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Who Comes Out Of Nowhere To Help Win Championships? (1 Viewer)

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Last year it was Cam Akers.*

A few years before that, it was Amon-Ra St.Brown as a rookie.

Right now, who looks to be like a guy a bit off of the radar that wins a championship for a team?

Is it Isaac Guerendo? Braelon Allen? Sincere McCormick?

How about Parker Washington, Calvin Austin III or KeVontae Turpin?

Any thoughts?

*Two years ago it was Cam Akers. (Thanks, Ilov)
 
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Guerendo easily on top of this list.

Gets such a significant nod over the next guy, Allen, mainly because we don’t know how long Breece is out. Isiah Davis seems more of a threat to Allen’s upside IMO then Taylor or Abankanda is to Guerendo’s is the secondary concern.

Saying all that I got Allen squarely next.

Parker Washington could easily be a solid WR3 and pull off the Kirk role seamlessly. But typically that’s more nice production then what I think of as “league winning” type but I guess could be a league winner for teams very weak at WR but I don’t expect a lot of smash games so much as some potential for some really nice games.


I’ll throw another name out. More of a dark horse and you might only get one week out of him, and that’s no guarantee. Hollywood Brown. Ideally he’ll play in week 16 and show enough to trust using him in week 17. Lay-off and not a great matchup in week 17 are issues but I can see a scenario where Mahomes made an effort to get on the same page as him and that leading a to decent target/usage last week or so of the season.
 
Last year it was Cam Akers.

A few years before that, it was Amon-Ra St.Brown as a rookie.

Right now, who looks to be like a guy a bit off of the radar that wins a championship for a team?

Is it Isaac Guerendo? Braelon Allen? Sincere McCormick?

How about Parker Washington, Calvin Austin III or KeVontae Turpin?

Any thoughts?
Cam Akers was 2 years ago. Last year was maybe Rashee Rice.

This year sure seems like Allen or Guerendo are in prime position. I don't think it's quite coming out of nowhere but I could see Jeudy staying hot with Winston and end as top a top 5 scoring WR for the season.
 
Probably doesn't quite fit what you are looking for, as he's not a young breakout guy. but is a guy who was probably on waivers until last week. Why not Adam Thielen? Clear-cut #1 WR on a team with trailing game scripts, improving young QB, and somewhat fresh legs as he missed most of the 1st half of the season. We saw him have some really nice games with a much worse version of Bryce Young last year, and the schedule is pretty nice after Philly this week.

I've thought Jaleel McLaughlin has been the Broncos best RB since midseason last year. Was last week just a matchup-based thing, or is Sean Payton coming to that same conclusion, because if its not whack-a-mole at RB on Denver, there is RB2 value to be had. McLaughlin has 21 carries the last 2 weeks compared to 12 for Williams and 6 for Estime.

Juwan Johnson is a name I like at TE. Taysom out for the year, Olave no lock to come back. Somebody has to catch the ball, and he's had some moments in the past.

Lastly, in Superflex leagues especially, I think Cooper Rush is really interesting. He's looked decent since that Philly debacle, and has 3 bottom 6 pass defenses the next 3 weeks in Cincy, Carolina, and Tampa. Don't love Philly again in week 17, but he could help you get there.
 
Why not Adam Thielen?

Why not? Nice thought.

McLaughlin has 21 carries the last 2 weeks compared to 12 for Williams and 6 for Estime.

Nice info.

Lastly, in Superflex leagues especially, I think Cooper Rush is really interesting

Very bold. I’ve seen his schedule.

Juwan Johnson is a name I like at TE.

Rinse, repeat, disappointment with Juwan but Carr loves him and somebody needs to catch intermediate balls in NO.

Or do they?
 
Guerendo easily on top of this list.

No doubter.

Saying all that I got Allen squarely next.

Yup

Hollywood Brown. Ideally he’ll play in week 16 and show enough to trust using him in week 17. Lay-off and not a great matchup in week 17 are issues but I can see a scenario where Mahomes made an effort to get on the same page as him and that leading a to decent target/usage last week or so of the season.

