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football is a lil' tougher than the other sports:baseball- ruthbasketball - jordanhockey- gretzkyfootball - ?
Pele!No Brainer, Michael Jordan. No one took over a game like him in any sport..EVER
No way. There are some great, great heroes in hockey legend but no one comes close to the Great One for the #1 spot. He was bigger to hockey than Jordan was to basketball.I don't think basketball and baseball are any easier than football.
You could easily make a case for a couple of different guys over Jordan. Wilt comes to mind.
Baseball has a ton of guys that you could make a case for as well. Williams, Bonds, etc.
I think your choices are fine, but I think it's NEVER easy to come up with a "best ever".
Even Gretsky, who is probably closest to "a lock" has a couple of competitors.
Gordy Howe, Bobby Orr and Lemiux have all been argued against the Great One. I like Gretzky, but there are decent arguments for all of them.No way. There are some great, great heroes in hockey legend but no one comes close to the Great One for the #1 spot. He was bigger to hockey than Jordan was to basketball.I don't think basketball and baseball are any easier than football.
You could easily make a case for a couple of different guys over Jordan. Wilt comes to mind.
Baseball has a ton of guys that you could make a case for as well. Williams, Bonds, etc.
I think your choices are fine, but I think it's NEVER easy to come up with a "best ever".
Even Gretsky, who is probably closest to "a lock" has a couple of competitors.
Jan Stenerud. Only player at his position in the HOF.I say Jerry Rice. The only player universally regarded as the best player ever at his position.
Um, you mention these names and not Johnny Unitas? the man epitomized what the modern QB is. threw tds in 47 consecutive games - when you didnt have the pass offenses of today. called his plays, ran his team and defined the nfl second only to lombardi.lombardi is probably the closest thing to Jordan or Ruth in football. It is very much a coaches game.Overall, that's a tough call. Some say Montana, some may say like Bart Starr. I think when all is said and done, we may indeed be saying Tom Brady. The man just knows how to win...
PLEEEEEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE!!!!!! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!Tom Brady.
DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!I say Jerry Rice. The only player universally regarded as the best player ever at his position.
I respectfully disagree that there is an argument for those guys over Gretzky.First, consider the awards.Gordy Howe, Bobby Orr and Lemiux have all been argued against the Great One. I like Gretzky, but there are decent arguments for all of them.No way. There are some great, great heroes in hockey legend but no one comes close to the Great One for the #1 spot. He was bigger to hockey than Jordan was to basketball.I don't think basketball and baseball are any easier than football.
You could easily make a case for a couple of different guys over Jordan. Wilt comes to mind.
Baseball has a ton of guys that you could make a case for as well. Williams, Bonds, etc.
I think your choices are fine, but I think it's NEVER easy to come up with a "best ever".
Even Gretsky, who is probably closest to "a lock" has a couple of competitors.
Yeah, by playing on the best team.I think when all is said and done, we may indeed be saying Tom Brady. The man just knows how to win...
You mean like Jerry Rice did for years?Yeah, by playing on the best team.I think when all is said and done, we may indeed be saying Tom Brady. The man just knows how to win...
I personally rank Payton above Brown, but I would have a hard time choosing between Payton, Rice, Unitas, and Taylor. I guess those would be in my top tier, with Montana and Jim Brown in the next. I confess that I don't know enough about Hutson and his era to know exactly where to rank him.I think if you polled every football writer (or broadcasters or Hall of Famers) you would end up with Jim Brown as the number one vote getter but I don't know that he gets a majority of the votes. Others receiving votes would likely include: Rice, LT, Montana, Payton, Unitas, Baugh, and Hutson.
Hell of a golfer too.This is easy. Al Del Greco
Worked for Bradshaw.Yeah, by playing on the best team.I think when all is said and done, we may indeed be saying Tom Brady. The man just knows how to win...
Heck, if you're going to use that criteria you have to say Hutson. His play single-handedly convinced teams to pass the ball.The man who changed the way the game is played would be my pick..........L. Taylor
Joe Montana.No question.football is a lil' tougher than the other sports:
baseball- ruth
basketball - jordan
hockey- gretzky
football - ?
Sorry, Chubbs but you are very wrong about MJ. (Please see my little synopsis on a guy you might have heard of named Wilt Chamberlain). I might agree with you about Rice though. We'll all be long gone before anybody comes close to achieving what #80 has in the NFL.No Brainer best in any sport, Michael Jordan. No one took over a game like him in any sport..EVER
Football.....Jerry
If you're calling someone the greatest player of all time, then you have to consider how that person would have fared in the two-way player era. Would Joe have done well if he played back then?Joe Montana.No question.football is a lil' tougher than the other sports:
baseball- ruth
basketball - jordan
hockey- gretzky
football - ?
the most dominant player in the history of pro basketball without a doubt is Wilt Chamberlain.
I must respectfully disagree. Let's break it down.First, let's take a look at the awards.I know we're all in awe of Jordan, having seen him do his thing often during the previous decade, but with all due respect to MJ; the most dominant player in the history of pro basketball without a doubt is Wilt Chamberlain.
I know he's from a previous era, but so are Jim Brown, Babe Ruth etc; etc.; and Wilt's accomplishments put him up there with those legends in Pro Sports Valhalla.
I assume everybody knows that Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 freakin' pts in a single game, but guys, he *averaged* over 50 points and 25 rebounds per game that season.
He was a four time NBA MVP. Seven straight NBA scoring titles. Eleven straight rebounding titles. Chamberlain finished with 24,000 career rebounds and averaged over 20 rebounds and over 30 pts per game for his *entire* 14 season career!
Not only that, but he was a great passer with quick instincts, and in '68 he turned around and lead the NBA in *assists*, while still putting in 24 pts a game! They didn't keep track of blocked shots back then, but believe me Chamberlain rejected as many shots as anybody ever and could take over a game on defense.
Legendary for his size, strength and agilty, Chamberlain was 7'1" and though he started his career at about 270 lbs, in his prime his weight was closer to 300 lbs of muscle.
An incredible all-around athlete, Chamberlain was also a track and field star at Kansas, he was a martial arts student, and just for kicks, after he retired from the NBA, he played as a professional volley ball player.
There was not an ounce of fat on the guy, and while there's no way to measure it now, based on evidence from various storys you could make a case that Chamberlian was physically stronger than Shaq or anybody else to have played in the NBA. There are several stories of Chamberlain grabbing the ball simutaneously with an opposing NBA center, lifting the guy up and shaking him like a rag doll while he was still clinging to the ball. Pat Powers, an Olympic volleyball player who hung out with Chamberlain in the late 70's, witnessed two incredible examples of Chamberlain's strength. Powers claims that in an argument over a card game Chamberlain once picked up a 225 man and *tossed* him over a volleyball net. Powers also says he witnessed Wilt reach over a chain link fence and, with one arm, hoist over the top of the fence a 240 body builder. And this would have been when Chamberlain was nearly 40 years old! In any case Chamberlain was certainly quicker, more agile and could shoot the ball better than Shaq.
A bigger than life personality, intelligent, a ferocious competitor and possessed with a serious mean streak, Chamberlain was dominant in an era when there were some *real* centers all across the board in the NBA; dudes like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell; Nate Thurmond; Bob Lanier; Willis Reed; etc. etc; and no pushover teams.
I'm old enough to have seen Chamberlain play (I always rooted against him as a kid) and I also saw Jordan many, many times, and IMHO basketball is a big man's game and Wilt Chamberlain is The Classic NBA big man. In fact, and I know this sounds very Old School, but I'd also rate Kareem ahead of Michael, and Oscar Robertson would have to be right there too.