Who are you targetting as your QB2? (1 Viewer)

[FUBAR]

It seems people have differing philosophies when it comes to your preferred backup QB. In 12 team leagues with short rosters, I'm not convinced you necessarily need to draft a backup. In larger leagues, you do. But then the question becomes who and when to take one?

I've found myself taking Schaub in more leagues than I'd like, but his value is extremely low and I think he can do okay. If he's backing up a good #1 QB, that should suffice.

But, if I have a QB like Brady or Romo as my #1, I'd probably shoot for upside in a backup.

If I have a guy like Peyton or Brees, I may take a safety net with a good match for their bye week as the only way I'm starting him other than bye is injury.

What say you? What is your usual plan / what do you usually end up with?

 

[cloppbeast]

Before I can decide between assurance and upside, I'd have to know my QB1.

Generally, I like to get the upside guy, but I balance both at all times. Despite Manziel exceeding Alex Smith's upside, I can think of no scenario where I pick the former.

 

[mr roboto]

Palmer or Schaub for safety net.

 

[TheCommish]

I would go for upside, too. I took Vick late last year, and even though he got hurt early on, having him on my team led me to grab Nick Foles, who was the starter for my championship team. I like Manziel or EJ Manuel as big upside guys, especially if the Browns get Gordon back for part of the season and Sammy Watkins is everything he is supposed to be.

 

[jurb26]

I'm actually targeting some of these guys as my QB1.

 

[WagesOfZin]

i tend to wait on QB and then double up and grab two guys that are right on the edge of the QB1/2 line in quick succession.

 

[FUBAR]

i tend to wait on QB and then double up and grab two guys that are right on the edge of the QB1/2 line in quick succession.

Assume you'd take at least one upside guy with this plan. Do you shoot for both upsides?

I can see a Manuel and Tannehill combo, but Tanny is at least somewhat safe. Would you risk Manuel and Manziel?

 

[Soulfly3]

Brian Hoyer.

Top 10 finish

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Im and early QB guy, I will have Peyton/brees or Rodgers as my #1 in most re-draft leagues

Current targets at QB2:

RG3

Cutler

Super late flyer - Josh McCown, I just see him having a decent season too.

 

[WagesOfZin]

i tend to wait on QB and then double up and grab two guys that are right on the edge of the QB1/2 line in quick succession.

Assume you'd take at least one upside guy with this plan. Do you shoot for both upsides?

I can see a Manuel and Tannehill combo, but Tanny is at least somewhat safe. Would you risk Manuel and Manziel?

that's waiting a bit too far to take a QB1 for my tastes. i generally aim for being the last-ish to take my QB1 and the first-ish to take my QB2. you always keep things fluid and open during a draft, but barring extenuating circumstances i generally go in with that strategy.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

i tend to wait on QB and then double up and grab two guys that are right on the edge of the QB1/2 line in quick succession.

Assume you'd take at least one upside guy with this plan. Do you shoot for both upsides?

I can see a Manuel and Tannehill combo, but Tanny is at least somewhat safe. Would you risk Manuel and Manziel?

Manuel/tanne combo? you guys trying to make the playoffs?

This isnt best ball we are talking about is it?

 

[FUBAR]

i tend to wait on QB and then double up and grab two guys that are right on the edge of the QB1/2 line in quick succession.

Assume you'd take at least one upside guy with this plan. Do you shoot for both upsides?

I can see a Manuel and Tannehill combo, but Tanny is at least somewhat safe. Would you risk Manuel and Manziel?

Manuel/tanne combo? you guys trying to make the playoffs?

This isnt best ball we are talking about is it?

in a 16 team league, I'd be happy to wait on QB and walk away with Tanny as my QB1 if there's value elsewhere and the chips fall that way. I think he's top 12 this year but is valued below QB16.

 

[ebsteelers]

Im taking Ben as the safety net/upside guy.

Top 10 qb but gets drafted as a number 2... offense should be better as long as Haley stays outta the way

 

[BroadwayG]

Smokin Jay Cutler

 

[Eminence]

big ben.

 

[Khy]

This is tough, cause Ben is one of my QB1 targets... so I voted for him. That said, I'd rather go upside QB1 if I can and safety net QB2. I.e... something like RG3 as my QB1 with Ben as my QB2. Or maybe Eli as my QB2 as all my leagues either don't penalize for INTs or only do -1 point.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Dynasty league: RGIII with Locker backing up for upside....last year for it, it seems.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Either Rodgers, Brees or Peyton.

