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Which WR 2's & WR 3's have the best opportunity... (1 Viewer)

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Just whose play-to-pay ratio will be the hot topic by season's end?

Whatever type of offensive situation they may be in (new coach, more experienced, or team upgrades), there are players who are in unique postions, given their talent and opportunity, to have tremendous upside this year.

Who's that later round flyer your gonna bank on and why?

 
So... these guys I'm gonna say here all have issues, and all I'm saying is if they get past those, they will be great. First, Drew Bennett (not WR2 but whatever). He was supposed to be great last year, but was injured for five games and still put up respectable numbers. If he can stay healthy, and hook up with Billy like he did two years ago, he could be a surprise top 10 or maybe 5 receiver. Matt Jones: currently practicing in the X (Jimmy's old spot) and Wilford actually practicing behind Reggie Williams opposite, he could be the go to guy and catch 80+ and 6 tds. Robert Ferguson, not well known WR2 on the Packers, was injured last year and was a prime target while playing. Again, if he can stay healthy, he could catch a huge amount of passes, as Favre had 607 att. last year and could have almost as many this time around. There are a lot of possibilities, but it pretty much comes down to which guys stay healthy and which WR1s you think are most likely to get hurt.

 
Corey Bradford

Rob Ferguson

Joe Jurivicous - whose #1 until Braylon is heathly

Sammie Parker

Amani Toomer

Most of thse guys can be had very late and their stats will be alot better than projected.

 
I like Rod Gardner more than Ferguson in Green Bay. I just think he's better. Whichever of these guys is the starter in GB heading into the season is a good candidate.

I don't like Samie Parker much, he hasn't shown much yet. I love Matt Jones, think he'll be easily in the top 20. Drew Bennett is going to be hit or miss. Who is starting opposite Chambers?

Also Nate Burleson will put up some nice numbers in Seattle.

 
Hmmm

Mark Clayton

Eric Moulds

Keyshawn Johnson

Mike Clayton
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these guys are not late round fliers.
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No, but the initial thread title asked for #2 and #3 receivers-- Michael Clayton Looking to Rebound --

Tue Jun 20, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com

The Orlando Sentinel reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR Michael Clayton, who was plagued by injuries in 2005, plans to return to his rookie form. Clayton had to deal with a bum knee, banged-up shoulder, and a bad toe during the 2005 season. A year after setting franchise rookie records with 80 catches for 1,093 yards and seven touchdowns, Clayton had 32 receptions for 372 yards and no touchdowns in 2005. Clayton is committed to bounce back. Assuming speedy WR Joey Galloway can have another injury-free season, the Bucs should be even more dangerous and diverse with a return to form by Clayton. "This passing game is set up to a large degree around the flanker," HC Jon Gruden said of his West Coast offensive scheme that works on rhythm and timing. "You've got to be in peak-performance shape. You've got to be on the details. So we need to get WR Mike Clayton back to what we think will be a Pro Bowl player." Tampa Bay was 25th in the league in passing last season despite a career year from Galloway (83 catches, 1,287 yards, 10 TDs). Clayton started 10 games and played in 14, but injuries cost him repetitions in practice. In Gruden's offense, if a player isn't getting reps, he's not going to be a big part of the game plan. "He was hurting -- we all knew that -- but he never once complained about it. That just made me respect him even more," QB Chris Simms said. :football:

 
I like Rod Gardner more than Ferguson in Green Bay.  I just think he's better.  Whichever of these guys is the starter in GB heading into the season is a good candidate.

I don't like Samie Parker much, he hasn't shown much yet.  I love Matt Jones, think he'll be easily in the top 20.  Drew Bennett is going to be hit or miss.  Who is starting opposite Chambers? 

Also Nate Burleson will put up some nice numbers in Seattle.
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Booker in Miamiherm edwards will probably hurt sammie p's game

i dont think that gardenr will amount to much in GB. True fergy hasn't been lighting it up either.

Everyone always forgets about Engram in Seattle too.

