who has a stategy this year for redraft nailed down? (1 Viewer)

[dansav]

I think I got it...

Every mock draft I've done I have been pleasantly surprised with my results..

First (3) rounds are key to the fondation of your team. If you go (2) WRs and (1) RB you will be fine (in no particular order). It can be in any order RB WR WR or WR WR RB or WR RB WR. This obviously depends on the slot you have. For example if you have the 1st pick your RB would be Peterson and the next 2 picks would be WR WR.

As far as your QB wait until the 6th round or later. Let other guys in your league grab Brees, Manning Brady early. Just sit back and relax and grab your QB when the time is right. There is great value in the mid rounds for QB. You will consistently see Mcnabb, Romo, Rivers, and Warner. I won't boar you with every pick, but here is the first 9-10 rounds in a couple of mocks.

7th Slot (10 team .5ppr)

Moss

Tomlinson

Boldin

TO

Larry Johnson

Warner

Parker

Benson

Cooley

Big Ben

4th Slot (10 team .5ppr)

MJD

Wayne

Boldin

K. Smith

L Johnson

McNabb

L. White

Berrian

Cotchery

O. Daniels

I am sure some of you will tear this apart and we can agree to disagree. I just wanted to throw this out there and see what some people think. Does anyone have a simliar strategy other than best available. I remember a few years back I would just load up on RBs but I feel times are changing and it is nice to have to elite WRs on your team. IMO of couse

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I am not one to say I'm going to take so and so at this point. I think that you want to grab a stud RB and stud WR in the first two rounds if you can, and round 3 seems to be a good spot to take another WR like Boldin or Bowe. Rd 4 and 5 seems to be where the RB value is, so I will look there in those rounds.

I like to wait until round 8 for my QB, unless someone falls.

 

[prgromek]

either start the TE and QB runs or ignore them

don't be the guy taking Owen Daniels or Tony Romo in the 5th round

 

[Stinkin Ref]

these are two thoughts I have going into this draft that I am leaning towards even though it may change after I do some mocks....everything else could change in a second or less...

1. in most of my leagues I have the option with the flex to start 3 RB's....I can honestly say that my first three picks will be RB's.....maybe even my first four.....why four...?...because of the bye week set up this year and possible injuries....it is conceivable that there will be very few weeks where I actually start my first three RB's selected, so that 4th RB will be huge for me, even though he is technically a bench player....also I would prefer for the RB's I select to not be in a full blown RBBC...so while others in the 5th and 6th round are working to fill their RB2/3 or QB or TE, I will be surfing for my WR's which I think will present some value at that point in the draft.....by me taking 3 possibly 4 RB's at the beginning, I think I can make some other owners reach for RB's when they shouldn't and that will allow me to scoop up some solid WR options in the 5th and 6th....and even further as my RB position will be solid......

2. As usual, I will draft only one TE/K/D....and if possible I will look towards Houston and NYG to fill these positions as they have a bye week in week 10.....this will allow me to create depth at the core positions and I will not have to worry about these positions until week 9 (barring injury)....so I will target Daniels and then a kicker/def from NYG or HOU....not sure what Daniels ADP is right now....but if he's there in the 7th, he's mine...

with 6 teams on bye in weeks 7-9....depth at core positions will be crucial during that stretch.....

 

[FantasyTrader]

these are two thoughts I have going into this draft that I am leaning towards even though it may change after I do some mocks....everything else could change in a second or less...1. in most of my leagues I have the option with the flex to start 3 RB's....I can honestly say that my first three picks will be RB's.....maybe even my first four.....why four...?...because of the bye week set up this year and possible injuries....it is conceivable that there will be very few weeks where I actually start my first three RB's selected, so that 4th RB will be huge for me, even though he is technically a bench player....also I would prefer for the RB's I select to not be in a full blown RBBC...so while others in the 5th and 6th round are working to fill their RB2/3 or QB or TE, I will be surfing for my WR's which I think will present some value at that point in the draft.....by me taking 3 possibly 4 RB's at the beginning, I think I can make some other owners reach for RB's when they shouldn't and that will allow me to scoop up some solid WR options in the 5th and 6th....and even further as my RB position will be solid......2. As usual, I will draft only one TE/K/D....and if possible I will look towards Houston and NYG to fill these positions as they have a bye week in week 10.....this will allow me to create depth at the core positions and I will not have to worry about these positions until week 9 (barring injury)....so I will target Daniels and then a kicker/def from NYG or HOU....not sure what Daniels ADP is right now....but if he's there in the 7th, he's mine...with 6 teams on bye in weeks 7-9....depth at core positions will be crucial during that stretch.....

