Who are the backups QBs that could step in and light it up? (1 Viewer)

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We've all seen that backup Qbs can sometimes come in and light the world on fire. Brady and Rome backed up Bledsoe, obviously Rodgers showed some serious potential against the Cowboys last season we say Derek Anderson step up bigtime. Who has a real chance to emerge as a legit Top 15 fantasy QB if they can just manage to get in there?

Todd Bouman (Ravens) - Not likely

Matt Leinart (Cardinals) - just looks like a bust.

JP Losman (Bills) maybe, but this team isn't geared toward the pass and we've seen what he's got.

Chris Redman (Falcons) ....ummm no.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (Bengals) Hmmmm maybe. Certainly has the weapons at his disposal. That line puts Carson at risk.

Josh McCown (Panthers) - Looks like Drago, but that's about all he's shown. Looks the part but must lack between the ears.

Brady Quinn (Browns) - I think he could definitely light it up, obviously Anderson is pretty secure right now, but Brady might be able to produce some great numbers with Edwards and Winslow

Rex Grossman (Bears) - Next

Patrick Ramsey (Broncos) - Starting experience and some awesome weapons. Has some potential.

Brad Johnson (Cowboys) - Will be more of a manager. Can't get the ball downfield.

Sage Rosenfels (Texans) - I don't see it. Team just looks like a 6-10 type of squad. No running game and only a few weapons.

Dan Orlovsky (Lions) - Maybe just maybe with those weapons. Actually the league is just crazy enough for this to happen.

Jim Sorgi (Colts) - I don't know that Peyton makes it through the season. Line is in shambles and he's obviously not himself. But this team is set up to pass and the OC got 30 touchdowns out of Scott Mitchell once.

Matt Flynn (Packers) - I don't know, he beat out fellow rookie Brohm and appears to have NFL talent. Packers wideout have nice RAC ability.

Cleo Lemon (Jaguars) - This team is struggling with Garrard, I don't think Lemon would have much of a chance to crack the top 20.

Gus Frerotte (Vikings) - Gus is serviceable. Or at least he was in the past. But with Berrian really the only weapon, there are much better vets like Ramsey and Sorgi to pick from.

Tyler Thigpen (Chiefs) - He'll get his chance this week. But this team just appears on the brink of implosion.

Mark Brunell (Saints) - This guy is like Rasputin. If he could stay healthy and get Colston back he could replicate his stats from 2005 I think.

Chad Henne (Dolphins) - Maybe he could but I don't think the situation is in place. Top 20 possibly but not a guy that will carry you to the playoffs.

David Carr (Giants) - I don't know. Seems like he's shell shocked from the abuse in Houston.

Matt Cassell (Patriots) - obviously has the opportunity but I don't think he's got the ability. He might be a QB15 but that is about it I'd think.

Kevin Kolb (Eagles) - might be an option if McNabb were to bite the dust, but that offense seems to flow through Donovan and I don't know if Kolb can get even close to the same production.

Kellen Clemens (Jets) - Fat chance on this one. I think he'd be a spot start type of guy.

Trent Green (Rams) - We might get the chance to see this. He could have an outside shot at good numbers.

Andrew Walter (Raiders) - Not likely. Team is a dysfunctional run first mess.

Shaun Hill (49ers) - Martz makes Qbs shine. He's got a shot.

Byron Leftwich (Steelers) - I don't think he could produce on the 15 attempts he'd get per game like Ben does.

Seneca Wallace (Seahawks) - No weapons. Actually he'd have to throw to himself.

Billy Volek (Chargers) - Now we are talking. Made a huge impact with Bennett years ago which leads me to believe he could throw it up for a big guy like Jackson.

Brian Griese (Bucs) - might have a chance but with Galloway gimpy, they've basically got Ike Hilliard to rely on. That's thin.

Kerry Collins (Titans) - has the opportunity but not the coaching philosophy IMO. He's on a run first and run second type of team. His ceiling is probably QB16-20 or something like that.