 
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Hmmm

Mark Clayton

Eric Moulds

Keyshawn Johnson

Mike Clayton
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these guys are not late round fliers.
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No, but the initial thread title asked for #2 and #3 receivers-- Michael Clayton Looking to Rebound --

Tue Jun 20, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com

The Orlando Sentinel reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR Michael Clayton, who was plagued by injuries in 2005, plans to return to his rookie form. Clayton had to deal with a bum knee, banged-up shoulder, and a bad toe during the 2005 season. A year after setting franchise rookie records with 80 catches for 1,093 yards and seven touchdowns, Clayton had 32 receptions for 372 yards and no touchdowns in 2005. Clayton is committed to bounce back. Assuming speedy WR Joey Galloway can have another injury-free season, the Bucs should be even more dangerous and diverse with a return to form by Clayton. "This passing game is set up to a large degree around the flanker," HC Jon Gruden said of his West Coast offensive scheme that works on rhythm and timing. "You've got to be in peak-performance shape. You've got to be on the details. So we need to get WR Mike Clayton back to what we think will be a Pro Bowl player." Tampa Bay was 25th in the league in passing last season despite a career year from Galloway (83 catches, 1,287 yards, 10 TDs). Clayton started 10 games and played in 14, but injuries cost him repetitions in practice. In Gruden's offense, if a player isn't getting reps, he's not going to be a big part of the game plan. "He was hurting -- we all knew that -- but he never once complained about it. That just made me respect him even more," QB Chris Simms said. :football:
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yep but you have to spend earlier picks on the clayton brothers and Im not so sure that they will live up to, or defy their projections. Which is in the title as well.
 
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Hmmm

Mark Clayton

Eric Moulds

Keyshawn Johnson

Mike Clayton
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these guys are not late round fliers.
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No, but the initial thread title asked for #2 and #3 receivers-- Michael Clayton Looking to Rebound --

Tue Jun 20, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com

The Orlando Sentinel reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR Michael Clayton, who was plagued by injuries in 2005, plans to return to his rookie form. Clayton had to deal with a bum knee, banged-up shoulder, and a bad toe during the 2005 season. A year after setting franchise rookie records with 80 catches for 1,093 yards and seven touchdowns, Clayton had 32 receptions for 372 yards and no touchdowns in 2005. Clayton is committed to bounce back. Assuming speedy WR Joey Galloway can have another injury-free season, the Bucs should be even more dangerous and diverse with a return to form by Clayton. "This passing game is set up to a large degree around the flanker," HC Jon Gruden said of his West Coast offensive scheme that works on rhythm and timing. "You've got to be in peak-performance shape. You've got to be on the details. So we need to get WR Mike Clayton back to what we think will be a Pro Bowl player." Tampa Bay was 25th in the league in passing last season despite a career year from Galloway (83 catches, 1,287 yards, 10 TDs). Clayton started 10 games and played in 14, but injuries cost him repetitions in practice. In Gruden's offense, if a player isn't getting reps, he's not going to be a big part of the game plan. "He was hurting -- we all knew that -- but he never once complained about it. That just made me respect him even more," QB Chris Simms said. :football:
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yep but you have to spend earlier picks on the clayton brothers and Im not so sure that they will live up to, or defy their projections. Which is in the title as well.
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If you go by the projections in the Michael Clayton thread, I think he'll easily surpass those so he still fits the criteria. It really depends on whose projections you're using.
 
I think this is who you were looking for: DREW CARTER

1) Mid-Late Round pick? Check

2) #3 WR? Check

3) Opportunity to surprise? Check

From the Blogger:

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June 9, 2006, 10:32

Panthers :: WR

Can WR Carter Be The X-Factor?

Charlotte Observer - [Full Article]

Carolina Panthers backup WR Drew Carter could end up the biggest surprise in 2006 for the Panthers. He excelled at the end of last year, proving he has the speed to be a deep threat for the Panthers. That's especially helpful considering that defenses will likely focus their attention on Carolina's dynamic duo of WR Steve Smith and WR Keyshawn Johnson.

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I see Michael Clayton having a fantastic year.

What worries me is that he's so passionate about his downfield run-blocking, that the amount of touches gruden has planned for Cadillac increases his chances of aggravating that shoulder injury.

Other than that, I think his rebound combined with his low ADP makes him a sneaky play for top-10 WR who's base value is solid WR2, where he's currently being drafted.

Another guy that grabs my eye is Andre Johnson. He's currently being drafted as a WR1/2 tweener, and he reeks of top-10 potential.

I think the real question here would be to analyze a high-low study compared to ADP.

 
Mine would be:

Reggie Williams

Arnez Battle

Roddy White

Micheal Bradley

Patrick Crayton

Drew Carter

Travis Taylor

E.Wilford

E.Moulds....(it hink he have a way better year than most probaly think)

To name a few...most of them can be had late from the 10th rnd on

 
With Drew Bennett's injury history, any of TEN's receivers could step into production.

If Chris Henry goes, I have to think Antonio Chatman will do better than 23-285-2 for CIN as a #3.

Arnaz Battle will only be helped by the arrival of Antonio Bryant, but will he stay healthy?

And Mark Clayton finally has a QB to throw the ball where he'll be... DEEP!

