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Who is Rookie Pick #4 in a Dynasty League? (1 Viewer)
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Colin Dowling
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Russell.
switz
Footballguy
At #4 the smart pick would be Russell. Jackson isn't the answer in GB, and unless you're in a redraft, Russell is the smart pick to let develop a year. Really no one after 1-3 is going to be great. Some of the WRs should pan out though. But it's accurately predicting which one that presents the challenge
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
I voted Russell for now.
Regarding Jackson, I looked at his college stats and I just do not see the love. He seems to be very unproven. I like Russell, Quinn and maybe even Bowe and or Meachem over Jackson.
Regarding Jackson, I looked at his college stats and I just do not see the love. He seems to be very unproven. I like Russell, Quinn and maybe even Bowe and or Meachem over Jackson.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
How is QUinn in a better situation?
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I would give that strong consideration as well.
Warpig
Footballguy
The way I see it is this:
1) Quinn - He has his blindside protected with the man mountain Joe Thomas and the Browns have been bringing O-linemen (though they've been bitten by the injury bug)...atleast they are trying to build a team the right way. Either way, Cleveland O-line >> Oakland O-line and lest we forget, Quinn is more mobile in the pocket than Russell! Cleveland also has a stud TE to help Quinn out as well as a stud in Braylon as well as a decent supporting cast of WR's. The running game leaves something to be desired but it's better than it was last year.
2) Russell - has freakish athletic abilities for someone his size. Is gonna be the face of that franchise for atleast the next 3 years (until he fails miserably or the next new coach comes in with "his guys". Until then he'll be given the every opportunity.
3) Jackson - I'm going with Jackson here because this is "fantasy" football. He has landed in a good situation and will compete with sub-par talent for the #1 RB job. Sometimes all it takes is a good situation in fantasy football. Think Jerious Norwood (not comparing talent levels, just situations they landed in). Also, Jackson has all the tools to succeed in the NFL.
4) Henry - see #3. It's all about favorable situations. He too will be given every opportunity to take the #1 RB job.
5) Meachem - Yuck. I think Meachem has good talent, I just don't like his situation. The Saints have a ton of decent WR's rostered now and will probably rotate them in regularity. I'm thinking New England Patriots WR scenarios here. (see also Antonio Pittman).
6) Bowe - Actually, I'd probably move him above Meachem. The Chiefs needed WR help as badly as anything else. However, the Chiefs don't throw it very often and when they do it goes to their TE and RB the majority of the time. Bowe may take over the #2 spot immediately and the #1 by 2008. I think Webb and Hannon will also be in play there. He'll have a great chance at starting in 2007, but I just don't like the offense he landed in.
just my
1) Quinn - He has his blindside protected with the man mountain Joe Thomas and the Browns have been bringing O-linemen (though they've been bitten by the injury bug)...atleast they are trying to build a team the right way. Either way, Cleveland O-line >> Oakland O-line and lest we forget, Quinn is more mobile in the pocket than Russell! Cleveland also has a stud TE to help Quinn out as well as a stud in Braylon as well as a decent supporting cast of WR's. The running game leaves something to be desired but it's better than it was last year.
2) Russell - has freakish athletic abilities for someone his size. Is gonna be the face of that franchise for atleast the next 3 years (until he fails miserably or the next new coach comes in with "his guys". Until then he'll be given the every opportunity.
3) Jackson - I'm going with Jackson here because this is "fantasy" football. He has landed in a good situation and will compete with sub-par talent for the #1 RB job. Sometimes all it takes is a good situation in fantasy football. Think Jerious Norwood (not comparing talent levels, just situations they landed in). Also, Jackson has all the tools to succeed in the NFL.
4) Henry - see #3. It's all about favorable situations. He too will be given every opportunity to take the #1 RB job.
5) Meachem - Yuck. I think Meachem has good talent, I just don't like his situation. The Saints have a ton of decent WR's rostered now and will probably rotate them in regularity. I'm thinking New England Patriots WR scenarios here. (see also Antonio Pittman).
6) Bowe - Actually, I'd probably move him above Meachem. The Chiefs needed WR help as badly as anything else. However, the Chiefs don't throw it very often and when they do it goes to their TE and RB the majority of the time. Bowe may take over the #2 spot immediately and the #1 by 2008. I think Webb and Hannon will also be in play there. He'll have a great chance at starting in 2007, but I just don't like the offense he landed in.
just my
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Re: MEachem
WHo are all these great WR's the Saints have rostered?
WHo are all these great WR's the Saints have rostered?
