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Which waiver RB will have the most upside? (1 Viewer)

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If you had to pick one out of these three Waiver wire RB's which one would you stash on your bench?

Edge James, Caddy Williams, or Micheal Bush.

Which one do you see making the biggest impact fantasy wise this season?

 
I voted Caddy because I am pulling for this guy. I think it's a matter of luck, staying healthy, and guys around them under performing. Too early to tell. Make a poll, they are always more exciting.

 
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Cadillac Williams, Michael Bush will be a victim of the team he's on, while James is in a good position to be the complimentary back in Seattle as he nears retirement.

If the wheels are nice and clean on the Cadillac, expect him to get the bulk of the carries.

 
If you had to pick one out of these three Waiver wire RB's which one would you stash on your bench?Edge James, Caddy Williams, or Micheal Bush.Which one do you see making the biggest impact fantasy wise this season?
Which will make the biggest impact? Likely Caddy, because he's the only one of the three that will put up any numbers without injuries striking the other RBs on the roster.Which has the most upside? Michael Bush. The Raiders have an underrated O-line in terms of run blocking, and I think he's the most skilled of the three backs at this stage in their respective careers. If McFadden goes down, Bush will be a monster.
 
If you had to pick one out of these three Waiver wire RB's which one would you stash on your bench?Edge James, Caddy Williams, or Micheal Bush.Which one do you see making the biggest impact fantasy wise this season?
Which will make the biggest impact? Likely Caddy, because he's the only one of the three that will put up any numbers without injuries striking the other RBs on the roster.Which has the most upside? Michael Bush. The Raiders have an underrated O-line in terms of run blocking, and I think he's the most skilled of the three backs at this stage in their respective careers. If McFadden goes down, Bush will be a monster.
I'm with Bush as the answer to both questions. I think TB is a timeshare nightmare and as one with herniated discs of my own, know how hard it will be for him to stay productively healthy all season. The Raiders also have more winnable games (in my opinion) then TB which often correlates to better rushing numbers.Easily see Bush as the most upside and I'm guessing that's the bigger question given you are looking at waiver wire RBs -- you probably already have the low floor covered on your roster, so I'd advise you to go for the high ceiling guy.
 
When you said James I thought you ment James Davis he may be the best sleeper .

But outta the 3 you picked if Caddy stays healthy he will have a nice year.

 
Bro when you're deciding between players it's easy you have to go with who gets the most touches, ESPECIALLY at RB. Why would you pick up James or Bush when you have a starter on the waiver wire? Just like someone said, James or Bush need injuries to occur.

Your'e basically saying what if McFadden or Julius Jones gets hurt. Well what if Derrick Ward gets hurt? Cadillac's carries go from 40% to 80%.

 
Bro when you're deciding between players it's easy you have to go with who gets the most touches, ESPECIALLY at RB. Why would you pick up James or Bush when you have a starter on the waiver wire? Just like someone said, James or Bush need injuries to occur. Your'e basically saying what if McFadden or Julius Jones gets hurt. Well what if Derrick Ward gets hurt? Cadillac's carries go from 40% to 80%.
I'd rather have a good RB in line for 20% of the touches who is an injury away from 60-70% than a bad RB in line for 40% of the touches who is an injury away from 60-70%.
 
I'm trying to decide if I should drop James Davis and pickup Michael Bush. I think this Davis hype is getting out of control and the coaches have no intention of starting Davis unless Lewis breaks down. Bush was listed by his coach as one of the seven playmakers on his team. That speaks volumes to me.

 
Bro when you're deciding between players it's easy you have to go with who gets the most touches, ESPECIALLY at RB. Why would you pick up James or Bush when you have a starter on the waiver wire? Just like someone said, James or Bush need injuries to occur. Your'e basically saying what if McFadden or Julius Jones gets hurt. Well what if Derrick Ward gets hurt? Cadillac's carries go from 40% to 80%.
I'd rather have a good RB in line for 20% of the touches who is an injury away from 60-70% than a bad RB in line for 40% of the touches who is an injury away from 60-70%.
Your Caddy hate is humorous. He's hardly a "bad" RB. He was a top 10 talent and performed well before the injuries started to mount. He actually looked decent this preseason. In fact, I think Caddy looked better than Edge at times.I like Bush's talent and would probably take him over Caddy because I think that will be a better environment for fantasy production, but that's more a statement about Bush than it is Caddy.
 
I like Caddy, if he stays healthy, but he's got more of a timeshare to contend with, IMO.

I've got Michael Bush on a lot of my rosters this year. While I fully expect McFadden to be the starting RB in OAK, I can easily see Michael Bush seeing a lot of time in the backfield, as well. Even if McFadden is healthy all season.

