which qb has been the most impressive? (1 Viewer)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

The bolded is just an opinion, nothing to really back up any argument. "What ifs"? really?And as you can see to how often I respond, I ignore nothing.ETA: so do you expect him to throw 50 every year, or break yardage records every 3 weeks?

no, I don't. But I also didn't expect the Pats to have the worst pass defense in the league.The awfulness of the Pats pass defense has been a much bigger surprise to me than Brady putting up great passing numbers.If you're looking at performance vs preseason expectations, it's Cam Newton and not even close.

 

[MarcO]

The bolded is just an opinion, nothing to really back up any argument. "What ifs"? really?

And as you can see to how often I respond, I ignore nothing.

ETA: so do you expect him to throw 50 every year, or break yardage records every 3 weeks?

no, I don't. But I also didn't expect the Pats to have the worst pass defense in the league.The awfulness of the Pats pass defense has been a much bigger surprise to me than Brady putting up great passing numbers.

If you're looking at performance vs preseason expectations, it's Cam Newton and not even close.

Matt Hasselback

 

[Workhorse]

I'm a Pats fan and I'd say Ryan Fitzpatrick. Two enormous comebacks in two consecutive weeks. Slinging the ball all over the place.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

If you're looking at performance vs preseason expectations, it's Cam Newton and not even close.

Matt Hasselback

Definitely off to a surprising start, but he played in a Super Bowl not that long ago and has a stud young WR in Kenny Britt to throw to plus a decent WR2 in Washington and a good TE in Cook.Newton played just one full year of Division I college in a spread offense and was known more for his running ability than his arm, but still managed to set the record for most passing yards in week 1 for a rookie and nearly beat the Packers in week 2. Week 3 was played in horrible weather conditions so tough to hold the lack of yardage against him, but he didn't make any mistakes and got the win.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

This is my point about Bias.

Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?

how are you impressed?

How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

Yes Brady's yardage and TD numbers are impressive, but his INT numbers are not impressive at all. He was a big part of the reason they lost in week 3. I could care less if a guy sets a TD and yardage record and throws a ton of INT's and can't get his team to the playoffs. Not saying the Pats won't make the playoffs, but my point is the most important thing a QB does is win games. Sure there's teams that have won with great defense and little help from the QB, but here we're talking about the best QB's in the league and the one who impresses me most is the one who not only puts up great numbers but is winning the games. That QB is Rogers with Brees a close second followed by Brady. This is just thru week 3, things may change, but I'm a Raider fan and could care less for all you Packers and Patriots homers who base arguments on team allegiance.

What about the Bills homer (Aaron) and a Niners homer (myself) arguing for the Panthers qb?

 

[elshagon]

This is my point about Bias.

Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?

how are you impressed?

How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

Yes Brady's yardage and TD numbers are impressive, but his INT numbers are not impressive at all. He was a big part of the reason they lost in week 3. I could care less if a guy sets a TD and yardage record and throws a ton of INT's and can't get his team to the playoffs. Not saying the Pats won't make the playoffs, but my point is the most important thing a QB does is win games. Sure there's teams that have won with great defense and little help from the QB, but here we're talking about the best QB's in the league and the one who impresses me most is the one who not only puts up great numbers but is winning the games. That QB is Rogers with Brees a close second followed by Brady. This is just thru week 3, things may change, but I'm a Raider fan and could care less for all you Packers and Patriots homers who base arguments on team allegiance.

What about the Bills homer (Aaron) and a Niners homer (myself) arguing for the Panthers qb?

I'd say Cam Newton is more of a surprise definitely, but his numbers don't match up to Rogers, Brees or Brady's. Through 3 weeks just looking at numbers and records I think you must throw Newton out of the running as well as Brady for most impressive. But that's just my opinion. I guess the word "impressive" is subjective, some take it to mean the biggest surprise, others the most yardage, but to me its a combo of yardage, td's, int's, win/loss record. To me the answer is Rogers, but if you're looking at biggest surprise then Newton's your man.

 

[sho nuff]

Packers and Patriots homers who base arguments on team allegiance.

