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Which Republican Presidential Candidate Do You Favor for 2024? (1 Viewer)

Which Republican Presidential Candidate Do You Favor for 2024?

  • Trump

    Votes: 5 4.5%

  • DeSantis

    Votes: 26 23.2%

  • Haley

    Votes: 12 10.7%

  • Stefanik

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Klinzinger

    Votes: 12 10.7%

  • I Do Not Favor Any Republican Candidate

    Votes: 41 36.6%

  • I Have No Idea But Plan On Voting Republican

    Votes: 8 7.1%

  • The Candidate Who I Favor is Not Listed (please specify in thread)

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Total voters
    112
In a primary, I'd likely vote for any of Kinzinger, Sasse, Romney, several of the Governors from the NE (if they were ever interested in jumping to Washington....no idea why anyone would want to these days), Larry Hogan potentially, John Kasich, etc.

Instead we are likely to get Trump as the option.  

 
I picked Desantis as I like his chance to win. There’s no option I wouldn’t vote for over whatever the Dems throw out there though, even Trump is a million times better as we are seeing how brutal Biden is. 

 
I have no faith in any of them. I would like to elect a new Congress or basically eliminate all of them. They seem to only work against American sovereignty. Let the people bring bills to vote on instead of corporations writing legislation and congress blindly signing to see what’s in the bill.

 
DeSantis/Scott is the ticket I favor...I'm good with Nikki Haley and Tom Cotton as well...Noem seems to have some phoniness to her, Ted Cruz is brilliant but doesn't have the personality to win a general election, Pence and Pompeo are non-factors...still way too early (to say the least) but Youngkin is off to a great start in Virginia and seems pretty politically savvy so far but 2024 is too early for him even if he does a great job...as for the Romney-types, they have zero chance as you will get the drumbeat from the NY Times-crowd of how they will be formidable but all they do is give no excitement to the base and then get turned into a crazy right-winger by the dems once they become an actual threat so they become an easy one for the dems to beat.

 
Kinzinger?  Why is he on list.   His career is over.   Illinois just gerrymandered  his seat out of existence.

 
I voted a candidate not listed…Gov Hogan. Need someone who was critical of Trump from the get go and remained there. Would have to be someone who supports the 1/6 select committee. But it doesn’t matter, Republicans would never go for that. 

 
I don’t want a Vichy Republican, a Judas Republican, a member of the uniparty to run. Right now besides Donald I like DeSantis but it’s too early .

 
Something outside of the "Trump circle" would be nice.  We need to distance ourselves from him and his style of leadership.

 
Any republican will be better than any Dem they put up.

I think DeSantis is my pick. Now if Tulsi runs as a 3rd party or even as a Dem she has my vote.

 
TripItUp said:
 Which Republican Presidential Candidate Do You Favor for 2024?

The Candidate Who I Favor is Not Listed (please specify in thread)
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I believe Nikki Haley offers the "safest path" to win 2024 against all possible combinations of the likely opposition.  She has no J6 and no COVID19 baggage on her resume. Also my viewpoint is she is the best suited to prepare for  the eventual war with China based on her vast foreign policy experience.

Ron DeSantis has the best functional "narrative" for 2024 out of the existing GOP contenders as long as the pandemic and COVID19 don't create a major spike in the next three years. He also is the most vulnerable to get tanked because it wouldn't be that hard to "black bag" a bunch of deaths in his state for establishment Democrats to create an effective counter narrative to protect Gavin Newsom. The tipping point would strategically be 10 dead children from claims that it happened because they were unvaccinated and operated in a state without mandates. Someone will say that's statistically impossible to happen in three years. I'll say the entire country was left to burn and be looted and terrorized to hold onto the black, Progressive and radical left voting blocks. Anyone who can rationalize that agenda ( i.e. enabling the "American Dream" to burn) won't blink twice about laying children on the altar and cooking that counter narrative. Fortunately, the existing Party apparatus doesn't have anyone in their current ranks who could seal off the back end of that. They could run the operational end but would fail at the spin control.

I've stated before that I would like professional politics and this entire country to just move on from Donald Trump and Joe Biden/The Entire Obama Legacy altogether.

