly 240lbs that runs anywhere near that speed will get a shot to play in the NFL. Heck, I don't even get why Newton is considered a far better QB prospect than Pryor. Newton has a better throwing motion right now, but coaching could possibly fix that (as we all know, some guys just don't take to that type of coaching, ala Vince Young), and I honestly believe Pryor is more physically gifted than Newton with comparable arm strength (given Pryor improving his motion and footwork). Pryor is getting slammed in the media right now for character issues, but I don't see how Pryor's are any worse than Newton's. Both wanted money to play college football and got their schools in hot water because of it.

I'd consider him as a Kolin Kapernick-type prospect at QB with more work to do on his passing mechanics but greater physical tools.

Look at Mallett and how far he dropped, to me the character issue with Pryor is even worse and I can see how folks dismiss him, me included.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I guess I'm confused by some of the comments in this thread... isn't Pryor some kind of physical freak? I thought he was rumored to run in the sub 4.4 range (which we all know translates to a 4.4 at best, in most cases). Heck, I even dug up this article http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Update-Ohio-State-insists-again-on-Terrelle-Pry?urn=ncaaf-183028 claiming he ran a 4.33 electronic 40 in 2009. A guy that's 6'6 and nearly 240lbs that runs anywhere near that speed will get a shot to play in the NFL. Heck, I don't even get why Newton is considered a far better QB prospect than Pryor. Newton has a better throwing motion right now, but coaching could possibly fix that (as we all know, some guys just don't take to that type of coaching, ala Vince Young), and I honestly believe Pryor is more physically gifted than Newton with comparable arm strength (given Pryor improving his motion and footwork). Pryor is getting slammed in the media right now for character issues, but I don't see how Pryor's are any worse than Newton's. Both wanted money to play college football and got their schools in hot water because of it.

I'd consider him as a Kolin Kapernick-type prospect at QB with more work to do on his passing mechanics but greater physical tools.

Pryor looks like he should have a great arm, but the reality is that he doesn't really out a lot of velocity on his passes. His arm strength isn't that good at all. He can run. That's pretty much it. He can't read defenses, he's not accurate, he doesn't have elite arm strength and he has never come across as a great leader to me either.

And, IMO, he's not even THAT fast on the football field either. For all the talk about how fast he is and how "deceptive" his speed is, he never broke that many big runs. I think he has good top end straight line speed, but he has very little burst and doesn't really change direction well. That would severely limit his ability to convert to WR.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I guess I'm confused by some of the comments in this thread... isn't Pryor some kind of physical freak? I thought he was rumored to run in the sub 4.4 range (which we all know translates to a 4.4 at best, in most cases). Heck, I even dug up this article http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Update-Ohio-State-insists-again-on-Terrelle-Pry?urn=ncaaf-183028 claiming he ran a 4.33 electronic 40 in 2009. A guy that's 6'6 and nearly 240lbs that runs anywhere near that speed will get a shot to play in the NFL. Heck, I don't even get why Newton is considered a far better QB prospect than Pryor. Newton has a better throwing motion right now, but coaching could possibly fix that (as we all know, some guys just don't take to that type of coaching, ala Vince Young), and I honestly believe Pryor is more physically gifted than Newton with comparable arm strength (given Pryor improving his motion and footwork). Pryor is getting slammed in the media right now for character issues, but I don't see how Pryor's are any worse than Newton's. Both wanted money to play college football and got their schools in hot water because of it.

I'd consider him as a Kolin Kapernick-type prospect at QB with more work to do on his passing mechanics but greater physical tools.

Pryor looks like he should have a great arm, but the reality is that he doesn't really out a lot of velocity on his passes. His arm strength isn't that good at all. He can run. That's pretty much it. He can't read defenses, he's not accurate, he doesn't have elite arm strength and he has never come across as a great leader to me either.

And, IMO, he's not even THAT fast on the football field either. For all the talk about how fast he is and how "deceptive" his speed is, he never broke that many big runs. I think he has good top end straight line speed, but he has very little burst and doesn't really change direction well. That would severely limit his ability to convert to WR.