Todd Collins (Redskins) - Probably has a chance. He's a scrappy old vet with some good weapons. Campbell lit it up last week but looked completely lost in week 1.

 

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Nothing eh?

 

[hellz_fireflies]

If I knew I be a shark I guess, don't know tho!

 

[Interseptopus]

Brady Quinn (Browns) - I think he could definitely light it up, obviously Anderson is pretty secure right now, but Brady might be able to produce some great numbers with Edwards and Winslow

Shaun Hill (49ers) - Martz makes Qbs shine. He's got a shot.

Anderson is secure? 57 something passer rating and a 51 completion percentage? 2 INTs and 1 TD? Quinn will be the week 4 starter after CLE starts 0-3And Martz is HARDLY a QB god. I'm real tired of everyone getting a hard on for this guy. There's a reason he's on his 3rd team in 4 years. Look at STL, Bulger was hardly fantastic. Kitna was awful. The only reason people think he's a god with QBs is because of Warner, and Warner was just accurate.

Your whole question is hard to understand. This year? Next year? Eventually?

On top of that, you are comparing highly drafted QBs (I will call them first-dayers in this post) to guys like Tony Romo and Brady, who were undrafted and drafted very late. Also, you include guys like Brunell, Frerotte, etc... guys who have had their shot. Anyone over the age of 30 should be disqualified from this conversation if you're asking who can emerge like Tony Romo or Brady. Even if you're tlaking about THIS season, the list is:

Quinn

Kolb

Cassel

Anyone else is not in as potent of an offense to succeed as a top 15 QB. Even so, Quinn and Kolb are first-dayers

You want to talk about eventually? Okay, then you have to look deeper like:

I. Martin

T. Thigpen

M. Flynn

J. Booty

A. Woodson

Ainge

Not to say Martin and Thigpen have learned behind good QBs (Martin did have a year under Favre and looked better than Rodgers as a rookie), but rather are in good situations and in a decent offense.

In order to successfully answer this question, you need to take a look at rostered second-dayers or undrafted players in the last 3 years and then see who is in a great situation, who has studied behind a good QB, and THEN make a good decision. All you've done is go down the list of depth charts and pick names out of a hat and said a few things about them. The fact that guys like Mark Brunell was mentioned in the OP is probably why you are getting no responses to this. You can't say "Tom Brady and Tony Romo" and then turn around and mention Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell, etc. Tony Romo had 3 years of learning. Tom Brady is just a rare occurance. You want to pick out this year's stand out QB. Okay, Cassel, Quinn, Kolb. Beyond that is anyone's guess, but my list above is a decent one to start out with. If those guys can get some years under their belts they will turn out to be fantastic QBs.

Aaron Rodgers would have fell on his face worse than Alex Smith in SF if he was drafted by them. Likewise had Alex Smith had 2-3 years to sit and watch he may have turned out better. The fact that Aaron Rodgers sat for 3 years is what helped him become way better than he would have if he started right away. Same with Tony Romo, but he's an extreme case because he was undrafted. I could see Ainge becoming a fantastic QB in 3 years if he continues to learn. Same with Booty but I think Booty will be forced to play this season. Flynn will be a very good QB in the NFL. It's all about everything coming together- opportunity, years of tutelage, QB tutored under, system, natural talent.

That's why some QBs fall flat on their face and can never get out of it (Carr), while some are undrafted and go on to have a huge career (Romo). It's not about talent. There's a reason Carr was selected #1 overall and Romo went undrafted. It's about everything coming together

 

[taz]

Any of those QBs would be worth rostering if they're starting, but w/ the exception of Quinn, I wouldn't waste the roster spot on any of them right now.