LBH
Footballguy
I think he has better options in Winslow jr, and B.Edwards. Taking J.Thomas helps upgrade the OL by a lot. Nothing in oakland gets me very excited
I agree and great analysis. I think the real winner of this years draft is pick 9 or 10. You don't have to make this decision and I think most of these players are all interchangeable. Jamarcus and Brady are both rookie QB's so will struggle and won't be good fantasy players for 2-3 years.Bowe as previously said is in KC where they rarely throw and when they do Tony G is option #1, LJ is option #2, and then the WR's, so not much fantasy love there especially with Kennison still around and Huard or Croyle throwing the ball.Meachem is in NO which looks ideal but there is way to much going on there with Colston, Bush, Henderson, Copper, Eric Johnson, etc.Brandon Jackson looks like the most value but he goes to GB where they only average 100 rushing yards per game and then there is Morency and Wynn who aren't anything special but 60% of that production is only 60 yards so this is not a fantasy mecca by all means.Chris Henry was a terrible college RB at a crappy school where he only averaged 3.26 yards per carry over 3 years. But, he is in a great situation and could be the starter although it'll probably be only for one year when Turner comes in next year. I think Michael Bush can make a legitimate case as the #4. Prior to injury he was neck and neck with AD as the top prospect. If he is almost healthy which most reports want us to believe then he could easily take over the crowded Raider backfield and be the #1 back by midseason. In conclusion, rookie pick #4 sucks unless you are desperate for a QB. Trade out of it and get the 9th or 10th pick and let everyone else make your decision.The way I see it is this:1) Quinn - He has his blindside protected with the man mountain Joe Thomas and the Browns have been bringing O-linemen (though they've been bitten by the injury bug)...atleast they are trying to build a team the right way. Either way, Cleveland O-line >> Oakland O-line and lest we forget, Quinn is more mobile in the pocket than Russell! Cleveland also has a stud TE to help Quinn out as well as a stud in Braylon as well as a decent supporting cast of WR's. The running game leaves something to be desired but it's better than it was last year.2) Russell - has freakish athletic abilities for someone his size. Is gonna be the face of that franchise for atleast the next 3 years (until he fails miserably or the next new coach comes in with "his guys". Until then he'll be given the every opportunity.3) Jackson - I'm going with Jackson here because this is "fantasy" football. He has landed in a good situation and will compete with sub-par talent for the #1 RB job. Sometimes all it takes is a good situation in fantasy football. Think Jerious Norwood (not comparing talent levels, just situations they landed in). Also, Jackson has all the tools to succeed in the NFL. 4) Henry - see #3. It's all about favorable situations. He too will be given every opportunity to take the #1 RB job.5) Meachem - Yuck. I think Meachem has good talent, I just don't like his situation. The Saints have a ton of decent WR's rostered now and will probably rotate them in regularity. I'm thinking New England Patriots WR scenarios here. (see also Antonio Pittman).6) Bowe - Actually, I'd probably move him above Meachem. The Chiefs needed WR help as badly as anything else. However, the Chiefs don't throw it very often and when they do it goes to their TE and RB the majority of the time. Bowe may take over the #2 spot immediately and the #1 by 2008. I think Webb and Hannon will also be in play there. He'll have a great chance at starting in 2007, but I just don't like the offense he landed in.just my
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I like Bowe myself.. he'll be #2 WR this yr and possibly #1 in a yr or 2.. My concern is who is throwing him the ball in a yr or 2..
Warpig
Footballguy
I have pick #6 and I'm trying to trade down from there. I will still have too many choices at #6 I think.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Not to sound ridiculous, but Michael BUsh is giving me shades of Frank Gore. He CLEARLY has talent, it's just a matter of the injury.
Some of the guys being mentioned ahead of him are being trumpeted for their situation. I prefer "talent" over situation every time. A talented player will get opportunity. A lesser talented player won't keep an opportunity for long. (Recent example: Marion Barber III)
Some of the guys being mentioned ahead of him are being trumpeted for their situation. I prefer "talent" over situation every time. A talented player will get opportunity. A lesser talented player won't keep an opportunity for long. (Recent example: Marion Barber III)
switz
Footballguy
I too prefer Bush above Jackson, and I think Bush landed in a somewhat better situation.
i like bowe.
KC hasn't thrown to their receivers for a good reason. they suck. how many teams gave up on kennison before he landed in KC? 3? Gonzo is getting a litle long in the tooth, and LJ isn't really targeted all that much.
i'm not excited about where the RB's landed. just because GB reached for jackson dosen't mean i have to. i think the GB backfield is just going to be one big mess, and if i was favre, i'd change my mind, and retire.
henry is nothing more than a work warrior. i wouldn't touch him at pick 10
the falcons had 11 picks, and didn't take bush, why should i? when your former coach lets you slide to the 4th round, i think that speaks volumns
finally, unless you're in a large league, i just can't see taking a QB in the mid 1st. generally, most people get tired of waiting for these guys to develope. if you time it right, you can grab one in a cheap trade, as a throw in as part of a major trade, or even off the wire.