This and the McLaughlin information are why I started this thread. This is very useful and something to keep in mind if you have a bye already locked down and a roster spot to burn.
 
Elijah Moore may be serviceable.

If Jameis stays in he chucks the ball all over the field and has 4 receivers capable - Jeudy, Njoku, Tillman and Elijah Moore.
 
Does Kimani Vidal have the juice to displace and old Gus Edwards and make an impact? Gus isn’t the future I wouldn’t think.
 
This is so difficult because it's always someone we didn't see coming.
Ill say a Bengals WR because we've picked up everyone not named Higgins or Chase and someone will finally finally come through
 
Does Kimani Vidal have the juice to displace and old Gus Edwards and make an impact? Gus isn’t the future I wouldn’t think.
Coach adores him.
I don't think it's possible he loses enough work until retirement or injury or something obvious
 
Does Kimani Vidal have the juice to displace and old Gus Edwards and make an impact? Gus isn’t the future I wouldn’t think.

I’m going to say yes to that, actually. I think so.

Ill say a Bengals WR because we've picked up everyone not named Higgins or Chase and someone will finally finally come through
please let it be Burton

please let it be Chase still playing when Weeks 16 and 17 come around.
 
While he is a known name (and probably not the type of name this topic was really designed for) I don't think anyone saw Jerry Jeudy becoming a big-time difference-maker but his last 3 weeks are:

6-142-1
6-85
9-235-1

He is now having elite fantasy weeks that can help carry a team...will be interesting to see if he keeps this pace up.
 
He is now having elite fantasy weeks that can help carry a team...will be interesting to see if he keeps this pace up.

FBG ran a piece addressing his exact situation. I (and others and FBG) seem to think that if Jameis Winston continues to play QB, then Jeudy can certainly keep up his floor of twelve (forget how they arrived at that number) points (like from the 6-85 game, which would be 14.5 PPR). If Dorian Thompson-Robinson is QB then I very much doubt he does.

He goes as Jameis goes. Just like many other fantasy receivers in Winston’s orbit.
 
Stacking the Billy Volek/Drew Bennett combo

For the old-timers Patrick Jeffers was a Fantasy God those last 5 weeks of 1999...sometimes I think I actually made him up...he came from nowhere, absolutely went off at the end of the season and the playoffs and then was never heard from again...I have to check Football Reference every once in a while to make sure it actually happened.
 
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Rico Dowdle.

Crap offense with no QB, but they've been feeding him 20+ touches for 2 weeks now and he's been making the most of them, and he gets some receiving work.

Only concern is Philly in championship week that he may get written out of the game script by halftime.
 
Rico Dowdle.

My first quibble. He’s not out of nowhere. He’s had a drumbeat for a while now. I still love that you took time to answer. Shows love. So I loved back.

Hopefully that Raiders back whom I never heard of before last night and now my entire fantasy season rests on his shoulders.

FYLGE

FYLGE? Yes, fylge, pronounced “filj". From your lips to God’s ears.

Stop trying to make fylge happen, rock.
 
Last year it was Cam Akers.*

A few years before that, it was Amon-Ra St.Brown as a rookie.

Right now, who looks to be like a guy a bit off of the radar that wins a championship for a team?

Is it Isaac Guerendo? Braelon Allen? Sincere McCormick?

How about Parker Washington, Calvin Austin III or KeVontae Turpin?

Any thoughts?

*Two years ago it was Cam Akers. (Thanks, Ilov)
These suggestions still seem strongest.
 
Last year it was Cam Akers.*

A few years before that, it was Amon-Ra St.Brown as a rookie.

Right now, who looks to be like a guy a bit off of the radar that wins a championship for a team?

Is it Isaac Guerendo? Braelon Allen? Sincere McCormick?

How about Parker Washington, Calvin Austin III or KeVontae Turpin?

Any thoughts?

*Two years ago it was Cam Akers. (Thanks, Ilov)
I would like to hear your thoughts on Braelon Allen. I am extremely bearish on him, but I own him in dynasty, and currently have him on the trade block. You have seen him more than I, so maybe the eye test is better than his numbers.
 
