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Which young TE would you target? (1 Viewer)
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-OZ-
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Not to nitpick, but Davis and KW2 usually go well before the rest here.Your question is which to target, not which to take first, so my answer is Greg Olsen. (I voted before thinking this through.) He goes below the rest, but in Chicago, where Clark was a top 10 last year, he can be a top 5 TE which you can draft below the top 12.
ETA: or is it? The poll and the title aren't the same question.
I want Davis on my roster, but won't take him as high as he's going.
Olsen is a good value.
Troupe is the best value.
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lions327
Footballguy
I am big on Cooley this year. He started terrible last year and still have a solid year, especially after Campbell replaced Brunell. But I can't put him or anyone in this list ahead of Vernon Davis. He is going to be a beast of a TE.
Yitbos69
Footballguy
In my last Dynasty Draft Davis went 6.11 and Cooley went 8.05. For me Cooley at 8.05 is much better value than Davis at 6.11.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Miller will blow is ADP out of the water barring any type of injury
erymer
Footballguy
for me it's between Cooley and Miller. I chose Miller for a couple reasons. No injury history, no mental issues like Winslow, had an ok year but should perform better with a healthy Big Ben. I am pretty high on Cooley too, Campbell will be happy to have a dump off guy with the skills of Cooley. I think you would be happy with either one.
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
You forgot Zach Miller. He is paired with a dynamic young QB in JaMarcus Russell. I like his long term upside more than a couple of guys you mentioned.
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Witten is probably undervalued. He came on strong last year with Romo. Cooley is usually pretty cheap too. KW2 is overrated IMO. He goes way too high. Granted, he looked good last year, but knee work for the second time, and just the fact that he is probably too stupid to live much longer has to be a deterrent to drafting him.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
I would certainly prefer Davis, but Witten probably represents the best value considering ADP.
erymer
Footballguy
I think Witten would be a solid choice as well. Especially since Dallas did not really address the WR position via free agency or the draft.
identikit
Footballguy
erymer
Footballguy
yes a converted QB playing WR. do you honestly believe he is going to come in and provide an immediate impact? I know he is talented, but it will take some time for him to develop as a WR. Even if he comes into camp and sets the world on fire, he would only be the 4th option at best behind Owens, Glenn, and Witten. The kid has great skills, but I think it will take some time to develop leaving Witten still as a great receiving option for The Boys. Stanback has great potential, but we all know it takes time for a conversion like this.
identikit
Footballguy
The topic is concerning dynasty values, not just 2007 values. In an extremely rich WR draft, Stanback was Dallas' only pick for that position. That, when coupled with 2 old starting WR's and their non-involvement with free agent WR's, tells me they think very highly of him. Cowboys did fairly well with Crayton's transition and Stanback is, IMO, extremely more talented than him.
Reminds me somewhat of Hines Ward.
Yes it'll take time to adjust. But I'm betting not as long as some might think.
Id
PS sorry about the hijack
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erymer
Footballguy
yeah I am anxious to see how it all shakes out in Dallas. Hopefully it will be more like Hines ward than Brad smith or some others who have tried this lately. If I remember right though, Hines only played QB for one season at Georgia though. Either way it's a good topic for conversation though. And sorry for the Hijack as well Jayman. this might be a good topic for another thread. Back to the TE talk.
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erymer
Footballguy
erymer
Footballguy
all young QB's would love an option like that.
-OZ-
Footballguy
When I look for sleeper TEs, this is one thing I look for.A process:Step 1, list the developing QBs and their TE:Losman: Royal? Quinn: KW2Romo: WittenSchaub: Owen DanielsVY: Troupe/ScaifeCutler: SchefflerRivers: Gates Croyle: Gonzo Smith: DavisLeinart: Patrick? TJackson: Kleinsasser?Rex: OlsenCampbell: CooleyStep 2, take out those with other "safety valves or TEs who are not sleepers:Losman: Royal? Schaub: Owen DanielsVY: Troupe/ScaifeCutler: SchefflerTJackson: Kleinsasser?Rex: OlsenCampbell: CooleyStep 3, evaluate their role in the offense, and attempt to rank:Campbell: CooleyCutler: SchefflerVY: Troupe/ScaifeSchaub: Owen DanielsRex: OlsenTJackson: Kleinsasser?Losman: Royal? Step 4, compare to ADPCampbell: Cooley: TE7Cutler: Scheffler: TE15 VY: Troupe/Scaife: TE17/TE26Rex: Olsen: TE21Schaub: Owen Daniels: TE16TJackson: Kleinsasser?Losman: Royal? I'll probably target Troupe/Scaife and Olsen.all young QB's would love an option like that.
