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Which NYJ WR gets Asomugha this week? (1 Viewer)

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Anyone have any idea which NYJ WR will lineup across Asomugha this week?

I own Cotchery and given the lack of throws in Asomugha's direction this yr, if Jerricho is likely to get Nnamdi then i'll prob bench him.

Insight would be appreciated.

 
I don't know but since Favre is the qb, does it mean as much as a normal qb? Not putting down the question because I think opposing db's are an overlooked matter in WDIS decisions.

 
It really comes down to whether Asomugha will line up on one side of the field and stay there like Champ Bailey does or whether he will be assigned to one WR and match up against him wherever he goes. If it's the former, then he'll see both WRs because Coles and Cotchery move all over the field in alignments. If it's the latter, my guess is he'd match up on Coles since Coles is more likely to be viewed as the No. 1 WR (although it's probably more a case of a 1A and 1B situation).

Raiders homers, any insight into how Asomugha is used?

 
by_the_sea_wannabe said:
I don't know but since Favre is the qb, does it mean as much as a normal qb? Not putting down the question because I think opposing db's are an overlooked matter in WDIS decisions.
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You bring up a good point about opposing DBs mattering less vs. Favre ... he definitely has a bit of "Whateva', whateva' I do what I want" in him ...
 
by_the_sea_wannabe said:
I don't know but since Favre is the qb, does it mean as much as a normal qb?
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I'm not entirely sure, but i'm sure we can agree that Favre isn't stupid. DeAngelo Hall is one of the most overrated corners in the league, if the Jets feel they can exploit Hall by throwing to his side more often and avoiding Asomugha then I don't see why Favre would not follow this game plan? I guess the key thing to find out here is what someone mentioned earlier, ie Does Asomugha stay on one side of the field or does he lock onto one opponent. Similarly, do the Jets WR's invariably lineup on the same side of the field each play or do they rotate? These are the questions i'd be keen for Jets and Raiders homers to give some insight to.
 
tombonneau said:
by_the_sea_wannabe said:
I don't know but since Favre is the qb, does it mean as much as a normal qb? Not putting down the question because I think opposing db's are an overlooked matter in WDIS decisions.
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You bring up a good point about opposing DBs mattering less vs. Favre ... he definitely has a bit of "Whateva', whateva' I do what I want" in him ...
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agreed, Favre tends to throw in their direction rather than avoid them. w3 Cromartie >> Favrethis game comes to mind also last year when Favre took on Bailey on Monday Night

 
I'm always amazed at teams who have a great cover corner and they put him on one side of the field and leave him there. That's never made any sense to me. If the opposing offense is smart, they'll simply move their WRs around to get who they want isolated on the other side. Happens all the time. So I would fully expect to see both Coles and Cotchery get plenty of targets away from Asomugha.

 
Native said:
Why? Is he playing that well this year? Please elaborate. Thx
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Nnamdi Asomugha-DB- Raiders Oct. 15 - 8:22 pm et Raiders CB Nnamdi Asomugha estimates that he's had two balls thrown in his direction this season.Asomugha has to tell himself to "not get lazy" because teams throw at him so infrequently. That's meant more production for DeAngelo Hall on the other side. Asomugha has 11 tackles in five games; Hall has 29 and two picks. :goodposting:
 
yes he only lines up on the right side of the field and plays man 90% of the time. I think the jets will move the receivers around all game so it doesn't matter who you start vs. the raiders.

 
packersfan said:
I'm always amazed at teams who have a great cover corner and they put him on one side of the field and leave him there. That's never made any sense to me. If the opposing offense is smart, they'll simply move their WRs around to get who they want isolated on the other side. Happens all the time. So I would fully expect to see both Coles and Cotchery get plenty of targets away from Asomugha.
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Makes it easier for the DBs, coverage-wise. They just know they never have to worry about the right side. They can always roll coverage away, and there is less chance for confusion.
 
Coles receptions:

16 left, 3 middle, 5 right

BUT

Cotchery receptions

11 left, 3 middle, 9 right.

Stuckey

7 left, 3 middle, 4 right

Last season (with a different QB, obviously)

Coles 58% left, 34.7% right

Cotchery 46.3% left, 45.1% right

Summary

The Jets complete more passes to their WRs on the left-hand side than the right. The WRs swap around, but Coles has caught a bigger % on the left than Cotchery. Not much in it, but if you have both, Cotchery might be the % play.

I posted some research I'd done in the off-season on which WRs tend to line up where (it didn't get a single reply!). Ones to note who tended to line up largely on the left side (more than 60% of receptions) were Lee Evans, Reggie Wayne, Kevin Curtis, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson and Braylon Edwards.

 
packersfan said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Native said:
Why? Is he playing that well this year? Please elaborate. Thx
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Nnamdi Asomugha-DB- Raiders Oct. 15 - 8:22 pm et Raiders CB Nnamdi Asomugha estimates that he's had two balls thrown in his direction this season.
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Again, this is a combination of his talent and the fact smart offenses will simply scheme away from him and get the ball to their top WR(s) in other ways.
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Wow. Thanks. Keep it comin!
 
