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Who is SJax's handcuff, Pittman or Minor or Both (1 Viewer)

KellysHeroes

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SJax owners.. who do u have as his handcuff. I did a look, and in all my leagues both Pittman and Minor were available; who should be picked up if he can't go this week.

 
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Heres something from CBS:

Analysis: Jackson has been a big part of the Rams' resurgence under Haslett, helping St. Louis win two straight after an 0-4 start. He had 160 yards on 25 carries and three touchdowns against the Cowboys and 79 yards the previous week at Washington, and leads St. Louis in rushing (508 yards, 4.2 average) and receiving (25 receptions, 10.4 average). He was hurt in the fourth quarter against Dallas, right before Haslett was set to take him out. An MRI on Monday revealed a slightly strained quadriceps. Jackson said he wouldn't take any unnecessary risks if he didn't continue to improve over the next few days. He wouldn't commit to playing "in a lot of pain" if there was no risk of aggravating the injury. Keep an eye on Jackson's status and hope he can return against the Patriots. When healthy, he is a No. 1 Fantasy RB. Antonio Pittman would start if Jackson is out, but Pittman wouldn't be worth starting against New England.

 
biggamer3 said:
Heres something from CBS:

Analysis: Jackson has been a big part of the Rams' resurgence under Haslett, helping St. Louis win two straight after an 0-4 start. He had 160 yards on 25 carries and three touchdowns against the Cowboys and 79 yards the previous week at Washington, and leads St. Louis in rushing (508 yards, 4.2 average) and receiving (25 receptions, 10.4 average). He was hurt in the fourth quarter against Dallas, right before Haslett was set to take him out. An MRI on Monday revealed a slightly strained quadriceps. Jackson said he wouldn't take any unnecessary risks if he didn't continue to improve over the next few days. He wouldn't commit to playing "in a lot of pain" if there was no risk of aggravating the injury. Keep an eye on Jackson's status and hope he can return against the Patriots. When healthy, he is a No. 1 Fantasy RB. Antonio Pittman would start if Jackson is out, but Pittman wouldn't be worth starting against New England.
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BTW... that part that is bolded, is it a confirmed by the coach... or is it a spin by CBS.
 
KellysHeroes said:
biggamer3 said:
Heres something from CBS:

Analysis: Jackson has been a big part of the Rams' resurgence under Haslett, helping St. Louis win two straight after an 0-4 start. He had 160 yards on 25 carries and three touchdowns against the Cowboys and 79 yards the previous week at Washington, and leads St. Louis in rushing (508 yards, 4.2 average) and receiving (25 receptions, 10.4 average). He was hurt in the fourth quarter against Dallas, right before Haslett was set to take him out. An MRI on Monday revealed a slightly strained quadriceps. Jackson said he wouldn't take any unnecessary risks if he didn't continue to improve over the next few days. He wouldn't commit to playing "in a lot of pain" if there was no risk of aggravating the injury. Keep an eye on Jackson's status and hope he can return against the Patriots. When healthy, he is a No. 1 Fantasy RB. Antonio Pittman would start if Jackson is out, but Pittman wouldn't be worth starting against New England.
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BTW... that part that is bolded, is it a confirmed by the coach... or is it a spin by CBS.
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probably from cbs at which point you'd have to take it with a grain of salt.
 
Pittman was clearly the handcuff at the start of the season but my suspicion is that if SJax can't go and Pittman is ready it will be a RBBC situation with Pittman and Minor. I can't see Pittman come back from injury after a few weeks off being given 20 carries. My hunch is this would be pretty close to a 50/50 split in touches.

Edit to add: Just my view but if I had to pick one and was only considering this week I would lean toward Minor right now as he is the healthiest.

 
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Jackson is iffy for Sunday's game

By Jim Thomas

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

Thursday, Oct. 23 2008

On the one hand, running back Steven Jackson said his right thigh injury is

headed in the "right direction." After a light indoor workout Wednesday, he

said the thigh felt good.

But he declined to put a percentage on how healthy it is, and didn't say that

he was definitely playing Sunday against New England.

Jackson's most direct answer on the subject probably came in comments to New

England reporters on a conference call.

"The leg feels good," Jackson said. "We're not quite sure, we're still going to

see what's going to happen for Sunday. But I was able to do some rehab work

with our weight coach, do some light lifting, and some light pool work."