Also like Corey Bradford in a Martz system.

Reche Caldwell is a little intriguing as well.

Drew Carter could take the cake, if he can get the looks, though.

:2cents:

 
"This passing game is set up to a large degree around the flanker," HC Jon Gruden said. "So we need to get WR Mike Clayton back to what we think will be a Pro Bowl player."
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Did Gruden actually say "WR Mike Clayton"? :lmao: I've never heard Dungy say, "QB Peyton Manning" or Holmgren say "RB Shaun Alexander"

 
Who is #2 and #3 in Detroit right now?
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Right now. Corey Bradford and Mike Furrey
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Maybe, although Vines or Drummond could be the #3
-- Lions Down on Mike Williams; Roy Williams & Drummond Impress --

Thu Jun 8, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com

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NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports the Lions are as down on former first-round draft pick WR Mike Williams as their fans have been on the franchise in recent seasons. Williams is running with Detroit's third group of wide receivers -- and there are no indications he is going to be moving up the Detroit depth chart anytime soon, even though the receiver was back at practice today. The Lions have made the decision that, until Williams demonstrates a noticeable change in his behavior -- and few in the organization are expecting anything to be any different any time soon -- he will not be contributing to the franchise. While the rest of the Lions franchise has taken to new HC Rod Marinelli's demanding methods, Williams has not. Lions officials believe Williams has not worked hard, has not been accountable, has not carried himself the way a first-round pick or any NFL player should. The team even has looked into the cost of ridding itself of Williams, but realized it cannot. If the Lions were to cut or trade Williams, they would be hit with a whopping $12 million salary-cap charge. This means the Lions are stuck with Williams, who has been nursing a strained hamstring for the past two months. These types of struggles are nothing new for Williams in Detroit. Last year, he was fined for being overweight and late to meetings. Unless Williams changes his attitude, his name will be expected to pop up often on the inactive list this season. It's rather ironic, too. For one year, after he left USC, Williams was the man without a team. Now that he has a team, the team is willing to move forward without him. WR Roy Williams and WR Eddie Drummond have wowed the organization. Roy Williams has grasped the Lions offense quickly, and has demonstrated the speed and strength that has left Detroit's new coaches in awe. Drummond also has impressed his coaches enough to take over some of Mike Williams' playing time. The Lions have options at receiver. But right now, Mike Williams is not one.
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I wonder what a busted BMW is worth anyway? ;)
 
Who is #2 and #3 in Detroit right now?
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Right now. Corey Bradford and Mike Furrey
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Maybe, although Vines or Drummond could be the #3
      -- Lions Down on Mike Williams; Roy Williams & Drummond Impress --

      Thu Jun 8, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com

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      NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports the Lions are as down on former first-round draft pick WR Mike Williams as their fans have been on the franchise in recent seasons. Williams is running with Detroit's third group of wide receivers -- and there are no indications he is going to be moving up the Detroit depth chart anytime soon, even though the receiver was back at practice today. The Lions have made the decision that, until Williams demonstrates a noticeable change in his behavior -- and few in the organization are expecting anything to be any different any time soon -- he will not be contributing to the franchise. While the rest of the Lions franchise has taken to new HC Rod Marinelli's demanding methods, Williams has not. Lions officials believe Williams has not worked hard, has not been accountable, has not carried himself the way a first-round pick or any NFL player should. The team even has looked into the cost of ridding itself of Williams, but realized it cannot. If the Lions were to cut or trade Williams, they would be hit with a whopping $12 million salary-cap charge. This means the Lions are stuck with Williams, who has been nursing a strained hamstring for the past two months. These types of struggles are nothing new for Williams in Detroit. Last year, he was fined for being overweight and late to meetings. Unless Williams changes his attitude, his name will be expected to pop up often on the inactive list this season. It's rather ironic, too. For one year, after he left USC, Williams was the man without a team. Now that he has a team, the team is willing to move forward without him. WR Roy Williams and WR Eddie Drummond have wowed the organization. Roy Williams has grasped the Lions offense quickly, and has demonstrated the speed and strength that has left Detroit's new coaches in awe. Drummond also has impressed his coaches enough to take over some of Mike Williams' playing time. The Lions have options at receiver. But right now, Mike Williams is not one.
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I wonder what a busted BMW is worth anyway? ;)
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Could be, right now WR3 is too early to call. I know that Martz envisions Furrey in Az-Hakim's old role in STL. Which most of the time is the WR3.
 
Terry Glenn.

Some dropping his projections because of T.O. addition. Maybe that should be tempered ...Glenn isn't Cedric Wilson or Todd Pinkston.

