Where would you feel comfortable drafting Clinton Portis? (1 Viewer)

[Franknbeans]

 

[Shermanator]

Took him last night at the turn #13 overall. Wasnt too comfortable, but I was liking his upside/value at that point.

 

[Todem]

1.5 and I would not blink.

 

[B Maverick]

1.5 and I would not blink.

 

[rolliehouliranson]

I've got him at 1.5 also. Whether I have the balls to do it or not, we'll see Saturday.

 

[my man otis]

Got him at 1.11 in one draft and was very happy about it.

Actually passed on him for Jordan in another at 1.10 but it was before Gibbs came out and said he expected him to be ready for the opener. Plus I didn't want to have him in more than 1 league.

If he falls to the late 1st round I think you have an absolute obligation to take him.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Took him last night at 2.04 in a 10 team draft. At that draft position, I think that even if he produces at around his floor, that's still fair value.

 

[mbuehner]

Where would you feel comfortable drafting Clinton Portis?

My bedroom. Where my binky is.

 

[shamrock84]

Got him at 1.08 in my dynasty. Bunch of idiots in my league scared of a minor injury.

 

[Wheezer34]

Got him last night at 2.06 in a 12 team redraft PPR league.

Everyone was running scared!

 

[ratdog]

Just got him with the 16th overall pick

2nd round 4th pick

I love it

picked up RUBEN IN THE 4TH. and feel I have a great team for a run

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Got him at 1.08 in my dynasty. Bunch of idiots in my league scared of a minor injury.

Patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation are much more likely to have another shoulder dislocation. The reason is that when a shoulder dislocation occurs, ligaments within the shoulder are torn, and the shoulder joint becomes less stable.Most shoulder dislocations are anterior shoulder dislocations, meaning the ball is pushed out it front of the socket. About 95% of shoulder dislocations are anterior. In patients who sustain this type of shoulder dislocation, the most common injury in the shoulder is called a Bankart lesion. The "Bankart lesion" means that ligaments that help to hold the shoulder in proper position have been damaged. Can the Bankart lesion heal without surgery?Yes. In fact, it will always heal. The problem is, that it does not heal in the right position. The ligament tends to heal in a position that does not help to hold the shoulder in the proper positionDoes a brace help to prevent shoulder dislocation?Bracing is sometimes considered for patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation. A brace is most commonly used for an in-season athlete who sustains a shoulder dislocation. In this scenario, surgery for treatment of the shoulder dislocation would be season-ending. Therefore, a brace may be used to help prevent a shoulder dislocation. Are braces effective at preventing shoulder dislocationsThe braces can help to prevent the shoulder from being placed into a position in which a dislocation is possible. While they cannot prevent all shoulder dislocations, these braces can reduce the overall incidence of shoulder dislocations in athletes. Can the braces be worn during competition?This is the real problem, and why bracing plays a very small role in the treatment and prevention of shoulder dislocations. Athletes who participate in sports often have difficulty wearing the brace and competing effectively. Braces are especially cumbersome in athletes who overhead function (such as throwing) is critical for their effectiveness. Therefore, most athletes are unable to return to their sport while wearing a shoulder dislocation brace. Does`nt sound like a minor ijury to me.

 

[mbuehner]

I popped my shoulder making a tackle in highschool. Hurt like hell but was able to practice within a week, but the shoulder went right back in so it never needed to be set. Even so, a teammate dislocated his shoulder 3 consequtive weeks running and had to be carted off to the hospital to get it reset each time. But was always able to play by the next week. Im hardly an expert of course, but from what ive seen with shoulders is just like Knuckles said- you can usually tough it out if its not completely dislocated, and even so it can be reset and you can be back very quickly. BUT, you are very likely to repeat the experience if the ligaments arent able to heal. As often as RBs have to take people on with their shoulders, its not a good thing for Portis. On the other hand his initial injury didnt look too severe, so with the rest he has had and the precautions he will take (he doesnt need to swing his arm) he could easily never be bothered by it again. Tough to say. If he goes down again i would get _very_ worried, even if he seems to recover quickly.

 

[Bonfire]

a lot seem to think 1.5. who is the consensus #4 as of late?

tiki?

sjax?

rudi?

manning?

 

[cstu]

Got him at 1.08 in my dynasty. Bunch of idiots in my league scared of a minor injury.

Patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation are much more likely to have another shoulder dislocation. The reason is that when a shoulder dislocation occurs, ligaments within the shoulder are torn, and the shoulder joint becomes less stable.Most shoulder dislocations are anterior shoulder dislocations, meaning the ball is pushed out it front of the socket. About 95% of shoulder dislocations are anterior. In patients who sustain this type of shoulder dislocation, the most common injury in the shoulder is called a Bankart lesion. The "Bankart lesion" means that ligaments that help to hold the shoulder in proper position have been damaged. Can the Bankart lesion heal without surgery?Yes. In fact, it will always heal. The problem is, that it does not heal in the right position. The ligament tends to heal in a position that does not help to hold the shoulder in the proper positionDoes a brace help to prevent shoulder dislocation?Bracing is sometimes considered for patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation. A brace is most commonly used for an in-season athlete who sustains a shoulder dislocation. In this scenario, surgery for treatment of the shoulder dislocation would be season-ending. Therefore, a brace may be used to help prevent a shoulder dislocation. Are braces effective at preventing shoulder dislocationsThe braces can help to prevent the shoulder from being placed into a position in which a dislocation is possible. While they cannot prevent all shoulder dislocations, these braces can reduce the overall incidence of shoulder dislocations in athletes. Can the braces be worn during competition?This is the real problem, and why bracing plays a very small role in the treatment and prevention of shoulder dislocations. Athletes who participate in sports often have difficulty wearing the brace and competing effectively. Braces are especially cumbersome in athletes who overhead function (such as throwing) is critical for their effectiveness. Therefore, most athletes are unable to return to their sport while wearing a shoulder dislocation brace. Does`nt sound like a minor ijury to me.

In 1993, Emmitt Smith separated his shoulder the last game of the season in the 2nd quarter and came back in to help win the game. He also played in the team's two playoff games before getting surgery in the offseason.However, if you want to listen to that moron Skip Bayless then separated shoulder isn't a big deal:

"Emmitt once got mad and refused to talk to me for a season after I said on ESPN that he wasn't overly dedicated to offseason workouts. But I was merely repeating what several frustrated coaches and amazed teammates told me"."Most amazing of all about little Emmitt was what a big baby he could be. Here was the ultimate NFL oxymoron: A rushing champion with a low pain threshold"."Which brings us to what is remembered as Emmitt's greatest game, the final game of the 1993 season against the Giants at the Meadowlands. At stake: The NFC East title and home field throughout the playoffs. Emmitt hurt his shoulder late in the second quarter. Emmitt continued to drag his apparently broken wing back to the huddle, then punish the Giants through the second half and overtime. Emmitt gained 78 yards on 17 runs/catches after the injury. The Cowboys won 16-13. John Madden called it "the most courageous performance I've ever seen." Yet in the postgame locker room, several players and assistants rolled their eyes and told me lots of players play with first-degree separations. They said the team doctor offered to inject the shoulder with painkiller at halftime, but that Emmitt hated shots and started crying at the sight of the needle.""Emmy Smith, I nicknamed him. What an actor. In this way, he remained childlike, craving the riveted attention of an entire stadium and franchise. How he delighted in melodramatically reminding the Cowboy universe of just how essential he was"."But after Emmitt's Cowboys won their third Super Bowl, it was as if he semi-retired. Carrying his team to victory was no longer as important as avoiding injury. Too often, he went down or ran out of bounds just short of the first-down marker. In his final six or seven Cowboys seasons, he took only what the defense gave him."

 

[curta269]

If I pick at 1.8 or later, and Portis is available, I'm taking him. Hopefully, I will have a top-3 pick and not have to worry about it.

 

[shamrock84]

Got him at 1.08 in my dynasty. Bunch of idiots in my league scared of a minor injury.

Patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation are much more likely to have another shoulder dislocation. The reason is that when a shoulder dislocation occurs, ligaments within the shoulder are torn, and the shoulder joint becomes less stable.Most shoulder dislocations are anterior shoulder dislocations, meaning the ball is pushed out it front of the socket. About 95% of shoulder dislocations are anterior. In patients who sustain this type of shoulder dislocation, the most common injury in the shoulder is called a Bankart lesion. The "Bankart lesion" means that ligaments that help to hold the shoulder in proper position have been damaged. Can the Bankart lesion heal without surgery?Yes. In fact, it will always heal. The problem is, that it does not heal in the right position. The ligament tends to heal in a position that does not help to hold the shoulder in the proper positionDoes a brace help to prevent shoulder dislocation?Bracing is sometimes considered for patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation. A brace is most commonly used for an in-season athlete who sustains a shoulder dislocation. In this scenario, surgery for treatment of the shoulder dislocation would be season-ending. Therefore, a brace may be used to help prevent a shoulder dislocation. Are braces effective at preventing shoulder dislocationsThe braces can help to prevent the shoulder from being placed into a position in which a dislocation is possible. While they cannot prevent all shoulder dislocations, these braces can reduce the overall incidence of shoulder dislocations in athletes. Can the braces be worn during competition?This is the real problem, and why bracing plays a very small role in the treatment and prevention of shoulder dislocations. Athletes who participate in sports often have difficulty wearing the brace and competing effectively. Braces are especially cumbersome in athletes who overhead function (such as throwing) is critical for their effectiveness. Therefore, most athletes are unable to return to their sport while wearing a shoulder dislocation brace. Does`nt sound like a minor ijury to me.

