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Really depends where I am draft-order, and who’s on the board. I tend to go Hero RB. I want one in the 1st 3 rounds. Towards the end of the 1st I’m targeting Saquan.
in agreement for the most part here, but would consider Taylor as well. And you can get Walker/Mixon much later, who I'm targeting.
Yeah, I believe Walker/Mixon are currently 4th round ADP, but I expect them to creep up by end of August.
Agree with all but Barkley.
Fair point. In big $ league I'm seemingly destined for the back of the draft (#1 pick once in 25 years, 9-12 the last 15 or so), so subconscious bias there. I do think both are criminally undervalued right now (but to your point, the next three weeks see the most change).
Rachaad? I don't like him.......I have a feeling his volume goes way down and he isn't as effective for FF.
Yeah, it definitely matters if you’re at the 9-12 positions. You can theoretically let them slip & hope one’s there ~6 picks later.
I think he’s going to be every bit as good as last year. Irving isn’t a great RB and is getting way too much shine. I did a bit of a deep dive on that backfield, and I don’t see any reason White won’t be just as good as he was last year.
Problem was he wasn't good last year. He was a volume hog.......which could happen again for sure but I don't think it will. I won't be having any Rachaad again this year. haha
I love volume hogs!
It’s really not that scary.
No Bijan in the 9-14 range if Saquan is off the board at 8?
Not to mention the precipitous dropoff at WR between R1 and R2 (IMNSHO).
Yes.
Yes.
Allgeier isn’t going away, and I’ve been seeing that it’s going to be a closer split than would justify Bijan as a 1st round selection. Maybe Bijan can do more with less, but I haven’t seen it yet, so I’m not trusting him with a mid-1st selection. I believe there are 2nd & 3rd round RB who may score similarly. Not with the same ceiling maybe, but when making those early choices, that definitely influences me.
Gonna be a beast, but I prefer Barkley for the same cost.
Nope. I just opined on that
His former coaching staff sure did and the usage of Bijan, Drake & Pitts is 99.999999% of the reason why.
That’s the current group-think for sure. Not saying it’s
wrong, I’m just saying I disagree with it.
Even missing a game and with, what we all believe was substandard utilization he had 272 touches (300 opportunities) 1,463 yards and 8 TDs.That’s the current group-think for sure. Not saying it’s
Also re: Allgeier, I’ve been following it pretty closely - and the new coaching staff seems to have every intention of “leaning on Allgeier pretty heavily”. Feom what I divine from their comments, that’s gonna be way more of a RBBC than the masses seem to currently believe.
So much so that it turned me into a seller of Bijan when I was one of his biggest truthers.
And no, I do not at all see the dudes behind Saquan as anywhere near the threat that Allgeier is to Bijan’s usage.
But I also realize that I’m out in left field compared to the masses with this take.
Who doesn't? But I just think his volume goes down significantly to where isn't such a volume hog this year.
Sorry, no - that’s not what I’m suggesting.Even missing a game and with, what we all believe was substandard utilization he had 272 touches (300 opportunities) 1,463 yards and 8 TDs.That’s the current group-think for sure. Not saying it’s
Also re: Allgeier, I’ve been following it pretty closely - and the new coaching staff seems to have every intention of “leaning on Allgeier pretty heavily”. Feom what I divine from their comments, that’s gonna be way more of a RBBC than the masses seem to currently believe.
So much so that it turned me into a seller of Bijan when I was one of his biggest truthers.
And no, I do not at all see the dudes behind Saquan as anywhere near the threat that Allgeier is to Bijan’s usage.
But I also realize that I’m out in left field compared to the masses with this take.
What you are suggesting is Bijan's utilization will drop. Even under the most hardline conservative mindset; with Kirk Cousins on board and a defensive minded HC it's tough to see a scenario where Bijan doesn't get a minimum of 250 opportunities. 250 opportunities on what will surely be a significantly improved offense. Outside of Jonathan Taylor there isn't another RB who belongs in the conversation with this group.
Certainly possible. Time will tell.
Who is going to get those carries? Or do you just think the team will run less?
I don’t typically see either hall or Bijan lasting to 1.12 in PPR format.
Just an fyi but this is my 5th draft where Mixon has fallen to 4.10 https://www47.myfantasyleague.com/2024/options?L=20647&O=17
I love it. I will dive much more into ADP as I get closer to my redraft at the end of the month. But it’s great to see that guys that I have higher than some of the second and third rounders are going in the fourth.
