Who is Owen Daniels Handcuff? (1 Viewer)

[jimmyd9989]

I'm in a 16 team league and own Owen Daniels without a real backup behind him (Housler who's nothing once Heap comes back). I wan't to pick up a handcuff incase Daniels gets hurt in the playoffs. However, due to MFL format, James Casey is considered a FB, and only Garrett Graham is available as a backup.

Does anyone who monitors Houston know how this would play out if Daniels goes down? I currently own Casey, but he is listed as a FB. Would Graham be worth a pickup?

 

[EBF]

I would say Graham. He's a solid player who's starting to carve out a niche. Kind of a poor man's Daniels.

 

[coolnerd]

I'm in a 16 team league and own Owen Daniels without a real backup behind him (Housler who's nothing once Heap comes back). I wan't to pick up a handcuff incase Daniels gets hurt in the playoffs. However, due to MFL format, James Casey is considered a FB, and only Garrett Graham is available as a backup.Does anyone who monitors Houston know how this would play out if Daniels goes down? I currently own Casey, but he is listed as a FB. Would Graham be worth a pickup?

Even though I think Casey is better as pass catcher, he probably would stay doing the same things that he is doing since the other FB on the roster plays very few snaps. Graham would take the role of Daniels with another 6'3 245 TE Logan Brock coming up from practice. I have seen nothing from GRaham to think he equals Owens daniels, but on the positive nothing to think that Graham could not at least joel Dressen level as a replacement.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I'm in a 16 team league and own Owen Daniels without a real backup behind him (Housler who's nothing once Heap comes back). I wan't to pick up a handcuff incase Daniels gets hurt in the playoffs. However, due to MFL format, James Casey is considered a FB, and only Garrett Graham is available as a backup.Does anyone who monitors Houston know how this would play out if Daniels goes down? I currently own Casey, but he is listed as a FB. Would Graham be worth a pickup?

Want not?

 

[GregR]

I'm in a 16 team league and own Owen Daniels without a real backup behind him (Housler who's nothing once Heap comes back). I wan't to pick up a handcuff incase Daniels gets hurt in the playoffs. However, due to MFL format, James Casey is considered a FB, and only Garrett Graham is available as a backup.Does anyone who monitors Houston know how this would play out if Daniels goes down? I currently own Casey, but he is listed as a FB. Would Graham be worth a pickup?

Even though I think Casey is better as pass catcher, he probably would stay doing the same things that he is doing since the other FB on the roster plays very few snaps. Graham would take the role of Daniels with another 6'3 245 TE Logan Brock coming up from practice. I have seen nothing from GRaham to think he equals Owens daniels, but on the positive nothing to think that Graham could not at least joel Dressen level as a replacement.

Long term Phillip Supernaw might be the 3rd string. Supernaw was on the practice squad but was put on the injured list.Agree Graham's developmental path is probably comparable to Dreessen, rather than being another Owen Daniels.

 

[munygon2]

Per RW:

Owen Daniels missed Texans practice Wednesday with hip a injury, and is undergoing tests.Per reporter Nick Scurfield, Daniels is "very, very sore." Beat writer Tania Ganguli reports the soreness is in the "back of his hip." Coach Gary Kubiak said Daniels could play Sunday without practicing, but he's sounding questionable at best for Week 10. Although Daniels could easily end up playing, Owners need to be readying a back-up plan.

This guy has come up big for me most weeks. Sucks that he might have to miss a game.

 

[JFS171]

Seems like RW once again took some liberties with a tweet. The tweet said he had soreness in the back of his hip and was having testing done.

Daniels returned to the game Sunday after injuring his hip (he was gone for a while in the 3rd/4th quarter and was in the game late when Schaub threw the TD to Graham (Schaub looked to Daniels at first).

I don't think it's panic time just yet.

 

[SameSongNDance]

If Casey rocked the hybrid tag, I would go with him. Too bad.

 

[jimmyd9989]

Coincidence I posted this right before he got injured. I picked up Garrett Graham. Casey was useless either way because he was listed as a FB so unless he is putting up WR2 numbers or elite TE numbers he would never be started.

Hopefully Graham benefits from this if Daniels is out Sunday

 

[jsharlan]

Casey is the play here.

 

[Omar]

I'm in a 16 team league and own Owen Daniels without a real backup behind him (Housler who's nothing once Heap comes back). I wan't to pick up a handcuff incase Daniels gets hurt in the playoffs. However, due to MFL format, James Casey is considered a FB, and only Garrett Graham is available as a backup.Does anyone who monitors Houston know how this would play out if Daniels goes down? I currently own Casey, but he is listed as a FB. Would Graham be worth a pickup?

