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who is the best ff player that you have ever encountered? (1 Viewer)

Back when I worked for FBG, I won the staff redraft league 4 times in 5 years. Not sure where that rates me on the pantheon of fantasy players.

 
Back when I worked for FBG, I won the staff redraft league 4 times in 5 years. Not sure where that rates me on the pantheon of fantasy players.
Man, you should have your own HOF page on this site. What did they do? Fire ya? Quit inviting ya?

 
with all of the information out there that basically looks the same....most drafts, and teams, and leagues should look about the same as other leagues of the same size and roster requirements....the small advantages the good players can get are through the waiver wire and roster management throughout the year......and I think that includes a very underrated part of the game which is playing "keep away"....as much as you can also control other owners rosters the better....anticipate who they might need (especially your upcoming opponents)....take advantage of every roster spot you have every day and even if you aren't going to play a guy and he will never see your lineup.....keep him on your bench so somebody else can't play him.....if your league uses a rule of players are "locked" for 24 hours or something after being dropped, use that to your advantage on Thursday and Saturdays (when there are games) and Sunday mornings....drop guys within that 24 hour window of their game that you are not going to play and and pick up the next guy somebody might snag at the last minute...I'm not saying full blown "player cycling" but control other teams rosters as well as yours as much as you can.....I will generally drop my PK and DST every week and use those roster spots to carry the WW  flavor of the week and then drop them right before the Sunday games and snag a PK and a DST.....#### like that can add up over the year and maybe steal you a couple of close wins.....

 
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with all of the information out there that basically looks the same....most drafts, and teams, and leagues should look about the same as other leagues of the same size and roster requirements....the small advantages the good players can get are through the waiver wire and roster management throughout the year......and I think that includes a very underrated part of the game which is playing "keep away"....as much as you can also control other owners rosters the better....anticipate who they might need, take advantage of every roster spot you have every day and even if you aren't going to play a guy and he will never see your lineup.....keep him on your bench so somebody else can't play him.....if your league uses a rule of players are "locked" for 24 hours or something after being dropped, use that to your advantage on Thursday and Saturdays (when there are games) and Sunday mornings....drop guys within that 24 hour window of their game that you are not going to play and and pick up the next guy somebody might snag at the last minute...I'm not saying full blown "player cycling" but control other teams rosters as well as yours as much as you can.....I will generally drop my PK and DST every week and use those roster spots to carry the WW  flavor of the week and then drop them right before the Sunday games and snag a PK and a DST.....#### like that can add up over the year and maybe steal you a couple of close wins.....
I just picked up Pitt defense mainly to keep him away from my better record opponent this week. I will play them, but that was the angle I was looking at.

 
Best ever has to be 1942 WR Don Hutson.  How dominant was he?  He had 74 catches for 1211 yards and 17 TD's (297.1 fantasy points).  Let's compare...

- The next closest fantasy WR was Ray McLean - 19/571/8 = 124.1 fantasy points

- The 2nd closest was Andy Uram - 21/420/4 = 87 fantasy points

- The 3rd closest was **** Todd - 23/328/4 = 79.8 fantasy points

Don Hutson scored more FP than the next 3 closest WR's COMBINED!

Honorable mention - 1973 - OJ Simpson - he had 859 more rushing yards than the next closest RB

 
Best ever has to be 1942 WR Don Hutson.  How dominant was he?  He had 74 catches for 1211 yards and 17 TD's (297.1 fantasy points).  Let's compare...

- The next closest fantasy WR was Ray McLean - 19/571/8 = 124.1 fantasy points

- The 2nd closest was Andy Uram - 21/420/4 = 87 fantasy points

- The 3rd closest was **** Todd - 23/328/4 = 79.8 fantasy points

Don Hutson scored more FP than the next 3 closest WR's COMBINED!

Honorable mention - 1973 - OJ Simpson - he had 859 more rushing yards than the next closest RB
Can't be Don Hutson. 