All of that work apparently took place during practice because Jackson — in

sweats and a "hoodie" — was on the field for "pre-practice" work and

stretching, and then headed indoors. He didn't return to the field until the

end of Wednesday's practice at Rams Park.

"We're going to take it day to day," Jackson said. "I'm pretty good with having

a feel for my body and knowing where I'm at. I feel good, especially compared

to (last) Sunday."

Later, he told St. Louis reporters: "It's Wednesday and we have until Sunday to

make a game-time decision. If I could tell anybody, my fans that are concerned,

it's definitely going in the right direction."

Jackson suffered the injury while planting awkwardly on a running play midway

through the fourth quarter of the Rams' 34-14 victory over Dallas. Before that

play, Jackson had racked up 160 yards rushing and three touchdowns, a

performance that earned him NFC offensive player of the week honors.

"It kind of got bent up funny on the tackle," Jackson said. "It kind of

over-stretched itself and it was a sharp pain right away."

So Jackson's initial thought as he hobbled to the sideline at the Edward Jones

Dome was that the injury was serious. He feared the worst until an MRI exam

Monday showed no serious damage to the thigh muscle, which put his mind at ease.

"Being able to get the light workout (Wednesday) is really promising," Jackson

said.

Coach Jim Haslett said the plan all along was to not have Jackson practice

Wednesday, and then have him participate in the walk-through portion of

Thursday's practice.

"And then we'll see where he's at on Friday," Haslett said. "Hopefully, he'll

get a few reps in on Friday based on how he feels."

But Haslett, who stated Monday that Jackson "should be fine" for New England,

backed off that prognosis somewhat on Wednesday.

"We've still got four days, so if he's ready to go, he's ready to go," Haslett

said.

As improbable as it seems, a victory Sunday at Gillette Stadium could put the

Rams back in the NFC West race. Given the importance of the game, would Jackson

be willing to play in a lot of pain Sunday if it didn't mean risking further

injury?

"Anybody can be tough in somebody else's body," Jackson replied. "If it's

something that I can let rest a week, and be able to play the rest of the

season without injury, you have to take that into consideration. We're

day-to-day on it."

If Jackson can't go, the Rams will go with a committee approach, using Travis

Minor, Antonio Pittman and Kenneth Darby. It's a smallish trio; Darby is the

heaviest of the three at 211 pounds. And it's a trio without much NFL

experience. Darby has two career carries; Pittman has 39. Minor, an eight-year

pro, has 301 career carries, but only 49 since the end of the 2004 season.

But all three have hard-nosed running styles. Minor is more of a perimeter

threat and is the best receiver of the group. Pittman hasn't played since the

Week 3 loss at Seattle because of a small crack in the fibula bone in his lower

left leg.

But Pittman said Wednesday that he has been cleared to play.

"It's full-go now," Pittman said. "It's just mostly getting my legs back under

me and continuing to work hard. ... It was just a matter of letting the bone

heal. I went back in and got an X-ray last week and it was healed. I got

another one Sunday, and it looked even better."

Like Pittman, Minor said he's ready if called upon Sunday.

"I know my role," Minor said. "Of course, with special teams, and also be ready

whenever folks call your number. I'll be ready however many times the coach

calls my number. But I'm sure Antonio feels the same way, and Kenneth feels the

same way."
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I hope they don't put him out there thinking he can go and they need this win to stay in the playoff chase and then he hurts himself even more. It is supossed to be crappy weather in NE this Sunday. I hope they error on the side of caution and let him rest it for a week.

 
KellysHeroes said:
biggamer3 said:
Heres something from CBS:

Analysis: Jackson has been a big part of the Rams' resurgence under Haslett, helping St. Louis win two straight after an 0-4 start. He had 160 yards on 25 carries and three touchdowns against the Cowboys and 79 yards the previous week at Washington, and leads St. Louis in rushing (508 yards, 4.2 average) and receiving (25 receptions, 10.4 average). He was hurt in the fourth quarter against Dallas, right before Haslett was set to take him out. An MRI on Monday revealed a slightly strained quadriceps. Jackson said he wouldn't take any unnecessary risks if he didn't continue to improve over the next few days. He wouldn't commit to playing "in a lot of pain" if there was no risk of aggravating the injury. Keep an eye on Jackson's status and hope he can return against the Patriots. When healthy, he is a No. 1 Fantasy RB. Antonio Pittman would start if Jackson is out, but Pittman wouldn't be worth starting against New England.
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BTW... that part that is bolded, is it a confirmed by the coach... or is it a spin by CBS.
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if CBS is "reporting" it, spin is a given
 
so Minor is listed as the because of Pittmans injury, but Pittman is the call here, and it's likely (converse of "iffy") he'll play?

sounds like Pittman is the play. Now is he worth a damn.