See Buffalo and Peerless Price as Bledsoes #2 WR.

T.O. will draw just as much attention as Moulds did and Glenn is more talented than Price. Drew can check both WRs and with his comfort zone with Glenn he will. Remember Witten complaining how much Drew looked at Terry.

Terry to Jerry...

similar situation of a #1 type WR talent playing at #2 (because of a Superstar #1 WR on same team) in Oakland. Not sure Brooks will get him as good of numbers as Bledsoe will Glenn....but I don't think last year is the measuring stick for the Moss/Porter combo as By time Porter got Healthy Moss was gimpy....these 2 remain healthy during a season and they could both put up numbers. Porter could put up 10 TDs as a number 2...he did put up 9 as a #3 before.

 
Oh and Another reason Terry and Jerry are being under rated (I got them with picks #90 and #92...Average draft position on FBGuys site has Glenn at WR35 going at pick 104...Porter at WR 29 going at pick 90) is that Terry faces Eagles week 16 who will be focused on containing T.O. despite fact they couldn't cover Glenn last year as Terry had 3 TDs against them. And Jerry gets St Louis and KC both at home in playoff weeks 15 and 16...doesn't get much better than that. Heck if your playoffs start week 13-16 such as WCOFF you better think Raider WRS. Houston @ Cincy St Louis and KC those 4 weeks. Moss going at #22 and Porter at #90 facing those 4 defenses in Money Time. Heck Grab Gabriel with a very late pick (he isn't even being drafted according to ADP) just in case Porter or Moss are injured during weeks 13 to 16.

 
Mark Clayton

Brandon Stokely -- remember him?

Robert Ferguson

Ernest Wilford -- #3 now, will be #1 in receptions in Jax before year is out

Troy Williamson / KRob --- place your bets

Call me crazy, but

Chris Henry

 
Brandon Stokely -- remember him?
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this is who i was going to say. no true RB1. Peyton may have to take the team on his shoulders again. as a WR3 he could put up 800/6. if either wayne or harrison get dinged up for any significant time, cash money would be the word youre looking for
 
Darrius Watts from Denver, Javon Walker might take some time to get over his injury adn figure out the Bronco system, and Lelie is probably out, so Watts might get a #2 spot for the first four or five games, he has been fantastic this off season. the history on him is he makes the highlight catches but can't catch the easy ones. he has been working hard in the offseason to correct that. should be huge value as a #3 WR

 
Darrius Watts from Denver, Javon Walker might take some time to get over his injury adn figure out the Bronco system, and Lelie is probably out, so Watts might get a #2 spot for the first four or five games, he has been fantastic this off season. the history on him is he makes the highlight catches but can't catch the easy ones. he has been working hard in the offseason to correct that. should be huge value as a #3 WR
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Why would Lelie be out? Are you assuming he won't show up for training camp?
 
he is going to pull a Galloway and sit ou the first 10 games if he is not traded. It doesn't seem to be a ploy. it does not look good for him to ever play in Denver again

 
Darrius Watts from Denver, Javon Walker might take some time to get over his injury adn figure out the Bronco system, and Lelie is probably out, so Watts might get a #2 spot for the first four or five games, he has been fantastic this off season. the history on him is he makes the highlight catches but can't catch the easy ones. he has been working hard in the offseason to correct that. should be huge value as a #3 WR
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he is going to pull a Galloway and sit ou the first 10 games if he is not traded. It doesn't seem to be a ploy. it does not look good for him to ever play in Denver again
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The best I see Watts doing, even if Lelie is gone, is WR3... and historically, WR3 has had NO value in Denver. Also, I feel like Lelie has no bargaining power. There's a slight difference between the Lelie situation and the Galloway situation.

The season before he sat, Galloway was 65/1047/10. Last season, Lelie was 42/770/1. At the time, Galloway's season lows were 57 catches, 987 yards, and 7 TDs. At the moment, Lelie's season HIGHS were 54 catches, 1084 yards, and 7 TDs. Galloway had led the Seahawks in yards and TDs in all 4 of his seasons, and in receptions during 3 of the 4, and was considered a clear #1 WR. Ashley Lelie has never led the Broncos in receptions, yards, OR TDs... and is only considered a #1 WR by his agent and his mom. Galloway could afford to not play. Lelie NEEDS to play to convince any potential buyers that, not only is he not an underachiever, he's also not a malcontent and he doesn't have poor work ethic. That would be the kiss of death for Lelie, and would cost him DRASTICALLY on his next contract. And I think Lelie and his agent are smart enough to know this. If he doesn't get traded, I expect him to play.

 
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