Which players on most "Do Not Draft Lists" are you targeting? (1 Viewer)

[Judge Smails]

Most of the players on these lists are obvious. Question mark on playing 16 games. Lots of miles on the tires. Bad teams. But there's always gems that fall too far in drafts and become great value. Who has the best chance to buck what the masses are predicting and why?

 

[tone1oc]

Stevan Ridley - James White lacks talent, no one else close to the runner he is despite fumble issues.

Jonathan Stewart - I've never really invested in JStew so I don't have a history of disappointment. He's basically free and has ton of upside.

Hakeem Nicks - Health & Poor effort have plagued his production, I think both have been corrected in what figures to be a high volume passing game.

 

[Freelove]

Amendola. Undervalued; cheap enough to cut if all goes badly.

TRich. Promise of huge workload in high-powered offense and ADP is freefalling; handcuff is both obvious and cheap. Can lock down that running game for little overall cost.

 

[Soulfly3]

Josh Gordon

 

[SameSongNDance]

If by some miracle Amendola finishes a full 16 he'll give you a crazy return on your investment. He's currently being drafted as a high-end WR5, I'll take the gamble.

 

[Banger]

Percy Harvin

 

[CentralPA]

Steven Jackson. Injuries are still a major concern but the guy can still play at a high level when healthy.

Ray Rice: Despite his off the field issues and the 2 game suspension, he's still has plenty of tread left and it will show week 3 and beyond.

 

[bulger2holt]

If Harvin is there at the top of round 5, I'm buying.

 

[VA703]

run dmc

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

Josh Gordon

Anyone here surprised???

I'll go with Greg Jennings and DeAngelo Williams.

 

[VaTerp]

Foster and Harvin are two guys I continually see on avoid list that I'm targeting.

I will have a hard time passing on what I see as Foster's top 5 upside in the 3rd--I actually think he has 2nd round value--and think I may throw him out early in my auction, where I have seen some of the best deals, depending on how things go. The more I read the more I see I'm in the vast minority here but I think he has one more monster year in him. I think this team will be better than people think and they have a last place schedule that includes the weak defenses in the NFC East. If O'Brien can coach Fitzpatrick into avg QB play and cut down on the turnovers then Foster has a good chance to return to FF glory for at least one more year.

As for Harvin, I love the talent and think his skill set fits perfectly with Seattle's offense. I think they will get him the ball in a variety of ways and he will take advantage of Wilson's ability to improvise and extend plays. I see Seattle passing the ball more this year and maintaining their efficiency in doing so. I'm all in on Harvin as having low WR1/high WR2 upside with a WR3 price tag.

 

[FF Ninja]

Stevan Ridley - James White lacks talent, no one else close to the runner he is despite fumble issues.

Jonathan Stewart - I've never really invested in JStew so I don't have a history of disappointment. He's basically free and has ton of upside.

Hakeem Nicks - Health & Poor effort have plagued his production, I think both have been corrected in what figures to be a high volume passing game.

Amendola. Undervalued; cheap enough to cut if all goes badly.

TRich. Promise of huge workload in high-powered offense and ADP is freefalling; handcuff is both obvious and cheap. Can lock down that running game for little overall cost.

I was going to mention all of these guys, save for Nicks who was on my list until I saw he's not in line to start and Indy runs too many 2 TE sets to make the WR3 valuable. But I'll gladly try to buy low early in the season on him.

I can't have a lot of faith in Richardson, but the price is right.

Amendola is a better player than Edelman and he's much, much cheaper. Very simple.

Stewart's line gives me pause, but his price is too cheap to pass up. Injury to Tolbert or Williams and his value really goes up.

Ridley will almost certainly get you 1100/10. Hard pressed to beat that in the 7th round.

I also quite like Stacy, Wallace, and Ingram. Stacy is so cheap for a workhorse and is a vastly underrated talent. If chemistry with Tannehill improves, Wallace could be a WR1 again. I think Ingram finally gets 200 touches this year.

Spiller should get an honorable mention. This has to be the year FJax slows down and Brown is a great athlete but appears to lack vision or something. Not sure what his problem is.

 

[Judge Smails]

Stevan Ridley - James White lacks talent, no one else close to the runner he is despite fumble issues.

Jonathan Stewart - I've never really invested in JStew so I don't have a history of disappointment. He's basically free and has ton of upside.

Hakeem Nicks - Health & Poor effort have plagued his production, I think both have been corrected in what figures to be a high volume passing game.

Amendola. Undervalued; cheap enough to cut if all goes badly.

TRich. Promise of huge workload in high-powered offense and ADP is freefalling; handcuff is both obvious and cheap. Can lock down that running game for little overall cost.

I was going to mention all of these guys, save for Nicks who was on my list until I saw he's not in line to start and Indy runs too many 2 TE sets to make the WR3 valuable. But I'll gladly try to buy low early in the season on him.