Last year it was Cam Akers.*

A few years before that, it was Amon-Ra St.Brown as a rookie.

Right now, who looks to be like a guy a bit off of the radar that wins a championship for a team?

Is it Isaac Guerendo? Braelon Allen? Sincere McCormick?

How about Parker Washington, Calvin Austin III or KeVontae Turpin?

Any thoughts?

*Two years ago it was Cam Akers. (Thanks, Ilov)
I would like to hear your thoughts on Braelon Allen. I am extremely bearish on him, but I own him in dynasty, and currently have him on the trade block. You have seen him more than I, so maybe the eye test is better than his numbers.

I think you likely know I’m a Jets homer, and I’m only saying that so everybody reading this knows. But my glasses aren’t rose-colored, so maybe I can give an honest assessment. The Jets have one of the most underutilized strengths in the NFL positionally in their backfield. Hall is a world-class runner. Allen is dynamic. Davis is pretty good. Abanikanda was immediately snatched up by the 49ers upon his release (who knows what the acting GM was thinking). But they haven’t put up great numbers. Why? Their line and Rodgers. Their line is mediocre at best. They’re old for the most part, and they don’t seem to get off the ball that well. Rodgers hasn’t been a threat to throw deep (because of the line and his arm) all year. I mean, they don’t throw deep at all and it leaves eight guys in the box. So the running game has suffered to a man positionally and somewhat drastically.

Even if we compare the backs to each other, expecting a twenty year-old rookie (21 now?) in Braelon Allen to match Breece Hall's numbers is probably not wise. Yes, they’re behind the same line, but you’re talking about a guy in Hall who has proven to be ultra explosive at the NFL level—a guy who essentially seized a starting job within three or four games in the league and hasn’t looked back but for injury. That doesn’t happen all that often. Hall was special in college, special at the combine, and special on the professional field.

So in thinking about Allen's numbers compared to Hall you have to take into account the poor-to-mediocre line, Rodgers, Allen's age, and Allen’s potential development. I think he’s going to be a very good runner in the NFL. He can catch. I think he’s the kind of back that needs to be a starter to be really effective. One who starts to wear teams down with his physical play and size as the game goes on and guys aren’t so fond of getting in a car wreck situation. I mean, one can see the scouting flaws. Maybe he doesn’t play totally to size (although I think he does). That he might dance a little (I haven’t really seen that, either). He might not have long speed like Hall. But he’s good. I think very good.

So yeah, I’m actually bullish on Allen’s career. But the situation with the Jets behind Hall is suboptimal. We’ve hashed out the contract situation in another thread here. I forget which guy’s thread. I think it’s in Allen’s thread. But I think he’s a lot better than the numbers have shown.

I’d watch today. See what you think of him. But don’t throw him away for peanuts. You might rue that if you do so.

Best of luck.
 
Last year it was Cam Akers.*

A few years before that, it was Amon-Ra St.Brown as a rookie.

Right now, who looks to be like a guy a bit off of the radar that wins a championship for a team?

Is it Isaac Guerendo? Braelon Allen? Sincere McCormick?

How about Parker Washington, Calvin Austin III or KeVontae Turpin?

Any thoughts?

*Two years ago it was Cam Akers. (Thanks, Ilov)
I would like to hear your thoughts on Braelon Allen. I am extremely bearish on him, but I own him in dynasty, and currently have him on the trade block. You have seen him more than I, so maybe the eye test is better than his numbers.

I think you likely know I’m a Jets homer, and I’m only saying that so everybody reading this knows. But my glasses aren’t rose-colored, so maybe I can give an honest assessment. The Jets have one of the most underutilized strengths in the NFL positionally in their backfield. Hall is a world-class runner. Allen is dynamic. Davis is pretty good. Abanikanda was immediately snatched up by the 49ers upon his release (who knows what the acting GM was thinking). But they haven’t put up great numbers. Why? Their line and Rodgers. Their line is mediocre at best. They’re old for the most part, and they don’t seem to get off the ball that well. Rodgers hasn’t been a threat to throw deep (because of the line and his arm) all year. I mean, they don’t throw deep at all and it leaves eight guys in the box. So the running game has suffered to a man positionally and somewhat drastically.

