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Who is Green Bay's Opening day RB? (1 Viewer)
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a_rackowski
Footballguy
if Ted Thompson was smart he would attempt to acquire Chris Perry from Cinci - who might be ready to give up on him. Health risk for sure but the potential reward probably outweighs the asking price.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
I am a disappointed Packer fan for sure. I had many day dreams of Larry Johnson, Michael Turner, and Randy Moss all dressing in green and gold after this years draft. All for the price of a 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounder as per what was being reported here.
Now, who is the starter? Noah Herron is penciled in as the starter with Morency pushed back to the #3. The rookie is #2 already as he has proven it on the field and in camps.
Now, who is the starter? Noah Herron is penciled in as the starter with Morency pushed back to the #3. The rookie is #2 already as he has proven it on the field and in camps.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Morency #3? seriously?
nygiants56
Footballguy
Restricted
Footballguy
Source?
Flash
Footballguy
identikit
Footballguy
You're not a very smart Packer fan.....
This post is terrible. Who ever is reporting that LJ and Turner could've been acquired for a 3rd and 5th you can just go ahead and stop listening to them.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
I'll call it now: Michael Turner.
the turnip
Footballguy
"You're not a very smart Packer fan....."
LOL. I have yet to see ONE.
LOL. I have yet to see ONE.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I think that by drafting a RB in round 2 they have decided they will go into camp with Morency, Herron and the rookie and let them battle it out. It will be an open competition but the opening day starter at RB is now on their roster and we just now have to figure out who it is.
Agreed, still a chance this could go down in my opinion. Wouldn't a Morency and a pick for Turner trade make sence now?It's obvious that AJ Smith didn't value any of the RBs as backups in this draft. Morency has proven capable when needed to play.Still a risk if LT2 went down but I find it hard to believe the Chargers hold a guys that can still get them a nice draft pick in 2008.Off season isn't over yet...
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
I think the depth chart will look something like this:
Morency
Jackson
Herron
Beach/Wynn (will try to play some FB as well)
If anyone should worry about having a job, I think it's Herron.
Morency
Jackson
Herron
Beach/Wynn (will try to play some FB as well)
If anyone should worry about having a job, I think it's Herron.
Aaronstory
Footballguy
Why does it take 12 posts until we get an intelligent response? (sigh)Trading Morency at this point makes little sense to me. From what the FBG depth chart page shows, this is the RB corps before the drafting of Brandon Jackson and Deshawn Wynn - Vernand Morency (KR), Noah Herron, P.J. Pope, Arliss Beach.
Morency only has one season with the Pack if I recall correctly (with no off-season until now) but has performed well enough in limited use (91 carries). Herron has been there little longer and has been used sparingly (37 carries). Pope and Beach saw no action last year.
There is no experience with the GB system outside of Morency. Any RB coming in needs time to adapt to the system, players, field, cheese diet, whatever. Plush who would relieve MT or any other RB when he needs a breather? Rookie? Pope? Beach? Miscellaneous fan wearing cheesehead?
RB is usually considered a plug and play position, but anyone who has played can tell you it takes time to learn the flow of your blockers, nuances of the QB, feel of the turf/grass, playbook, terms, etc. MT still looks possible here based on need, unless Jackson is the second coming that some believe. I watched him a bit at Nebraska, and was impressed. He is more talented than Damien Nash of Missouri (RIP) who went on to backup slots at Tenn and Denver. Nebraska ran a couple RB last year though, so it is hard to say exactly how good he is/can be. The Nebraska pedigree certainly has been valuable to GB at the RB position, as that is Ahman's alma mater as well.
Perhaps AJ Smith has had some wind let out of his sails and will deal more now that the draft is completed. Maybe a free agent pick up is still in the works. Perhaps GB has entered a rebuilding mode and they want to hold onto their draft picks next year and call this year a mulligan, though I don't think they did all that bad.
I don't see the Pack being playoff contenders this season, but I could be proven wrong. I just don't agree with mortgaging the future for one opportunity when it will not turn around the team. They seem to be missing something intangible, rather than needing a stud RB. Certainly, they need depth at RB and Morency is not one I would build a franchise around, but the Pack just seems to be missing something that was there four years ago.
My thoughts.
Morency only has one season with the Pack if I recall correctly (with no off-season until now) but has performed well enough in limited use (91 carries). Herron has been there little longer and has been used sparingly (37 carries). Pope and Beach saw no action last year.
