Who else is convinced the Colts draft either WR or RB at #27? (1 Viewer)

[millertyme1]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

Mayock obviously watched Addai run last year. They've got to address the position to split the load. I think it's a fair question whether to get Addai's replacement (a Donald Brown or if one of the other 2 RB's fall) or get a between the tackles pounder later/FA. The thing with Addai is he doesn't play fast enough to warrant a CoP role and isn't a good between the tackles guy as a continues to audtion for Dancing with the Stars behind the line.At some point you've got to look at the ~3.5 ypc over the past 20+ games & think he's just not that good. I'd snatch Moreno/Wells in a heartbeat. Perhaps Donald Brown (toss up on him or fill another need)

 

[djcolts]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

Mayock obviously watched Addai run last year. They've got to address the position to split the load. I think it's a fair question whether to get Addai's replacement (a Donald Brown or if one of the other 2 RB's fall) or get a between the tackles pounder later/FA. The thing with Addai is he doesn't play fast enough to warrant a CoP role and isn't a good between the tackles guy as a continues to audtion for Dancing with the Stars behind the line.

At some point you've got to look at the ~3.5 ypc over the past 20+ games & think he's just not that good. I'd snatch Moreno/Wells in a heartbeat. Perhaps Donald Brown (toss up on him or fill another need)

More accurately - he said they'd take Moreno at #27. OK - but Moreno isn't going to be there at #27. Wells isn't likely going to be there, either - and I don't know if Wells is a fit for the Colts offense. Are they going to take Donald Brown at #27? I hope not - they can get a complementary back in round 3 or 4.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

Mayock obviously watched Addai run last year. They've got to address the position to split the load. I think it's a fair question whether to get Addai's replacement (a Donald Brown or if one of the other 2 RB's fall) or get a between the tackles pounder later/FA. The thing with Addai is he doesn't play fast enough to warrant a CoP role and isn't a good between the tackles guy as a continues to audtion for Dancing with the Stars behind the line.

At some point you've got to look at the ~3.5 ypc over the past 20+ games & think he's just not that good. I'd snatch Moreno/Wells in a heartbeat. Perhaps Donald Brown (toss up on him or fill another need)

More accurately - he said they'd take Moreno at #27. OK - but Moreno isn't going to be there at #27. Wells isn't likely going to be there, either - and I don't know if Wells is a fit for the Colts offense. Are they going to take Donald Brown at #27? I hope not - they can get a complementary back in round 3 or 4.

I would prefer they get a real back not a complementary one. Addai doesn't cut the mustard. LeSean McCoy would be perfect fit for the Colts.

 

[djcolts]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

Mayock obviously watched Addai run last year. They've got to address the position to split the load. I think it's a fair question whether to get Addai's replacement (a Donald Brown or if one of the other 2 RB's fall) or get a between the tackles pounder later/FA. The thing with Addai is he doesn't play fast enough to warrant a CoP role and isn't a good between the tackles guy as a continues to audtion for Dancing with the Stars behind the line.

At some point you've got to look at the ~3.5 ypc over the past 20+ games & think he's just not that good. I'd snatch Moreno/Wells in a heartbeat. Perhaps Donald Brown (toss up on him or fill another need)

More accurately - he said they'd take Moreno at #27. OK - but Moreno isn't going to be there at #27. Wells isn't likely going to be there, either - and I don't know if Wells is a fit for the Colts offense. Are they going to take Donald Brown at #27? I hope not - they can get a complementary back in round 3 or 4.

I would prefer they get a real back not a complementary one. Addai doesn't cut the mustard. LeSean McCoy would be perfect fit for the Colts.

There have been plenty of backs recently that have been very good players from round 3 and 4. Marion Barber was a 4th round pick. Frank Gore was a 3rd round pick. Brandon Jacobs? Derrick Ward? McClain from Baltimore?I don't want to reach for a 2nd round talent at RB in round 1 (or, basically - I don't want to draft a 2nd round talent in round 1 for any position - even DT). If Moreno is there at #27 - that's one thing. Wells - I'm not sure. Any other RB - no.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Massaquia...or however you spell that Georgia WRs name. He's a perfect replacement for Harrison. I think they'd rather have 3 very solid WRs to pair with Peyton than a backup for Addai that starts maybe 4-5 games a year.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

Mayock obviously watched Addai run last year. They've got to address the position to split the load. I think it's a fair question whether to get Addai's replacement (a Donald Brown or if one of the other 2 RB's fall) or get a between the tackles pounder later/FA. The thing with Addai is he doesn't play fast enough to warrant a CoP role and isn't a good between the tackles guy as a continues to audtion for Dancing with the Stars behind the line.