Even if we compare the backs to each other, expecting a twenty year-old rookie (21 now?) in Braelon Allen to match Breece Hall's numbers is probably not wise. Yes, they’re behind the same line, but you’re talking about a guy in Hall who has proven to be ultra explosive at the NFL level—a guy who essentially seized a starting job within three or four games in the league and hasn’t looked back but for injury. That doesn’t happen all that often. Hall was special in college, special at the combine, and special on the professional field.

So in thinking about Allen's numbers compared to Hall you have to take into account the poor-to-mediocre line, Rodgers, Allen's age, and Allen’s potential development. I think he’s going to be a very good runner in the NFL. He can catch. I think he’s the kind of back that needs to be a starter to be really effective. One who starts to wear teams down with his physical play and size as the game goes on and guys aren’t so fond of getting in a car wreck situation. I mean, one can see the scouting flaws. Maybe he doesn’t play totally to size (although I think he does). That he might dance a little (I haven’t really seen that, either). He might not have long speed like Hall. But he’s good. I think very good.

So yeah, I’m actually bullish on Allen’s career. But the situation with the Jets behind Hall is suboptimal. We’ve hashed out the contract situation in another thread here. I forget which guy’s thread. I think it’s in Allen’s thread. But I think he’s a lot better than the numbers have shown.

I’d watch today. See what you think of him. But don’t throw him away for peanuts. You might rue that if you do so.

Best of luck.
I appreciate the analysis and will certainly heed the advice.
 
Guerendo easily on top of this list.

Gets such a significant nod over the next guy, Allen, mainly because we don’t know how long Breece is out. Isiah Davis seems more of a threat to Allen’s upside IMO then Taylor or Abankanda is to Guerendo’s is the secondary concern.

Saying all that I got Allen squarely next.

Parker Washington could easily be a solid WR3 and pull off the Kirk role seamlessly. But typically that’s more nice production then what I think of as “league winning” type but I guess could be a league winner for teams very weak at WR but I don’t expect a lot of smash games so much as some potential for some really nice games.


I’ll throw another name out. More of a dark horse and you might only get one week out of him, and that’s no guarantee. Hollywood Brown. Ideally he’ll play in week 16 and show enough to trust using him in week 17. Lay-off and not a great matchup in week 17 are issues but I can see a scenario where Mahomes made an effort to get on the same page as him and that leading a to decent target/usage last week or so of the season.
Great thought. Went to pick him up in the FBG Bowl. Already rostered.
 
Jerry Jeudy and Jordan Addison have put some of my middling best ball teams into contention for advancement. I bought the adp dip for both in drafts this summer.
 
Sincere McCormick.

Got all the touches yesterday. Can catch too.

Outstanding Schedule: ATL, JAX, @No.

Could do what Z. White did down the stretch last year.

At this point, I don't see why A. Pierce would play A. Mattison or Z. White at this point. Why bother?

Ridder a downgrade, but I'm not sure you can downgrade that passing game that much from O'Connell.
 
I’ll throw another name out. More of a dark horse and you might only get one week out of him, and that’s no guarantee. Hollywood Brown. Ideally he’ll play in week 16 and show enough to trust using him in week 17. Lay-off and not a great matchup in week 17 are issues but I can see a scenario where Mahomes made an effort to get on the same page as him and that leading a to decent target/usage last week or so of the season.
I would say no to this.

The Chiefs can't protect Mahomes at all. I don't see any of their receivers really making a huge impact other than the occasional TD.
 
I’ll throw another name out. More of a dark horse and you might only get one week out of him, and that’s no guarantee. Hollywood Brown. Ideally he’ll play in week 16 and show enough to trust using him in week 17. Lay-off and not a great matchup in week 17 are issues but I can see a scenario where Mahomes made an effort to get on the same page as him and that leading a to decent target/usage last week or so of the season.
I would say no to this.

The Chiefs can't protect Mahomes at all. I don't see any of their receivers really making a huge impact other than the occasional TD.
If one did, Noah gray is a prime candidate.
 

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