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Who are the WORST 6 offenses in the league? (1 Viewer)

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bigreese82

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Trying to put together an early team defense SOS. We'll put a list together then match them up with the number of times a Team Defense plays these WORST 6

I'll start

(in no particular order)

1.San Fran...Alex Smith

2.Buffalo...

3.Chi..

4.NYJ

5..??

6.??

Feel free to discuss :popcorn:

 
I like your top 4. Next two pretty hard, hate to say it but you could make an argument for my Redskins being in there.

 
I like your top 4.  Next two pretty hard, hate to say it but you could make an argument for my Redskins being in there.

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They were 13th in points, 11th in yards, didn't turn the ball over an excessive amount of time last year, and add Al Saunders, ARE, and Brandon Lloyd and you think they might be one of the 6 worst offenses?
 
I like your top 4.  Next two pretty hard, hate to say it but you could make an argument for my Redskins being in there.

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They were 13th in points, 11th in yards, didn't turn the ball over an excessive amount of time last year, and add Al Saunders, ARE, and Brandon Lloyd and you think they might be one of the 6 worst offenses?
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I think the Redskins offense has to be better than last year unless Campbell satrts or comes in early in the year
 
Yes, Cleveland is a possibility.

Houston because turnarounds don't happen overnight.

I'll even throw out the Eagles as a dark horse. No true running game, loss of Owens, McNabb ain't getting any younger, inexperienced WR's, league figuring out their offense, tough division... :ph34r:

 
I like your top 4.  Next two pretty hard, hate to say it but you could make an argument for my Redskins being in there.

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They were 13th in points, 11th in yards, didn't turn the ball over an excessive amount of time last year, and add Al Saunders, ARE, and Brandon Lloyd and you think they might be one of the 6 worst offenses?
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If Brunell goes down early, we will be in some trouble.....just my biggest fear i suppose, so I'm looking at the worst case scenario. :bag:
 
1. San Francisco (w/ no WR)

2. Jets (weak RB game, questions at QB, spotty WR)

3. Buffalo (w/ Losman and weak WR)

4. Baltimore (depends on McNair)

 
SF

BUF

NYJ

GB

MIN

DET

this is why you have to love the Chicago schedule. I believe they play nine games against this group.

 
Last year the 6 bottom teams were:

27: DET

28: BUF

29: CHI

30: HOU

31: NYJ

32: SF

SF was breaking in a rookie QB. NYJ was just plain old breaking QBs. HOU had no O-line. CHI was breaking in a rookie QB (who was a 5th rounder, irrc). BUF was breaking in a first-year starter at QB. DET was inexcusably awful.

The common thread in all this is that the worst teams on offense tend to be the ones that lose their starting QBs or are bringing on first-time starters.

 
Let me be the first to throw Miami in the mix.

1-Culpepper hurt until ?????? and might not grasp the offense until late 2006.

2-Who's the backup to start the season?

............and if you say Joey Harrington, he's not even on the team yet and he'd STILL have to get acclimated to a new offense AND miraculously improve his career stats.

3-Ricky no longer there to mix up the RB backfield.

 
I like your top 4.  Next two pretty hard, hate to say it but you could make an argument for my Redskins being in there.

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:o I don't see that being the case at all. Not bottom six anyway.

The teams strongly in the mix for this are:

SF

Houston

NYJ

Tenn

Det

Buff

NO

Borderline teams

Minn

Miami

Raiders

GB

Clev

Balt

 
Great thread.

But I'm wondering about those suggestions that the Jaguars are a turnover prone offense - from what i've seen of Leftwich, they seem to be very risk averse and conservative - isn't this the usual knock we give Leftwich (reason why he's not a top-12 QB)? Just wondering.

 
NFC:

West: SF looks like a lock.

North: GB should be a Turnover Machine again this year with the Fa(v)rewell Tour going on. However, I'm not so sure about the other NFC North teams. I thought Minn cut their TOs down considerably once Pepper went down. I think CHI should improve just enough with Grossman/Griese and should still be able to keep TOs under control. DET has potential to stink again, and Kitna's usually good for at least a pick a game but Martz there scares me.

South: I think NO has high sucking potential if Brees' arm isn't 100% real soon.

East: No real strong candidates

AFC:

East: BUF and NYJ are likely

South: With McNair (presumably) leaving, Tennesee should be a solid source of DEF points. Houston may take another year to solidify, but will probably improve this year.

North: Bal should improve (Again, assuming a McNair move), CLE may not score many points but I wouldn't be surprised if they keep turnovers low too. Romeo should have them playing ball-control and defense.

West: Oak will probably score a fair number of points, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a high number of TOs from brooks. SD is interesting to watch, just in case Rivers blows.

I'd put my top 6 as

SF

BUF

NYJ

TEN

GB

Det

Ones that bear watching:

NO (Brees health)

Oak

Cle

Hou

Chi

SD (Rivers)

Bal (McNair?)

So much of it depends heavily on scoring systems..

 
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Last year the 6 bottom teams were:

27: DET

28: BUF

29: CHI

30: HOU

31: NYJ

32: SF

SF was breaking in a rookie QB. NYJ was just plain old breaking QBs. HOU had no O-line. CHI was breaking in a rookie QB (who was a 5th rounder, irrc). BUF was breaking in a first-year starter at QB. DET was inexcusably awful.

The common thread in all this is that the worst teams on offense tend to be the ones that lose their starting QBs or are bringing on first-time starters.