At some point you've got to look at the ~3.5 ypc over the past 20+ games & think he's just not that good. I'd snatch Moreno/Wells in a heartbeat. Perhaps Donald Brown (toss up on him or fill another need)

More accurately - he said they'd take Moreno at #27. OK - but Moreno isn't going to be there at #27. Wells isn't likely going to be there, either - and I don't know if Wells is a fit for the Colts offense. Are they going to take Donald Brown at #27? I hope not - they can get a complementary back in round 3 or 4.

I would prefer they get a real back not a complementary one. Addai doesn't cut the mustard. LeSean McCoy would be perfect fit for the Colts.

There have been plenty of backs recently that have been very good players from round 3 and 4. Marion Barber was a 4th round pick. Frank Gore was a 3rd round pick. Brandon Jacobs? Derrick Ward? McClain from Baltimore?I don't want to reach for a 2nd round talent at RB in round 1 (or, basically - I don't want to draft a 2nd round talent in round 1 for any position - even DT). If Moreno is there at #27 - that's one thing. Wells - I'm not sure. Any other RB - no.

McCoy might just be better than Moreno

 

[switz]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

He's wrong... unless he's thinking they'll take one in the 5th-7th rounds.First, this class is very weak at RB.Second, the team has far more pressing needs.Third, the team still believes Addai is the perfect back for their team.

 

[djcolts]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

He's wrong... unless he's thinking they'll take one in the 5th-7th rounds.First, this class is very weak at RB.Second, the team has far more pressing needs.Third, the team still believes Addai is the perfect back for their team.

They don't have a #2 back right now. I don't see how one can be comfy with an injured Mike Hart - or Lance Ball - or Chad Simpson as the #2 back. Every team needs a good #2 back these days. RB is a need in this draft - not the top need, but definitely a need.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

He's wrong... unless he's thinking they'll take one in the 5th-7th rounds.First, this class is very weak at RB.

Second, the team has far more pressing needs.

Third, the team still believes Addai is the perfect back for their team.

As a Colts homer I say you're incorrect on the third point. You could see it by the way they used him last year.ETA: I completely forgort that you have man-love for Addai.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

He's wrong... unless he's thinking they'll take one in the 5th-7th rounds.First, this class is very weak at RB.

Second, the team has far more pressing needs.

Third, the team still believes Addai is the perfect back for their team.

As a Colts homer I say you're incorrect on the third point. You could see it by the way they used him last year.ETA: I completely forgort that you have man-love for Addai.

he was pretty banged up last year and seemed to be kinda wussy like. But with Rhodes gone, unless they do pick a RB on day1 or sign Edge back I think he's (Addai) going to rebound nicely.

 

[travdogg]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

He's wrong... unless he's thinking they'll take one in the 5th-7th rounds.First, this class is very weak at RB.

Second, the team has far more pressing needs.

Third, the team still believes Addai is the perfect back for their team.

As a Colts homer I say you're incorrect on the third point. You could see it by the way they used him last year.ETA: I completely forgort that you have man-love for Addai.

he was pretty banged up last year and seemed to be kinda wussy like. But with Rhodes gone, unless they do pick a RB on day1 or sign Edge back I think he's (Addai) going to rebound nicely.

I'm been convinced that this will happen since about November. Just makes perfect sense for everyone involved.As for the 27 pick, I'd be surprised if they took a RB or aWR. They just don't have that big of a need at either position. Depth would be nice, but not in round 1. Maybe rounds 3-4 but not round 1.

I think they'll go defense with an outside shot at a guy like Eben Britton if he falls that far.

 

[BringItOn]

I would be surprised if Edge comes back.. especially now given the mother of his kids is gone... It wouldn't shock me to see him retire now.. though anything is possible.

 

[switz]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

He's wrong... unless he's thinking they'll take one in the 5th-7th rounds.First, this class is very weak at RB.