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Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
I like LJ Smith ........ PHI WR corp isn't the top of the league you know ............
NorrisB
Footballguy
One more for Troupe
redman
Footballguy
, and I'm a 'Skins fan who loves Cooley. Davis is simply a physical freak at TE who figures to be featured in that passing offense much the same way that Gonzo has been in KC as the best receiver on the team. KWII I'd also rank ahead of Cooley, though his injuries concern me from a longevity standpoint.
msommer
Footballguy
Romo is not a developing QB?
What is he then
nygiants56
Footballguy
I'm surprised Ben Watson is even on this list. Moss,Stallworth,Welker, Maroney. All goods-hands people.
What Watson did last season, was mainly due to the fact that he was the ONLY pass catching option for Brady.
no way he approaches those numbers again this year, with Moss, Stallworth, Welker on the field at the same time.
Zach Miller might be the next Todd Heap. Greg Knapp is the OC in Oakland, and he absolutely LOVED to throw to the TE , when he was the OC with the Falcons. Plenty of of looks and TDs for Crumpler over the years..
The fact that the Raiders took him in the second round indicates they plan on him becoming a major part of the offense , going forward.
What Watson did last season, was mainly due to the fact that he was the ONLY pass catching option for Brady.
no way he approaches those numbers again this year, with Moss, Stallworth, Welker on the field at the same time.
Zach Miller might be the next Todd Heap. Greg Knapp is the OC in Oakland, and he absolutely LOVED to throw to the TE , when he was the OC with the Falcons. Plenty of of looks and TDs for Crumpler over the years..
The fact that the Raiders took him in the second round indicates they plan on him becoming a major part of the offense , going forward.
msommer
Footballguy
Ask OZ - like I did...
-OZ-
Footballguy
Shhh... You think I'm giving away all my secrets?
Honestly, forgot. 
There, editted to include him, but I don't think I can call Witten a sleeper. He's pretty well known.A value, but not a sleeper.
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crnerblitz
Footballguy
I voted Cooley. I took him with my 7th round pick in MOX HP-6. He was a goot value there.
I been pretty down on Witten the last few years. I am starting to turn the corner on him though. Romomania should boost Wittens stock to make him a real value at his current ADP.
Oh, he has to step up though.
I just hit for the cycle.
I been pretty down on Witten the last few years. I am starting to turn the corner on him though. Romomania should boost Wittens stock to make him a real value at his current ADP.
Oh, he has to step up though.
I just hit for the cycle.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Not a bad process - but it is Shiancoe in MIN.When I look for sleeper TEs, this is one thing I look for.A process:Step 1, list the developing QBs and their TE:Losman: Royal? Quinn: KW2Romo: WittenSchaub: Owen DanielsVY: Troupe/ScaifeCutler: SchefflerRivers: Gates Croyle: Gonzo Smith: DavisLeinart: Patrick? TJackson: Kleinsasser?Rex: OlsenCampbell: CooleyStep 2, take out those with other "safety valves or TEs who are not sleepers:Losman: Royal? Schaub: Owen DanielsVY: Troupe/ScaifeCutler: SchefflerTJackson: Kleinsasser?Rex: OlsenCampbell: CooleyStep 3, evaluate their role in the offense, and attempt to rank:Campbell: CooleyCutler: SchefflerVY: Troupe/ScaifeSchaub: Owen DanielsRex: OlsenTJackson: Kleinsasser?Losman: Royal? Step 4, compare to ADPCampbell: Cooley: TE7Cutler: Scheffler: TE15 VY: Troupe/Scaife: TE17/TE26Rex: Olsen: TE21Schaub: Owen Daniels: TE16TJackson: Kleinsasser?Losman: Royal? I'll probably target Troupe/Scaife and Olsen.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Guess who I voted for...........