I still like my pick

 

[redman]

Got him at 1.08 in my dynasty. Bunch of idiots in my league scared of a minor injury.

Patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation are much more likely to have another shoulder dislocation. The reason is that when a shoulder dislocation occurs, ligaments within the shoulder are torn, and the shoulder joint becomes less stable.Most shoulder dislocations are anterior shoulder dislocations, meaning the ball is pushed out it front of the socket. About 95% of shoulder dislocations are anterior. In patients who sustain this type of shoulder dislocation, the most common injury in the shoulder is called a Bankart lesion. The "Bankart lesion" means that ligaments that help to hold the shoulder in proper position have been damaged. Can the Bankart lesion heal without surgery?Yes. In fact, it will always heal. The problem is, that it does not heal in the right position. The ligament tends to heal in a position that does not help to hold the shoulder in the proper positionDoes a brace help to prevent shoulder dislocation?Bracing is sometimes considered for patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation. A brace is most commonly used for an in-season athlete who sustains a shoulder dislocation. In this scenario, surgery for treatment of the shoulder dislocation would be season-ending. Therefore, a brace may be used to help prevent a shoulder dislocation. Are braces effective at preventing shoulder dislocationsThe braces can help to prevent the shoulder from being placed into a position in which a dislocation is possible. While they cannot prevent all shoulder dislocations, these braces can reduce the overall incidence of shoulder dislocations in athletes. Can the braces be worn during competition?This is the real problem, and why bracing plays a very small role in the treatment and prevention of shoulder dislocations. Athletes who participate in sports often have difficulty wearing the brace and competing effectively. Braces are especially cumbersome in athletes who overhead function (such as throwing) is critical for their effectiveness. Therefore, most athletes are unable to return to their sport while wearing a shoulder dislocation brace. Does`nt sound like a minor ijury to me.

Interesting that your post doesn't even mention subluxation, which is a merely partial dislocation and what Portis actually sustained. You've given the worst case scenario when that isn't what happened. cstu- a shoulder separation is also a different injury. As for the original question, I'd feel comfortable drafting him around 1.08-1.10; the addition to Duckett as much as the shoulder injury would have me a bit nervous drafting him at 1.04 or higher, which is where I had him pre-injury.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Got him at 1.08 in my dynasty. Bunch of idiots in my league scared of a minor injury.

Patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation are much more likely to have another shoulder dislocation. The reason is that when a shoulder dislocation occurs, ligaments within the shoulder are torn, and the shoulder joint becomes less stable.Most shoulder dislocations are anterior shoulder dislocations, meaning the ball is pushed out it front of the socket. About 95% of shoulder dislocations are anterior. In patients who sustain this type of shoulder dislocation, the most common injury in the shoulder is called a Bankart lesion. The "Bankart lesion" means that ligaments that help to hold the shoulder in proper position have been damaged. Can the Bankart lesion heal without surgery?Yes. In fact, it will always heal. The problem is, that it does not heal in the right position. The ligament tends to heal in a position that does not help to hold the shoulder in the proper positionDoes a brace help to prevent shoulder dislocation?Bracing is sometimes considered for patients who sustain a shoulder dislocation. A brace is most commonly used for an in-season athlete who sustains a shoulder dislocation. In this scenario, surgery for treatment of the shoulder dislocation would be season-ending. Therefore, a brace may be used to help prevent a shoulder dislocation. Are braces effective at preventing shoulder dislocationsThe braces can help to prevent the shoulder from being placed into a position in which a dislocation is possible. While they cannot prevent all shoulder dislocations, these braces can reduce the overall incidence of shoulder dislocations in athletes. Can the braces be worn during competition?This is the real problem, and why bracing plays a very small role in the treatment and prevention of shoulder dislocations. Athletes who participate in sports often have difficulty wearing the brace and competing effectively. Braces are especially cumbersome in athletes who overhead function (such as throwing) is critical for their effectiveness. Therefore, most athletes are unable to return to their sport while wearing a shoulder dislocation brace. Does`nt sound like a minor ijury to me.