Second, the team has far more pressing needs.

Third, the team still believes Addai is the perfect back for their team.

As a Colts homer I say you're incorrect on the third point. You could see it by the way they used him last year.ETA: I completely forgort that you have man-love for Addai.

It has nothing to do with my personal opinion of Addai.Everything I've heard from the Colts, and read from the press indicates that the Colts feel Addai's health (coupled with OL struggles) last year was the reason for his less-than-stellar performance. They feel he is back in shape for this season, and that he is still the #1 RB. They do not see him as injury prone. They don't feel that Hart/Bell are good enough if Addai were to get injured again, and may target a RB in rounds 4-7. However, they do not feel that they need to replace Addai, and showed no interest in resigning Rhodes who felt after last season he should compete for the starting role.

For what it's worth, they would be willing to bring Edge back when he is ready to retire, for him to retire as a Colt, but they don't want him to come to the team expecting to start or play a significant role. Therefore it's doubtful he's in a Colt's uniform anytime soon.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

He's wrong... unless he's thinking they'll take one in the 5th-7th rounds.First, this class is very weak at RB.

Second, the team has far more pressing needs.

Third, the team still believes Addai is the perfect back for their team.

As a Colts homer I say you're incorrect on the third point. You could see it by the way they used him last year.ETA: I completely forgort that you have man-love for Addai.

It has nothing to do with my personal opinion of Addai.Everything I've heard from the Colts, and read from the press indicates that the Colts feel Addai's health (coupled with OL struggles) last year was the reason for his less-than-stellar performance. They feel he is back in shape for this season, and that he is still the #1 RB. They do not see him as injury prone. They don't feel that Hart/Bell are good enough if Addai were to get injured again, and may target a RB in rounds 4-7. However, they do not feel that they need to replace Addai, and showed no interest in resigning Rhodes who felt after last season he should compete for the starting role.

For what it's worth, they would be willing to bring Edge back when he is ready to retire, for him to retire as a Colt, but they don't want him to come to the team expecting to start or play a significant role. Therefore it's doubtful he's in a Colt's uniform anytime soon.

Sorry, but I'm going to need a link to this information rather than take your word for it.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Mike Mayock believes they will take a RB.

He's wrong... unless he's thinking they'll take one in the 5th-7th rounds.First, this class is very weak at RB.

Second, the team has far more pressing needs.

Third, the team still believes Addai is the perfect back for their team.

As a Colts homer I say you're incorrect on the third point. You could see it by the way they used him last year.ETA: I completely forgort that you have man-love for Addai.

It has nothing to do with my personal opinion of Addai.Everything I've heard from the Colts, and read from the press indicates that the Colts feel Addai's health (coupled with OL struggles) last year was the reason for his less-than-stellar performance. They feel he is back in shape for this season, and that he is still the #1 RB. They do not see him as injury prone. They don't feel that Hart/Bell are good enough if Addai were to get injured again, and may target a RB in rounds 4-7. However, they do not feel that they need to replace Addai, and showed no interest in resigning Rhodes who felt after last season he should compete for the starting role.

For what it's worth, they would be willing to bring Edge back when he is ready to retire, for him to retire as a Colt, but they don't want him to come to the team expecting to start or play a significant role. Therefore it's doubtful he's in a Colt's uniform anytime soon.

Sorry, but I'm going to need a link to this information rather than take your word for it.

BigNerd wrote it so it's true.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

BigNerd wrote it so it's true.

Is this necessary? Just because I posted something about Crabtree that someone posted on a message board and I happened to think it was a good read, doesn't mean you need to use it here.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I would be surprised if Edge comes back.. especially now given the mother of his kids is gone... It wouldn't shock me to see him retire now.. though anything is possible.

he might need the cash.To me for the colts the thing that would make the most sense would be to bring him back as a backup/insurance policy.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I would be surprised if Edge comes back.. especially now given the mother of his kids is gone... It wouldn't shock me to see him retire now.. though anything is possible.

he might need the cash.To me for the colts the thing that would make the most sense would be to bring him back as a backup/insurance policy.

Yeah, if he's willing to be a good soldier and accept his minor role.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I would be surprised if Edge comes back.. especially now given the mother of his kids is gone... It wouldn't shock me to see him retire now.. though anything is possible.

he might need the cash.To me for the colts the thing that would make the most sense would be to bring him back as a backup/insurance policy.