The Conservative candidate I would favor personally and the most is Denzel Washington. I don't believe he would ever run but I believe he would have a transformative effect on this country. And he'd have a practical pathway to victory.

 
I don't know enough about those candidates but would consider one based on my judgment of their fitness for the office. Trump apologists and Covid/science deniers need not apply IMO.

Fiscal conservatism has always appealed to me. The weird social agendas WRT gay/trans, gunz 24/7 and anti-immigrant stuff bugs the #### out of me. 

 
I want anyone other than Trump. I don't care if he's easier to beat or harder or whatever. I just want him to disappear from my life. He's got to geaux!

Beyond that, I don't really care. I suppose once the primaries get going I'll have stronger opinions on the various candidates (and ultimately won't vote for any of them), but for now they're all mostly an undifferentiated blob.

 
The "not listed" candidate I'd prefer/vote for is Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland (I selected the "other" answer choice in the poll). He's shown a knack for navigating Covid in a way that seems to have pretty strong support among his constituents from both parties. That shows me he's able to govern in a more unified manner. 

Frankly I am sick and tired of hearing "the democrat run cities are crapholes!" and "the blue states should be punished" and likewise "the red states are a net-negative to the country's balance sheet!". Enough. The last President governed this way entirely, and all it did was divide the country even more. That style of politics, and even worse that style of governing, is anathema to the principles of the United States, and I for one am sick of it. So I'll be voting for someone who doesn't do that. Therefore DeSantis is a hard no, along with Trump obviously.  

 
Grace Under Pressure said:
The "not listed" candidate I'd prefer/vote for is Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland (I selected the "other" answer choice in the poll). He's shown a knack for navigating Covid in a way that seems to have pretty strong support among his constituents from both parties. That shows me he's able to govern in a more unified manner. 

Frankly I am sick and tired of hearing "the democrat run cities are crapholes!" and "the blue states should be punished" and likewise "the red states are a net-negative to the country's balance sheet!". Enough. The last President governed this way entirely, and all it did was divide the country even more. That style of politics, and even worse that style of governing, is anathema to the principles of the United States, and I for one am sick of it. So I'll be voting for someone who doesn't do that. Therefore DeSantis is a hard no, along with Trump obviously.  
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I agree with everything you've said. We cannot afford another Divider and Chief weather it's a D or an R. I don't agree with your view on DeSantis. How is he like Trump?

 
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Grace Under Pressure said:
The "not listed" candidate I'd prefer/vote for is Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland (I selected the "other" answer choice in the poll). He's shown a knack for navigating Covid in a way that seems to have pretty strong support among his constituents from both parties. That shows me he's able to govern in a more unified manner. ...
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Direct Headline: Who Does Maryland’s Governor Really Work For?