I can't have a lot of faith in Richardson, but the price is right.

Amendola is a better player than Edelman and he's much, much cheaper. Very simple.

Stewart's line gives me pause, but his price is too cheap to pass up. Injury to Tolbert or Williams and his value really goes up.

Ridley will almost certainly get you 1100/10. Hard pressed to beat that in the 7th round.

I also quite like Stacy, Wallace, and Ingram. Stacy is so cheap for a workhorse and is a vastly underrated talent. If chemistry with Tannehill improves, Wallace could be a WR1 again. I think Ingram finally gets 200 touches this year.

Spiller should get an honorable mention. This has to be the year FJax slows down and Brown is a great athlete but appears to lack vision or something. Not sure what his problem is.

Great stuff here. The only one I'm iffy on is Stewart. Is this still a 3 headed monster in Carolina (4 with Cam)?

 

[zamboni]

I would echo Stewart, Richardson, and Ingram.

The guys are all starting RBs or a big part of an RBBC that could come cheap and if things hit right, they could pay off very nicely.

 

[tone1oc]

I'm iffy on Stewart fwiw, but at the price the risk is way worth the reward.

 

[FF Ninja]

I'm iffy on Stewart fwiw, but at the price the risk is way worth the reward.

Is that a late 90's Celica in your avatar?

Anyway, yeah, Stewart's appeal is all in his price. If he was going in the 7th, he wouldn't be appealing. Same with Richardson. People are down on them which is depressing their value to a point where they actually interest me. I had little to no interest in Richardson the last two years, but I try not to ignore players. If the price is right...

 

[tone1oc]

I'm iffy on Stewart fwiw, but at the price the risk is way worth the reward.

Is that a late 90's Celica in your avatar?

Anyway, yeah, Stewart's appeal is all in his price. If he was going in the 7th, he wouldn't be appealing. Same with Richardson. People are down on them which is depressing their value to a point where they actually interest me. I had little to no interest in Richardson the last two years, but I try not to ignore players. If the price is right...

Its actually a late 90's Tiburon EDIT: Does look more like the Celica

I'm also buying in to Ingram this year.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I would echo Stewart, Richardson, and Ingram.

The guys are all starting RBs or a big part of an RBBC that could come cheap and if things hit right, they could pay off very nicely.

Most of you guys seem to understand value better than many in my league. I'm sure to get a guffaw out of someone when I draft one of these guys late because the guy laughing burned an early round pick on them last year.

 

[Franknbeans]

Foster

 

[Grahamburn]

At WR35+ I'm all over Dwayne Bowe. He's going to be a VBD monster.

 

[Ilov80s]

Everyone seems really down on Ridley which seems to have made him a great value. There is too much opportunity to be taking rookies without clear roles over a guy that 2 years ago had 12TDs and has no real competition.

 

[Ted Mullins]

Stevan Ridley

Jonathan Stewart

Really like these two...Stewart has a long history of disappointing but costs next to nothing at this point.

 

[Anarchy99]

Hmmmm. Not sure if I really want to invest some time questioning some of the picks here, but what the hay . . .

How is Ridley a sure thing to get 1100/10? He had 800/7 last year and wasn't hurt . . . and Vereen missed half the season. I think Ridley is a decent bet to lead the team in carries, but I am not sure I would say his floor is 1100/10.

Bowe a VBD monster? Other than the fluke year he had 15 TD, his VBD scores have been 12, 28, 0, 31, 0, and 0. And he is suspended for the first game this season.

Nicks will be on the bench a ton with the Colts going 2 WR and 2 TE as their base offense. With the return of Wayne and Allen, I don't see Nicks worth a pick as a WR4 for fantasy purposes.

 

[Tanner9919]

Nicks. Indy can't run the ball, and Wayne is shot...but , he caught over 100 balls just two years ago, right? Been reading great reports on Nicks thus far in camp. I think he's vastly underrated...

Ray Rice.

 

[mr roboto]

Bowe and Harvin and Jennings I hope to be my 3 bench WRs.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Hmmmm. Not sure if I really want to invest some time questioning some of the picks here, but what the hay . . .

How is Ridley a sure thing to get 1100/10? He had 800/7 last year and wasn't hurt . . . and Vereen missed half the season. I think Ridley is a decent bet to lead the team in carries, but I am not sure I would say his floor is 1100/10.

Bowe a VBD monster? Other than the fluke year he had 15 TD, his VBD scores have been 12, 28, 0, 31, 0, and 0. And he is suspended for the first game this season.

Nicks will be on the bench a ton with the Colts going 2 WR and 2 TE as their base offense. With the return of Wayne and Allen, I don't see Nicks worth a pick as a WR4 for fantasy purposes.

