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Encyclopedia Brown said:
Power Monster said:
'Motivational said:
Power Monster said:
Ouch- I see that we need a stud leadoff hitter speedster on this team. It is the missing piece.
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lofton? cheap and still decent
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I like that idea as long as he does not disrupt the chemistry (at home that is)
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Why did you guys get rid of Podsednik?
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Hurt too much. Missed about 25-30 games in 2006 and he played through some injuries that really hindered his overall numbers. In 2007 he missed most of the season.There's no way they could have gone into the season depending on him to be part of this team let alone a starter.
 
####### ridiculous.

looks like their "offensive spurt" was only temporary.

make some ####### changes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Limp Ditka said:
Encyclopedia Brown said:
Power Monster said:
'Motivational said:
Power Monster said:
Ouch- I see that we need a stud leadoff hitter speedster on this team. It is the missing piece.
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lofton? cheap and still decent
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I like that idea as long as he does not disrupt the chemistry (at home that is)
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Why did you guys get rid of Podsednik?
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Hurt too much. Missed about 25-30 games in 2006 and he played through some injuries that really hindered his overall numbers. In 2007 he missed most of the season.There's no way they could have gone into the season depending on him to be part of this team let alone a starter.
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Also one of the worst defensive outfielders I have ever seen. For a fast guy he was very Kingmanesque in the OF.
 
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I have been wondering about the possibility of Fields playing some first and spelling Crede. Or Crede playing a little first to rest his back. But man I love Crede's glove at 3rd.

 
Green94 said:
Wrigley said:
Pauly to the DLAbout time.
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Who got the call?
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DeWayne Wise per White Sox.comPrior to tonight's game vs. Pittsburgh, the Chicago White Sox placed first baseman Paul Konerko on the 15-day disabled list (retroactive to June 15) with a Grade 1 strain of his left oblique muscle and purchased the contract of outfielder DeWayne Wise from Class AAA Charlotte. Konerko, 32, suffered the injury prior to Sunday's game vs. Colorado. He is batting .215 (49-228) with eight home runs and 30 RBI in 62 games this season. It is Konerko's first career trip to the disabled list. Wise, 30, was hitting .319 (61-191) with nine home runs, 23 RBI, 39 runs scored and 15 stolen bases in 55 games with Charlotte this season. He ranks among the International League leaders in on-base percentage (4th, .402), on-base plus slugging percentage (5th, .967), batting average (T5th) and slugging percentage (7th, .565).
 
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I am guessing and hoping Swisher will see most of the 1b work with Anderson in Cf and Wise backup OF.

But with Ozzies love of Uribe we might see The Missile in CF and more Uribe.

 
I agree to keeping Ramirez in the lineup but prefer him at 2nd for now.

I am warming up to Cabrera both offensively and defensively after not really caring for him early on especially on the D side with all the accolades coming in. His O was horrible starting the season as well but that is coming around nicely.

It would be nice to keep him and Ramirez for next year rather than move Ramirez to SS with Richar or Uribe at 2nd.

Wise starting in his first game back over Anderson surprised me a bit. I am guessing pitching matchups is why. Wise hit 2 for 5 tonight but I hope Anderson get's the majority of extra playing time while Konerko is out to see exactly how far he has matured and what kind of resonable offensive production could be expected if he regains everyday status in the future.

This up and down roller coaster season so far is leaving me a little less than thrilled. While the highs are really nice the lulls are lasting a bit too long for my liking.

Hopefully we are just working out the kinks and will roll smoother in the 2nd half. I guess with close to half a new starting everyday lineup from last year growing pains are to be expected.

 
It is all or nothing with this offense. This team is it's own worse enemy. Loads of talent to be dropping 2-3 to Colorado @ home. It is just silly the way runners steal on the Sox. Also- what is with all the errors?

 
Bluesbomber said:
I have been wondering about the possibility of Fields playing some first and spelling Crede. Or Crede playing a little first to rest his back. But man I love Crede's glove at 3rd.
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If Crede wanted a reasonable contract/didn't have Boras as an agent, this move would be a no brainer due to Fields' lack of ability with the glove, imo. With Konerko on the wrong side of 30, the Sox have a perfect opportunity to groom Fields as the 1B of the future. I'm not sure how Fields is doing at AAA this season(see below), but he certainly showed elite power last season. His AVG+OBP leaves something to be desired, but Fields has the bat speed/swing to adjust, and is the type of hitter that could give the lineup a boost if/when Crede, AJ, and Dye come back to earth.Crede is having the season of his lfe, and appears to deserve the ridiculous money the Sox will not throw at him, but I'm starting to think the Sox should move him while his value is at its absolute peak. On the other hand, I'm fine with the 1st round pick the Sox will receive iuf they choose to hold as well. Should be a fun summer in Bridgeport. Wish I could stick around to enjoy it.