Yeah, if he's willing to be a good soldier and accept his minor role.

could it be any less than what he did in Arz last year? He's a vet RB at the end of the road.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I would be surprised if Edge comes back.. especially now given the mother of his kids is gone... It wouldn't shock me to see him retire now.. though anything is possible.

he might need the cash.To me for the colts the thing that would make the most sense would be to bring him back as a backup/insurance policy.

Yeah, if he's willing to be a good soldier and accept his minor role.

could it be any less than what he did in Arz last year? He's a vet RB at the end of the road.

I agree with Switz in that I don't think the Colts view Edge as having a significant role with the team, but he could come back to the Colts to retire.

 

[Multiple Scores]

I would be surprised if Edge comes back.. especially now given the mother of his kids is gone... It wouldn't shock me to see him retire now.. though anything is possible.

he might need the cash.To me for the colts the thing that would make the most sense would be to bring him back as a backup/insurance policy.

Yeah, if he's willing to be a good soldier and accept his minor role.

You are forgetting the deciding factor here.

 

[BringItOn]

I would be surprised if Edge comes back.. especially now given the mother of his kids is gone... It wouldn't shock me to see him retire now.. though anything is possible.

he might need the cash.To me for the colts the thing that would make the most sense would be to bring him back as a backup/insurance policy.

Yeah, if he's willing to be a good soldier and accept his minor role.

could it be any less than what he did in Arz last year? He's a vet RB at the end of the road.

This is true.. he could take the opportunity to get one last contract to help set these kids up. Does anyone know where he (and more importantly those kids) reside full time? That could have a bearing on where he goes. I couldn't see him uprooting them after what they are going through right now losing thier mother.He has been more than willing to take the backseat... I seem to recall seeing quotes from him last season about encouraging the younger kids to come in at the goal-line, etc. Said he welcomed it as it would help keep him fresh, and help extend his career..

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I would be surprised if Edge comes back.. especially now given the mother of his kids is gone... It wouldn't shock me to see him retire now.. though anything is possible.

he might need the cash.To me for the colts the thing that would make the most sense would be to bring him back as a backup/insurance policy.

Yeah, if he's willing to be a good soldier and accept his minor role.

You are forgetting the deciding factor here.

Hell, if he's still got it, he's probably better than Addai. I would love to see a decent RB fall to them somwhere in the draft.

 

[switz]

Everything I've heard from the Colts, and read from the press indicates that the Colts feel Addai's health (coupled with OL struggles) last year was the reason for his less-than-stellar performance. They feel he is back in shape for this season, and that he is still the #1 RB. They do not see him as injury prone. They don't feel that Hart/Bell are good enough if Addai were to get injured again, and may target a RB in rounds 4-7. However, they do not feel that they need to replace Addai, and showed no interest in resigning Rhodes who felt after last season he should compete for the starting role.

Sorry, but I'm going to need a link to this information rather than take your word for it.

I completely respect that.

 

[djcolts]

This would be a great draft for the Colts

Jerry in the 1st, McCoy in the 2nd, WR Dillard in the 3rd? Wow - please let this happen!

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

This would be a great draft for the Colts

Jerry in the 1st, McCoy in the 2nd, WR Dillard in the 3rd? Wow - please let this happen!

I don't think the Colts are interested in Jerry. Replace him with Hood and I'm on board.

 

[djcolts]

This would be a great draft for the Colts

Jerry in the 1st, McCoy in the 2nd, WR Dillard in the 3rd? Wow - please let this happen!

I don't think the Colts are interested in Jerry. Replace him with Hood and I'm on board.

I'll take that, too.

 

[TheFanatic]

Something one has to realize here about the Colts RB. His first priority is to keep Peyton upright. If he can't pick up the blitz he is not going to be on the field. Being able to pick up the blitz will improve him as a runner as in the Colts ability to stretch the field will allow the RB more room when he does carry the ball. Also, the RB needs to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. More weapons for Peyton. Oh, and if he is a decent runner, that's good too.

Addai has all of those things. He's a decent runner, excellent receiver and picks up the blitz. Everyone looks at his YPC and think that it is a big need to fill that hole. I don't think the Colts feel the same way.