I can't believe he passed up his true calling in the CFL

 

[Tom Servo]

Any thought of him being used as a RB like SF did with Michael Robinson (from Penn State) a couple of years back?

 

[Da Guru]

If you listen to all the draft pundits Pryor will be at best a practice squad QB. Pryor has more up side at WR or TE.

Maybe groom Pryor to be a Colston type of WR? What is a concern is that Pryor does nor have the best practice and work habits. Converting to a TE/WR would take lots of practice and effort.

 

[gandalas]

Any thought of him being used as a RB like SF did with Michael Robinson (from Penn State) a couple of years back?

6'6" is a little too tall to be an effective RB. I don't know how tall Robinson was, but I doubt it was that much.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

I can't believe he passed up his true calling in the CFL

Still in the running, I'm giving him even odds in the UFL & CFL, AFL lagging well behind.

 

[Faust]

I can't believe he passed up his true calling in the CFL

Still in the running, I'm giving him even odds in the UFL & CFL, AFL lagging well behind.

The CFL is a passing league, but if he could develop his skills to a serviceable level, then he could have a decent career in this league. It is an easier level of competition for him to play against.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Decent chance Michigan WR Daryll Stonum could end up in the supplemental draft too. All signs point to him being kicked off the team after his latest trouble with the law. He was Rivals #7 WR coming out of HS (right behind Julio, Green, Floyd, Baldwin, DeAndre Brown and D. Posey) and has very good size and speed. He was held back a lot by the offense Michigan ran while he was there, but he could be a nice longshot pick for a team.

 

[gandalas]

Decent chance Michigan WR Daryll Stonum could end up in the supplemental draft too. All signs point to him being kicked off the team after his latest trouble with the law. He was Rivals #7 WR coming out of HS (right behind Julio, Green, Floyd, Baldwin, DeAndre Brown and D. Posey) and has very good size and speed. He was held back a lot by the offense Michigan ran while he was there, but he could be a nice longshot pick for a team.

I would not be surprised if the remainder of the "Tattoo-5" from OSU signed up as well, which would land another one off that list you mentioned, Devier Posey, in there as well.Honestly, I see Pryor as the 4th of the 5 to be drafted in the supplemental draft if all 5 DO apply. I see it as:Mike Adams - 1st or 2nd round pick. He was listed in the 2012 mock drafts as a 1st rounder earlier this off-season.Dan Herron - likely 3rd rounder? I have heard that many teams are interested.DeVier Posey - 3rd to 5th rounder, I think.Pryor will be lucky to be in the 5th round.

 

[Tom Servo]

Any thought of him being used as a RB like SF did with Michael Robinson (from Penn State) a couple of years back?

6'6" is a little too tall to be an effective RB. I don't know how tall Robinson was, but I doubt it was that much.

Thanks. Did not realize he was that tall.

 

[Faust]

I guess I'm confused by some of the comments in this thread... isn't Pryor some kind of physical freak? I thought he was rumored to run in the sub 4.4 range (which we all know translates to a 4.4 at best, in most cases). Heck, I even dug up this article http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Update-Ohio-State-insists-again-on-Terrelle-Pry?urn=ncaaf-183028 claiming he ran a 4.33 electronic 40 in 2009. A guy that's 6'6 and nearly 240lbs that runs anywhere near that speed will get a shot to play in the NFL. Heck, I don't even get why Newton is considered a far better QB prospect than Pryor. Newton has a better throwing motion right now, but coaching could possibly fix that (as we all know, some guys just don't take to that type of coaching, ala Vince Young), and I honestly believe Pryor is more physically gifted than Newton with comparable arm strength (given Pryor improving his motion and footwork). Pryor is getting slammed in the media right now for character issues, but I don't see how Pryor's are any worse than Newton's. Both wanted money to play college football and got their schools in hot water because of it.