EDIT: Fields( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Josh+Fields+cube ) is having an average season at Charlotte and was placed on the DL yesterday(knee). The lack of a prospects, outside of the kid playing SS at Georgia, doesn't paint a pretty picture of future WS lineups. Kenny Williams will need to find some diamonds similar Quentin/Ramirez to keep this team at a championship level over the next few years, but this appears to be his specialty. All aboard!

 
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Buehrle has allowed 3 runs or less in six of his last seven starts, nice to see him com around.

OC is now the player that we thought we got in the offseason, in June .358/.389./507

I would love to play the pirates 16 times a year.

 
Interesting. I didn't know Fields was hurt.

It would be nice to stay hot on the way to another 7-8 game win streak while bringing the NSers back to earth. But they have been playing lights out baseball. Not seeing Big Z can't hurt.

 
Blood bath in the third! 6-6 Freaking Ozuna with the error! We need to get a guy that can play infield, hit and has speed to compliment Joe, C-Missle and OC. Floyd has 60 pitches and he is not even outta the third.

 
Cubs get swept and the Sox just kill the Bucs. Things looking bleak for Big Z as of now and the Cubs had a major melt down with the pen. Knowing the way the season is going the Sox will turn into the "lucky to get 2 runs a game" team. As Belting Bill Melton put it- this year is like the NBA- the home teams are dominating for the most part.

 
did you hear the danks comments?

''We'll all be bringing our nose plugs, try not to smell all the urine over there,'' Danks said Thursday. ''Nah, we're looking to have fun over there, but that place is a [bleep] hole.''
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cub and sox fans
 
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I like Danks today but the key to this series is the Sox have to tighten up the defense and that includes AJ tossing guys out. Something is going to give here. There will be some huge news coming out of this series. Looks like rain in the sky for now

 
Green94 said:
Still can't believe some of the things that went down yesterday, inexcusable.
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:goodposting: I'm not in Chicago right now, but I hope the papers are blasting him about his decisions yesterday. If he's going to call out his players and management, then someone needs to hold his feet to the fire for yesterday.
 
I knew Mariotti wouldn't let us down....