 

[djcolts]

Something one has to realize here about the Colts RB. His first priority is to keep Peyton upright. If he can't pick up the blitz he is not going to be on the field. Being able to pick up the blitz will improve him as a runner as in the Colts ability to stretch the field will allow the RB more room when he does carry the ball. Also, the RB needs to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. More weapons for Peyton. Oh, and if he is a decent runner, that's good too. Addai has all of those things. He's a decent runner, excellent receiver and picks up the blitz. Everyone looks at his YPC and think that it is a big need to fill that hole. I don't think the Colts feel the same way.

Chad Simpson. Lance Ball. Mike Hart coming off of major knee surgery. Do these names sound like RBs you'd want to start an NFL game if/when Addai gets hurt?

 

[switz]

Something one has to realize here about the Colts RB. His first priority is to keep Peyton upright. If he can't pick up the blitz he is not going to be on the field. Being able to pick up the blitz will improve him as a runner as in the Colts ability to stretch the field will allow the RB more room when he does carry the ball. Also, the RB needs to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. More weapons for Peyton. Oh, and if he is a decent runner, that's good too. Addai has all of those things. He's a decent runner, excellent receiver and picks up the blitz. Everyone looks at his YPC and think that it is a big need to fill that hole. I don't think the Colts feel the same way.

Chad Simpson. Lance Ball. Mike Hart coming off of major knee surgery. Do these names sound like RBs you'd want to start an NFL game if/when Addai gets hurt?

Maybe not, but the same could be asked about ANY of the RBs in this draft. Moreno is the best prospect for the Colts, but he will be gone before they pick an RB.

 

[TheFanatic]

Something one has to realize here about the Colts RB. His first priority is to keep Peyton upright. If he can't pick up the blitz he is not going to be on the field. Being able to pick up the blitz will improve him as a runner as in the Colts ability to stretch the field will allow the RB more room when he does carry the ball. Also, the RB needs to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. More weapons for Peyton. Oh, and if he is a decent runner, that's good too. Addai has all of those things. He's a decent runner, excellent receiver and picks up the blitz. Everyone looks at his YPC and think that it is a big need to fill that hole. I don't think the Colts feel the same way.

Chad Simpson. Lance Ball. Mike Hart coming off of major knee surgery. Do these names sound like RBs you'd want to start an NFL game if/when Addai gets hurt?

I agree completely. But that doesn't mean that they draft a guy in the 1st or 2nd to fill the backup role.

 

[EBF]

Something one has to realize here about the Colts RB. His first priority is to keep Peyton upright. If he can't pick up the blitz he is not going to be on the field. Being able to pick up the blitz will improve him as a runner as in the Colts ability to stretch the field will allow the RB more room when he does carry the ball. Also, the RB needs to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. More weapons for Peyton. Oh, and if he is a decent runner, that's good too. Addai has all of those things. He's a decent runner, excellent receiver and picks up the blitz. Everyone looks at his YPC and think that it is a big need to fill that hole. I don't think the Colts feel the same way.

Chad Simpson. Lance Ball. Mike Hart coming off of major knee surgery. Do these names sound like RBs you'd want to start an NFL game if/when Addai gets hurt?

Maybe not, but the same could be asked about ANY of the RBs in this draft. Moreno is the best prospect for the Colts, but he will be gone before they pick an RB.

Take off the Addai goggles. The Colts have a pretty bare cupboard at RB. I think it's unlikely that they'll grab one in the first, but Donald Brown could be a possibility. They could also grab someone like McCoy or Peerman in the rounds 2-3 range. Any one of those guys could conceivably eat into Addai's value.

 

[switz]

Something one has to realize here about the Colts RB. His first priority is to keep Peyton upright. If he can't pick up the blitz he is not going to be on the field. Being able to pick up the blitz will improve him as a runner as in the Colts ability to stretch the field will allow the RB more room when he does carry the ball. Also, the RB needs to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. More weapons for Peyton. Oh, and if he is a decent runner, that's good too. Addai has all of those things. He's a decent runner, excellent receiver and picks up the blitz. Everyone looks at his YPC and think that it is a big need to fill that hole. I don't think the Colts feel the same way.

