Which 2005 draft WR will be a star in next 2 years (1 Viewer)

[bigreese82]

Who is the budding star? I left Reggie Brown,Matt Jones, and Braylon Edwards to see who the sleepers are in everyone's mind. Who will be a top 15 wr in the next 2-3 years? All these WRs were taken in the first 3 rounds. We all know it can take a second for wrs to show their true colors

 

[Kit Fisto]

Vincent Jackson.

 

[ATC1]

Terrance Murphy making a come back. It's a shame really, I liked him as a player.

 

[Duckboy]

Voted for Clayton as I see him most likely, but not sure I see any of these guys in that role. Bradley is the other one that could be close imo.

 

[Richard_Simmons]

Talent wise, I'd take Chris Henry over any non-Braylon WR. But given he's an airhead, I'll take Roddy White.

 

[bigreese82]

So are you guys thinking that Clayton is the only legitamate number 1 wr on this list? I voted for Troy Williamson. I just think he has the IT factor. He will be a slow learner though but should make strides toward the end of this year

Who do you have stashed on your Dynasty roster of these guys

 

[T Man]

And Matt Jones is not on the list because????

I would vote Matt Jones over all of these guys, but absent him, I go with Clayton.

 

[Duckboy]

So are you guys thinking that Clayton is the only legitamate number 1 wr on this list? I voted for Troy Williamson. I just think he has the IT factor. He will be a slow learner though but should make strides toward the end of this year

Who do you have stashed on your Dynasty roster of these guys

No, just think of the guys listed he has the best shot. Of the 2005 WRs, I see Edwards as a regular top 15, Matt Jones with a few top 15 years, and Brown with a pretty good shot at a few also. That's 3 guys with better shots imo on a regular basis than who you listed.

 

[bigreese82]

And Matt Jones is not on the list because????

I would vote Matt Jones over all of these guys, but absent him, I go with Clayton.

Didn't put him, R.Brown and B. Edwards on the list because they are already their teams declared #1 WR

 

[diesel7982]

And Matt Jones is not on the list because????

I would vote Matt Jones over all of these guys, but absent him, I go with Clayton.

Didn't put him, R.Brown and B. Edwards on the list because they are already their teams declared #1 WR

Roddy White is as much of a #1 WR as Edwards or Jones is.

 

[bigreese82]

And Matt Jones is not on the list because????

I would vote Matt Jones over all of these guys, but absent him, I go with Clayton.

Didn't put him, R.Brown and B. Edwards on the list because they are already their teams declared #1 WR

Roddy White is as much of a #1 WR as Edwards or Jones is.

I would disagree. I don't think there is a clear separation between him and Michael Jenkins. Plus Vick limits his upside Plus FBGs have him listed as a #2 WR on their depthcharts

 

[bigreese82]

What did Clayton do to make him the MAN? He did only catch 2 TD passes. Did he show anything to make him project to more than a good #2WR

 

[Beaumont]

And Matt Jones is not on the list because????

I would vote Matt Jones over all of these guys, but absent him, I go with Clayton.

Didn't put him, R.Brown and B. Edwards on the list because they are already their teams declared #1 WR

Roddy White is as much of a #1 WR as Edwards or Jones is.

This is absolutely correct!

 

[MLBrandow]

Terrance Murphy making a come back. It's a shame really, I liked him as a player.

I voted Clayton based on my assumption that Terrence Murphy will not play in the NFL again.If he comes back, and moreover, if he came back 100%, then I take Murphy by a lot. He looked like a stud in the making every time I saw him and got nothing but rave reviews from the coaching staff.

He would have emerged last year as a solid fantasy WR3 (and WR2 for GB) had he not been almost quadraplized in the CAR game.

 

[mike303]

REGGIE BROWN.

SAMIE PARKER.

 

[Couch Potato]

How many of you know that WRs Mark Clayton, Brandon Jones and Mark Bradley were all on the 2004 Oklahoma Sooners?