Interesting that your post doesn't even mention subluxation, which is a merely partial dislocation and what Portis actually sustained. You've given the worst case scenario when that isn't what happened. cstu- a shoulder separation is also a different injury. As for the original question, I'd feel comfortable drafting him around 1.08-1.10; the addition to Duckett as much as the shoulder injury would have me a bit nervous drafting him at 1.04 or higher, which is where I had him pre-injury.

Shoulder subluxation is often a recurrent problem caused by weakness in the rotator cuff or laxity in the tendons that stabilize the shoulder. Therefore, people with previous shoulder dislocation or subluxation stand at the highest risk for future subluxation. Wrestlers, basketball players and football players compose the biggest risk group. Twisting, lifting and hitting, as well as throwing sports, also pose a higher risk of injury of this type. Those with arthritis, degeneration of the rotator cuff, or poor muscle tone are also at great risk. .............take care

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

I picked him at 1.04 in one league the day before he injured the shoulder. Thought I was o.k. getting Betts later in that draft (slow draft) but that is probably a dead roster spot at this moment and the Dunn owner probably has Duckett.

 

[icehouse]

Some dude in another Portis thread (how many do we have, lol) got him in the 5th round. He must be playing in a league full of women.

 

[BoulderBob]

2nd round, they went out and got Duckett for a reason. If Portis finishes in the top ten(RB) this season, I'll eat my computer.

 

[redman]

Some dude in another Portis thread (how many do we have, lol) got him in the 5th round. He must be playing in a league knitting circle full of women.

No need to make worlds collide, friend.

 

[Longshot88]

Funny not one mention Of Ducket in this post.....Why would he not get the goalline carries???He has to be at least 30lbs heavier....

 

[Romulan]

1.5 is where I got him, and happy I did since its a keeper league.

 

[mcjc4]

auction draft $100.00 cap. i got him for $21.00 last night after LJ went for $47.00, LT $45.00 and SA $42.00. Left enough room to add Droughns for $11.00 and Cedric Benson for $5.00 at the end and Morecey for $1.00.

Granted I did not get one of the top 3, I think this injury really had his value drop by 25-30% in auctions. Edge went for over $30.00 and Tiki went for $27.00

Never was a big spender on QB's, but getting Portis for that price left me open to adding P. Manning and R Moss and Gonzo. Pretty happy about his drop in value for a 12 team league.

(Talk about Portis, don't really care what you think about my team, your not in my league)

 

[cstu]

cstu- a shoulder separation is also a different injury.

My point was to show that even with a more serious shoulder injury that he could still play. I still have him ranked as the #4 RB since he'll be fine when it really matters.

 

[cstruk]

He went at 3.01 in my 12 team ppr league today (not to me). 11 rb's, 12 wr's and Peyton went before him.

 

[Pole Cat]

I grabbed him at 1.8 last night and feel fine about it. Tiki, SJax, Rudi, R. Brown were all gone, and I prefer him to Edge, Parker, Westbrook, etc.

 

[bob_probert_2000]

I'd feel confortable draftiing him in the straightaways, that'd give me the best chance of slingshotting past him to catch the checkered flag.

 

[Brett Weer]

Got him at 2.10 last night, teaming him up with LJ who I took at 1.1, 10-team leauge.

 

[facook]

Just took Portis at 2.3 (in a 12 team draft). Teamed him up with Ronnie Brown at 1.10 to form what I consider a very strong combo.

 

[cosjobs]

Even if he returns at full speed, you have a couple of other considerations:

Most big time rbs get a significant chunk of their yardage and scores in garbage time, when the other team is already beaten. If Washingotn get to those situations, do you really think they will be leaving CP in the game? Not this year, as they will want to save him for more inmportant situations. If he re-injured his shoulder in the fourth quarter of a 28-3 game, what kind of grief would the Was staff get?

How long can Brunell keep defenses from loading up against the run? At his age nad physical condition, you have to acknowledge the distinct possibility of that happening.

So consider the two above arguements, with the additional carries for Duckett and Betts and the fact that its a recent injury thaqt just caused him to miss 3 weeks of action. I think an honest forecast would be 1000/6 or so. Not horrible, but not in the first two rounds for me.