Where Would You Rank Christian McCaffrey Today? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Where would you rank Christian McCaffrey overall today in a PPR redraft league?

Throw out week one, season starts in week 2 and ends in week 17.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Based on the information that we have “today”—I knocked him down 1 round. He had very high usage last season, has repeatedly dealt with this calf injury, and the Achilles thing is concerning. Even with all of that—The 49ers are not playing this season for our fantasy teams—they are a team with playoff and Super Bowl intentions—and I don’t think they will “over use” C-Mac early/midway in the season when they have a back that just showed what he’s capable of (against a great defense). Even if McCaffrey comes back in a week or two—I think Jordan Mason is lined up for an amount of carries that guys like Saquon/Bjan probably don’t have to deal with.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I voted 13-24. Not off to a good start, and I fear re-aggrivation. I am in a league where you can force trade if you win and I had to choose between CMC and Kupp. Before this week it would have been CMC, no brainer. I ended up choosing Kupp, as he is healthy and has a clear path to points. I would hate to trade for CMC, have him not play this week, I lose and he gets taken from me. Let CMC be someone else's headache.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I have moved CMC down a lot since the news broke last night
It feels like the Niners were hiding this injury for some reason

Facts: CMC is NOT on Injured Reserve so the Niners must feel like he is close to a GO!
Maybe they knew they could pummel the Jets at home and didn't need CMC to win on MNF

I want to believe that's true but I also feel like this calf issue has been going on for some time and it doesn't seem to be getting better and it doesn't seem to have a diagnosis or time frame when CMC would feel % or at least at a level the Niners are comfortable with

If we were picking this week in Redraft, I could see CMC being moved down from 1.01 to something more like Mid-End of the 1st round just because of the uncertainty
Would you take Breece Hall over CMC? That was the ADP-2 at RB, Bijan would be 3rd after that.

I can tell you this, most folks would have passed on CMC at No 1 overall if they knew what was going to unfold right before MNF

-And once again JB, right on the pulse of what folks are thinking today. It would be excellent to see the Shark Pool do a redraft this week after Week 1 knowledge

 

[Pietaster2]

But what if he comes back in week 2 or 3 healed and is CMC 2023. Is the shark move to trade FOR CMC?

What if Mason returns to nothing more than a premium handcuff role?

Is this the time to take advantage of FUD to trade a round two player for the 1.1 overall?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You have to run back and forth between the Mason and CMC thread, this is a good spot to ask the Shark Pool...

When CMC is healthy enough to at least be "Probable" on the injury report, what does the stat box look like for each of them?
CMC on 80% of the snaps? Mason just a couple carries to give McCaffrey a quick breather?
I would think we might see something more like 60/40 - 70/30 and when Mason is on the field they are going to want to run fresh legs at the defenses they face

You can't ignore how good Mason looks

 

[Smack Tripper]

Round 5, at best. Don't catch a falling knife.

And I know he will go before that.

He just hit the wire in my Guillotine League, will report back on that bidding, I'm fascinated to see that

I'll probably poke in with 100 out of 1000... I know his floor is 350 though based on this league, would really think he goes for 650 or so, and if he was healthy, obviously, you bet the stack

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I'm shocked to hear so many people down on CMC. I think CMC is the second best player in the league, behind only Mahomes. His injury is no doubt a worry but the fact San Fran hasn't IR'd him yet is promising.

I personally would be ecstatic to land a falling CMC.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

He’d definitely still have a first round ADP. 12 out of 12 people aren’t going to let him fall that far. I wouldn’t take him 1.01 anymore but I don’t think I would pass on him in the back half of the first round.

Would be interesting to hear, for those who would rank him outside the top 12, which 12+ players you’d put in front of him now.

 

[Soulfly3]

Glad im not involved in the situation at all, as a non - CMC owner... But i do have mason on my bench, held for this exact moment.

Something tells me if this was ANY other team and ANY other player, he'd be on IR or at the very least, doubtful at all times until healed.

But he's their centrepiece, he's one of the faces of the league and teams HAVE to plan for him.

So he sits in limbo for fantasy owners to stress over

 

[travdogg]

I don't think I'd have him lower than 10 overall.

 

[Chaka]

Below Mason.