Larry Hogan has more in common with Donald Trump than his reputation suggests...Both are real-estate executives who have refused to relinquish their private businesses while in office. Just as Trump maintained his ownership of the Trump Organization when he became president, Hogan maintained ownership of HOGAN, a multipurpose real-estate brokerage firm, when he became governor. Both have left close family members in charge of their businesses—Trump with his children; Hogan with his brother, Timothy—and created arrangements that allow them to be apprised of the company’s dealings. In other words, they have set up situations in which they can use their powerful government positions to increase their private profits. ..As governor, one of Hogan’s signature policies has been to expand state spending on roads, highways, and bridges at the expense of mass transit. His most controversial policy to date was to cancel the Red Line—a planned $2.9 billion metro rail line through Baltimore, for which the state had already acquired land. In the process, Hogan gave up $900 million in federal aid from the Obama administration. As The Baltimore Sun put it, “Hogan freed up hundred ...of millions of dollars he plans to use to undertake a significant shift in the state’s transportation priorities from public transit to road projects.” Hogan has advanced a number of major state transportation projects that are near properties his company owns, a development that can boost the value of those properties. Before canceling the Red Line, he approved construction of an interchange down the road from a parcel of land his company controlled. Later, he approved millions of dollars in road and sidewalk improvements near property he had bought approximately two years earlier and was turning into a housing development....Hogan’s real-estate business has only grown while he has been in office. In 2014, the year before he became governor, his company had ownership in 30 real-estate limited-liability companies, or LLCs, according to his financial-disclosure forms. Now, he has 43....But Hogan has not revealed payments he has received from specific real-estate transactions while in office. “He’s getting paid by developers all across the state—who he’s in charge of regulating in one way or another—and the public has no idea who they are”...Hogan’s income has far exceeded his official yearly government salary of roughly $180,000. From 2015 to 2018, his first three years as governor, he made a total of roughly $2.4 million, according to his tax returns for those years, which he released during his 2018 reelection campaign. But he has refused to release his returns for the years before he became governor, much like Donald Trump, giving the public no way to compare his earnings before and after he ascended to Annapolis. In addition, the tax returns Hogan has released do not include attached statements detailing the sources of his private income, effectively hiding what entities were paying him. ....The amount he’s made while in office is unprecedented... Hogan has made more money as governor than any other governor in the history of the state— and is the only one to have made millions of dollars while in office....But Hogan’s trust is not blind. The ethics commission granted the governor a “financial-interest exemption,” which allows him to continue to own real-estate projects and to be apprised of his company’s business dealings, as well as how much money he’s making... the arrangement “will not prevent me from requesting or receiving information about the status of the Hogan Companies . . . including the status of its current investments and... the identity of the investors and the locations of real property in which the Hogan Companies have an investment.”.... it was “misleading” to even call the arrangement a trust because Hogan is kept fully apprised of his investments and assets. “He owns it, he will benefit from it, he is not shielded from knowledge of what the holdings are....”

by Eric Cortellessa January 12, 2020

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/01/12/who-does-marylands-governor-really-work-for/

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Larry Hogan would get eaten alive in a general cycle. He's touted by those who would never ever vote for him. He would immediately be attacked by the Progressives and establishment Black America. This would daisy chain the identity politics machine and the activist MSM to chew him up.

The biggest beneficiary of Hogan getting the RNC ticket wouldn't be the American people, it would be Stacey Abrams, who could get some media optics relief from all the dark money dealings she's scooped up and can't hide since she lost her Governor's race.

There's a common theme here - Radical leftists believe the only elected officials whom call themselves true Republicans are those who openly denounce Trump and then are willing to be human political punching bags later for a general cycle. I laugh when I see Mitt Romney's name tossed up in here like he's a ground and pound unit leader for the Rebel Alliance. Romney got torn apart in his general cycle, it's not like if he magically got the ticket that it wouldn't happen again.

Everyone has their free speech. But some zealots clearly just want a human kick ball to present for empty virtue signaling. If you won't vote for them then how powerful are the accolades that you will give them just for not being Trump?

 
quick-hands said:
He is heading to a dem think tank.  Probably his price to join the committee. 

Maybe a kinzinger/Cheney  ticket.   That would attract Democrat dollars.  
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Because Democrats are just dying to support candidates who are for massive defense spending, pro life, lower taxes for wealthy, border wall building, and against the John Lewis voting rights act. The only thing  different Cheney and Kinzinger have from today's mainstream Republican party is they have shown they have integrity and backbone which Democrats greatly appreciate but not enough for them to donate money to them

 
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@gordon gekkoDude, I've voted for a republican governor more times than I've voted for a democrat. I lean left. None of this is virtue signaling for me. I didn't do it to prove a point to you or anybody, that's for sure. Though I'm hoping that writing about it here will allow a few lightbulbs will go on for some of the conservative posters who always seem to make a ton of assumptions about what motivates a left leaning voter. 

The OP was "Which Presidential Candidate do you prefer?" not "Hey Libs, post here who you prefer so GG can write a wall of text explaining why what you've written is not your actual truth." 

Obama was just a better candidate than Hillary.  

Trump is, was and always will be a joke turned nightmare. He's re-framed for many of us center-lefters what we would be willing to accept, in the name of our country. You have no idea how little I want to do with defunding the police and the burned down, looted shops. Cops, please stop killing black people= support. That ####? No thanks. 99% of left leaning voters probably feel this way and yet every time we say how we feel about a dude that tried to (and continues to!) usher in authoritarian rule, we're lumped in with supporting looting and riots.