 
How many fantasy leagues did Hutson win you. What round did you typically draft him in?
C'mon, Yuds...surely you fondly remember when we spent our days eagerly anticipating the town crier cantering his trusty steed down the cobblestones,  whilst shouting the out of town scores, so we could get to work tabulating results on parchment by quill before the tallow candle sputtered out?

 
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Say what?  He was the WR1 every year from his rookie campaign to his final season - 11 straight years
Like Anarchy said. Don Hutson was rostered on zero fantasy championship teams. Dontrelle Inman has been more valuable for fantasy football. 

 
OK then, gimme a starting year - I wanna have fun with this
Wikipedia says 1963 was the first ever league draft with rulebook. 1985 is when it was put online for the first time ever. with draft and roster management options. CBS started in 1997 ushering in the modern fantasy era. Choose whichever feels right for you. 

 
This game is like poker or blackjack. You can play perfectly, but that does not guarantee success because there is a high luck factor.

Making all the right moves probably takes your chances of winning a 12 team league from 1/12 to 1/4, but that's the best you can do.  Playing perfectly gives you a higher chance of success, but you will still lose more often than not. 
FF

Poker

Stocks

All are gambling (arguably, just can be gambling) and require luck (or cheating) but some people have better systems and win more than others. Generally it doesn't last.

 
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2017 Todd Gurley

- Week 15 - 21 rushes for 152 yards with 3 TD's, along with 3 catches for 28 yards and another TD = 45 FP

- Week 16 - 22 rushes for 118 yards, along with 10 catches for 158 yards and 2 TD's = 49.6 FP

 
The “mostly luck view” is fake news propagated by losing players.
totally Subjective.... but i see no rational argument for claiming luck is less than 50% of this hobby (at least in season long H2H format). the skill 50% of the hobby is where try hards can makeup ground on people who only check their lineups sunday morning

 
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totally Subjective.... but i see no rational argument for claiming luck is less than 50% of this hobby (at least in season long H2H format). the skill 50% of the hobby is where try hards can makeup ground on people who only check their lineups sunday morning
There’s also draft prep and better drafting. Those that check only on Sunday are also less likely to prep in advance for the draft and just go off ADP.

The luck part is around injury and h2h bad luck. That stuff evens out. Skill does not. 70/30 skill to luck.

 
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Priest Holmes
Gotta agree on this one.  Of course there were the Terrell Davis and Larry Johnson's and all these great, great players like Marshall that basically punched your playoff ticket with a legit chance to win the league as soon as you drafted them but when you consider that the people who picked up Priest Holmes that year he went to the Chiefs and how they struck gold for basically nothing for years and the impact he made....hard to find something like that. 

I remember I was one of those guys at the time and blind luck as it was I literally picked him up on my next to last pick and said "ahh, you can never have too many RBs".  In a dynasty league, that changed the course of my team for year much like Kurt Warner did for the Rams in real life. 

 
I always struggle with the "luck vs. skill" thing in ff. As technology has made it more accessible to people, I definitely think the edge that the people who really studied and worked at it has diminished greatly. 

With that being said, I have seen, at least in competitive dynasty leagues, that skill has its place and accounts for a lot. 

When i stopped playing a few years ago, I ended on a run of 4 straight championships sandwiched in between two 2nd place finishes in a competitive dynasty. I know that there was skill involved to put a team consistently in place for such a long stretch.  But with that being said, I certainly saw those years where the obvious best team got the injury bug at just the worst possible time or the really great team just kept playing against those guys that had career days when he played them and then I come along the next week and the same team does nothing. It is a fine, razor-thin balance but I DO definitely think that people that are good at FF are easy to see how and why they are.  

 
The answer to the original question: 

Who is the best ff player that you have ever encountered? (meaning owners).

There is clearly one and only one answer to this question.

Chad Schroeder.

 
From Chad's Twitter handle:

19 X full season national champ. including FFPC main, NFFC primetimeX2, FFWC main, NFBC primetime, RTFFCX3, NFBC Online, WCOFB, CDM bases, golf, nascar x2

 

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