 

[Mookie]

Reaching early for Mason as a handcuff was essential for CMC owners. That combo is still worthy of a top 3 pick IMO.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Glad im not involved in the situation at all, as a non - CMC owner... But i do have mason on my bench, held for this exact moment.

Something tells me if this was ANY other team and ANY other player, he'd be on IR or at the very least, doubtful at all times until healed.

But he's their centrepiece, he's one of the faces of the league and teams HAVE to plan for him.

So he sits in limbo for fantasy owners to stress over

But we're all involved to some extent. The big question today for Fantasy Football is what do you do if you have McCaffrey on your roster AND what do you do if you'd consider trading for McCaffrey?

That's why I wanted to do the ranking question this way.

 

[Soulfly3]

Glad im not involved in the situation at all, as a non - CMC owner... But i do have mason on my bench, held for this exact moment.

Something tells me if this was ANY other team and ANY other player, he'd be on IR or at the very least, doubtful at all times until healed.

But he's their centrepiece, he's one of the faces of the league and teams HAVE to plan for him.

So he sits in limbo for fantasy owners to stress over

But we're all involved to some extent. The big question today for Fantasy Football is what do you do if you have McCaffrey on your roster AND what do you do if you'd consider trading for McCaffrey?

That's why I wanted to do the ranking question this way.

Wouldn't touch him in rnd 1.
We are watching his demise.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Glad im not involved in the situation at all, as a non - CMC owner... But i do have mason on my bench, held for this exact moment.

Something tells me if this was ANY other team and ANY other player, he'd be on IR or at the very least, doubtful at all times until healed.

But he's their centrepiece, he's one of the faces of the league and teams HAVE to plan for him.

So he sits in limbo for fantasy owners to stress over

But we're all involved to some extent. The big question today for Fantasy Football is what do you do if you have McCaffrey on your roster AND what do you do if you'd consider trading for McCaffrey?

That's why I wanted to do the ranking question this way.

Wouldn't touch him in rnd 1.
We are watching his demise.

Where would you rank him overall today?

 

[The General]

If it’s today…Looking at drafts would be around the Kyren Williams / Travis Entienne area, around pick 15 or so seems right. Would have to pick Mason around 60, so would stay away from the situation and let someone else deal with it.

If he were still there by pick 30 or so would do it.

This can change drastically with any news.

 

[Dizzy]

Would have been a better question last week after the Achilles was added. The real question to me (now) is where would you rank Jordan Mason?

For the poll I selected 1-12, but really ANY runningback in the SFF "system" fits this ranking.

 

[stillfeelme]

If I know a player has a calf and Achilles issue that the team hid and they demonstrated they have a backup RB that can probably do 80% of what CMC could do. I wouldn't touch until early round 3. Too risky and to make it work means you have take Mason at higher draft capital

 

[Gally]

I put in the 13-24 range but if I was at the end of round 1 I would seriously consider taking the plunge. It's risky and would require reaching for Mason (not sure where and it would be a good follow on question @Joe Bryant) but that combo is still a fairly strong RB for FF.

 

[Soulfly3]

Glad im not involved in the situation at all, as a non - CMC owner... But i do have mason on my bench, held for this exact moment.

Something tells me if this was ANY other team and ANY other player, he'd be on IR or at the very least, doubtful at all times until healed.

But he's their centrepiece, he's one of the faces of the league and teams HAVE to plan for him.

So he sits in limbo for fantasy owners to stress over

But we're all involved to some extent. The big question today for Fantasy Football is what do you do if you have McCaffrey on your roster AND what do you do if you'd consider trading for McCaffrey?

That's why I wanted to do the ranking question this way.

Wouldn't touch him in rnd 1.
We are watching his demise.

Where would you rank him overall today?

I'm probably the wrong guy to ask, because if I have an inkling that a player is washed (bar JG, he's a unicorn tho) then Im out. Now with the "double" injury news.....
I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.
Mason just showed, v a tough DEF, that they're fine without CMC. Not as good, obv, but fine.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.

Thanks. How much later?

If the McCaffrey GM in your league offered you a straight trade for a player you had rated in the 3rd round would you do it?

Or are you talking like 5th round or later?

 

[menobrown]

I'd have him 9th or 10th overall.