Please stop assuming that people taking the time to post their opinion are sharing in jest.

Thank you for posting that article about Hogan. 

 
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greenmountaingoat said:
Dude, I've voted for a republican governor more times than I've voted for a democrat. I lean left. None of this is virtue signaling for me. I didn't do it to prove a point to you or anybody, that's for sure. Though I'm hoping that writing about it here will allow a few lightbulbs will go on for some of the conservative posters who always seem to make a ton of assumptions about what motivates a left leaning voter. 

The OP was "Which Presidential Candidate do you prefer?" not "Hey Libs, post here who you prefer so GG can write a wall of text explaining why what you've written is not your actual truth." 

Obama was just a better candidate than Hillary.  

Trump is, was and always will be a joke turned nightmare. He's re-framed for many of us center-lefters what we would be willing to accept, in the name of our country. You have no idea how little I want to do with defunding the police and the burned down, looted shops. Cops, please stop killing black people= support. That ####? No thanks. 99% of left leaning voters probably feel this way and yet every time we say how we feel about a dude that tried to (and continues to!) usher in authoritarian rule, we're lumped in with supporting looting and riots.

Please stop assuming that people taking the time to post their opinion are sharing in jest.

Thank you for posting that article about Hogan. 
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Who are you talking to?

 
TripItUp said:
Wow, DeSantis super popular.   I thought we might see this.  Interesting.  
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I really try to separate my personal feelings about politicians from an objective view of the situation (I'll leave it up to individuals to decide how well they think I do that). And while I strongly dislike DeSantis, if I step back and look at the situation it's hard not to conclude that he's extremely well positioned to win the nomination, and also have a very good shot at the White House ... if he can navigate the Trump minefield. As for what exactly that landscape will look like, and how he'll be able to do it, well, the crystal ball's a little fuzzy.

Also, the political graveyards are littered with the bodies of candidates who looked "great on paper" but ultimately couldn't deliver the goods. DeSantis has a number of strengths, but he also has his weaknesses, none of which have been really highlighted yet. (The main one I've observed is that he appears to be a bit of an introverted weirdo, and I say that as someone who's a bit of an introverted weirdo myself.) If DeSantis runs he'll go through the wringer, just as every candidate must, and he'll either prove himself or he wont 

 
Chris Christie.  because i'm going to put some money on him.  he's an extremely talented politician.  i think he would be an independent voter magnet.

Christie/Haley probably can't lose.  that order because Christie has the penis.

but mainly because he's really obese and i thought that might annoy you.   i kid.   i think you make very good points re:Covid-19/obesity.  repeatedly.

i know he has big challenges to get the nomination, that's why the betting odds are attractive.

i'm almost certain i won't vote.

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
I really try to separate my personal feelings about politicians from an objective view of the situation (I'll leave it up to individuals to decide how well they think I do that). And while I strongly dislike DeSantis, if I step back and look at the situation it's hard not to conclude that he's extremely well positioned to win the nomination, and also have a very good shot at the White House ... if he can navigate the Trump minefield. As for what exactly that landscape will look like, and how he'll be able to do it, well, the crystal ball's a little fuzzy.

Also, the political graveyards are littered with the bodies of candidates who looked "great on paper" but ultimately couldn't deliver the goods. DeSantis has a number of strengths, but he also has his weaknesses, none of which have been really highlighted yet. (The main one I've observed is that he appears to be a bit of an introverted weirdo, and I say that as someone who's a bit of an introverted weirdo myself.) If DeSantis runs he'll go through the wringer, just as every candidate must, and he'll either prove himself or he wont 
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This Breaking Points segment is pretty good. Talks about Trump and DeSantis spat. They seemed convinced there is no way DeSantis is not a dead man walking if he takes on Trump.