Chad Simpson. Lance Ball. Mike Hart coming off of major knee surgery. Do these names sound like RBs you'd want to start an NFL game if/when Addai gets hurt?

Maybe not, but the same could be asked about ANY of the RBs in this draft. Moreno is the best prospect for the Colts, but he will be gone before they pick an RB.

Take off the Addai goggles. The Colts have a pretty bare cupboard at RB. I think it's unlikely that they'll grab one in the first, but Donald Brown could be a possibility. They could also grab someone like McCoy or Peerman in the rounds 2-3 range. Any one of those guys could conceivably eat into Addai's value.

EBF, try not to make things so personal. Re-read my post. What in my post had ANYTHING to do with Addai? I merely stated that none of the RBs in this year's draft present any more than what the Colts have as their backups right now. This is widely viewed as a very poor RB draft. Moreno has all the skills to a degree, but isn't great in any area. Wells is injury prone, and some teams have written them off their board. McCoy, it shocks me to see the hype around here for him. Brown? Honestly, I can see the Colts grabbing the kid from Liberty later in the draft, but there's nothing in this draft better than what they have.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Something one has to realize here about the Colts RB. His first priority is to keep Peyton upright. If he can't pick up the blitz he is not going to be on the field. Being able to pick up the blitz will improve him as a runner as in the Colts ability to stretch the field will allow the RB more room when he does carry the ball. Also, the RB needs to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. More weapons for Peyton. Oh, and if he is a decent runner, that's good too.

Addai has all of those things. He's a decent runner, excellent receiver and picks up the blitz. Everyone looks at his YPC and think that it is a big need to fill that hole. I don't think the Colts feel the same way.

Chad Simpson. Lance Ball. Mike Hart coming off of major knee surgery. Do these names sound like RBs you'd want to start an NFL game if/when Addai gets hurt?

Maybe not, but the same could be asked about ANY of the RBs in this draft. Moreno is the best prospect for the Colts, but he will be gone before they pick an RB.

Take off the Addai goggles. The Colts have a pretty bare cupboard at RB. I think it's unlikely that they'll grab one in the first, but Donald Brown could be a possibility. They could also grab someone like McCoy or Peerman in the rounds 2-3 range. Any one of those guys could conceivably eat into Addai's value.

EBF, try not to make things so personal. Re-read my post. What in my post had ANYTHING to do with Addai? I merely stated that none of the RBs in this year's draft present any more than what the Colts have as their backups right now. This is widely viewed as a very poor RB draft. Moreno has all the skills to a degree, but isn't great in any area. Wells is injury prone, and some teams have written them off their board. McCoy, it shocks me to see the hype around here for him. Brown? Honestly, I can see the Colts grabbing the kid from Liberty later in the draft, but there's nothing in this draft better than what they have.

OMG, now that has to be Surely you don't mean that. Leaving off Moreno because you said he wouldn't be there. So, you're saying that Simpson and Hart are just as good as Wells, McCoy, Donald and Andre Brown?

 

[switz]

I merely stated that none of the RBs in this year's draft present any more than what the Colts have as their backups right now. This is widely viewed as a very poor RB draft. ... Honestly, I can see the Colts grabbing the kid from Liberty later in the draft, but there's nothing in this draft better than what they have.

OMG, now that has to be Surely you don't mean that. Leaving off Moreno because you said he wouldn't be there. So, you're saying that Simpson and Hart are just as good as Wells, McCoy, Donald and Andre Brown?

Hart is... Wells would be better if he wasn't so prone to injury. I'll be surprised if Wells makes it through two or three seasons in the NFL. The rest of these backs are not that great. Ask any NFL scout and they'll tell you that this is an awful class of RBs, not a blue among them. Most will be change of pace, at best, RBs. Realistically, they'll be backups who don't touch the field.Sure, Moreno and Wells will likely go in the first. Moreno will probably have a decent career. The rest will be forgotten pretty quickly.

In my dynasty drafts I won't touch an RB from this draft outside Moreno in the first round.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I merely stated that none of the RBs in this year's draft present any more than what the Colts have as their backups right now. This is widely viewed as a very poor RB draft. ... Honestly, I can see the Colts grabbing the kid from Liberty later in the draft, but there's nothing in this draft better than what they have.