Lord Lucan said:
Coles receptions:16 left, 3 middle, 5 rightBUTCotchery receptions11 left, 3 middle, 9 right.Stuckey7 left, 3 middle, 4 rightLast season (with a different QB, obviously)Coles 58% left, 34.7% rightCotchery 46.3% left, 45.1% rightSummaryThe Jets complete more passes to their WRs on the left-hand side than the right. The WRs swap around, but Coles has caught a bigger % on the left than Cotchery. Not much in it, but if you have both, Cotchery might be the % play.I posted some research I'd done in the off-season on which WRs tend to line up where (it didn't get a single reply!). Ones to note who tended to line up largely on the left side (more than 60% of receptions) were Lee Evans, Reggie Wayne, Kevin Curtis, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson and Braylon Edwards.
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Wow! Now that's a quality set of information. Nice, and many thanks! :shrug:
 
Lord Lucan said:
Coles receptions:16 left, 3 middle, 5 rightBUTCotchery receptions11 left, 3 middle, 9 right.Stuckey7 left, 3 middle, 4 rightLast season (with a different QB, obviously)Coles 58% left, 34.7% rightCotchery 46.3% left, 45.1% rightSummaryThe Jets complete more passes to their WRs on the left-hand side than the right. The WRs swap around, but Coles has caught a bigger % on the left than Cotchery. Not much in it, but if you have both, Cotchery might be the % play.I posted some research I'd done in the off-season on which WRs tend to line up where (it didn't get a single reply!). Ones to note who tended to line up largely on the left side (more than 60% of receptions) were Lee Evans, Reggie Wayne, Kevin Curtis, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson and Braylon Edwards.
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Is that the Jets left, making it the Raiders right?
 
massraider said:
packersfan said:
I'm always amazed at teams who have a great cover corner and they put him on one side of the field and leave him there. That's never made any sense to me. If the opposing offense is smart, they'll simply move their WRs around to get who they want isolated on the other side. Happens all the time. So I would fully expect to see both Coles and Cotchery get plenty of targets away from Asomugha.
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Makes it easier for the DBs, coverage-wise. They just know they never have to worry about the right side. They can always roll coverage away, and there is less chance for confusion.
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True. But it also makes it easier for offenses to get the ball to their top WR if they simply move him around and get creative (which the best offenses tend to do). If a team has two good or great WRs (like the Jets) do, it doesn't much matter because even if one is taken out, the other will always have a favorable matchup on the other side.
 
Lord Lucan said:
-edit-SummaryThe Jets complete more passes to their WRs on the left-hand side than the right. The WRs swap around, but Coles has caught a bigger % on the left than Cotchery. Not much in it, but if you have both, Cotchery might be the % play.I posted some research I'd done in the off-season on which WRs tend to line up where (it didn't get a single reply!). Ones to note who tended to line up largely on the left side (more than 60% of receptions) were Lee Evans, Reggie Wayne, Kevin Curtis, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson and Braylon Edwards.
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Not to thread-jack, but I would've commented on the original post had I noticed it. I think this stat is a glaring absence from many considerations of WR performance week-to-week. Depending on the opponent, there can be considerations for facing a shutdown corner (Al Harris / Asomugha / etc) or facing a craptastic corner (Jason David last season comes to mind). As a side note, Reggie Wayne has been moved around much more this year and is lining up in the slot as much if not more than he lines up anywhere else.
 
Sylira21 said:
Lord Lucan said:
Coles receptions:16 left, 3 middle, 5 rightBUTCotchery receptions11 left, 3 middle, 9 right.Stuckey7 left, 3 middle, 4 rightLast season (with a different QB, obviously)Coles 58% left, 34.7% rightCotchery 46.3% left, 45.1% rightSummaryThe Jets complete more passes to their WRs on the left-hand side than the right. The WRs swap around, but Coles has caught a bigger % on the left than Cotchery. Not much in it, but if you have both, Cotchery might be the % play.I posted some research I'd done in the off-season on which WRs tend to line up where (it didn't get a single reply!). Ones to note who tended to line up largely on the left side (more than 60% of receptions) were Lee Evans, Reggie Wayne, Kevin Curtis, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson and Braylon Edwards.
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Wow! Now that's a quality set of information. Nice, and many thanks! :thumbup:
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WOW - Excellent Info and Excellent thread from the OP. :thumbup:
 
Season Targets

Coles 40

Cotchery 34

Season Red Zone targets

Coles 12

Cotchery 6

Season Goaline targets

Coles 4

Cotchery 0

Season 3rd down targets

Coles 13

Cotchery 15

Targets the past two games

Coles 23

Cotchery 13

Looks like Coles if you base it just on targets and not on what side he lines up.

 
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Cotchery lines up on the right side, and Coles on the left. The Jets put their wrs in motion more last year, and in previous years when Pennington was QB. There has been a lot less(or at least thats my impression) of that this year

 
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