I sure hope they are wrong about Trump and his strangle hold on the Republican party. I did not want to have to vote for him again I hate it when I don't have a choice. There is just no way I could vote for any Dem now. Where are all the Eugene Mcarthy's and Scoop Jackson's at?

https://youtu.be/sp447sNSXeY

 
rustycolts said:
This Breaking Points segment is pretty good. Talks about Trump and DeSantis spat. They seemed convinced there is no way DeSantis is not a dead man walking if he takes on Trump.
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I'm tempted to say it will be a fascinating battle if it happens, but that feels a little like telling the residents of Tokyo that Godzilla vs. Mothra would be a fascinating battle. That message might be a hard sell among those who are getting their houses destroyed.

On the one hand, it's hard to see DeSantis possibly winning a grudge match against Trump because even if Trump lost, he would be more than happy to drag DeSantis down with him. Seems like a classic "Even if you win, you lose" scenario. On the other hand, remember how big of a boost Obama got when he took down the Clintons after no one gave him a chance? If DeSantis could pull this off, it would be that times 100. Even liberals would have to give him some grudging respect.

 
The Dude said:
Christie/Cheney
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Christie has put himself in the worst possible position for 2024.

He said he would push to wipe out Obamacare if he ever took POTUS then when it was in his political interests, he took the Medicaid Expansion. That puts him at odds with both sides of the aisle. He's also pro life and he flip flopped on that as well. As a former lobbyists, his dark money ties to wash away the Exxon scandal won't go away on a national stage. The David Samson/United issue where he used his office to create leverage for a fellow crony will also come back to haunt him.

It's going to be Haley, DeSantis or Trump. And The Donald has no platform. He has no post POTUS strategy at work. Ronna McDaniel and RNC HQ wanting to pull out of the general debate cycle only makes this even harder for Trump. I see her strategy and it's the right one. While it's bizarre on it's face, you are just better running out the clock in the first quarter of the game.

The GOP doesn't need to be dynamic here. Trump and Biden have exhausted everyone's will and desire for more drama. Boring and safe is what is going to sell in 2024. Biden and Harris and Trump all consistently walk into unforced errors. Basic Sun Tzu - When your enemies are making a mistake, don't interrupt them.

The larger overall question here is what do DeSantis and Haley have to trade. For Trump, it's a Presidential Pardon. For Ted Cruz, it's the first opening on SCOTUS. If I ran DeSantis's campaign, I'd cut a deal with Dan Crenshaw. Offer him something less than VPOTUS and see if he bites. DeSantis has a military background. While it's not on Crenshaw's level, it helps him dramatically given the Afghanistan disaster. Removing Crenshaw off the board hurts Haley's chances. She needs a military man to split the ticket. Then I'd lay heat on Jared Kushner, which by extension puts heat on Ivanka Trump. The Donald might not cut a deal easily for a pardon for himself, but he would for his daughter. Put her in the legal cross hairs and force him to cut a deal. He runs a "zombie campaign" for short while for the fundraising, then pulls out for "health reasons" which lets him save a little face ( not much, but something) Also for DeSantis, he needs Newsom's COVID19 death toll in CA to spike. This discussion could get quite ugly at this juncture, but I'll leave it there. It's in DeSantis and Newsom both, to have the other get a massive death spike from COVID19 or at least have it perceived that way by 2024.

Stacey Abrams made the first power move and it was predictable but practical. She went after Paul Pelosi via backdoor. By neutralizing Nancy Pelosi via the insider trading issue, by proxy, that creates a massive number of hits to Gavin Newsom's power base. But like Haley, she needs a military man to split the ticket. This is where it gets tricky for her, because she and Harris and Biden all need Pete Buttigieg here. This is the part where Beto O''Rourke is kicking himself for pursuing his failed musician lifestyle instead of enlisting. If he had a military background ( and if he had any common sense ), he'd be in a much better place politically.

Abrams can't beat DeSantis. Nor can she beat Haley. She needs to run against Trump. Then her "I Won" narrative hurts her. Here's the big fundamental problem for the DNC.

1) Jaime Harrison who runs DNC HQ is an imbecile. I wouldn't give him a job working as a cashier at a Hot Dog On A Stick during a full bore Aussie style lockdown. You'll say, but a lockdown would mean no customers, how could you screw up working a register when there are no customers. Harrison would find a way. If your political saavy meter is rock bottom and your locker is across from Jennifer Dillon's, Ron Klain's , Beto O'Rourke's, Jen Psaki's and Susan Rice's, then how far on the fringes have you fallen? We aren't talking practice squad candidate, we are talking XFL emergency list level talent.