OMG, now that has to be Surely you don't mean that. Leaving off Moreno because you said he wouldn't be there. So, you're saying that Simpson and Hart are just as good as Wells, McCoy, Donald and Andre Brown?

Hart is... Wells would be better if he wasn't so prone to injury. I'll be surprised if Wells makes it through two or three seasons in the NFL. The rest of these backs are not that great. Ask any NFL scout and they'll tell you that this is an awful class of RBs, not a blue among them. Most will be change of pace, at best, RBs. Realistically, they'll be backups who don't touch the field.Sure, Moreno and Wells will likely go in the first. Moreno will probably have a decent career. The rest will be forgotten pretty quickly.

In my dynasty drafts I won't touch an RB from this draft outside Moreno in the first round.

I agree that it isn't a strong draft for RBs, but what they have on their roster is trash, especially what's behind Addai. I can see 3 or 4 RBs from this draft have decent careers, and certainly better than Mike "freaking" Hart, who was a late round draft grade himself. I'm so flabbergasted by your comments I can't even comment on them any further.

 

[switz]

I agree that it isn't a strong draft for RBs, but what they have on their roster is trash, especially what's behind Addai. I can see 3 or 4 RBs from this draft have decent careers, and certainly better than Mike "freaking" Hart, who was a late round draft grade himself. I'm so flabbergasted by your comments I can't even comment on them any further.

Hart was only a later round grade last year because last year's draft was rich with RBs, and he had some injury issues (which look legitimate). This year's draft is so weak at RB that some of these guys are getting graded much much higher than they should be.How would these guys rate if they were all in the same class?

McFadden

Mendenhall

Stewart

Wells

Moreno

F.Jones

C.Johnson

J.Charles

Rice

K.Smith

Slaton

McCoy

Forte

Choice

Hart

D.Brown

A.Brown

Forsett

S.Greene

As for whether you or I think the Colts RBs are "good enough", it doesn't matter. What matters is what the Colts think. Both the articles below were penned by a guy I know who has extremely good ties with the Colts, he even used to work for them.

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In retrospect, perhaps it shouldn't be surprising the Colts decided to part ways with Rhodes. Colts Head Coach Jim Caldwell and Colts President Bill Polian each have said in recent weeks they like the trio of second-year backs more than the public might realize, and there is also speculation the Colts will draft a running back next weekend.

Indianapolis Colts 2009 NFL Draft: Running back

At first glance, this is an area of need, and some national writers have the Colts selecting a running back in the first round. But even though the names are mostly unfamiliar behind Addai, the Colts like their depth at the position. Overall, this position wasn't as productive as in past seasons, with the Colts finishing last in the NFL in rushing, but Colts Head Coach Tony Dungy throughout last season said the struggles in the running game were about more than one position.

 

[EBF]

Mike Hart was the 36th pick in the 6th round last year.

It's absurd to suggest that the backups on Indy's roster are better than everyone in this draft outside of Wells and Moreno. There are probably 8-10 other guys available who could beat out Hart, Simpson, and Ball.

 

[djcolts]

What in the world do you expect the Colts to say publicly about their backs? "Gee - they are terrible - we are surely going to draft a RB early?" Of course not.

 

[switz]

Mike Hart was the 36th pick in the 6th round last year.

It's absurd to suggest that the backups on Indy's roster are better than everyone in this draft outside of Wells and Moreno. There are probably 8-10 other guys available who could beat out Hart, Simpson, and Ball.

 

[djcolts]

Mike Hart was the 36th pick in the 6th round last year.

It's absurd to suggest that the backups on Indy's roster are better than everyone in this draft outside of Wells and Moreno. There are probably 8-10 other guys available who could beat out Hart (WHO IS COMING OFF OF MAJOR KNEE SURGERY), Simpson, and Ball.

FIXED.I'd be very surprised if they don't take a RB by the end of round 4 (meaning one of their first 5 picks will be a RB).

 

[TheFanatic]

Mike Hart was the 36th pick in the 6th round last year. It's absurd to suggest that the backups on Indy's roster are better than everyone in this draft outside of Wells and Moreno. There are probably 8-10 other guys available who could beat out Hart, Simpson, and Ball.