Yeah...I don't get it. Trying to move into one draft where Jacobs is there at 5.5.
Not that FBGs is the end all, but you can get RBs in the 4th/5th that are projected the same as 2nd/3rd round guys.
In that case I think you may be overestimating how many opportunities Saquon will get in Philly. The Eagles had 344 RB carries and 93 targets last season and that was with D'Andre Swift going for 268 touches, 1,263 yards & 6 TDs at a 4.6 y/a clip. The O-line is good but losing Kelce is problematic in any universe. And if you don't think Allegeier is going away how do you feel about the Brotherly Shove? It will be less effective without Kelce and the minor rules tweak but Phili will continue to use it until opponents consistently start stopping them.Sorry, no - that’s not what I’m suggesting.Even missing a game and with, what we all believe was substandard utilization he had 272 touches (300 opportunities) 1,463 yards and 8 TDs.That’s the current group-think for sure. Not saying it’s
Also re: Allgeier, I’ve been following it pretty closely - and the new coaching staff seems to have every intention of “leaning on Allgeier pretty heavily”. Feom what I divine from their comments, that’s gonna be way more of a RBBC than the masses seem to currently believe.
So much so that it turned me into a seller of Bijan when I was one of his biggest truthers.
And no, I do not at all see the dudes behind Saquan as anywhere near the threat that Allgeier is to Bijan’s usage.
But I also realize that I’m out in left field compared to the masses with this take.
What you are suggesting is Bijan's utilization will drop. Even under the most hardline conservative mindset; with Kirk Cousins on board and a defensive minded HC it's tough to see a scenario where Bijan doesn't get a minimum of 250 opportunities. 250 opportunities on what will surely be a significantly improved offense. Outside of Jonathan Taylor there isn't another RB who belongs in the conversation with this group.
I’m thinking his opportunities will stay roughly the same, while I believe most folks believe he’s going to ascend to CMC usage.
I’ve seen a couple of articles suggest that, and I’m not believing it.
If I’m wrong about that I’ll regret it considering I just dealt him away.
Certainly possible. Time will tell.
It's at pick 3 as stated.
Be that as it may, I only like Saquan at his ADP.In that case I think you may be overestimating how many opportunities Saquon will get in Philly. The Eagles had 344 RB carries and 93 targets last season and that was with D'Andre Swift going for 268 touches, 1,263 yards & 6 TDs at a 4.6 y/a clip. The O-line is good but losing Kelce is problematic in any universe. And if you don't think Allegeier is going away how do you feel about the Brotherly Shove? It will be less effective without Kelce and the minor rules tweak but Phili will continue to use it until opponents consistently start stopping them.Sorry, no - that’s not what I’m suggesting.Even missing a game and with, what we all believe was substandard utilization he had 272 touches (300 opportunities) 1,463 yards and 8 TDs.That’s the current group-think for sure. Not saying it’s
Also re: Allgeier, I’ve been following it pretty closely - and the new coaching staff seems to have every intention of “leaning on Allgeier pretty heavily”. Feom what I divine from their comments, that’s gonna be way more of a RBBC than the masses seem to currently believe.
So much so that it turned me into a seller of Bijan when I was one of his biggest truthers.
And no, I do not at all see the dudes behind Saquan as anywhere near the threat that Allgeier is to Bijan’s usage.
But I also realize that I’m out in left field compared to the masses with this take.
What you are suggesting is Bijan's utilization will drop. Even under the most hardline conservative mindset; with Kirk Cousins on board and a defensive minded HC it's tough to see a scenario where Bijan doesn't get a minimum of 250 opportunities. 250 opportunities on what will surely be a significantly improved offense. Outside of Jonathan Taylor there isn't another RB who belongs in the conversation with this group.
I’m thinking his opportunities will stay roughly the same, while I believe most folks believe he’s going to ascend to CMC usage.
I’ve seen a couple of articles suggest that, and I’m not believing it.
If I’m wrong about that I’ll regret it considering I just dealt him away.
Certainly possible. Time will tell.
Saquon may eclipse 300 touches but I don't think anyone would be surprised if he was much closer to 275.