Ozzie's blunder ignites classic Cubs rallyRemoving Danks for no reason the key to North Siders’ classic rallyJune 21, 2008BY JAY MARIOTTI Sun-Times ColumnistNone of these games possibly could match the hype, right? I mean, this newspaper ran a cover photo of the World Series trophy and didn't start the day's hard news until Page 9. USA Today carried a ginormously long piece about Chi-ball. ESPN, often derided in the heartland as the Eastern Standard Parochial Network, turned up its coverage on TV and the Web.It was kind of embarrassing, actually, the idea that a double first-place whammy would be treated as such a shocking revelation. Shouldn't this happen all the time in two Central Divisions that include one megamarket and a lot of Hootervilles? Shouldn't the Cubs and White Sox have flaunted big-money payrolls all along? You sat back at Wrigley Field and waited for the inevitable snoozer, knowing it was June, knowing that many Cubbie occurrences and South Side blowups (blowup dolls, too) were possible.» Click to enlarge imageOzzie Guillen's unnecessary pitching change cost the White Sox dearly.(Tom Cruze/Sun-Times)RELATED STORIESOzzie wants a little fairness, respect Linebrink appreciates All-Star endorsement De Luca: Fans fall into A.J.'s boo-me trapAnd then, in the seventh inning Friday, October broke out. That's when a dull game was interrupted by a managerial brain cramp that ultimately turned a cozy Sox lead into a terrific ballgame and dramatic Cubs victory, sending Wrigleyville into a rocking, quivering, cup-tossing, `W'-banner-waving frenzy. I find it interesting that the principals involved in the Sox demise were Ozzie Guillen and John Danks, mainly because the manager and starting pitcher had participated beforehand in more of the same, South Side-dopey bashing of the timeless masterpiece that is Wrigley.``You go to take batting practice, and the rats are bigger than pigs out there," said Guillen, seeing no charm in the batting-cage setup under the bleachers, even after the Cubs gave his family a suite for the series. ``You want to take a look? I think the rats out there are lifting weights.''Said Danks, merely 22 and not nearly established enough to be ripping Americana: ``We'll all be bringing our nose plugs, trying not to smell all the urine over there ... that place is a [bleep] hole.''Which prompted Cubs manager Lou Piniella, who's a little too big in the business to be jumping on trampolines with Ozzie in goofy TV ads, to chide Guillen and defend his green-splashed workplace. ``If you can believe everything Ozzie says, then I guess you should be ... I haven't seen any rats around here, to be honest with you," he said.Though acting like a child, Danks pitched like a man in his six innings, allowing only a run and five hits with five strikeouts in only 85 pitches. It made perfect sense for Danks to carry on and protect a 3-1 lead, with the Cubs admittedly baffled by his stuff. Enter the Blizzard of Oz. Normally, it's his mouth that gets him into trouble, but on this day, it was his thought process. With the Cubs looking half-asleep after arriving in the wee hours from Tampa Bay, where they were swept by the emerging Rays, Guillen should have let Danks bat to lead off the seventh. Instead, he pinch-hit for the pitcher and got nothing out of the inning anyway.``I was surprised,'' Cubs slugger Aramis Ramirez said. ``I don't know how many pitches he had.''Not enough to pull him. ``He was very tough,'' Cubs starter Ted Lilly said.Well, the Blizzard yanked Danks anyway and inserted the sporadically reliable Octavio Dotel. You could hear the licking of chops and high-fives from the third-base dugout. Before anyone could utter ``dumb move,'' Derrek Lee and Ramirez had crushed back-to-back homers off Dotel, tying the score and turning all heads toward Ozzie in this meticulously analyzed, scrutinized series. Why go to your bullpen so soon when Danks was performing so well? Why not let Danks find a smidgen of trouble before making a move? Hadn't he retired the Cubs in order in the third, fourth and fifth innings and on one single in the sixth?``Listen, that's Ozzie's decision, not mine,'' Piniella said later, sensing what was coming.This was a case of Guillen, the attention hog, imposing his strategic ego on a game when it wasn't necessary. It would cost him tremendously in the bottom of the ninth, when Scott Linebrink, in relief of Matt Thornton, allowed a game-winning blast by Ramirez that dropped into the thatch of ivy in front of the Batter's Eye Restaurant in center field. As beer splashed around the bleachers and Cubdom jumped and gyrated for a good five minutes, as ``Go Cubs Go'' resonated again around the Friendly Confines, you realized this was yet another reason why the Cubs might be destined for October -- and why the Sox still have issues, such as their play on the road, where the're averaging 1.9 runs during an 0-7 skid. Not only is the offense hot and cold, with Paul Konerko ready for the pasture and Jim Thome swinging for the fences every pitch, I'm not at all convinced Guillen is the ``real good manager'' that Sox boss Ken Williams thinks he is. His removal of Danks is Exhibit A.As usual, Guillen preferred to blame the bats. ``We had a chance and we couldn't get the big hit. If you don't score, they're going to bury you," he said. ``They have pretty good hitters and we have to score more runs."Afterward, there was even better Cubs news in the form of an MRI. It revealed no structural damage in the right shoulder of Carlos Zambrano, only a ``minor strain.'' There still should be concern about Zambrano, the pitching ace and team lifeblood, staying healthy through the second half of the season. While heeding the wise lessons of former teammate Greg Maddux and pitching smarter these days, with less velocity and more location, Big Z still is capable of a Cubbie catastrophe with his various moods, quirks, Red Bull binges and mysterious cramps.But at least he's not out for an extended period, apparently. If general manager Jim Hendry can acquire another starter -- Oakland's Rich Harden (4-0, 2.53 ERA) works for me -- they're still a major October player. The Cubs can get by without Alfonso Soriano, whose latest attempts to return quickly from the disabled list were rebuffed by Piniella. ``Unless it's Wiffle Ball, it's nothing,'' he said. ``He's not ready to go. We're going to be very cautious with (the broken hand) and give it ample time to heal, so that when he's back, he's ready.''The Cubs needed this win. A loss to the Sox, after a sweep by the Rays, would have sounded the red alerts in paranoid Cubdom. ``You're playing your crosstown rivalry team -- you don't want to let this thing slide too far,'' Piniella said.``We show that we never give up. We have a lot of come-from-behind wins at home,'' said Ramirez, who is mastering the art of the walkoff homer. ``I guess the crowd -- this ballpark is a great place to play. We take advantage of the situation.''Actually, on this day, they took advantage of Guillen. Now the Blizzard knows how it feels on the other side of life. You engage in a hissing match with a rat, you pay.
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You might as well stick a fork in Jose Contreras, preferably over and over again. There's no way that mental midget bounces back from this.

 
Limp Ditka said:
You might as well stick a fork in Jose Contreras, preferably over and over again. There's no way that mental midget bounces back from this.
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:goodposting: sitting in the bleachers tonight i heard a few "die hard" sox fans, they were mystified he lasted that long. they couldnt wait to get him outta there.
 
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SuperAwesomeDude said:
Limp Ditka said:
You might as well stick a fork in Jose Contreras, preferably over and over again. There's no way that mental midget bounces back from this.
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:thumbdown: sitting in the bleachers tonight i heard a few "die hard" sox fans, they were mystified he lasted that long. they couldnt wait to get him outta there.
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You broke into Wrigley tonight and had an imaginative conversation with a few die hard sox fans about Jose Contreras? :mellow:
 
Green94 said:
Set up for a sweep here, Sox fans, brace yourself.
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:thumbup:And so the beginning of the end this weekend. Fact of the matter is, this team really isn't that good.Minnesota will probably overtake them this week and Detroit isn't far behind, who will eventually take 1st place in this division.It was fun while it lasted. :hifive:
 
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