Every time Ridley fumbles he might as well be pulling a hammy because he lands directly on the bench. The good thing is fumbling is infinitely easier to correct than durability issues. If he can get past the fumbling I'd say a multi touchdown season is inevitable but it's obviously not a lock. Since 2006, NE has finished top 3 in RZ attempts per game. In that same time span, they've finished in the top 5 (aside from 09) in rushing TDs per game. Over the past two years, they've lead the league in rushing TDs per game. What I'm trying to say is, NE is pretty good at scoring rushing TDs.

 

[cvnpoka]

Nicks. Indy can't run the ball, and Wayne is shot...but , he caught over 100 balls just two years ago, right? Been reading great reports on Nicks thus far in camp. I think he's vastly underrated...

Ray Rice.

rotoworld blurbs have not been kind to nicks. the most recent one cited observers calling his camp "run of the mill." in early august the indy paper said nicks was still experiencing nagging pain.

 

[Widbil83]

QB-

Foles- Way too much love looking at last year

Rodgers- Lacy is the big dog now

Brady- Wont live up to his ADP

RB-

Gerhart- Line, QB and team stink

Martin- Team stinks and Lovie is his coach

Ball- Had his Appendix out 3 weeks ago, John Fox is unpredictable with RBs

Bush- Been healthy but a train wreck waiting to happen and there's Bell

Matthews- Always hurt never have or would draft him

Richardson- Totally sucks

Wr-

Garçon- Won't even catch 70 balls, Jackson in town

Cruz- Most overrated WR in FFB

Fitzgerald- Wont live up to ADP still serviceable though.

Maclin- Harvin part deux

Jennings- 4th option on own team

Roddy White- 14th WR in PPR drafts when I would take 10 over him

Harvin- Can't string together a 4 game health streak.

TE-

Grownk- Taken in the 1st rd of a FPC Draft I was in. GL until the 7th injury,

Cameron- No way he comes close to his ADP in that offense.

Reed- See Harvin and Ryan Matthews.

 

[tone1oc]

QB-

Foles- Way too much love looking at last year

Rodgers- Lacy is the big dog now

Brady- Wont live up to his ADP

RB-

Gerhart- Line, QB and team stink

Martin- Team stinks and Lovie is his coach

Ball- Had his Appendix out 3 weeks ago, John Fox is unpredictable with RBs

Bush- Been healthy but a train wreck waiting to happen and there's Bell

Matthews- Always hurt never have or would draft him

Richardson- Totally sucks

Wr-

Garçon- Won't even catch 70 balls, Jackson in town

Cruz- Most overrated WR in FFB

Fitzgerald- Wont live up to ADP still serviceable though.

Maclin- Harvin part deux

Jennings- 4th option on own team

Roddy White- 14th WR in PPR drafts when I would take 10 over him

Harvin- Can't string together a 4 game health streak.

TE-

Grownk- Taken in the 1st rd of a FPC Draft I was in. GL until the 7th injury,

Cameron- No way he comes close to his ADP in that offense.

Reed- See Harvin and Ryan Matthews.

Wrong thread, but since you posted and in the spirit of this thread I've bolded the names of players that I have been targeting.

 

[Tanner9919]

Ray Rice

 

[Franknbeans]

Brady

 

[zamboni]

Everyone seems really down on Ridley which seems to have made him a great value. There is too much opportunity to be taking rookies without clear roles over a guy that 2 years ago had 12TDs and has no real competition.

I'd say Vereen and White are pretty good competition. And as others said, Ridley's fumble problems are rearing their ugly head again, which Belichick assuredly will not put up with.

 

[FF Ninja]

Hmmmm. Not sure if I really want to invest some time questioning some of the picks here, but what the hay . . .

How is Ridley a sure thing to get 1100/10? He had 800/7 last year and wasn't hurt . . . and Vereen missed half the season. I think Ridley is a decent bet to lead the team in carries, but I am not sure I would say his floor is 1100/10.

Bowe a VBD monster? Other than the fluke year he had 15 TD, his VBD scores have been 12, 28, 0, 31, 0, and 0. And he is suspended for the first game this season.

Nicks will be on the bench a ton with the Colts going 2 WR and 2 TE as their base offense. With the return of Wayne and Allen, I don't see Nicks worth a pick as a WR4 for fantasy purposes.

It's obviously a very fair question about Ridley, but with the departure of Blount, I don't think he's got any legitimate competition. Vereen looked ok running the ball, but keep in mind 97% of his rushing yards came from nickel or dime defenses. I have always been a believer in Blount's talent, so Ridley was effectively on my DND list last year but his price is about where it was in 2012 when he was unproven. I thought he was a good pick there when I wasn't sure if he could handle the load, but I think he's a bargain there now that he's proven he can and he's lost his primary competition. Don't get me wrong. i don't think Ridley is a great player - his goal line prowess is greatly overrated - but he will compile yards this year. He might not reach 10 TDs if the fumbling continues, but I can't see him getting less than 1100 yards if he's healthy.