Forget the Houston TE's if Daniels is out. Kevin Walter will likely get all Daniels' targets in his absence.

 

[Raider Nation]

Daniels is OUT tonight.

 

[EBF]

I'm rolling with Graham in one league where I have horrible depth. I think he has decent potential.

 

[need2know]

also going with graham....hoping to get a few points.

 

[Terpman22]

Anything to see here, esp. for future considerations?

 

[dhockster]

Anything to see here, esp. for future considerations?

I think Graham is developing nicely, and Schaub is starting to go to him more. If you are in a dynasty league, I think he is worth picking up at a low cost since the Texans may not keepOD next year due to salary cap concerns. If so, I think Graham would become their Number one TE.As long as Daniels is healthy this year, Graham's numbers are going to be pretty inconsistent, so I don't know how much I would want to depend on him getting points this year.

 

[Terpman22]

Anything to see here, esp. for future considerations?

I think Graham is developing nicely, and Schaub is starting to go to him more. If you are in a dynasty league, I think he is worth picking up at a low cost since the Texans may not keepOD next year due to salary cap concerns. If so, I think Graham would become their Number one TE.As long as Daniels is healthy this year, Graham's numbers are going to be pretty inconsistent, so I don't know how much I would want to depend on him getting points this year.

Thanks man. Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned dynasty-specific. Thanks

 

[cstu]

Anything to see here, esp. for future considerations?

I think Graham is developing nicely, and Schaub is starting to go to him more. If you are in a dynasty league, I think he is worth picking up at a low cost since the Texans may not keepOD next year due to salary cap concerns. If so, I think Graham would become their Number one TE.As long as Daniels is healthy this year, Graham's numbers are going to be pretty inconsistent, so I don't know how much I would want to depend on him getting points this year.

Thanks man. Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned dynasty-specific. Thanks

I think he can develop into a TE2 if he gets the starting job, but I don't see a lot of upside. Talent-wise, he's very similar to Tony Moeaki.

 

[MAC_32]

I hope Graham developing means they let Casey walk and he sticks somewhere (Atlanta?) in free agency, been sitting on him in dyno's for 4 years...

 

[GregR]

Anything to see here, esp. for future considerations?

I think Graham is developing nicely, and Schaub is starting to go to him more. If you are in a dynasty league, I think he is worth picking up at a low cost since the Texans may not keepOD next year due to salary cap concerns. If so, I think Graham would become their Number one TE.As long as Daniels is healthy this year, Graham's numbers are going to be pretty inconsistent, so I don't know how much I would want to depend on him getting points this year.

Thanks man. Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned dynasty-specific. Thanks

I think he can develop into a TE2 if he gets the starting job, but I don't see a lot of upside. Talent-wise, he's very similar to Tony Moeaki.

I think the Moeaki comparison is an excellent one.

 

[GregR]

I hope Graham developing means they let Casey walk and he sticks somewhere (Atlanta?) in free agency, been sitting on him in dyno's for 4 years...

I don't see the one really having any impact on the other. Their use in Houston's offense is entirely different so far. Also, I think if other personnel allowed, Casey could probably fill Graham's role better than Graham. But Graham probably couldn't fill Casey's hybrid FB role. Casey brings so much flexibility, and Kubiak loves using the FB as a receiver out of the backfield.I just don't see the presence of one meaning the other is expendable. If that did happen, it would probably be the other way... bringing in another FB that would let Casey become the TE2 making Graham expendable.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Handcuff tell?

 

[dhockster]

Anything to see here, esp. for future considerations?

I think Graham is developing nicely, and Schaub is starting to go to him more. If you are in a dynasty league, I think he is worth picking up at a low cost since the Texans may not keepOD next year due to salary cap concerns. If so, I think Graham would become their Number one TE.As long as Daniels is healthy this year, Graham's numbers are going to be pretty inconsistent, so I don't know how much I would want to depend on him getting points this year.

Thanks man. Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned dynasty-specific. Thanks

I think he can develop into a TE2 if he gets the starting job, but I don't see a lot of upside. Talent-wise, he's very similar to Tony Moeaki.

I think if he gets the starting job he will be more effective than you think, not necessarily because of his talent, but because of the system he is in. The Texans use the TE as the second receiving option ahead of the WR2. With Gary Kubiak buying himself a couple more seasons with the success last year and this year, I don't look for the system to change any time soon. Especially since none of the young WR's have stood out significantly.