I'd consider him as a Kolin Kapernick-type prospect at QB with more work to do on his passing mechanics but greater physical tools.

Pryor looks like he should have a great arm, but the reality is that he doesn't really out a lot of velocity on his passes. His arm strength isn't that good at all. He can run. That's pretty much it. He can't read defenses, he's not accurate, he doesn't have elite arm strength and he has never come across as a great leader to me either.

And, IMO, he's not even THAT fast on the football field either. For all the talk about how fast he is and how "deceptive" his speed is, he never broke that many big runs. I think he has good top end straight line speed, but he has very little burst and doesn't really change direction well. That would severely limit his ability to convert to WR.

I can't believe he passed up his true calling in the CFL

He would have had to report to the Roughriders and find a place to live in Regina for the duration of the season. I could see him saying "Sask-a-where?" and for how much money? Yeah, right!Pryor says no to CFL's Roughriders

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Terrelle Pryor isn't interested in playing in the Canadian Football League. He's also not interested in speaking to the NCAA.

The former Ohio State quarterback announced Tuesday he would not return to Ohio State for his senior season in the wake of an NCAA suspension and ongoing investigation. The Saskatchewan Roughriders own the CFL negotiating rights to Pryor and had extended him a tentative offer.

"They sent the package last night, I forwarded it to Terrelle and Terrelle said that he wasn't interested today," Pryor's attorney, Larry James, said Thursday.

James also said that Pryor will no longer cooperate with NCAA investigators looking into Ohio State's football program, ex-players and current players.

"He doesn't need a reason (to talk to them). He's no longer a student-athlete," said James, who added that Pryor doesn't feel he owes the NCAA any answers. "They're not going to give him or any other student-athlete any due process rights to speak of, so he's moved on."

Asked if Pryor gave him a reason for his lack of interest in the Roughriders, James said, "He did not go into discussion. He just said he's not interested in the Canadian Football League. Obviously the offer was not sufficient to whet his taste buds."

Roughriders general manager Brendan Taman was watching his team practice and did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment.

Pryor has several options besides jumping immediately to the CFL.

He could still apply to enter a special NFL supplemental draft later this summer, he could play in a minor league such as the United Football League, or he could work out and take several months to prepare for next spring's full NFL draft.

James said the 6-foot-6, 233-pounder's first choice is to go in a supplemental draft.

"He's definitely looking at the supplemental draft," James said, adding that Pryor is in the process of hiring a trainer and an agent.

Pryor was one of five Ohio State players suspended last December for the first five games of the 2011 season for accepting improper benefits from a Columbus tattoo-parlor owner.

Ohio State coach Jim Tressel was forced to resign last week for knowing about his players' involvement in trading signed equipment, championship rings and other memorabilia to the tattoo-parlor owner for cash and discounted tattoos.

Ohio State's career rushing leader among quarterbacks with 2,164 yards, Pryor ranks fifth in the school's record book for passing yards with 6,177. His 57 touchdown passes matches the Ohio State mark also held by Bobby Hoying.

The NCAA is investigating the entire Ohio State program, in particular allegations revolving around cash and other improper benefits and sweetheart deals on cars. Pryor has been a lightning rod during the investigation, admitting he had dealings with the tattoo-parlor owner.

The NCAA is also looking into the cars he has owned and been loaned while at Ohio State.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

He would have had to report to the Roughriders and find a place to live in Regina for the duration of the season. I could see him saying "Sask-a-where?" and for how much money? Yeah, right!

It beats saying, "would you like fries with that?"

 

[Faust]

He would have had to report to the Roughriders and find a place to live in Regina for the duration of the season. I could see him saying "Sask-a-where?" and for how much money? Yeah, right!

It beats saying, "would you like fries with that?"

Agreed, but Pryor still thinks he has a bright NFL future and the CFL is beneath him.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

He would have had to report to the Roughriders and find a place to live in Regina for the duration of the season. I could see him saying "Sask-a-where?" and for how much money? Yeah, right!