There is no experience with the GB system outside of Morency. Any RB coming in needs time to adapt to the system, players, field, cheese diet, whatever. Plush who would relieve MT or any other RB when he needs a breather? Rookie? Pope? Beach? Miscellaneous fan wearing cheesehead?
RB is usually considered a plug and play position, but anyone who has played can tell you it takes time to learn the flow of your blockers, nuances of the QB, feel of the turf/grass, playbook, terms, etc. MT still looks possible here based on need, unless Jackson is the second coming that some believe. I watched him a bit at Nebraska, and was impressed. He is more talented than Damien Nash of Missouri (RIP) who went on to backup slots at Tenn and Denver. Nebraska ran a couple RB last year though, so it is hard to say exactly how good he is/can be. The Nebraska pedigree certainly has been valuable to GB at the RB position, as that is Ahman's alma mater as well.
Perhaps AJ Smith has had some wind let out of his sails and will deal more now that the draft is completed. Maybe a free agent pick up is still in the works. Perhaps GB has entered a rebuilding mode and they want to hold onto their draft picks next year and call this year a mulligan, though I don't think they did all that bad.
I don't see the Pack being playoff contenders this season, but I could be proven wrong. I just don't agree with mortgaging the future for one opportunity when it will not turn around the team. They seem to be missing something intangible, rather than needing a stud RB. Certainly, they need depth at RB and Morency is not one I would build a franchise around, but the Pack just seems to be missing something that was there four years ago.
My thoughts.
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
Yes, I agree. It's called talent. Mike Sherman saw to it that this team was pretty much devoid of talent. He certainly did a bang up job too. Your draft is supposed to make up the core of your team. Sherman's never did, so Thompson is left to pick up the piece. When the day comes that these draft really do make up the core, and my guess is that's this season, then I think we'll see Thompson get a little more aggresive in free agency. My guess is that happens next season.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Thompson is smart. that's why Perry WON"T be in GB. The guy is more injury prone that Robert Ferguson. An impressive accomplishment to say the least.Morency will start and soon be sent to the bench for Jackson. Odds are a fumble sends him to the bench.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Why does it take 12 posts until we get an intelligent response? (sigh)
Not surprising.
redman
Footballguy
Definitely. You gotta hate those fumblers, like that Ahman Green guy who fumbled his way out of a job in Seattle.
redman
Footballguy
Apparently Mike Sherman has suddenly become a great judge of talent in Packers' fans eyes, because he was almost certainly the impetus behind the Texans acquiring Samkon Gado in that trade.
If you're counting on morency being the starter for the 07 season you are in for a long year. I'll leave it at that.
switz
Footballguy
Linky?
Morency is #1, Jackson #2 will compete to start, Herron is #3 at best.Morency the top back (pre-draft)
another link
FavreCo
Footballguy
Morency fumbled his way to the bench last year early on and came back late in the season.Definitely. You gotta hate those fumblers, like that Ahman Green guy who fumbled his way out of a job in Seattle.
switz
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
He fumbled twice all year...with the one lost against St. Louis. I would not call it fumbled to the bench...herron came in and had the hot hand...hard to go away from him that game.Morency fumbled his way to the bench last year early on and came back late in the season.Definitely. You gotta hate those fumblers, like that Ahman Green guy who fumbled his way out of a job in Seattle.
FavreCo
Footballguy
I saw the game. Started for Green, 2 fumbles (1 lost), sent to the bench for Herron. herron started the following week because of the fumbles. That's a benching in my book.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I remember the game as well and only remember one fumble...and every site I go to only lists one fumble that game.And Green was back the next week against Miami.
switz
Footballguy
You have a pretty funny memory.I guess Herron getting becnhed later in the season DOESN'T count as a benching to you?
redman
Footballguy
No, because Houston didn't trade Herron away, which makes him a good RB.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
DeShawn Wynn is the answer
switz
Footballguy
I like him better than Herron for sure, he is on par, ,aybe slightly better than Jackson. None of the draftees are better than Morency.
Kleck.
Footballguy
My early thoughts is that this will be an RBBC. I wouldn't go overpsending on either back right now as I don't see a clear cut starter at this point. I'm expecting a camp battle that will continue throughout the 2007 season. A rotation between Jackson and Morency, keeping each other fresh and having them push each other, could actually be a nice combination.