 

[dickey moe]

I'd be happy with Ben (safety) or Cutler (upside) as my QB2.

 

[Leonidas]

I don't usually draft a second QB for a 12 team short roster league.

If I do it's because my QB1 isn't somebody I'm all that confident in.

I voted "don't need a backup" and "didn't" for the other two, but probably it would be Cutler for upside.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

i tend to wait on QB and then double up and grab two guys that are right on the edge of the QB1/2 line in quick succession.

Assume you'd take at least one upside guy with this plan. Do you shoot for both upsides?

I can see a Manuel and Tannehill combo, but Tanny is at least somewhat safe. Would you risk Manuel and Manziel?

that's waiting a bit too far to take a QB1 for my tastes. i generally aim for being the last-ish to take my QB1 and the first-ish to take my QB2. you always keep things fluid and open during a draft, but barring extenuating circumstances i generally go in with that strategy.

I don't like the "last QB1 / first QB2" strategy, as it forces you to be right twice: once in whom you draft, and then again in picking the right QB to start every week.

Most people are overconfident in their prediction ability, and I have no doubt that if the data were available, we'd see that, in general, people who face a weekly "who do I start" dilemma at QB (or TE) wind up doing no better than random chance.

Don't get me wrong: I generally wait on QB in any case, and I think it's absolutely the way to go this season in particular. But I'm doing so because I think my low-end QB1 / high-end QB2 is going to deliver mid-range QB1 numbers (Philip Rivers, anyone?) ... in which case I'm in no more of a hurry to draft a QB2 than I would be otherwise ... not because I want two borderline QB1s forcing me to agonize over my starter on a weekly basis.

 

[ldizzle]

Ill usually take upside if i even draft a qb2 in 12man. I think that if you use a high pick on a qb then qb should be your last pick before k and def if at all. Thats just me. Last year i drafted pryor and quickly traded after a few decent games. Ended up picking up foles too in fa.

 

[Zyphros]

Upside and Bradford for me. The line is great, he will have a solid run game and his WR's are going to explode this year. Really like his situation and if Britt pans out then even better for him.

 

[Adam Harstad]

I would go for upside, too. I took Vick late last year, and even though he got hurt early on, having him on my team led me to grab Nick Foles, who was the starter for my championship team. I like Manziel or EJ Manuel as big upside guys, especially if the Browns get Gordon back for part of the season and Sammy Watkins is everything he is supposed to be.

Pretty much exactly how I feel, too.

In deep leagues or dynasty leagues where I'm going to be rostering a 3rd QB, I like Glennon as a really late upside stash.

 

[Phenomena]

Big Ben is going to be the steal of the QB2 market this year. Over the last 7 weeks, Ben was QB6. That's when Pittsburgh discovered the effectiveness of the up-tempo game and ran it on 2/3rds of their possessions. Improvements at the WR position, o-line play, running game, play-calling, and Ben's health will all keep the arrow pointing upwards.

 

[BroadwayG]

Lance moore is an improvement over emmannuelle sanders?

 

[FUBAR]

Big Ben is going to be the steal of the QB2 market this year. Over the last 7 weeks, Ben was QB6. That's when Pittsburgh discovered the effectiveness of the up-tempo game and ran it on 2/3rds of their possessions. Improvements at the WR position, o-line play, running game, play-calling, and Ben's health will all keep the arrow pointing upwards.

But Wheaton should be better than he was last year.

 

[Phenomena]

Big Ben is going to be the steal of the QB2 market this year. Over the last 7 weeks, Ben was QB6. That's when Pittsburgh discovered the effectiveness of the up-tempo game and ran it on 2/3rds of their possessions. Improvements at the WR position, o-line play, running game, play-calling, and Ben's health will all keep the arrow pointing upwards.

But Wheaton should be better than he was last year.

Wheaton > Sanders, so that's a net improvement on the WR2. Don't forget about Heath Miller, either. He's been battling injuries the past two years but can be a target monster moving the chains. Le'veon Bell is also very good out of the backfield, and will improve on pass protection during his second year, potentially playing a lot more third downs.