It beats saying, "would you like fries with that?"

Agreed, but Pryor still thinks he has a bright NFL future and the CFL is beneath him.

Man, he's in for a rude awakening.

 

[BigTex]

Pryor=Young

 

[Cripster]

As a pro football fan living in the deep south, the college ball I watch is SEC or BCS Bowls. I have seen him a little. Only chance at a career is to become a Brad Smith Swiss Army knife. Could be an emergency QB, # 4 WR and kick returner. Not sure he is as fast as Smith.

 

[eakfootball]

Last round pick as a WR.

 

[DesmondBishop]

Decent chance Michigan WR Daryll Stonum could end up in the supplemental draft too. All signs point to him being kicked off the team after his latest trouble with the law. He was Rivals #7 WR coming out of HS (right behind Julio, Green, Floyd, Baldwin, DeAndre Brown and D. Posey) and has very good size and speed. He was held back a lot by the offense Michigan ran while he was there, but he could be a nice longshot pick for a team.

Speaking of Floyd, I haven't read or heard an update on his situation, but if he is permanently kicked of ND for being a drunk, wouldn't he also possibly be in the supplemental draft? That could turn out very interesting.

 

[gandalas]

Pryor=Young

You seem to forget that if Young's head was screwed on straight, then he would still be the starting QB of the Titans. Say what you want, but you cannot say he was not successful as far as winning percentage went.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

What is a concern is that Pryor does nor have the best practice and work habits.

Pryor deserves 99% of the criticism that he gets but this is something that I haven't heard. Any links?

 

[Hoosier16]

There sure is a lot of anti-Pryor sentiment in here.

Character - What has he done that has been so horrible? He sold his memorabilia to get some tattoos. Are tattoos really that horrible? So far, he doesn't appear to have a drinking or drug problem. He drives a nice car that he says his mother bought for him. So far, the investigation hasn't proved otherwise. He hasn't commited any crimes. Was Reggie Bush a bad character guy? He took a few hundred thousand but I can't remember anyone questioning his character.

Work ethic - Someone is going to have to provide a link to his questionable work ethic. I've not been aware of anything at all. In fact, he put up with 3 years of Tressel play calling without saying a word. I don't see how anyone can really judge his ability when everyone on the other team, in the stadium, and watching TV knows the plays before they're called.

While I don't think he'll make it as a QB (most college players don't), to say a 6' 6", 240 lb player with 4.4 speed can't make it in some capacity in the NFL is just a bit premature. How many guys like that don't get a chance?

 

[MTskibum]

I guess I'm confused by some of the comments in this thread... isn't Pryor some kind of physical freak? I thought he was rumored to run in the sub 4.4 range (which we all know translates to a 4.4 at best, in most cases). Heck, I even dug up this article http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Update-Ohio-State-insists-again-on-Terrelle-Pry?urn=ncaaf-183028 claiming he ran a 4.33 electronic 40 in 2009. A guy that's 6'6 and nearly 240lbs that runs anywhere near that speed will get a shot to play in the NFL. Heck, I don't even get why Newton is considered a far better QB prospect than Pryor. Newton has a better throwing motion right now, but coaching could possibly fix that (as we all know, some guys just don't take to that type of coaching, ala Vince Young), and I honestly believe Pryor is more physically gifted than Newton with comparable arm strength (given Pryor improving his motion and footwork). Pryor is getting slammed in the media right now for character issues, but I don't see how Pryor's are any worse than Newton's. Both wanted money to play college football and got their schools in hot water because of it.

I'd consider him as a Kolin Kapernick-type prospect at QB with more work to do on his passing mechanics but greater physical tools.

Pryor looks like he should have a great arm, but the reality is that he doesn't really out a lot of velocity on his passes. His arm strength isn't that good at all. He can run. That's pretty much it. He can't read defenses, he's not accurate, he doesn't have elite arm strength and he has never come across as a great leader to me either.