 

[Soulfly3]

I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.

Thanks. How much later?

If the McCaffrey GM in your league offered you a straight trade for a player you had rated in the 3rd round would you do it?

Or are you talking like 5th round or later?

Based on what we know as of today... Ya, I guess around rnd 5/6.

But even then... I legitimately think his season might be hanging in the balance. I just wouldn't want to touch him.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.

Thanks. How much later?

If the McCaffrey GM in your league offered you a straight trade for a player you had rated in the 3rd round would you do it?

Or are you talking like 5th round or later?

Based on what we know as of today... Ya, I guess around rnd 5/6.

But even then... I legitimately think his season might be hanging in the balance. I just wouldn't want to touch him.

Thank you. I've been fascinated by the ranges people see for him.

I'm not as negative as you there. But I'm a lot more negative than many people I see that seemingly shrug off any worries.

Part of why this game is fun.

 

[Soulfly3]

I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.

Thanks. How much later?

If the McCaffrey GM in your league offered you a straight trade for a player you had rated in the 3rd round would you do it?

Or are you talking like 5th round or later?

Based on what we know as of today... Ya, I guess around rnd 5/6.

But even then... I legitimately think his season might be hanging in the balance. I just wouldn't want to touch him.

Thank you. I've been fascinated by the ranges people see for him.

I'm not as negative as you there. But I'm a lot more negative than many people I see that seemingly shrug off any worries.

Part of why this game is fun.

Not pinning my season on a guy whose team has completely crapped on the injury reporting system for.

That tells me it's likely way more serious than expected, and the risk of reinjury, if/when he returns, is high.

Injury risk is for everyone, but I don't need an excess of it, and have it already existing and a problem.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.

Thanks. How much later?

If the McCaffrey GM in your league offered you a straight trade for a player you had rated in the 3rd round would you do it?

Or are you talking like 5th round or later?

Based on what we know as of today... Ya, I guess around rnd 5/6.

But even then... I legitimately think his season might be hanging in the balance. I just wouldn't want to touch him.

Thank you. I've been fascinated by the ranges people see for him.

I'm not as negative as you there. But I'm a lot more negative than many people I see that seemingly shrug off any worries.

Part of why this game is fun.

Not pinning my season on a guy whose team has completely crapped on the injury reporting system for.

That tells me it's likely way more serious than expected, and the risk of reinjury, if/when he returns, is high.

Injury risk is for everyone, but I don't need an excess of it, and have it already existing and a problem.

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean.

They reported him as questionable in the injury system.

 

[fruity pebbles]

If I was doing a redraft today, I’d take him at the turn. The risk reward at that spot is perfect for a potential league winner imo.

 

[zoonation]

I want no part of what could be a season long headache with the injury. Seems like a chronic thing at this point. Has been dealing with it all summer. I want shares of Mason, who could be a league winner at best and a flex play a lot of weeks. I just don’t see CMC going back to 25+ touches anytime soon given the type of injury.

 

[Football Jones]

Reaching early for Mason as a handcuff was essential for CMC owners. That combo is still worthy of a top 3 pick IMO.

That's the key. You can take a chance on CMC, but you have to get Mason.

That said, a lot of people weren't as high on Mason as many of us so that strategy was extra risky in their minds.

 

[beef]

League Dominator rest of the season rankings has him #1.

 

[Soulfly3]

I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.

Thanks. How much later?

If the McCaffrey GM in your league offered you a straight trade for a player you had rated in the 3rd round would you do it?

Or are you talking like 5th round or later?

Based on what we know as of today... Ya, I guess around rnd 5/6.

But even then... I legitimately think his season might be hanging in the balance. I just wouldn't want to touch him.

Thank you. I've been fascinated by the ranges people see for him.

I'm not as negative as you there. But I'm a lot more negative than many people I see that seemingly shrug off any worries.

Part of why this game is fun.

Not pinning my season on a guy whose team has completely crapped on the injury reporting system for.

That tells me it's likely way more serious than expected, and the risk of reinjury, if/when he returns, is high.

Injury risk is for everyone, but I don't need an excess of it, and have it already existing and a problem.

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean.

They reported him as questionable in the injury system.