I believe there are some correlating factors between New Orleans and Oakland and how they'll use their RB's. If you look at the projected workload distribution between Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas, I think you can see something similar, albeit in a much less powerful offence in Oakland. McFadden will see more carries than Reggie Bush, but he will also be used in the slot and in the same backfield as Michael Bush, giving them both value. Defences will have to key on McFadden in space, which could open things up for Bush coming out of the backfield.

I can see Michael Bush getting 150+ carries and catching 20+ balls with McFadden healthy. If McFadden gets dinged up, Bush's value increases exponentially.

 
corpcow said:
Your Caddy hate is humorous. He's hardly a "bad" RB. He was a top 10 talent and performed well before the injuries started to mount. He actually looked decent this preseason. In fact, I think Caddy looked better than Edge at times.
Again, that's where the disconnect starts. You think that Caddy was a top 10 talent before the injuries started to mount. I never thought he was in the first place, and I could probably dig up posts from the summer after his rookie year backing that up if you think that's just revisionist history on my part. So... not a top 10 talent to begin with... and then the injuries started to mount. He's already got a herniated disc, which is a degenerative condition. That's never going to get better, only worse. He's also got various other major injuries that have potentially robbed him of his speed and agility (including torn patellars in both knees over the last two years). Best case scenario is *IF* he's fully recovered from all those other injuries, and *IF* his herniated disc doesn't get any worse, and *IF* he manages to stay healthy for once in his football career, then he might get back to his prior (not top 10) levels. Of course, even then he's not ever going to be anything close to a 3-down back regardless of what injuries happen around him, because he's a brutal blocker (which gets back to those herniated discs again).As for looking better than Edge at times... that's called damning with faint praise. Edgerrin James lost his job to Tim Hightower (he of the sub-3.0 ypc). Edgerrin James sat on the street forever this offseason without a single suitor. Edgerrin James only has a job because Julius Jones is the worst starting RB in the NFL.

One last reminder, too.

2001- season ended by broken collarbone

2002- season ended by broken fibula

2005- ankle and arch injuries

2006- (can't find the details of what injuries were nagging him this season)

2007- torn right patellar

2008- torn left patellar

The perception of Cadillac Williams' entire career is really entirely based on one run (a 71 yarder late in his first game). Take away that one run and Cadillac never gets the "first rookie to rush for 100 in his first three games" hype. Cadillac never tops 4.0 ypc in any season of his career. It's possible he doesn't get the RoY award, although no slam dunk, because that was a HISTORICALLY bad season for offensive rookies. The entire engine of the Caddy Hype Train is one measly little run.

 
I'd say...

Bush

Caddy

Edge

If Caddy weren't such an injury risk I'd say him but it's not if he gets hurt, it's when. I hope the guy does well but even if by some miracle he stays healthy Ward/Graham will likely take a nice bite of the action while McFadden has proven nothing at the NFL level and may end up more like a Reggie Bush type back and Fargas is average at best.

 
Caddy was just announced as the starter in TB. While I realize all three backs will share carries, so will Bush in Oakland. And there should be some benefit to being the starter.

And I don't think Edge has that much left -- even if Julius Jones is his main competition.

So, as I see it:

1. Caddy

2. M. Bush

3. Edge

 
Deuce said:
I'm trying to decide if I should drop James Davis and pickup Michael Bush. I think this Davis hype is getting out of control and the coaches have no intention of starting Davis unless Lewis breaks down. Bush was listed by his coach as one of the seven playmakers on his team. That speaks volumes to me.
I think that the "hype" with Davis is in where you took him. If you picked him up in late rounds or off the WW then it's still a value pick/gamble. If you bought after the train left the station and picked him early (before other known talent) - different story. That said, if McFadden were to go out - Bush becomes very In.
 
I like Caddy, if he stays healthy, but he's got more of a timeshare to contend with, IMO.

I've got Michael Bush on a lot of my rosters this year. While I fully expect McFadden to be the starting RB in OAK, I can easily see Michael Bush seeing a lot of time in the backfield, as well. Even if McFadden is healthy all season.

I believe there are some correlating factors between New Orleans and Oakland and how they'll use their RB's. If you look at the projected workload distribution between Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas, I think you can see something similar, albeit in a much less powerful offence in Oakland. McFadden will see more carries than Reggie Bush, but he will also be used in the slot and in the same backfield as Michael Bush, giving them both value. Defences will have to key on McFadden in space, which could open things up for Bush coming out of the backfield.

I can see Michael Bush getting 150+ carries and catching 20+ balls with McFadden healthy. If McFadden gets dinged up, Bush's value increases exponentially.
This makes a lot of sense based on the likely distribution between the 3 Raider RB's. Any combination of Fargas remaining hurt and McFadden being used more in different positions in the offense offers even more opportunity for M. Bush. I like his chances at 1000 combined yards and 5-6 TD's, which would place him around RB28-32 in FBG scoring based on 2008 numbers. Great upside considering he was likely a late round flier or $1 player at auction.
 

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