If you have a deep bench in a redraft and really want to stash someone with the idea they could be productive in a starting role this season:

Quinn

Leinart (call me crazy, but I think he could be a serviceable starter if Warner gets hurt)

Rosenfels

Kolb

 

[MichiganPanthers]

Papers here in MI are saying that if Kitna is pulled, it will be Drew Stanton taking over and not Orlovsky. Stanton would have gotten the backup job out of camp if he didn't bruise his thumb. Stanton has great mobility, which helps when the o-line blows. I think that with the weapons that DET have, Stanton will be a solid QB. Maybe not this year, but I see him starting next year (Unless the next coach wants to bring in his own guy.) Down side is that Stanton is an injury risk.

 

[two_dollars]

I like the Volek assessment. He could be gold if Rivers goes down.

And I also drafted Quinn in the 18th rd of my draft as a QB3 because I didn't believe in the Browns this year. Especially after Anderson's 2nd half last season. ( I owned him last year)

 

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Brady Quinn (Browns) - I think he could definitely light it up, obviously Anderson is pretty secure right now, but Brady might be able to produce some great numbers with Edwards and Winslow

Shaun Hill (49ers) - Martz makes Qbs shine. He's got a shot.

Anderson is secure? 57 something passer rating and a 51 completion percentage? 2 INTs and 1 TD? Quinn will be the week 4 starter after CLE starts 0-3And Martz is HARDLY a QB god. I'm real tired of everyone getting a hard on for this guy. There's a reason he's on his 3rd team in 4 years. Look at STL, Bulger was hardly fantastic. Kitna was awful. The only reason people think he's a god with QBs is because of Warner, and Warner was just accurate.

Your whole question is hard to understand. This year? Next year? Eventually?

On top of that, you are comparing highly drafted QBs (I will call them first-dayers in this post) to guys like Tony Romo and Brady, who were undrafted and drafted very late. Also, you include guys like Brunell, Frerotte, etc... guys who have had their shot. Anyone over the age of 30 should be disqualified from this conversation if you're asking who can emerge like Tony Romo or Brady. Even if you're tlaking about THIS season, the list is:

Quinn

Kolb

Cassel

Anyone else is not in as potent of an offense to succeed as a top 15 QB. Even so, Quinn and Kolb are first-dayers

You want to talk about eventually? Okay, then you have to look deeper like:

I. Martin

T. Thigpen

M. Flynn

J. Booty

A. Woodson

Ainge

Not to say Martin and Thigpen have learned behind good QBs (Martin did have a year under Favre and looked better than Rodgers as a rookie), but rather are in good situations and in a decent offense.

In order to successfully answer this question, you need to take a look at rostered second-dayers or undrafted players in the last 3 years and then see who is in a great situation, who has studied behind a good QB, and THEN make a good decision. All you've done is go down the list of depth charts and pick names out of a hat and said a few things about them. The fact that guys like Mark Brunell was mentioned in the OP is probably why you are getting no responses to this. You can't say "Tom Brady and Tony Romo" and then turn around and mention Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell, etc. Tony Romo had 3 years of learning. Tom Brady is just a rare occurance. You want to pick out this year's stand out QB. Okay, Cassel, Quinn, Kolb. Beyond that is anyone's guess, but my list above is a decent one to start out with. If those guys can get some years under their belts they will turn out to be fantastic QBs.

Aaron Rodgers would have fell on his face worse than Alex Smith in SF if he was drafted by them. Likewise had Alex Smith had 2-3 years to sit and watch he may have turned out better. The fact that Aaron Rodgers sat for 3 years is what helped him become way better than he would have if he started right away. Same with Tony Romo, but he's an extreme case because he was undrafted. I could see Ainge becoming a fantastic QB in 3 years if he continues to learn. Same with Booty but I think Booty will be forced to play this season. Flynn will be a very good QB in the NFL. It's all about everything coming together- opportunity, years of tutelage, QB tutored under, system, natural talent.

That's why some QBs fall flat on their face and can never get out of it (Carr), while some are undrafted and go on to have a huge career (Romo). It's not about talent. There's a reason Carr was selected #1 overall and Romo went undrafted. It's about everything coming together

I went with the 2nd Qb on the FBG depth charts for every team.