 

[MAC_32]

I hope Graham developing means they let Casey walk and he sticks somewhere (Atlanta?) in free agency, been sitting on him in dyno's for 4 years...

I don't see the one really having any impact on the other. Their use in Houston's offense is entirely different so far. Also, I think if other personnel allowed, Casey could probably fill Graham's role better than Graham. But Graham probably couldn't fill Casey's hybrid FB role. Casey brings so much flexibility, and Kubiak loves using the FB as a receiver out of the backfield.I just don't see the presence of one meaning the other is expendable. If that did happen, it would probably be the other way... bringing in another FB that would let Casey become the TE2 making Graham expendable.

Are the texans going to pony up for a hybrid fb? If not as teams go more and more to two te sets i see Casey getting paid somewhere else

 

[GregR]

I hope Graham developing means they let Casey walk and he sticks somewhere (Atlanta?) in free agency, been sitting on him in dyno's for 4 years...

I don't see the one really having any impact on the other. Their use in Houston's offense is entirely different so far. Also, I think if other personnel allowed, Casey could probably fill Graham's role better than Graham. But Graham probably couldn't fill Casey's hybrid FB role. Casey brings so much flexibility, and Kubiak loves using the FB as a receiver out of the backfield.I just don't see the presence of one meaning the other is expendable. If that did happen, it would probably be the other way... bringing in another FB that would let Casey become the TE2 making Graham expendable.

Are the texans going to pony up for a hybrid fb? If not as teams go more and more to two te sets i see Casey getting paid somewhere else

Well, every team has a price. If someone is going to pay him top TE money then they would likely let him go. But I don't know that anyone is going to do that. I can see them paying him for the level he's contributing though.

 

[MAC_32]

I hope Graham developing means they let Casey walk and he sticks somewhere (Atlanta?) in free agency, been sitting on him in dyno's for 4 years...

I don't see the one really having any impact on the other. Their use in Houston's offense is entirely different so far. Also, I think if other personnel allowed, Casey could probably fill Graham's role better than Graham. But Graham probably couldn't fill Casey's hybrid FB role. Casey brings so much flexibility, and Kubiak loves using the FB as a receiver out of the backfield.I just don't see the presence of one meaning the other is expendable. If that did happen, it would probably be the other way... bringing in another FB that would let Casey become the TE2 making Graham expendable.

Are the texans going to pony up for a hybrid fb? If not as teams go more and more to two te sets i see Casey getting paid somewhere else

Well, every team has a price. If someone is going to pay him top TE money then they would likely let him go. But I don't know that anyone is going to do that. I can see them paying him for the level he's contributing though.

With their cap situation and needing to ink guys like Schaub, Brown, Barwin, etc. I don't think Casey is a priority. I think Casey is a better player than guys who got stupid contracts like Carlson and Zach Miller, may not get paid quite as much as those guys, but in a dry market he is a good free agent dart to throw so I think a team with a need at the position will pursue him while the Texans try to work things out with priority free agents.

 

[dhockster]

I hope Graham developing means they let Casey walk and he sticks somewhere (Atlanta?) in free agency, been sitting on him in dyno's for 4 years...

I don't see the one really having any impact on the other. Their use in Houston's offense is entirely different so far. Also, I think if other personnel allowed, Casey could probably fill Graham's role better than Graham. But Graham probably couldn't fill Casey's hybrid FB role. Casey brings so much flexibility, and Kubiak loves using the FB as a receiver out of the backfield.I just don't see the presence of one meaning the other is expendable. If that did happen, it would probably be the other way... bringing in another FB that would let Casey become the TE2 making Graham expendable.

Are the texans going to pony up for a hybrid fb? If not as teams go more and more to two te sets i see Casey getting paid somewhere else

Well, every team has a price. If someone is going to pay him top TE money then they would likely let him go. But I don't know that anyone is going to do that. I can see them paying him for the level he's contributing though.

With their cap situation and needing to ink guys like Schaub, Brown, Barwin, etc. I don't think Casey is a priority. I think Casey is a better player than guys who got stupid contracts like Carlson and Zach Miller, may not get paid quite as much as those guys, but in a dry market he is a good free agent dart to throw so I think a team with a need at the position will pursue him while the Texans try to work things out with priority free agents.

Brown and Schaub have already been re-signed to long term deals. Barwin may not be as big a priority as he is not living up to the statistics he generated last season. I think the key to the Texans keeping Casey next year is what they decide to do about Owen Daniels. Cutting Daniels will free up about $2,250,000 against the cap. If Daniels is gone, then they will have more money available and a need to re-sign Casey. If they keep Daniels, then they will have less money and less of a need to keep Casey.