Morency did well with his opportunities last year. The costly fumbles will need to be worked on if he does want to see 200+ touches. That is a major concern for me, but I did think he ran well. Definitely well enough to be given the chance to fight for the starting role or significant playing time.
Jackson has more upside IMO, and seems to have a few coaches extremely excited. However, Jackson was never a feature back at Nebraska so a 200+ touch workload may be a bit too much for his rookie season. He did see quite a bit of action as a receiving RB, and I think he can come right in and play a similar 3rd down/COP/RBBC role at the very least. Morency's fumbling could also be a huge factor in how much time Jackson actually sees.
Wynn is a wild card. He has the talent to be a contributer, but he also has the attitude to never give it his all. I've heard some rumblings that he may be used as a running FB/COP/short yardage back, but for a guy that already seems to lack in dedication and desire, I'm not sure how that will go over with him.
When it comes down to the final roster spot, Herron will have an advantage of knowing the playbook and having a year under the system. He's not as gifted as Morency or Jackson, but he is a hard worker and will do anything that is asked of him. That alone could save him a roster spot.
Either way, it's too early to get an honest take on any back right now. For any early drafters it will most likely be a gut call for 2007. By 2008 I do think Jackson will start to pull away with the job. Regardless of whether he was a reach or not, Green Bay's coaches and TT thought highly enough of him to take him in the 2nd, and I honestly believe he was the #3 RB on their list or a very close #4. Jackson will be given every opportunity to earn playing time. That I am certain on.
Morency did well with his opportunities last year. The costly fumbles will need to be worked on if he does want to see 200+ touches. That is a major concern for me, but I did think he ran well. Definitely well enough to be given the chance to fight for the starting role or significant playing time.
Jackson has more upside IMO, and seems to have a few coaches extremely excited. However, Jackson was never a feature back at Nebraska so a 200+ touch workload may be a bit too much for his rookie season. He did see quite a bit of action as a receiving RB, and I think he can come right in and play a similar 3rd down/COP/RBBC role at the very least. Morency's fumbling could also be a huge factor in how much time Jackson actually sees.
Wynn is a wild card. He has the talent to be a contributer, but he also has the attitude to never give it his all. I've heard some rumblings that he may be used as a running FB/COP/short yardage back, but for a guy that already seems to lack in dedication and desire, I'm not sure how that will go over with him.
When it comes down to the final roster spot, Herron will have an advantage of knowing the playbook and having a year under the system. He's not as gifted as Morency or Jackson, but he is a hard worker and will do anything that is asked of him. That alone could save him a roster spot.
Either way, it's too early to get an honest take on any back right now. For any early drafters it will most likely be a gut call for 2007. By 2008 I do think Jackson will start to pull away with the job. Regardless of whether he was a reach or not, Green Bay's coaches and TT thought highly enough of him to take him in the 2nd, and I honestly believe he was the #3 RB on their list or a very close #4. Jackson will be given every opportunity to earn playing time. That I am certain on.
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Challenge Everything
Footballguy
I did not studder. I mean the draft was just concluded and surely the mini camps and preseason have already taken place so we for sure know what the depth chart is going to look like. This is not hard to understand. Herron
Jackson
Fullwood
Morency
Aaronstory
Footballguy
Um, yes it is hard to understand, as no minicamps or preseason games have taken place in '07. Please put the crack pipe down when posting.
Pipes
Footballguy
Herron will not be the starter...he was in danger of being cut before Green left. Both Thompson and McCarthy have been critical of his ability especially his quickness to the hole. Herron's a #3 RB at best. I do see a RBBC with Jackson & Morency sharing the load.
Aaronstory
Footballguy
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Dominick "Davis" Williams 
switz
Footballguy
Wow... Get some rest, you're either sleep deprived or oxygen deprived, or on something illegal.Herron is not pencilled in as the starter, as my earlier posted links show. Minicamps and the preseaon have not taken place.
If you are trying to be sarcastic - you're not doing a very good job.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
There is no way Herron is the starter unless the rest of the backfield gets injured.The pecking order will be
Morency
Jackson - with a good shot to be starter mid-season
Herron with a possibility he gets cut, he has 0 shot to be the opening day starter.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Insider information has told me that Herron is the starter. Dont believe me, fine. But, buy Herron low right now and be happy later. Herron, Jackson, Fullwood, Wynn, Morency... book it.