 

[sterjs]

In redraft, Cassell is the best choice, Quinn is okay as a handcuff to Anderson... the rest are likely non-entities except as marginal spot starters in 2 QB Leagues. In Dynasty, I like Quinn, Kolb and Henne. All three have decent pedigrees and Quinn is on a team with a great Offensive Line and good skill position players.

 

[dmac37]

Any of those QBs would be worth rostering if they're starting, but w/ the exception of Quinn, I wouldn't waste the roster spot on any of them right now.

If you have a deep bench in a redraft and really want to stash someone with the idea they could be productive in a starting role this season:

Quinn

Leinart (call me crazy, but I think he could be a serviceable starter if Warner gets hurt)

Rosenfels

Kolb

Ding Ding Ding- we have a winner!

All are in a position to take over in a passing offense.

Quinn, Kolb & Leinart are young guns next in line with many weapons

Rosenflels is waiting in the wings while getting the coaches praise behind a QB on a short leash

 

[[scooter]]

And Martz is HARDLY a QB god. I'm real tired of everyone getting a hard on for this guy. There's a reason he's on his 3rd team in 4 years. Look at STL, Bulger was hardly fantastic. Kitna was awful. The only reason people think he's a god with QBs is because of Warner, and Warner was just accurate.

Huh? Trent Green was a top-10 fantasy QB in his brief stint in St. Louis; Bulger was a top-10 QB in 2 of the 3 seasons that Martz coached him; Kitna was in the top-5 in 2006. Maybe Kitna was "awful" in the sense that he had 22 INTs and 11 fumbles, but he did throw for 4200 yards and had 23 TDs, and that's all that matters from a fantasy football perspective.

 

[baconisgood]

Chris Redman (Falcons) ....ummm no.

This is funny. You go through all the QBs looking for a diamond in the rough and you totally discount the guy who actually did it last year. Redman averaged 260 yards and 2.5 tds 1.25 ints in the 4 games where he had 20+ attempts.

Sage Rosenfels (Texans) - I don't see it. Team just looks like a 6-10 type of squad. No running game and only a few weapons.

Ditto for this guy, he puts up 1700 yards and 15 TDs in 10 games (5 starts) and you just dismiss him. If hes good enough to get AJ the ball then hes good enough to be a top 15 QB FF wise.

 

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Any of those QBs would be worth rostering if they're starting, but w/ the exception of Quinn, I wouldn't waste the roster spot on any of them right now.

If you have a deep bench in a redraft and really want to stash someone with the idea they could be productive in a starting role this season:

Quinn

Leinart (call me crazy, but I think he could be a serviceable starter if Warner gets hurt)

Rosenfels

Kolb

Ding Ding Ding- we have a winner!

All are in a position to take over in a passing offense.

Quinn, Kolb & Leinart are young guns next in line with many weapons

Rosenflels is waiting in the wings while getting the coaches praise behind a QB on a short leash

Can you provide some linkage to the bolded statement above?I was unaware of any leash whatsoever.

 

[NatronIsMean]

Chris Redman (Falcons) ....ummm no.

This is funny. You go through all the QBs looking for a diamond in the rough and you totally discount the guy who actually did it last year. Redman averaged 260 yards and 2.5 tds 1.25 ints in the 4 games where he had 20+ attempts.

Sage Rosenfels (Texans) - I don't see it. Team just looks like a 6-10 type of squad. No running game and only a few weapons.

Ditto for this guy, he puts up 1700 yards and 15 TDs in 10 games (5 starts) and you just dismiss him. If hes good enough to get AJ the ball then hes good enough to be a top 15 QB FF wise.

That jumped out at me as well. Redman helped me win a playoff game last year. Sage would have if only he was available. Both showed very solid upside. Especially Sage, who threw for 15 TDs to 12 INTs (Schaub threw 9 TD and 9 INTs in more games IIRC).

 

[dmac37]

Any of those QBs would be worth rostering if they're starting, but w/ the exception of Quinn, I wouldn't waste the roster spot on any of them right now.