The play-calling was the big difference, though. If they keep the up-tempo stuff going there's no way he finishes outside the top 10, and on any given week he can drop 30+. That's the best you can ask for in a QB2.

 

[ldizzle]

Big Ben is going to be the steal of the QB2 market this year. Over the last 7 weeks, Ben was QB6. That's when Pittsburgh discovered the effectiveness of the up-tempo game and ran it on 2/3rds of their possessions. Improvements at the WR position, o-line play, running game, play-calling, and Ben's health will all keep the arrow pointing upwards.

But Wheaton should be better than he was last year.

Wheaton > Sanders, so that's a net improvement on the WR2. Don't forget about Heath Miller, either. He's been battling injuries the past two years but can be a target monster moving the chains. Le'veon Bell is also very good out of the backfield, and will improve on pass protection during his second year, potentially playing a lot more third downs.

The play-calling was the big difference, though. If they keep the up-tempo stuff going there's no way he finishes outside the top 10, and on any given week he can drop 30+. That's the best you can ask for in a QB2.

i dont know if i can get on board with wheaton>sanders

 

[nastynate]

Really like Cutler in a QB friendly system, in his second year, with some very good targets.

 

[jurb26]

I'd be pretty happy to land any combo of Roethlisberger, Smith, Palmer and Tannehill this year as my QBBC.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I have Peyton Manning as my QB1 and I'll be targeting Cam Newton as my QB2. Seems Newton's stock is free-falling right now with no viable WR1 on the Panthers team.

 

[nastynate]

I have Peyton Manning as my QB1 and I'll be targeting Cam Newton as my QB2. Seems Newton's stock is free-falling right now with no viable WR1 on the Panthers team.

Still think Newton lands in the top 12, with his running ability helping to keep his floor up.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I have Peyton Manning as my QB1 and I'll be targeting Cam Newton as my QB2. Seems Newton's stock is free-falling right now with no viable WR1 on the Panthers team.

Still think Newton lands in the top 12, with his running ability helping to keep his floor up.

I do too, which is why I have no problem targeting him as my QB2 while others in my league shy away. There are other nuances to my thinking also. We just switched to include PPR in my league after 12 years of not having it and this will have folks looking at other options while Cam falls to me at decent value.

 

[ebsteelers]

I have Peyton Manning as my QB1 and I'll be targeting Cam Newton as my QB2. Seems Newton's stock is free-falling right now with no viable WR1 on the Panthers team.

so manning in 2 or 3

and cam in 7/8/9?

 

[Pickle Rody]

I have Peyton Manning as my QB1 and I'll be targeting Cam Newton as my QB2. Seems Newton's stock is free-falling right now with no viable WR1 on the Panthers team.

so manning in 2 or 3

and cam in 7/8/9?

Keeping Manning, dropping Cam....planning (hoping) to get him back later. Our 4th or 5th round, which would equal a 10th or 11th round re-draft selection.

Folks in my league are scared of him right now. Believe me, there are a number of teams that could benefit from trading for him at seriously reduced prices but they aren't biting. The reason being that he has no weapons to speak of. I think it's a mistake on those owners parts because (if I don't get him back) they will be paying more on draft day than if they traded for him now.

If re-draft, I would take Manning with any pick in the 1st round. Don't even need to think twice about that. 7th/8th for Cam. His cost may escalate between now and the draft, but I don't really see that happening.

 

[nastynate]

I have Peyton Manning as my QB1 and I'll be targeting Cam Newton as my QB2. Seems Newton's stock is free-falling right now with no viable WR1 on the Panthers team.

Still think Newton lands in the top 12, with his running ability helping to keep his floor up.

I do too, which is why I have no problem targeting him as my QB2 while others in my league shy away. There are other nuances to my thinking also. We just switched to include PPR in my league after 12 years of not having it and this will have folks looking at other options while Cam falls to me at decent value.

I was referring to one of the top 10-12 guys drafted, as in, still being drafted as a QB1 in standard leagues (and I do agree that he's likely to finish top 12).

By the time the season rolls around, I'm guessing Cam is somewhere in the 6th or 7th at worst in 12 team redraft (footballguys adp currently has him at 6.02 and QB9). Way too high for me to consider taking a backup QB in most leagues.

I like Dalton too. Nice group of targets and looks like he could be had after the 10th.