 
Hipple said:
so Minor is listed as the because of Pittmans injury, but Pittman is the call here, and it's likely (converse of "iffy") he'll play?sounds like Pittman is the play. Now is he worth a damn.
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The update of the depth chart was 10/22.
 
When SJax doesn't go and it ends up being a RBBC who do you think is the better play? Pittman or Minor? Minor looked OK vs the Boys

 
NFL-ons said:
When SJax doesn't go and it ends up being a RBBC who do you think is the better play? Pittman or Minor? Minor looked OK vs the Boys
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Sorry to put it like this, but did you read the thread before posting?Overwhelming support for Pittman being the play.
 
Yea I read the thread.... Let's see there's some talk about how crappy sportsline is, trung candidate, lawrence phillips, whose actually listed as the #2 on the depth charts, some other crap, how the carries will be distributed, and a couple of definative pittman's the guy, which i must have missed as i was trying to desiminate through all the crap that ends up in these discussions. Should have just bumped it, my bad!

 
:thumbdown:

The last five posts = Pittman is currently #2 no the depth chart and is the one to have if healthy.

My only question is for Rams homers - who was running with the first team this week and which back was receiving the most targets in practice?

 
Marc Levin said:
:thumbdown:The last five posts = Pittman is currently #2 no the depth chart and is the one to have if healthy.My only question is for Rams homers - who was running with the first team this week and which back was receiving the most targets in practice?
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if they moved Pittman to #2 during the week.. then thats a good indicator that its Pittman, but Minor will get some touches
 
Marc Levin said:
:rolleyes:The last five posts = Pittman is currently #2 no the depth chart and is the one to have if healthy.My only question is for Rams homers - who was running with the first team this week and which back was receiving the most targets in practice?
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Yeah Pittaman's #2 on the depth chart which would make him #1 if sjax does not play. Mojo, hightower, kevin smith, stewart, dunn, maurice morris, and landwhale are all guys who do not start who perform as well or better than the starter.Personally i thought minor looked okay last week. do not even know when the last time pittman played. i was asking if it was a RBBC who people thought would be a better performer.thanks for pointing out who people think would be the starter
 
Again :rolleyes:

Why ask the question if all you want to do is make a case for Minor? If Pittman has moved up the depth chart ahead of Minor, and if Minor is likely a 3rd down back, then Pittman is the one to have in a RBBC.

 
Pittman may be the 'starter' this week and everything else being equal is a better NFL RB (IMO), but all signals point to a RBBC split and a situation to avoid if possible. Pittman has very little NFL experience and is coming off an injury that forced him to miss the majority of the season to date. Minor is an average NFL player that fits into the 'just in case' category on all NFL teams. He is on the roster just in case they may need to play him and for the occasional spot duty for breathers and such. The hot hand will end up getting the majority of the carries this week and no can tell who that will be until the game starts. My feelings are that Pittman will be given the intial chance to succeed because of the higher upside but Minor will get the bulk of the carries because in the end Pittman is still trying to learn this game and is coming off an injury to play for the first time in over a month.

To those wondering about news on the SJax injury. There is a complete multi-page thread on just that. This thread is to try and determine the viability of starting one of his backups.

 
I do not have a lot of football knowledge. I am trying to use this forum to learn. I asked a question, you replied stating that I should read the thread before posting. I am trying to explain what the question I asked was. All I had gotten from the thread was that Pittman would start and a lot of other crap. There are plenty of situations where the 3rd down back/ RB #2 for a team outperform the starter/ RB #1. I was asking if Pittman, who is coming off an injury starts, and Minor gets some touches, who does the shark pool think will post better fantasy football numbers? I realize your vote is for Pittman. Thank you for answering my question.

 
If you are in a PPR league, Minor is probably the better option of the two in the immediate future.

But I do not see SJax having a lengthy injury here, and if you are looking for the long-term backup to have in case of a season ending injury to SJax, I'd think Pittman will get the most opportunity to fill SJax' role in th offense.

 
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