To each his own. I've seen all styles win championships. But I wish you the best of luck if your plan is to address your bye week issues with your #4 RB before you've grabbed your #1 WR.

 

[shredhead]

these are two thoughts I have going into this draft that I am leaning towards even though it may change after I do some mocks....everything else could change in a second or less...1. in most of my leagues I have the option with the flex to start 3 RB's....I can honestly say that my first three picks will be RB's.....maybe even my first four.....why four...?...because of the bye week set up this year and possible injuries....it is conceivable that there will be very few weeks where I actually start my first three RB's selected, so that 4th RB will be huge for me, even though he is technically a bench player....also I would prefer for the RB's I select to not be in a full blown RBBC...so while others in the 5th and 6th round are working to fill their RB2/3 or QB or TE, I will be surfing for my WR's which I think will present some value at that point in the draft.....by me taking 3 possibly 4 RB's at the beginning, I think I can make some other owners reach for RB's when they shouldn't and that will allow me to scoop up some solid WR options in the 5th and 6th....and even further as my RB position will be solid......2. As usual, I will draft only one TE/K/D....and if possible I will look towards Houston and NYG to fill these positions as they have a bye week in week 10.....this will allow me to create depth at the core positions and I will not have to worry about these positions until week 9 (barring injury)....so I will target Daniels and then a kicker/def from NYG or HOU....not sure what Daniels ADP is right now....but if he's there in the 7th, he's mine...with 6 teams on bye in weeks 7-9....depth at core positions will be crucial during that stretch.....

I did a mock last night with this srategy in mind as I also have a league that I can start 3RB/1WR. Drafting from the 7 hole (10 team, although my league is 12 team, I gotta do more mocks) I started with Chris Johnson, Steve Slaton, and Ronnie Brown. I got Welker in the 4th, Anthony Gonzalez in the 5th, and McNabb in the 6th. I thought this was a good start for a league with these requirements.

 

[RalphMouth]

Last year I bought into the "value at the later rounds for QB" talk and ended up w/ Gerard and sucked.

I want a good QB for a change.

My 12 team redraft league tends to pick their starting QBs by the end of the 5th round.

I looked at our archives and last year it was 11 taken by the end of the 5th, in 07 it was 9, in

06 it was 10 & in 05 it was 12.

I have the last pick in the 5th so if I want a good QB I will have to be the one who starts the run

in the beginning of the 4th round. I'm sure Brees, Brady, Manning & Rogers will be gone so it's

looking like Rivers, McNabb, Warner or Romo.

After these eight are drafted I'm not thrilled about the remaining ones. Palmer & Schaub could be fine

but if you draft either one you better have a decent backup. Some may say Edwards, Orton, Cassel or Ryan

will be fine but I'm not buying into that.

 

[prgromek]

Last year I bought into the "value at the later rounds for QB" talk and ended up w/ Gerard and sucked.

I want a good QB for a change.

My 12 team redraft league tends to pick their starting QBs by the end of the 5th round.

I looked at our archives and last year it was 11 taken by the end of the 5th, in 07 it was 9, in

06 it was 10 & in 05 it was 12.

I have the last pick in the 5th so if I want a good QB I will have to be the one who starts the run

in the beginning of the 4th round. I'm sure Brees, Brady, Manning & Rogers will be gone so it's

looking like Rivers, McNabb, Warner or Romo.

After these eight are drafted I'm not thrilled about the remaining ones. Palmer & Schaub could be fine

but if you draft either one you better have a decent backup. Some may say Edwards, Orton, Cassel or Ryan

will be fine but I'm not buying into that.

Did Garrard really suck though? He didn't start off good, but he finished as QB #9 in my league. His end of year numbers were decent, and the fact that he will give you something on the ground is a bonus. Add Torry Holt and an improved offensive line, and I wouldn't be afraid to go back to Garrard again this year. If you pair Garrard with a Cassell, Edwards, or Orton I think you'll be fine.

 

[shredhead]

Last year I bought into the "value at the later rounds for QB" talk and ended up w/ Gerard and sucked.