And, IMO, he's not even THAT fast on the football field either. For all the talk about how fast he is and how "deceptive" his speed is, he never broke that many big runs. I think he has good top end straight line speed, but he has very little burst and doesn't really change direction well. That would severely limit his ability to convert to WR.

I have heard a couple people say that he is not accurate. I never watched him play once at ohio state, but his stats look pretty good.http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/379070/terrelle-pryor

65% completion percentage his senior season with a 8.6 yards per attempt, Blaine gabbert's strength was supposedly his accuracy, yet Terrel Pryor had a higher completion percentage and a much higher yards per attempt.

He also had a higher completion percentage than Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, and collin kaepernick.

Anyone know why all the pundits are saying that Pryor is not accurate. Like I said I have never watched him play, just basing my analysis off of the stats.

As far as his off the field issues, they are no worse than Reggie Bush or Cam Newton. There are probably many players that do the same thing that pryor did and simply do not get caught.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Pryor=Young

This is a horrible comparison. Pryor isn't NFL material. Vince gets a great deal od hate on this board, but the fact of the matter is that he was rookie of the year and took his team to the playoffs. He also has a substantial winning record. If Pryor does any of those things I will eat my crow.

 

[Kleck]

I most likely wouldn't draft Pryor in any round. He may be a value at some point in the draft, but I just can't see using a valuable roster spot on the guy to keep him.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

There sure is a lot of anti-Pryor sentiment in here.Character - What has he done that has been so horrible? He sold his memorabilia to get some tattoos. Are tattoos really that horrible?

Other than it's a violation of NCAA rules for a player? He was also was paid for autographs (another violation) and played several rounds of golf w/ a memorabilia dealer (which is another violation). Lastly, the stank around his numerous cars while he was at OSU is not good either.

 

[mcintyre1]

There sure is a lot of anti-Pryor sentiment in here.Character - What has he done that has been so horrible? He sold his memorabilia to get some tattoos. Are tattoos really that horrible?

Other than it's a violation of NCAA rules for a player? He was also was paid for autographs (another violation) and played several rounds of golf w/ a memorabilia dealer (which is another violation). Lastly, the stank around his numerous cars while he was at OSU is not good either.

Right, but I think his point is that he's not running afoul of laws so much as he's not following the NCAA's rules. While that's obviously a concern, there doesn't seem to be a lot of historic correlation between NCAA violations and "character issues" in the NFL (see Kenny Britt etc).

 

[notdarkyet]

Not only does his throwing motion suck, but the dude is dumber than a stack of hammers. Not a chance in hell he succeeds in the NFL, and doubly so as a QB.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

There sure is a lot of anti-Pryor sentiment in here.Character - What has he done that has been so horrible? He sold his memorabilia to get some tattoos. Are tattoos really that horrible?

Other than it's a violation of NCAA rules for a player? He was also was paid for autographs (another violation) and played several rounds of golf w/ a memorabilia dealer (which is another violation). Lastly, the stank around his numerous cars while he was at OSU is not good either.

Right, but I think his point is that he's not running afoul of laws so much as he's not following the NCAA's rules. While that's obviously a concern, there doesn't seem to be a lot of historic correlation between NCAA violations and "character issues" in the NFL (see Kenny Britt etc).

His character issues are already out there though, right?. Consistently making very poor, self-centered decisions have brought nothing but trouble on him and OSU. Like behavior-based interviews, your previous decisions are a good indicator of future ones.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I guess I'm confused by some of the comments in this thread... isn't Pryor some kind of physical freak? I thought he was rumored to run in the sub 4.4 range (which we all know translates to a 4.4 at best, in most cases). Heck, I even dug up this article http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Update-Ohio-State-insists-again-on-Terrelle-Pry?urn=ncaaf-183028 claiming he ran a 4.33 electronic 40 in 2009. A guy that's 6'6 and nearly 240lbs that runs anywhere near that speed will get a shot to play in the NFL. Heck, I don't even get why Newton is considered a far better QB prospect than Pryor. Newton has a better throwing motion right now, but coaching could possibly fix that (as we all know, some guys just don't take to that type of coaching, ala Vince Young), and I honestly believe Pryor is more physically gifted than Newton with comparable arm strength (given Pryor improving his motion and footwork). Pryor is getting slammed in the media right now for character issues, but I don't see how Pryor's are any worse than Newton's. Both wanted money to play college football and got their schools in hot water because of it.