Given the top-15 in 2-3 year parameters -

Mark Clayton - Should be productive but not top-15. Not in a top-flight offense for the forseeable future. McNair's skills declining, Boller is behind him, and the team prefers to run the ball. Clayton shares catches with McNair-favorite Mason (aging but still good for this 2-3 year window) and Heap.

Troy Williamson - Surprised many to be drafted so high, with lots of raw talent but much to learn. Path to top-15 in 2-3 years possible but I wouldn't count on it. Could definitely emerge ahead of KRob in that time, but QB situation iffy with 37 year old Johnson near the end and a big drop off after that. T. Jackson's learning curve (if he becomes the starter) would probably mean a drop in passing numbers overall for awhile. We'll see Williamson's best 4-5 years away and maybe top-15 then.

Mike Williams - He has shown a lack of conditioning, motivation, and maturity since being drafted. Let's see him climb the depth chart and actually be on the field before thinking top-anything. Even then, he's too slow to ever be a top-15.

Roddy White - Seems to have lots of talent and motivation, and that's a good sign. Has a small chance, but he's sharing balls with Crumpler and Jenkins. More troublesome, Atlanta's run-first philosophy, Vick's low pass attempts (many planned pass plays become runs) and low completion percentage put Atlanta perennially near the bottom of the league in WR pass completions. I see White moving up the rankings in the next 2-3 years, but probably not to top-15.

Mark Bradley - I like his situation, but not for top-15 status. Muhammad, aside from 2004, has never been special (lots of years with injuries) and is now getting long in the tooth. TE is not much of a pass-catching position for the Bears, and once Benson takes over completely in the next couple of years RB will not be a big pass-catching position either. Berrian or a rookie will likely replace Muhammad at some point in the next 2-3 years and Bradley will be the WR1. So, Bradley should get a relatively good share of the Bears targets. They have never been a pass-happy team, though, and that isn't likely to change any time soon given their great defense and mediocre QB situation.

Roscoe Parrish - Most viewed him as a reach in the 2nd round. He's small even compared to S. Moss and S. Smith, and doesn't have elite pass-catching skills. Will never be the Bills' WR1 and probably not a WR2 either. No chance at top-15.

Terrance Murphy - Damaged goods. Just playing again would be an accomplishment.

Vincent Jackson - Excellent situation to emerge in the next 2-3 years, with high 1st-round QB Rivers development, McCardell near the end, and Parker not a WR1. Gates will get a lot of catches though, and Jackson hasn't shown yet that he can make the transition to effective NFL starter having never played Division I ball. Still, monster production at Div. 2, and his great speed and size, and the chance to become the WR1 in a productive offense at least give him a chance to reach top-15 if all goes right.

Brandon Jones - Too much going against him in the next 2-3 years. ACL tear last year will pretty much make him a non-factor in 2006 (PUP list has been mentioned to start the year), giving other young WRs Roby, Williams, Calico, Orr and chance to impress. Givens and Bennett ahead of him as starters. Could earn a starting role in 2007 maybe, but definitely not top-15 material.

Chris Henry - T-R-O-U-B-L-E, stay away. With all his problems, no team will put a lot of their eggs in the Henry basket. Never mind the talent, he'll be a role player if he's even in the league. No way he'll be a WR1 in the next 2-3 years.

I voted Vincent Jackson, and I'd follow that with Williamson, then Clayton. If I had to bet, though, it would be that none of them make top-15 in 2-3 years.

 

[Couch Potato]

REGGIE BROWN.

SAMIE PARKER.

Didn't read the 1st post, did you (re: Brown). And Parker wasn't drafted in 2005.

 

[JayMan]

How many of you know that WRs Mark Clayton, Brandon Jones and Mark Bradley were all on the 2004 Oklahoma Sooners?