How many are really doing this?Quite a few people arguing right now are not fans of either team.

 

[DocHolliday]

Newton - Unreal for a rookie to step in and play very, very well.

Fitzpatrick - Last season gave glimpses that he was capable of being very good. Two big comebacks in a row show a mental toughness that I did not see.

 

[Road Warriors]

If by impressive, you mean biggest surprise, I see this as a race between Newton and Fitzpatrick. Very low expectations coming into the season, and great results thus far ( moreso for Fitz, who is winning games, leading BUF to the top scoring team in the NFL )

If by impressive, you mean who's looked the best over these 3 weeks? I probably lean to Rodgers, but Brees and Brady are right there. Brady's INTs yesterday are hard to overlook. OTOH, his offense has looked damn near unstoppable, with most acknowledging that the only way the Pats offense doesn't put up big points is if they stop themselves. Without the INTs yesterday, Brady is running away with this conversation. With them, he slides back to the pack and makes it a discussion again.

 

[Run It Up]

Toss up between Bress Brady and Rodgers.

Close 4th is Stafford.

Brady leads the league so far this year in impressive plays, but Stafford is right behind him, he keeps fitting what seem like impossible passes in deep balls for Megatron, its just magical.

 

[Blue-Kun]

Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?

how are you impressed?

How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

he threw for 50 TDs not too long ago.Pats defense has been awful, which is why Brady has had to throw as much.

If Brady was playing with the Packers D or against a tougher schedule, he wouldn't have nearly the same numbers.

Why argue that it's a team game in some posts and then ignore the team factors when it suits the point you are trying to make?

The bolded is just an opinion, nothing to really back up any argument. "What ifs"? really?And as you can see to how often I respond, I ignore nothing.

ETA: so do you expect him to throw 50 every year, or break yardage records every 3 weeks?

This is unreal. You should stop now. Well you should have stopped 10 posts ago, but still wow.

 

[BassNBrew]

Its funny that last week, the brady haters justified saying rodgers was playing better despite brady winning the unanimous league mvp last year and being nfl player of the week in both week one and two, because of rodgers recent superbowl mvp, but many of those same people have been posting for years how brady was overrated because of his supperbowls. Now this week, after brady throws interceptions, the ints are the most important thing, but these same people didn't feel that way during bradys mvp season when he set the int record. With brady putting up the best three week yardage totals not just for the first three weeks, but for any three weeks in any season ever, and on pace for morethan four miles of passing, when the record is just under three miles, theres a good chance brady will win another mvp after setting the yardage record, and own the yardage, td, and int records, holding three mvps and 2 superbowl mvps, a 16 win season, and countless other individual and team records. Yet these same people will still try to avoid saying what anyone can clearly see... tom brady is the greatest qb of all time.

Couldn't carry Cam's jock.

 

[sharptongued1]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

How would Montana be without Rice?

Not really a great argument or relevant to the thread at hand, but I'm your huckleberry:Montana won two Super Bowls and was a 3x all-pro quarterback before Rice took the field. Also, his last season in the league being a former shadow of himself he still led a impotent Kansas City offense to the AFCCG.

We seen what Brady can do without Moss.

Now, to volley back, we've also seen what the Patriots offense can do without Brady...

 

[sharptongued1]

If by impressive, you mean biggest surprise, I see this as a race between Newton and Fitzpatrick. Very low expectations coming into the season, and great results thus far ( moreso for Fitz, who is winning games, leading BUF to the top scoring team in the NFL )If by impressive, you mean who's looked the best over these 3 weeks? I probably lean to Rodgers, but Brees and Brady are right there. Brady's INTs yesterday are hard to overlook. OTOH, his offense has looked damn near unstoppable, with most acknowledging that the only way the Pats offense doesn't put up big points is if they stop themselves. Without the INTs yesterday, Brady is running away with this conversation. With them, he slides back to the pack and makes it a discussion again.

I do believe that this thread is/was one big semantics argument. Everyone's going off of their own definition of, "impressive" and arguing the other guy is wrong when the parameters were never clearly defined.