One more point for Bijan is the Atlanta o-line also brings a ton of cohesion to the table. I love cohesion on the offensive line. Four returning starters, three first round picks, Lindstrom, Matthews and McGary and a second rounder Bergstrom. They played 14 games together last year (McGary missed 3). Bergstrom was a rookie last year but Lindstrom, Matthews & McGary have started 71 of the last 83 games together over the last five seasons.
All this is to say that I think Saquon, Bijan, Hall & Taylor are all good bets as the #2 RB off the board in any particular order.
Of course. Given the same options I am not sure who I would take. But I generally skew towards a younger RB when I feel their talent levels are similar and so long as the offensive disparity of their teams isn't egregiously lopsided. Personally I think the ATL offense is going to take a big jump this year as all reports about Cousins' health have been positive but, who knows?Be that as it may, I only like Saquan at his ADP.In that case I think you may be overestimating how many opportunities Saquon will get in Philly. The Eagles had 344 RB carries and 93 targets last season and that was with D'Andre Swift going for 268 touches, 1,263 yards & 6 TDs at a 4.6 y/a clip. The O-line is good but losing Kelce is problematic in any universe. And if you don't think Allegeier is going away how do you feel about the Brotherly Shove? It will be less effective without Kelce and the minor rules tweak but Phili will continue to use it until opponents consistently start stopping them.Sorry, no - that’s not what I’m suggesting.Even missing a game and with, what we all believe was substandard utilization he had 272 touches (300 opportunities) 1,463 yards and 8 TDs.That’s the current group-think for sure. Not saying it’s
Also re: Allgeier, I’ve been following it pretty closely - and the new coaching staff seems to have every intention of “leaning on Allgeier pretty heavily”. Feom what I divine from their comments, that’s gonna be way more of a RBBC than the masses seem to currently believe.
So much so that it turned me into a seller of Bijan when I was one of his biggest truthers.
And no, I do not at all see the dudes behind Saquan as anywhere near the threat that Allgeier is to Bijan’s usage.
But I also realize that I’m out in left field compared to the masses with this take.
What you are suggesting is Bijan's utilization will drop. Even under the most hardline conservative mindset; with Kirk Cousins on board and a defensive minded HC it's tough to see a scenario where Bijan doesn't get a minimum of 250 opportunities. 250 opportunities on what will surely be a significantly improved offense. Outside of Jonathan Taylor there isn't another RB who belongs in the conversation with this group.
I’m thinking his opportunities will stay roughly the same, while I believe most folks believe he’s going to ascend to CMC usage.
I’ve seen a couple of articles suggest that, and I’m not believing it.
If I’m wrong about that I’ll regret it considering I just dealt him away.
Certainly possible. Time will tell.
Saquon may eclipse 300 touches but I don't think anyone would be surprised if he was much closer to 275.
One more point for Bijan is the Atlanta o-line also brings a ton of cohesion to the table. I love cohesion on the offensive line. Four returning starters, three first round picks, Lindstrom, Matthews and McGary and a second rounder Bergstrom. They played 14 games together last year (McGary missed 3). Bergstrom was a rookie last year but Lindstrom, Matthews & McGary have started 71 of the last 83 games together over the last five seasons.
All this is to say that I think Saquon, Bijan, Hall & Taylor are all good bets as the #2 RB off the board in any particular order.
We all get a wild hair up out ### sometimes, and that’s kind of mine this year.
Never say never. I may be sitting at 7 staring down Bijan and take him. Ya never know.
Out of curiosity, where do you have Cook? I think I'd prefer him over ETN in PPR tbh.
I like this approach but not with Cook. I don't see him as viable in rd 2 or even 3 -- even in full PPR. I'd rather have Walker for example and rd 2 may be too early for him as well as discussed above.
Not me. ETN gets the volume and won’t get pulled at the stripe, or lose RuTd to his QB
For me, I see Cook as having the 4th most rushing yards last year with only 2 rushing TDs. He has bulked up over the offseason, and they only added a relatively uninteresting 3rd round. The Bills offense saw a noticeable improvement in the second half of the season when they started to give Cook more carries. I don't see a strong alpha WR at the moment. Sure, Allen is going to take some goal line work but for how long and at the same rate as last year? I think Cook is going to be a bigger part of the Bills offense than most people seem to think.
Maybe I'm being a bit too harsh on my view of ETN but I don't have high hopes for the Jag offense. He's never really moved the needle for me beyond volume guy. I wouldn't be mad if he ended up on my team, but he doesn't move the needle for me. I'll probably be eating some crow on this one later in the season.