I agree with you about Nicks. I'm not drafting him, but I'll be trying to acquire him on the cheap early in the season (he might even get dropped in some redrafts). I firmly believe he's the best WR on that team and by midseason things will have worked themselves out.

 

[Mr Non Sequitur]

Hmmmm. Not sure if I really want to invest some time questioning some of the picks here, but what the hay . . .

How is Ridley a sure thing to get 1100/10? He had 800/7 last year and wasn't hurt . . . and Vereen missed half the season. I think Ridley is a decent bet to lead the team in carries, but I am not sure I would say his floor is 1100/10.

Bowe a VBD monster? Other than the fluke year he had 15 TD, his VBD scores have been 12, 28, 0, 31, 0, and 0. And he is suspended for the first game this season.

Nicks will be on the bench a ton with the Colts going 2 WR and 2 TE as their base offense. With the return of Wayne and Allen, I don't see Nicks worth a pick as a WR4 for fantasy purposes.

In other news, a blizzard has snowed in the entire NFL and they canceled the season

You don't sugar coat it.

Outstanding!

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Easy answer for me: Ridley

Amazes me to see Richardson and S-Jax, with the fork sticking out of his back, going ahead of him.

I don't even see much difference this season between Alfred and Ridley. (And you can get Ridley some 6 rounds later) Ridley

 

[msommer]

Not sure if he is still on people do not draft lists (he certainly has been in the past)

CJ?K

Pretty sure he'll put up top 15 numbers as usual

 

[Billy Bats]

Wr-

Garçon- Won't even catch 70 balls, Jackson in town

On the flip side, if people are expecting 80 catches from Desean, they'll be sadly mistaken. Garçon will get his, moreso than Jackson.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

QB-

Foles- Way too much love looking at last year

Rodgers- Lacy is the big dog now

Brady- Wont live up to his ADP

RB-

Gerhart- Line, QB and team stink

Martin- Team stinks and Lovie is his coach

Ball- Had his Appendix out 3 weeks ago, John Fox is unpredictable with RBs

Bush- Been healthy but a train wreck waiting to happen and there's Bell

Matthews- Always hurt never have or would draft him

Richardson- Totally sucks

Wr-

Garçon- Won't even catch 70 balls, Jackson in town

Cruz- Most overrated WR in FFB

Fitzgerald- Wont live up to ADP still serviceable though.

Maclin- Harvin part deux

Jennings- 4th option on own team

Roddy White- 14th WR in PPR drafts when I would take 10 over him

Harvin- Can't string together a 4 game health streak.

TE-

Grownk- Taken in the 1st rd of a FPC Draft I was in. GL until the 7th injury,

Cameron- No way he comes close to his ADP in that offense.

Reed- See Harvin and Ryan Matthews.

It blows my mind that people think this. The Lacy lovefest is out of control.

 

[Gawain]

Only been one mention of mine in this thread and it's been derogatory (stick a fork in him), but mine is Steven Jackson. a 4th round pick rarely pans out. Jaquizz is a known mediocre player. Jones and White are healthy. The offense seems primed for a bounce back year and I can easily see Jackson putting up T-15 numbers as the 35th back off the board.

 

[Brony]

Michael Vick - most people passing on him cuz they love dogs. I'm willing to look past this and haul in another fantasy trophy.

 

[chinawildman]

Djax for me. Lots of questions surround him. Wr on a new team, RG3 not looking good, Gang affiliations, character concerns, etc... The bottom line is the guy has produced with McNabb/Kolb/Vick/Foles at QB and is a talent that seems to emerge regardless of who the QB is. Also happens to play flanker in Gruden's offense and is in a division where there will be plenty of shootouts.

 

[AMT]

LOL at Dwayne Bowe and Steven Jackson.

 

[cheese]

I think you guys are crazy on Nicks.

Agree on Amendola and Rice (if he's really being hated)

 

[Grahamburn]

LOL at Dwayne Bowe and Steven Jackson.

Maybe you aren't sure what this thread is about?

 

[Adam Harstad]

All of them.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Foster

Spiller

 

[VikingFrog]

RG3

 

[hines]

Foster is the most underrated player in fantasy right now. a fluky 2 TD season last year and an injury is the only reason he isn't in the top 10 like usual. he had 4.5 YPC and tons of catches and the TDs will come

 

[ponchsox]

MJD late. He's going to return top 25 RB value.

 

[Juzaba]

Rice, Foster, Jennings (Cassel named starter, yay!), Ridley like ya'll mentioned.

RWill has a nice early schedule for games that are not pushovers, so SEA won't rely only on Lynch.