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True...I think Houston will move up a few spots(they have to right?), and the Bears were putting up close to 21 points per game with Grossman taking snaps. I'm not sure there is much hope for the other teams, although one would expect Martz to improve the Lions offense.

 
any other golden team defenses with schedules like Chicago?

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The following has potential. After a down year, might the Patriots represent some value?Date Opponent

Sep 10 Buffalo :pickle:

Sep 17 @N.Y. Jets :thumbup:

Sep 24 Denver :no:

Oct 1 @Cincinnati :mellow: (Palmer?)

Oct 8 Miami :unsure: (Pepper? Are they more inviting with him or without him?)

Week 6 BYE

Oct 22 @Buffalo :headbang:

Oct 30 @Minnesota :shrug:

Nov 5 Indianapolis :popcorn: (Will they get in Peyton's head again)

Nov 12 N.Y. Jets :clap:

Nov 19 @Green Bay :banned:

Nov 26 Chicago :confused:

Dec 3 Detroit :hey:

Dec 10 @Miami (see above)

Dec 17 Houston :shrug:

Dec 24 @Jacksonville :shrug:

Dec 31 @Tennessee :hifive:

 
Just to note, there is typically greater than 50% turnover in this stat year-to-year. You can probably expect four of the bottom six offenses to not have been in that category last year.

SF is the only one that I think you can pretty well count on to continue sucking.

 
NY Jets (Martin old, quarterback a ???, no top-tier receiving threat)

Buffalo (Losman - enough said)

Baltimore (without Steve McNair)

Chicago (if quarterback play doesn't significantly improve. OL, running game and Muhsin Muhammad are very good though)

Cleveland (not terrible but if they go with Frye at quarterback, the Browns will either be overly cautious or suffer from turnovers)

SF (offensive line is improving but ??? at running back, average receiver talent at best and Alex Smith still learning on the fly all add up to another below par season)

Here's a curve ball.

Green bay (Favre almost retired and likely should have, OL is a mess, running back situation is up in air, Javon Walker is gone)

 
Bears will not be a bottom 6 offense this year. NO way. Last year, they had a rookie at QB, and did not have their top 3 draft picks on the field for much of the time, and they also had injuries to Des Clark and Berrian for quite a bit of time. Add to that it was the 1st year in that O scheme and a rookie was thrown in the fire after getting 3rd string reps all of training camp.

In my mind the bottom 6 will look something like this (not in that order necessarily):

San Fran

New York Jets

Browns (Frye is still too inexperienced and if Edwards is out for half the season, they are in trouble)

Titans

Green Bay

Dolphins (I do not see Culpepper playing this year)

NOte: Bucs might be on this list too. I am not sold on Simms, and this year Galloway will find a way to get back on the injured list.

 
Jags offense last season was right around average. Leftwich had a 3:1 TD:INT ratio and was a top 10 rated passer. I'm not sure why anyone would put them top 6 worst.

 
Trying to put together an early team defense SOS. We'll put a list together then match them up with the number of times a Team Defense plays these WORST 6

I'll start

(in no particular order)

1.San Fran...Alex Smith

2.Buffalo...

3.Chi..

4.NYJ

5..??

6.??

Feel free to discuss  :popcorn:

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Eli Manning looked just as bad as Smith during his rookie year. He didn't do too bad in his 2nd year. Vernon Davis will help a bunch and Gore will be one more year away from his injury.Same logic can apply to Losman in Buffalo.

Chicago gets their QB back, still has a stud #1 WR, and should have their RB back giving them a potent rushing attack with 2 potential studs.

The Jets get their QB back and drafted two o-linemen to help out.

I'm not saying that you're totally wrong, but it does appear that you're relying upon last year a little too much, as all of those teams have improved in the offseason.

I think GB could be pretty bad. Favre and Ahman are one year older, they still have no true #1 WR, and they didn't do a whole lot to help themselves offensively imo.

Minnesota could have a very bad year offensively. Detroit too...wow that whole division is pretty bad offensively now that I think about it.

I like what Cleveland is doing with their overall team, but their offense could be bad.

Tennessee could be horrible, especially if McNair doesn't return.

 
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I like your top 4.  Next two pretty hard, hate to say it but you could make an argument for my Redskins being in there.

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I'm a Redskins homer so take this FWIW. Last year the Redskins were 13th in points scored and 11th in total yardage. They added 2 solid WRs, which was their biggest weakness. They didn't lose anyone noticeable. Why do you suddenly think they'll be bottom 6?
 
Yes, Cleveland is a possibility.

Houston because turnarounds don't happen overnight.

I'll even throw out the Eagles as a dark horse. No true running game, loss of Owens, McNabb ain't getting any younger, inexperienced WR's, league figuring out their offense, tough division...  :ph34r:

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Great prediction. A bit gutsy, but I like it when people look ahead instead of back. I could definitely see this happening, and the tough Ds in their division is a huge reason why.
 
I like your top 4.  Next two pretty hard, hate to say it but you could make an argument for my Redskins being in there.

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:o I don't see that being the case at all. Not bottom six anyway.

The teams strongly in the mix for this are:

SF

Houston

NYJ

Tenn

Det

Buff

NO

Borderline teams

Minn

Miami

Raiders

GB

Clev

Balt

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Why the Raiders? Moss, Jordan, Brooks, and a below average defensive division.
 
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