I want a good QB for a change.

Be careful with that thought process, Last year I decided I finally wanted a top tier QB, actually I decided that when Brady fell to me at 1-10. Well, I'm sure you can guess how that worked out for me. I could have had Portis or Fitz or somebody like that in the first.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I would love to land both Schaub and Palmer in the 8th and 9th rds, or take on of them and pair them with Orton or Garrard.

 

[Banger]

I never go into a draft with a specific plan (i.e. draft RB/QB/RB...). I generally have a handful of guys I like at various points throughout the draft and I target them. I just react to what happens during the draft.

 

[Banger]

I would love to land both Schaub and Palmer in the 8th and 9th rds, or take on of them and pair them with Orton or Garrard.

I targetted Schaub big time last year and would like to get him again this year but I think his value will rise as the start of the season rolls around.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Last year I bought into the "value at the later rounds for QB" talk and ended up w/ Gerard and sucked.

I want a good QB for a change.

Be careful with that thought process, Last year I decided I finally wanted a top tier QB, actually I decided that when Brady fell to me at 1-10. Well, I'm sure you can guess how that worked out for me. I could have had Portis or Fitz or somebody like that in the first.

Further, I wouldn't write off the strategy just because Garrard specifically didn't pan out. I got Rivers as QB 19 last year and QB 18 was Rodgers. I expect you'd have been happy with either of those.

 

[huthut]

I am thinking of going RB/WR/WR if I am in the first 4, and WR/RB/WR if I am anything else. However we added a WR/RB flex this year (+ 2RB 3WR), and I am wondering if I should just go RB/RB if I am 9th or 10th, because then I could get 2 #1 RB, then maybe grab another RB around 4 or 5 and use them as a permanent flex? These are all in 10 person mocks.

Basically it is the difference between:

MJD/Jennings/Bolding (or similar players)

Fitzgerald/Slaton/Colston (or similar players)

Gore/Slaton/Colston (or similar players)

However after the 3rd round there is a big drop off in WR talent, so I was wondering if getting 2 WR in the first 3 rounds, getting someone like Grant/Pierre Thomas/Ronnie Brown in the 4th or 5th round if they are available, and maybe stocking up on some potential upside RB like Ward/Moreno/Wells in the middle rounds, with a few late round grabs of people like Donald Brown/LeSean McCoy since Addai and Westbrook are so fragile.

 

[RalphMouth]

I never go into a draft with a specific plan (i.e. draft RB/QB/RB...). I generally have a handful of guys I like at various points throughout the draft and I target them. I just react to what happens during the draft.

I never really have either but after last year's QB mess I got myself into I glanced at our drafting archives.After seeing such a trend that over 83% of my league mates like to have their starting QB before the end of the 5th round I have to plan accordingly. I guess lesson learned is to know what your league's tendencies are.

 

[waveman]

Last year I bought into the "value at the later rounds for QB" talk and ended up w/ Gerard and sucked.

I want a good QB for a change.

Be careful with that thought process, Last year I decided I finally wanted a top tier QB, actually I decided that when Brady fell to me at 1-10. Well, I'm sure you can guess how that worked out for me. I could have had Portis or Fitz or somebody like that in the first.

And that's exactly why no matter how you strategize... crap happens to mess up what would otherwise look like an awesome early round picks and starting team and teams that look like they had so-so draft can win. I did the same thing (Brady) last year, and mustered up a 5th place position after loosing my top three of my top four picks in the first four weeks. I have been playing for quite a while, and one of the things is "you have to know is your league", and strategize based on that. Stud theories and other schemes can work for you or against you. And nothing will ever guarantee a good season, cause unexpected injuries, arrests, suspensions, etc will always be out there. I had another team that was sort of blessed and didn't have to change my lineup much during the season, and won the fantasy bowl.

 

[Banger]

I never go into a draft with a specific plan (i.e. draft RB/QB/RB...). I generally have a handful of guys I like at various points throughout the draft and I target them. I just react to what happens during the draft.