A guy taken late in the 6th round does not assure that player a career of mediocrity. Tom Brady comes to mind. Hart will probably never be an MVP but just because he was drafted in the 6th doesn't mean he can't come back from injury and be a rock solid second string RB.

 

[switz]

Mike Hart was the 36th pick in the 6th round last year.

It's absurd to suggest that the backups on Indy's roster are better than everyone in this draft outside of Wells and Moreno. There are probably 8-10 other guys available who could beat out Hart (WHO IS COMING OFF OF MAJOR KNEE SURGERY), Simpson, and Ball.

FIXED.

I'll buy that, but Polian has said Hart is going to be fully recovered.I seriously think a lot of people here need to put this year's draft and last year's drafts into perspective when it comes to what rounds certain players fell in. Hart isn't a bad RB by any stretch of the imagination. As far as a prospect goes, how he was viewed last year at draft time, is better than a lot of these guys are viewed this year.

We, as FFers, just tend to fall in love with what's new more than we should. Being a rookie doesn't automatically make a player good.

 

[EBF]

Mike Hart was the 36th pick in the 6th round last year. It's absurd to suggest that the backups on Indy's roster are better than everyone in this draft outside of Wells and Moreno. There are probably 8-10 other guys available who could beat out Hart, Simpson, and Ball.

A guy taken late in the 6th round does not assure that player a career of mediocrity. Tom Brady comes to mind. Hart will probably never be an MVP but just because he was drafted in the 6th doesn't mean he can't come back from injury and be a rock solid second string RB.

The majority of players picked in the 6th round are crap players who have crap careers. If you want to believe that Hart is the next HoF gem like Brady then I won't stop you, but I'm going to go out on a small limb and say it's unlikely. Didn't you draft Addai in HA1? You might be another guy whose personal investment in this situation is clouding his judgment. No one is saying that Addai is garbage and that he's going to be replaced by a rookie, but the Colts lost Dominic Rhodes in the offseason and it stands to reason that they'll try replace him. That might mean taking Donald Brown in the first round or it might mean a lesser investment in someone like LeSean McCoy, Cedric Peerman, Javon Ringer, or Kory Sheets. One way or another, I think there's a pretty decent chance that Indy will look to fortify their RB corps.

 

[EBF]

Mike Hart was the 36th pick in the 6th round last year.

It's absurd to suggest that the backups on Indy's roster are better than everyone in this draft outside of Wells and Moreno. There are probably 8-10 other guys available who could beat out Hart, Simpson, and Ball.

Hart was the 21st RB drafted in his own class. He's proven nothing in the NFL and he's coming off a serious injury.Yet you think it's ridiculous to suggest that there might be 10 guys better than him in this class?

I think it's just part of your "Addai is an elite talent" denial defense mechanisms.

 

[switz]

I think it's just part of your "Addai is an elite talent" denial defense mechanisms.

Dude, you really need to go chill or something.Never mind that Addai has nothing to do with Hart, with the exception of them being on the Colts and playing RB. You're making less and less sense with every post. Really, relax.

 

[brobe4]

1(27) Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi

2(61) James Casey, WR/TE, Rice

3(92) Cedric Peerman, RB, Virginia

4(127) Austin Collie, WR, BYU

4(136) Roy Miller, DT, Texas

5(165) Matt Shaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin

6(201) Bernard Scott, RB, Abilene Christian

7(237) Will Davis, DE, Illinois

Bloom has nailed how I think the Colts will draft, down. If not the name, the position.

 

[3nOut]

Would drafting a WR early help or hurt Wayne's numbers?

 

[Jerry Lawler]

I agree with the others who point toward Polian's history of surrounding Manning with 1st round picks (and Brandon Stokley, who was excellent on the rare occasions in which he was healthy) at the skill positions. I doubt they go into the season with Pierre Garcon as the 3rd WR. However, I'm feeling a little uncertain this year because they've added a new coach and new defensive coordinator. Polian changed the way he evaluated players to fit Dungy's Tampa-2, and it's difficult to know what to expect from the new coaches. Normally, I'd say Indy wouldn't use a 1st rounder on a DT, but it's certainly a possibility this year. I couldn't say anything with certainty, but WR seems to be the most reasonable expectation.

 

[EBF]

Would drafting a WR early help or hurt Wayne's numbers?

Anything that takes away defensive pressure will help, IMO.