And do you think he was questionable? I dont. I think he was out almost all along (doubtful at ABSOLUTE best until mid-week), and SF knew that.

So did Mason.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Reaching early for Mason as a handcuff was essential for CMC owners. That combo is still worthy of a top 3 pick IMO.

Not sure I agree with top-three billing. I think Mason will have a real role going forward. Every third series, goal line work after CMC gets his vanity touchdown, and carries when the game looks out of hand. CMC will shine early in the game, and when it's close, but they want to be careful with him. It's only week 2, but they have their eyes on January and beyond. If he's ailing and they have a viable backup, why rush him back if they're winning? And when he does come back, can you start him his first game back? How many weeks before you get to really use him with confidence?

To answer the question, I think he makes sense at the first turn. But his arrow is pointing downward. They aren't lost without him.

 

[rockaction]

I wouldn't take him until the 3.01. I need floor, and he doesn't provide that. I can usually use my FF knowledge to excel in the rounds 3-8 of a draft. That's where my advantage (not among people here, but your average ff player) comes into play. I might not even pick him with the 3.01 depending on who is there. I think he's going to miss some time, and here's the bigger concern (I read the Adam Harstad article) to me: He might not come back as effective as he was, or SF might ease him along until their own playoffs. I don't need that. I need full-bore ahead and max effort from my guys.

I also would not have selected Chase until the 3rd either this year. I've been playing this game a long time, and holdouts and injuries at the beginning utterly sink rosters and teams. And I definitely need my first- and second-round picks to be max effort, hopefully with 16 games played until I win the championship. That's how I hope to do it.

 

[TheWinz]

Trying to guess his current worth is impossible, because only a select few people truly know how injured he is, and I guarantee they aren't on this website. Let's just say he is somewhere between the top RB and waiver wire fodder. Any more specific than that and you're effectively assigning a return date and/or health percentage, neither of which you know.

 

[rockaction]

Trying to guess his current worth is impossible, because only a select few people truly know how injured he is, and I guarantee they aren't on this website.

Nobody is asking that. Joe wants to know how we subjectively value him so we can set a price, which is different than an objective assessment of his worth.

 

[TheWinz]

Trying to guess his current worth is impossible, because only a select few people truly know how injured he is, and I guarantee they aren't on this website.

Nobody is asking that. Joe wants to know how we subjectively value him so we can set a price, which is different than an objective assessment of his worth.

Here is what Joe asked...

Where would you rank Christian McCaffrey overall today in a PPR redraft league?
Throw out week one, season starts in week 2 and ends in week 17.

Let me ask you. Where would you rank him, exactly as Joe posted the question?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Trying to guess his current worth is impossible, because only a select few people truly know how injured he is, and I guarantee they aren't on this website. Let's just say he is somewhere between the top RB and waiver wire fodder. Any more specific than that and you're effectively assigning a return date and/or health percentage, neither of which you know.

For sure the people who know the most are on the team and staff.

But guessing how players should be valued with incomplete information is essentially the game of what we do.

I do think we can get to good decisions or at least the best decisions we can make.

 

[rockaction]

Trying to guess his current worth is impossible, because only a select few people truly know how injured he is, and I guarantee they aren't on this website.

Nobody is asking that. Joe wants to know how we subjectively value him so we can set a price, which is different than an objective assessment of his worth.

Here is what Joe asked...

Where would you rank Christian McCaffrey overall today in a PPR redraft league?
Throw out week one, season starts in week 2 and ends in week 17.

Let me ask you. Where would you rank him, exactly as Joe posted the

25-36 was the poll option, although I’m rethinking what I wrote considering what Joe asked. Probably no higher (meaning behind 18 guys) than 19. I don’t trust his body. I had the worst year ever the year I picked him in the first. Just had a dogcrap team that year.

 

[rockaction]

Which is NOT irrelevant because similar games were played with us and the injury report.

 

[ChiefD]

He's been on my do not draft list since his Panthers years. Just too unreliable.

 

[Soulfly3]

I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.

Thanks. How much later?

If the McCaffrey GM in your league offered you a straight trade for a player you had rated in the 3rd round would you do it?

Or are you talking like 5th round or later?

Based on what we know as of today... Ya, I guess around rnd 5/6.

But even then... I legitimately think his season might be hanging in the balance. I just wouldn't want to touch him.