I never really have either but after last year's QB mess I got myself into I glanced at our drafting archives.After seeing such a trend that over 83% of my league mates like to have their starting QB before the end of the 5th round I have to plan accordingly. I guess lesson learned is to know what your league's tendencies are.

that's absolutely true but you can't put all your eggs in one basket either especially if you are going for the cheap option/value option. You always have to have decent insurance and grab another QB (from your example) soon after you grabbed a Gerard in the event he does bomb. I think it's great info knowing your leaguemates grab QB's early and if I were you if wouldn't join the herd and draft a QB early but use that info to your advantage. I'd continue to buck the trend but do a good bit of research on the QB10-18 range and have a couple guys that you want to target like a Schaub/Palmer/possibly Cassel/etc.. Then again though if you are drafting and a solid QB falls to you cheap snatch him but that doesn't sound like the case in your league. You aren't always going to hit a homer with all your picks and sometimes a guy doesn't work out but by forgoing the QB I would suspect you would have had some decent talent from the earlier rounds and sometimes you need to make early assessments of your team and make some trades to sure up the weak spots/potential weak spots. You don't sitback and let a Gerrard mistake ruin your season...you work the waiver wire extra hard, make trades, etc.

 

[massraider]

It depends completely where you draft. And also if you are in PPR, and if you can start 2 or 3 RB.

If I am picking early, I want 2 RB and 1 WR after the first three rounds, because the RB at the end of the 4th are bigger question marks than the WR that are there.

End of the draft, I think you can get a good RB the beginning of the 4th.

 

[theToes]

I never go into a draft with a specific plan (i.e. draft RB/QB/RB...). I generally have a handful of guys I like at various points throughout the draft and I target them. I just react to what happens during the draft.

I never really have either but after last year's QB mess I got myself into I glanced at our drafting archives.After seeing such a trend that over 83% of my league mates like to have their starting QB before the end of the 5th round I have to plan accordingly. I guess lesson learned is to know what your league's tendencies are.

This is generally what happens in my league. Last year 11 of the 12 teams had their starting qb by the end of the 5th round. The one team that waited picked a qb in the 8th and wound up with Garrard. He had a pretty bad season.Qb's in general are valued higher in this league with 6 pt td's and the same 1 pt per 25 yds that rb's get for rushing. In this league if you want your starter to be better than Big Ben you will need to take a qb by the end of round 4.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

It depends completely where you draft. And also if you are in PPR, and if you can start 2 or 3 RB.If I am picking early, I want 2 RB and 1 WR after the first three rounds, because the RB at the end of the 4th are bigger question marks than the WR that are there.End of the draft, I think you can get a good RB the beginning of the 4th.

I don't know if I agree with this.WRs in the 4th are probably: Ochocinco, Edwards, V. Jackson, Owens, Roy Williams, HoushmanzedahThose guys all have question marks, such as new team, disappointing season before or have only done it one year.RBs int eh 4th are probably: Grant, K. Smith, Pierre Thomas, Larry Johnson, Moreno, Thomas JonesThese guys all have similar concerns, but no more IMO.

 

[Merton]

In a non-flex, highly-competitive league I recommend going either WR/RB or RB/WR in the first 2 rounds. This gives you much more flexibility in rounds 3 and 4 to grab the best available player without having to worry about being short-handed at one of the positions.

 

[massraider]

It depends completely where you draft. And also if you are in PPR, and if you can start 2 or 3 RB.

If I am picking early, I want 2 RB and 1 WR after the first three rounds, because the RB at the end of the 4th are bigger question marks than the WR that are there.

End of the draft, I think you can get a good RB the beginning of the 4th.

I don't know if I agree with this.WRs in the 4th are probably: Ochocinco, Edwards, V. Jackson, Owens, Roy Williams, Houshmanzedah

Those guys all have question marks, such as new team, disappointing season before or have only done it one year.

RBs int eh 4th are probably: Grant, K. Smith, Pierre Thomas, Larry Johnson, Moreno, Thomas Jones

These guys all have similar concerns, but no more IMO.

That's cool, I will explain why I think the way I do.I did say 'end of the 4th'. That's a big distinction, because Grant, K. Smith, DMC, aren't making it to the end of the 4th. I like all of them as RB2 at the beginning of the 4th.

So I think you are looking at the following guys if you are drafting out of the 1-4 holes:



Pierre: Put up great numbers when Reggie was hurt. Is he still a viable fantasy starter when Reggie is healthy? I am not sure. Gets a ton of love here at FBG, but I think it may be a bit too much.