Given the top-15 in 2-3 year parameters -

Mark Clayton - Should be productive but not top-15. Not in a top-flight offense for the forseeable future. McNair's skills declining, Boller is behind him, and the team prefers to run the ball. Clayton shares catches with McNair-favorite Mason (aging but still good for this 2-3 year window) and Heap.

Troy Williamson - Surprised many to be drafted so high, with lots of raw talent but much to learn. Path to top-15 in 2-3 years possible but I wouldn't count on it. Could definitely emerge ahead of KRob in that time, but QB situation iffy with 37 year old Johnson near the end and a big drop off after that. T. Jackson's learning curve (if he becomes the starter) would probably mean a drop in passing numbers overall for awhile. We'll see Williamson's best 4-5 years away and maybe top-15 then.

Mike Williams - He has shown a lack of conditioning, motivation, and maturity since being drafted. Let's see him climb the depth chart and actually be on the field before thinking top-anything. Even then, he's too slow to ever be a top-15.

Roddy White - Seems to have lots of talent and motivation, and that's a good sign. Has a small chance, but he's sharing balls with Crumpler and Jenkins. More troublesome, Atlanta's run-first philosophy, Vick's low pass attempts (many planned pass plays become runs) and low completion percentage put Atlanta perennially near the bottom of the league in WR pass completions. I see White moving up the rankings in the next 2-3 years, but probably not to top-15.

Mark Bradley - I like his situation, but not for top-15 status. Muhammad, aside from 2004, has never been special (lots of years with injuries) and is now getting long in the tooth. TE is not much of a pass-catching position for the Bears, and once Benson takes over completely in the next couple of years RB will not be a big pass-catching position either. Berrian or a rookie will likely replace Muhammad at some point in the next 2-3 years and Bradley will be the WR1. So, Bradley should get a relatively good share of the Bears targets. They have never been a pass-happy team, though, and that isn't likely to change any time soon given their great defense and mediocre QB situation.

Roscoe Parrish - Most viewed him as a reach in the 2nd round. He's small even compared to S. Moss and S. Smith, and doesn't have elite pass-catching skills. Will never be the Bills' WR1 and probably not a WR2 either. No chance at top-15.

Terrance Murphy - Damaged goods. Just playing again would be an accomplishment.

Vincent Jackson - Excellent situation to emerge in the next 2-3 years, with high 1st-round QB Rivers development, McCardell near the end, and Parker not a WR1. Gates will get a lot of catches though, and Jackson hasn't shown yet that he can make the transition to effective NFL starter having never played Division I ball. Still, monster production at Div. 2, and his great speed and size, and the chance to become the WR1 in a productive offense at least give him a chance to reach top-15 if all goes right.

Brandon Jones - Too much going against him in the next 2-3 years. ACL tear last year will pretty much make him a non-factor in 2006 (PUP list has been mentioned to start the year), giving other young WRs Roby, Williams, Calico, Orr and chance to impress. Givens and Bennett ahead of him as starters. Could earn a starting role in 2007 maybe, but definitely not top-15 material.

Chris Henry - T-R-O-U-B-L-E, stay away. With all his problems, no team will put a lot of their eggs in the Henry basket. Never mind the talent, he'll be a role player if he's even in the league. No way he'll be a WR1 in the next 2-3 years.

I voted Vincent Jackson, and I'd follow that with Williamson, then Clayton. If I had to bet, though, it would be that none of them make top-15 in 2-3 years.

as usual...I have to agree - we are looking for TOtential here... and only Vincent Jackson (and Brandon Marshall this year) make the list, In my opinion...

Both are very raw - diamonds in the rough... but as they say "diamonds are a FFers best friend"...