2) You can't form a combination of Gavin Newsom and Stacey Abrams and make it fit. Harrison ensures any attempt will have the worst spin possible. You can't have Abrams, a black woman from poverty into the Hero of Georgia running 2nd fiddle to an establishment political Ken doll frat boy archetype raised by the Gettys while the Party apparatus shifts far left into full blown identity politics. And you can't have Abrams at the top of the ticket with her stolen election claims backed by a Governor who suffered the indignity of a recall vote.

What do Bloom, Lammey and Waldman say on their podcast year after year? Just focus on getting into your fantasy playoffs and anything can happen at that point. This situation is like when the 49ers and Cowboys would go to war in the mid 90s and the winner of the NFC Championship Game was going to end up the Super Bowl champion. Ron DeSantis doesn't need to be dynamic. He doesn't need some movie plot style platform or sleight of hand. He just needs to show up and let the Obama/Biden/Harris/Rice regime eat itself. The level of unforced errors here is beyond tragic. Haley or DeSantis just need to win the RNC ticket, that's taking them 90 percent to the finish line there on it's own.

DeSantis is not really an overwhelmingly amazing candidate. That's the truth of the matter. But he doesn't need to be. Barack Obama and his insane push for intersectionality destroyed the Democratic Party long term. The level of damage Obama inflicted on his Party makes you wonder if he's drawing a paycheck from the GOP. Well aside from the 60 million dollar quid pro quo book deal and 400K a pop speaking engagements. DeSantis just needs to be better than Trump ( from a media standpoint, that's not very hard) and more functional than Obama ( very low bar) and not appear to have dementia while sitting in a corner terrified of Corn Pop ( is it that tough to walk up and down a flight of stairs without the Secret Service terrified that you'll fall down and never get back up like Biden?)

DeSantis is the "safe guy" that the sorority party girl nearing the end of her prime is willing to settle on and marry. That's all this is and it happens. The American people have had enough drama. They just want someone who will show up, not cheat, pay the mortgage and fix the broken plumbing on the weekends.

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ignatiusjreilly said:
I want anyone other than Trump. I don't care if he's easier to beat or harder or whatever. I just want him to disappear from my life. He's got to geaux!

Beyond that, I don't really care. I suppose once the primaries get going I'll have stronger opinions on the various candidates (and ultimately won't vote for any of them), but for now they're all mostly an undifferentiated blob.
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So weird. It’s one thing to vote against policy but it’s clear this is based on emotion. Just so wrong IMO. 

You do you though. 

 
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I’m considering not voting at all. Politics is a lot like my Dallas Cowboys; I say I don’t want to get emotionally involved and every year they drag me back in. 
 

Im not sure I want to subject myself to the roller coaster anymore. My state is democratic and it’s not even close so my vote doesn’t matter. 

 
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Steady Mooobin said:
I’m considering not voting at all. Politics is a lot like my Dallas Cowboys; I say I don’t want to get emotionally involved and every year they drag me back in. 
 

Im not sure I want to subject myself to the roller coaster anymore. My state is democratic and it’s not even close so my vote doesn’t matter. 
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The fact we even have this sentiment in our country points to a broken system.  I'm not disagreeing just think it's sad and frustrating.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
The fact we even have this sentiment in our country points to a broken system.  I'm not disagreeing just think it's sad and frustrating.  
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-ETA - what I meant by the “my vote doesn’t matter line was- I could convince 5000 people to vote one direction or another and it won’t even make a dent in the results. Maryland is not gonna vote republican for foreseeable future. 
 

Agreed. It used to be that we could work together. The way it is now- neither side will ever give the other credit for anything. Not good for the country. 
 

We need a true leader. Somebody that is an alpha, a lion who can unit both sides. It takes a very special person to do that. 
 

 
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If I could wave my magic wand - I would want Tulsi Gabbard. I don’t agree with her on everything - but I trust her to do what’s best. 
 

 
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