Thank you. I've been fascinated by the ranges people see for him.

I'm not as negative as you there. But I'm a lot more negative than many people I see that seemingly shrug off any worries.

Part of why this game is fun.

Not pinning my season on a guy whose team has completely crapped on the injury reporting system for.

That tells me it's likely way more serious than expected, and the risk of reinjury, if/when he returns, is high.

Injury risk is for everyone, but I don't need an excess of it, and have it already existing and a problem.

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean.

They reported him as questionable in the injury system.

And do you think he was questionable? I dont. I think he was out almost all along (doubtful at ABSOLUTE best until mid-week), and SF knew that.

So did Mason.

I stand firmer than I did before, Joe.

I hope this answers your original question

 

[TheWinz]

He's been on my do not draft list since his Panthers years. Just too unreliable.

Technically, CMC is named Jordan Mason right now, and started the season as RB5.

 

[habsfan]

For polling purposes, I would stay away solely because I have no idea what is wrong with him and no confidence in what is being said / not said based on how SF is handling it. It's a calf. Then you head whispers of "achilles". Most of us aren't doctors but there is a decent-sized "database" of common and reasonably well understood football injuries. When you know what you're dealing with you can apply that injury discount. No idea here.

 

[NumberOneFan]

I’d put him in the after Ekeler/Robinson tier this morning knowing they’re considering IR. Comps to Gurley are sobering.

 

[TheWinz]

He's been on my do not draft list since his Panthers years. Just too unreliable.

For 2022 and 2023, CMC was the poster child for reliability. He finished RB1 and RB2 in back-to-back seasons, and scored 356 and 395 PPR FP. You know who was the last RB to have back-to-back seasons of 350+ points? CMC again, in 2018 and 2019, when he went for 469 and 387.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I just legitimately wouldn't touch him unless we started getting to the later rounds.

Thanks. How much later?

If the McCaffrey GM in your league offered you a straight trade for a player you had rated in the 3rd round would you do it?

Or are you talking like 5th round or later?

Based on what we know as of today... Ya, I guess around rnd 5/6.

But even then... I legitimately think his season might be hanging in the balance. I just wouldn't want to touch him.

Thank you. I've been fascinated by the ranges people see for him.

I'm not as negative as you there. But I'm a lot more negative than many people I see that seemingly shrug off any worries.

Part of why this game is fun.

Not pinning my season on a guy whose team has completely crapped on the injury reporting system for.

That tells me it's likely way more serious than expected, and the risk of reinjury, if/when he returns, is high.

Injury risk is for everyone, but I don't need an excess of it, and have it already existing and a problem.

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean.

They reported him as questionable in the injury system.

And do you think he was questionable? I dont. I think he was out almost all along (doubtful at ABSOLUTE best until mid-week), and SF knew that.

So did Mason.

I stand firmer than I did before, Joe.

I hope this answers your original question

Thanks. Everyone can stand firmer now. For the question you asked about the injury system, yes, I agree this answers the question there. They are using the Injury system as it's intended. The next step in the system will be if they declare him for IR today. We'll see soon there.

 

[Joe Bryant]

It does feel like Christian McCaffrey will be connected to many league winners and losers this year.

If you trade Ekeler for him and McCaffrey comes back strong, that's a huge win.

If you refuse an Ekeler trade and Ekeler plays well while McCaffrey misses most of the season and is ineffective in games he plays, that's a big loss.

Part of what makes fantasy football fun. But it's a challenge.

 

[SayWhat?]

Ekeler? Austin Ekeler, backup running back for the Commanders? C’mon. If McCaffrey plays 1 game this year he’s more valuable than Austin Ekeler.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

It does feel like Christian McCaffrey will be connected to many league winners and losers this year.

If you trade Ekeler for him and McCaffrey comes back strong, that's a huge win.

If you refuse an Ekeler trade and Ekeler plays well while McCaffrey misses most of the season and is ineffective in games he plays, that's a big loss.

Part of what makes fantasy football fun. But it's a challenge.

I wouldn't trade him for Ekeler but that's the right way to think about it. Who would you trade him for straight up right now? Somewhere in that Kamara/Pollard/Najee tier of low-end RB2s?