 

[WhoDat]

What did Clayton do to make him the MAN? He did only catch 2 TD passes. Did he show anything to make him project to more than a good #2WR

The proverbial light went off for him over the last couple of games. He looked very good and, if memory serves, a few of those games were prime time. Folks started trading for him in dynasty leagues just after season's end and prior to the April draft. His cost at the time was still reasonable but, now, the price is farily substantial. He is going to be good. There are enough telling signs with the Ravens that, if things do not get better this year, changes will be made. It is presumptuous to think he is part of a stagnant offense for the next 2-3 years or that the arrival of McNair automatically vaults Mason back to the same form he had 2-4 years ago. Clayton is going to take a decent junk of yardage away from Mason this year and could very well be in another offensive system sooner than later.

My feeling is that the last time Clayton will be affordable is right now. Was not the best athlete of the WR in last year's class but had the best set of hands and most polished route running ability. He was far less of a project than everyone not named Edwards or Brown, opinion.

Speaking of Edwards, he was starting to look scary special prior to injury. He was getting it and becoming fluent in the offense. It was very unfortunate to see him get injured.

 

[bigreese82]

WRs year #1

Chad Johnson caught 28 passes w/ 1 td

Hines Ward had 15 rec and 0 tds

Terrell Owens had 35 receptions and 4 tds

Tyrone Calico had 18 receptions and 4 tds(hard to use year 1 as a gauge)

 

[-OZ-]

REGGIE BROWN.

SAMIE PARKER.

Didn't read the 1st post, did you (re: Brown). And Parker wasn't drafted in 2005.

Crap. You might edit the first post, as I (like many I assume) looked for MJ immediately.

Out of these, Clayton has the most talent, but might not be top 15 material when McNair leaves, or before with Mason in town. Still, if Bralon, MJ and Reggie are off the table, he's my pick. White would be 2nd.

Anyone want the Extreme long shot?

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

I voted Vincent Jackson, and I'd follow that with Williamson, then Clayton. If I had to bet, though, it would be that none of them make top-15 in 2-3 years.

Id agree none will probably hit the top15 platform anytime soon but if anything I like the three guys you selected. IMHO, however, Clayton seems to be the most immediate impact of the three with Jackson and Williamson in similar situations. While Jackson has the better QB situation, Williamsons' measurables will probably make him a primary target especially when Tavaris takes over. Maybe its just that I dont put too much stock into new QB situations which Vincent is facing now and Williamson soon. But great options in the future if their QB's live up to expectations.

 

[Couch Potato]

I voted Vincent Jackson, and I'd follow that with Williamson, then Clayton. If I had to bet, though, it would be that none of them make top-15 in 2-3 years.

Id agree none will probably hit the top15 platform anytime soon but if anything I like the three guys you selected. IMHO, however, Clayton seems to be the most immediate impact of the three with Jackson and Williamson in similar situations. While Jackson has the better QB situation, Williamsons' measurables will probably make him a primary target especially when Tavaris takes over. Maybe its just that I dont put too much stock into new QB situations which Vincent is facing now and Williamson soon. But great options in the future if their QB's live up to expectations.

I think my feeling about Clayton is that he'll be the best bet to be a reliable WR over the course of his career, in the 25-35 range, but not have that top-15 upside.Williamson I think has the best chance of top-15 someday, but just not within the 2-3 year window we were given.

Jackson has the best combination of factors to reach top-15 upside during the time frame, though he also has a greater chance of being a nobody than the other two.

Ignoring the original top-15 question, if I were drafting for a dynasty league I'd take Williamson, Clayton, and Jackson in that order.

I think a lot of the reason most folks in this poll are choosing Clayton is that he had the better rookie stats, but that's often a reflection of the team's current need at the position as much as it is the player's future success. In 2001 rookies Steve Smith had 10 catches, Santana Moss had 2, Chad Johnson had 28, Reggie Wayne had 27. All of them trailed Rod Gardner's 46. In 2002, Randle El's 47 catches led all rookie WRs, including Deion Branch, Javon Walker, and Donte Stallworth. I do think Clayton will have a good career. I just don't think he has top-15 upside.