KC hasn't thrown to their receivers for a good reason. they suck. how many teams gave up on kennison before he landed in KC? 3? Gonzo is getting a litle long in the tooth, and LJ isn't really targeted all that much.
i'm not excited about where the RB's landed. just because GB reached for jackson dosen't mean i have to. i think the GB backfield is just going to be one big mess, and if i was favre, i'd change my mind, and retire.
henry is nothing more than a work warrior. i wouldn't touch him at pick 10
the falcons had 11 picks, and didn't take bush, why should i? when your former coach lets you slide to the 4th round, i think that speaks volumns
finally, unless you're in a large league, i just can't see taking a QB in the mid 1st. generally, most people get tired of waiting for these guys to develope. if you time it right, you can grab one in a cheap trade, as a throw in as part of a major trade, or even off the wire.
Ducegonads
Footballguy
quote name='Kit Fisto' date='Apr 30 2007, 11:06 AM' post='6689260']
Brandon Jackson at #4 already?
It's Jamarcus Russell easily. GB fantasy football
I know, that you know, that I know, that we all know, that RB's with any value will have their names called early. Most times earlier than deserved.
JR should go early but RB starved teams will call out whomever is there.
I'm later in the draft so I'm hoping the RB fire sale stays true to form this year.
Brandon Jackson at #4 already?
It's Jamarcus Russell easily. GB fantasy football
I know, that you know, that I know, that we all know, that RB's with any value will have their names called early. Most times earlier than deserved.
JR should go early but RB starved teams will call out whomever is there.
I'm later in the draft so I'm hoping the RB fire sale stays true to form this year.
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Alluro
Footballguy
Spanky24
Footballguy
Because he'll go 3rd.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
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Kit Fisto
Footballguy
I know, that you know, that I know, that we all know, that RB's with any value will have their names called early. Most times earlier than deserved.Ducegonads said:quote name='Kit Fisto' date='Apr 30 2007, 11:06 AM' post='6689260']
Brandon Jackson at #4 already?
It's Jamarcus Russell easily. GB fantasy football
JR should go early but RB starved teams will call out whomever is there.
I'm later in the draft so I'm hoping the RB fire sale stays true to form this year.
You're absolutely right. But how many Jerious Norwood/Mike Bell/JJ Arrington/Wali Lundy/Justin Fargas/Eric Shelton/Tatum Bell/Chris Perry/Greg Jones reaches do you have to see before selecting a franchise-type QB or the #2 WR?
Frank Gore, Brandon Jacobs, Michael Turner, MJD, Marion Barber III, Willie Parker were all 2nd round or later dynasty choices. Some were even WW fodder.
We both know all too well how dynasty drafts go, and how people reach for RBs. Maybe this is the year we see that trend end.
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KoolKat
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I think that it depends on your needs of QB or WR. If I needed a QB I'd take Russell. If I needed a WR I'd take Meachem, b/c of who is throwing to him and the opportunities he will be afforded being around such a talented O. Plus I'm a big Sean Payton fan. I wouldn't take a RB unless I had no starters.
Ducegonads
Footballguy
You're absolutely right. But how many Jerious Norwood/Mike Bell/JJ Arrington/Wali Lundy/Justin Fargas/Eric Shelton/Tatum Bell/Chris Perry/Greg Jones reaches do you have to see before selecting a franchise-type QB or the #2 WR?I know, that you know, that I know, that we all know, that RB's with any value will have their names called early. Most times earlier than deserved.quote name='Kit Fisto' date='Apr 30 2007, 11:06 AM' post='6689260']
Brandon Jackson at #4 already?
It's Jamarcus Russell easily. GB fantasy football
JR should go early but RB starved teams will call out whomever is there.
I'm later in the draft so I'm hoping the RB fire sale stays true to form this year.
Frank Gore, Brandon Jacobs, Michael Turner, MJD, Marion Barber III, Willie Parker were all 2nd round or later dynasty choices. Some were even WW fodder.
We both know all too well how dynasty drafts go, and how people reach for RBs. Maybe this is the year we see that trend end.
Jerious Norwood could be the exception, though the rest of that first list is pretty much what I was thinking about. The Frank Gores, Brandon Jacobs, Michael Turners, MJD, Marion Barbers III, Willie Parkers ended up behind what was considered "solid" RB's with no shot at being #1. What a difference a year can make. I bet that next year we'll have another couple to talk about. Any early predictions?
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Rice went 1.4 in my Rookie draft
corpcow
Footballguy
What is all this talk of redraft? Redraft leagues don't have rookie drafts