Larry Johnson: I actually think this pick would be OK, but I have two concerns. One is the attitude problems, and the other is Haley's love of the shotgun offense. I think Jamaal Charles could get quite a bit of PT this year, especially if LJ sulks again. LJ has been saying all the right things this summer, but I am thinking that is mainly because he was protecting his salary. Well, once the season starts, LJ's salary is guaranteed, I am concerned he won't be a good soldier once the season starts. But I probably like LJ here better than most. I like him a lot more in the 5th round. I think ghe's the kind of guy that can make your season if he pans out.



Thomas Jones: There's about a dozen WRs I'd take here before this guy. Competing with Leon and Shonn, rookie QB, getting older, and unhappy with contract. All this guy has is questions. No thanks.

Knowshon Moreno: I am surprised how many people are blindly penciling this guy in for 1,400 total yards. Denver has had maybe the worst offseason of any team this year, I hate the track record of Patriot head coaches not named 'Bill', he (the coach) comes from a system where they used RBBC, and I don't think anyone has called Moreno a once-a-decade player. They have a bad defense by any measure, and I think a major drop down this year in QB and offensive coaching.

Whereas the WRs you listed are all going to be the #1 target for their teams(except VJax, and he finished higher than all of them), and there isn't much argument about that. They aren't perfect prospects, obviously, but I feel better about one of these guys as my #2 WR (and having Barber, Brown, etc. as my #2 RB) than I do with one of the above as my #2 RB.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

It depends completely where you draft. And also if you are in PPR, and if you can start 2 or 3 RB.

If I am picking early, I want 2 RB and 1 WR after the first three rounds, because the RB at the end of the 4th are bigger question marks than the WR that are there.

End of the draft, I think you can get a good RB the beginning of the 4th.

I don't know if I agree with this.WRs in the 4th are probably: Ochocinco, Edwards, V. Jackson, Owens, Roy Williams, Houshmanzedah

Those guys all have question marks, such as new team, disappointing season before or have only done it one year.

RBs int eh 4th are probably: Grant, K. Smith, Pierre Thomas, Larry Johnson, Moreno, Thomas Jones

These guys all have similar concerns, but no more IMO.

That's cool, I will explain why I think the way I do.I did say 'end of the 4th'. That's a big distinction, because Grant, K. Smith, DMC, aren't making it to the end of the 4th. I like all of them as RB2 at the beginning of the 4th.

So I think you are looking at the following guys if you are drafting out of the 1-4 holes:



Pierre: Put up great numbers when Reggie was hurt. Is he still a viable fantasy starter when Reggie is healthy? I am not sure. Gets a ton of love here at FBG, but I think it may be a bit too much.

Larry Johnson: I actually think this pick would be OK, but I have two concerns. One is the attitude problems, and the other is Haley's love of the shotgun offense. I think Jamaal Charles could get quite a bit of PT this year, especially if LJ sulks again. LJ has been saying all the right things this summer, but I am thinking that is mainly because he was protecting his salary. Well, once the season starts, LJ's salary is guaranteed, I am concerned he won't be a good soldier once the season starts. But I probably like LJ here better than most. I like him a lot more in the 5th round. I think ghe's the kind of guy that can make your season if he pans out.



Thomas Jones: There's about a dozen WRs I'd take here before this guy. Competing with Leon and Shonn, rookie QB, getting older, and unhappy with contract. All this guy has is questions. No thanks.

Knowshon Moreno: I am surprised how many people are blindly penciling this guy in for 1,400 total yards. Denver has had maybe the worst offseason of any team this year, I hate the track record of Patriot head coaches not named 'Bill', he (the coach) comes from a system where they used RBBC, and I don't think anyone has called Moreno a once-a-decade player. They have a bad defense by any measure, and I think a major drop down this year in QB and offensive coaching.

Whereas the WRs you listed are all going to be the #1 target for their teams(except VJax, and he finished higher than all of them), and there isn't much argument about that. They aren't perfect prospects, obviously, but I feel better about one of these guys as my #2 WR (and having Barber, Brown, etc. as my #2 RB) than I do with one of the above as my #2 RB.

Moreno.....live in CO....if he is on the bench when they decided to pass on taking a defensive player at #12.....heads will roll.....I hate Denver, but the fans will start saying WTF if they don't give that kid the rock.....it was given here that they were going to go defense with both picks.....they went out on a limb, and there will be some pressure to get something out of that 12th pick....