I'd consider him as a Kolin Kapernick-type prospect at QB with more work to do on his passing mechanics but greater physical tools.

Pryor looks like he should have a great arm, but the reality is that he doesn't really out a lot of velocity on his passes. His arm strength isn't that good at all. He can run. That's pretty much it. He can't read defenses, he's not accurate, he doesn't have elite arm strength and he has never come across as a great leader to me either.

And, IMO, he's not even THAT fast on the football field either. For all the talk about how fast he is and how "deceptive" his speed is, he never broke that many big runs. I think he has good top end straight line speed, but he has very little burst and doesn't really change direction well. That would severely limit his ability to convert to WR.

I have heard a couple people say that he is not accurate. I never watched him play once at ohio state, but his stats look pretty good.http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/379070/terrelle-pryor

65% completion percentage his senior season with a 8.6 yards per attempt, Blaine gabbert's strength was supposedly his accuracy, yet Terrel Pryor had a higher completion percentage and a much higher yards per attempt.

He also had a higher completion percentage than Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, and collin kaepernick.

Anyone know why all the pundits are saying that Pryor is not accurate. Like I said I have never watched him play, just basing my analysis off of the stats

As far as his off the field issues, they are no worse than Reggie Bush or Cam Newton. There are probably many players that do the same thing that pryor did and simply do not get caught.

I know his stats look good, but I've watched a lot of his games. I'm an OSU fan and confirmed Pryor hater long before this stuff all happened. A lot of his throws were in the vicinity of the receivers enough that they could make the adjustment and pull the ball in. But the OSU receivers made a LOT of great catches for him. That won't happen in the NFL as defensive backs are just too good for that. He also doesn't have the arm strength to make tough accurate throws. He just lofts the ball and allowed his WRs to make the adjustments to the ball. Again, that won't happen in the NFL.

If you look at his numbers against the better pass defenses he faced, they're not good at all.

 

[mcintyre1]

can anyone confirm that this is Pryor standing next to Ocho? If so, I don't see how Pryor is anywhere close to his listed 6'6"

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/5biqt6-e1308081723551.jpg?w=250

 

[Hoosier16]

There sure is a lot of anti-Pryor sentiment in here.Character - What has he done that has been so horrible? He sold his memorabilia to get some tattoos. Are tattoos really that horrible?

Other than it's a violation of NCAA rules for a player? He was also was paid for autographs (another violation) and played several rounds of golf w/ a memorabilia dealer (which is another violation). Lastly, the stank around his numerous cars while he was at OSU is not good either.

Right, but I think his point is that he's not running afoul of laws so much as he's not following the NCAA's rules. While that's obviously a concern, there doesn't seem to be a lot of historic correlation between NCAA violations and "character issues" in the NFL (see Kenny Britt etc).

His character issues are already out there though, right?. Consistently making very poor, self-centered decisions have brought nothing but trouble on him and OSU. Like behavior-based interviews, your previous decisions are a good indicator of future ones.

What poor decisions has he made so far (the ones you know to be facts)? He sold memorabilia to raise cash for tattoos. Can you really stretch that to say it will lead to some kind of significant character problems in the future? What trouble has he brought upon OSU? There was no penalty issued to the school for what he did, only to himself. Tressel has brought more trouble to the school than Pryor. Even if the other allegations turn out to be true, are they really things that will cause problems in the future? If it turns out he took a car, is that a significant flaw in character? If he played 2 rounds of golf for free, is that really that terrible? Has Bush turned out to be a character problem for accepting over a hundred thousand?