If you have a deep bench in a redraft and really want to stash someone with the idea they could be productive in a starting role this season:

Quinn

Leinart (call me crazy, but I think he could be a serviceable starter if Warner gets hurt)

Rosenfels

Kolb

Ding Ding Ding- we have a winner!

All are in a position to take over in a passing offense.

Quinn, Kolb & Leinart are young guns next in line with many weapons

Rosenflels is waiting in the wings while getting the coaches praise behind a QB on a short leash

Can you provide some linkage to the bolded statement above?I was unaware of any leash whatsoever.

Quote from Cecil Lammey in the Schaub/Rosenfels thread:

I expect Matt Schaub to be given very little time to right the ship. When I talked to Texans OC Kyle Shanahan I asked him about the difference between the two. He was raving about how it was great to have 2 good QBs, and that both were very similar passers.

Schaub can run the offense better, when everything goes as planned. Rosenfels likes to take more chances, and can move around the pocket to keep a play alive. He will force the ball when he doesn't need to, but he is not a statue back there and is always looking to make a play downfield.

We'll see if Matt can hold up to the rush and not crumble under pressure. I think Schaub is a good QB, but on this offense Sage is a better fit.

 

[FavreCo]

David Carr (Giants) - I don't know. Seems like he's shell shocked from the abuse in Houston.

Kellen Clemens (Jets) - Fat chance on this one. I think he'd be a spot start type of guy.

The Carr one' is funny. The only thing abused with carr is an offense's output.Brett Ratliff will take over for me when I'm done.....17 years from now.

 

[comfortably numb]

Any of those QBs would be worth rostering if they're starting, but w/ the exception of Quinn, I wouldn't waste the roster spot on any of them right now.

If you have a deep bench in a redraft and really want to stash someone with the idea they could be productive in a starting role this season:

Quinn

Leinart (call me crazy, but I think he could be a serviceable starter if Warner gets hurt)

Rosenfels

Kolb

Ding Ding Ding- we have a winner!

All are in a position to take over in a passing offense.

Quinn, Kolb & Leinart are young guns next in line with many weapons

Rosenflels is waiting in the wings while getting the coaches praise behind a QB on a short leash

Can you provide some linkage to the bolded statement above?I was unaware of any leash whatsoever.

Quote from Cecil Lammey in the Schaub/Rosenfels thread:

I expect Matt Schaub to be given very little time to right the ship. When I talked to Texans OC Kyle Shanahan I asked him about the difference between the two. He was raving about how it was great to have 2 good QBs, and that both were very similar passers.

Schaub can run the offense better, when everything goes as planned. Rosenfels likes to take more chances, and can move around the pocket to keep a play alive. He will force the ball when he doesn't need to, but he is not a statue back there and is always looking to make a play downfield.

We'll see if Matt can hold up to the rush and not crumble under pressure. I think Schaub is a good QB, but on this offense Sage is a better fit.

Thanks, not a direct quote from HOU management, and I didn't really think the ship needed to be righted after 1 loss to a good PIT team.

Either way, interesting take.

 

[MAC_32]

Quinn's the easy one.

I'm high on Rosenfels if he were called upon.

Volek is an interesting wildcard.

I still have hope for Clemens, but in that offense he'll be limited.

Those are the ones that intrigue me...

 

[FUBAR]

Backups I like:

Gold:

Quinn

Kolb

Silver:

Henne - give him weapons and he's gold

O'Connell

Rosenfells

Bronze:

Matt Flynn

Leftwich - but he'd pass a lot more than Ben, and throw INTs

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

McCown, Rosenfels, and Kolb

THe McCown response may raise a few eyebrows, but I think if Delhomme goes down he could succeed. He does throw some INTs, but with Smith there, he could go off. I don't like him long term, but for a year, yes.

Rosenfels and Kolb could be top 10 in those systems.

 

[jon_mx]

Rex Grossman (Bears) - Next

It would take an awful lot for the Bears to give Grossman another shot, but Orton seems to be trying.