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Who is the best team in the AFC? (1 Viewer)

Who is the best team in the AFC after 9 weeks?

  • Patriots

    Votes: 24 12.5%
  • Jets

    Votes: 11 5.7%
  • Bills

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Bengals

    Votes: 14 7.3%
  • Ravens

    Votes: 76 39.6%
  • Steelers

    Votes: 23 12.0%
  • Texans

    Votes: 38 19.8%
  • Titans

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chiefs

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Chargers

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Raiders

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • Total voters
    192
You can make a case for several clubs here I think.

Texans seem to be very good. But they've never even made the playoffs before, and we don't know how they respond to that environment. The Ravens just beat the Steelers for the second time, but I think people are still concerned about their offense. The Patriots look terrible in some areas, but they always start slow and get hot in the second half. We've seen Belichick win with lesser talent before like in 2001 when no-one respected them at all. The Steelers just got swept by the Ravens, but I don't think anyone would be surprised if the Steelers won the North or beat the Ravens in the playoffs.
Very true but I remember people saying (me included) that Arizona was never going to go far when they ended up in the SB. Never won anything so wait until postseason and they'll be exposed and fold.Pats defense I believe is ranked last, behind Indy. They again aren't going far in postseason with a horrid defense.

 
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This is difficult to answer.

I think it comes down to 1/5 teams:

Patriots, Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, Texans.

I think you could make a case for any of these 5.

5-Bengals-they look good, but other than Buffalo, they haven't beaten a single team with a winning record. They still have to play the Ravens (2X), Steelers (2X) and the Texans; I think they will lose AT LEAST 3 of those games, if not more. (9-6)

4-Patriots-great offense, but the defense is HORRIBLE; unless it drastically improves, they aren't the best team in the AFC.(11-5)

3-Ravens-They have looked very soft in almost 1/2 their games (Jags, Cards, Titans-all 3 weak opponents, IMO); they seem to get up for the big games, but aren't consistent enough for my liking (11-5)

2-Texans-With Mario out of the season, how has their defense looked? I'm not sure their defense will hold up; if it does, I move them ahead of the Steelers (12-4)

1-Steelers-Although their 2 losses to Baltimore hurt, they should be much improved when they get their LBs, Woodley and Farrior back. Their soft remaining schedule is a plus.(12-4)
Currently #1 I believe and yes they've played Indy and Miami but also Pit, NO and Oak
 
Another thing to consider, when AJ gets back the Texans will have the best QB/WR/RB combo in the AFC that not only includes Foster but Tate as well where Foster and Tate are both top 10 rushing yards in the entire NFL to date with over 600 each.

 
You can make a case for several clubs here I think.

Texans seem to be very good. But they've never even made the playoffs before, and we don't know how they respond to that environment. The Ravens just beat the Steelers for the second time, but I think people are still concerned about their offense. The Patriots look terrible in some areas, but they always start slow and get hot in the second half. We've seen Belichick win with lesser talent before like in 2001 when no-one respected them at all. The Steelers just got swept by the Ravens, but I don't think anyone would be surprised if the Steelers won the North or beat the Ravens in the playoffs.
The rules don't change that much from regular season to the playoffs.
 
Is this voting for who we think will win the AFC? Or who we think is playing the best right now? Because I think the Ravens might be playing the best right now, but I don't see Flacco getting to a super bowl.

 
They're -8 in TO in two games vs. the Ravens, and they're 0-2. They're 6-1 with a -3 differential in the other 8. My guess is they begin to force more turnovers, continue to beat up on the weak teams on their schedule, and end up in the mix with the Ravens, Texans and Patriots for a top seed.
Agreed. And if you're lacking ballhawks (besides Troy) in the secondary, the next best way to turn the other team over is to pummel the QB. Harrison's showing the other night, along with the others getting healthy, will help in that aspect immensely.If I had to pick right now, I'd go with the Ravens. But all of the top teams have weaknesses.
 
I'm a Steelers homer so take it for what it's worth. I don't believe the Steelers are currently the best team in the AFC. I'm not even sure if there is one. I think a case could be made for 5 or 6 teams. However, assuming they get and stay healthy, I think the Steelers and Ravens have the best odds of making the superbowl. Both teams (when healthy) are pretty good on both sides of the field. Big Ben is obviously an elite and clutch qb. Flacco proved on Sunday that he can be clutch as well. Both teams have a lot of experience. I think the other teams in the AFC either have major weaknesses or inexperience.

With that said, it's a moot point because everyone will get trampled by the Packers :(

 
As a Texans fan, I am just happy to see us in the mix for the first time ever in our existence. :thumbup:

My vote was for the Ravens, but if Andre can get healthy, I think we can hang with any other team out there. I don't think there's any argument the Oak & Balt losses would have been vastly different if we had had Andre on the field. As for the defense, it has been stout and Reed has played great in relief of Mario, but he has feasted on 2 of the bottom 3 offenses in the league. I'm not ready to say they haven't missed a beat with him in there.

 
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There has so far been scant discussion of the very young but also very talented Bengals and it should be noted that they have been an extremely difficult hurdle for the Ravens the past couple of years. Of course, those were Carson Palmer, Ochocinco and Houshmandzadeh teams giving them fits (all of them at their best in those games, it seemed) but Andy Dalton and AJ Green look like the real deal to me as well.

 
I'm a Steelers homer so take it for what it's worth. I don't believe the Steelers are currently the best team in the AFC. I'm not even sure if there is one. I think a case could be made for 5 or 6 teams. However, assuming they get and stay healthy, I think the Steelers and Ravens have the best odds of making the superbowl. Both teams (when healthy) are pretty good on both sides of the field. Big Ben is obviously an elite and clutch qb. Flacco proved on Sunday that he can be clutch as well. Both teams have a lot of experience. I think the other teams in the AFC either have major weaknesses or inexperience.

With that said, it's a moot point because everyone will get trampled by the Packers :(
I remember people saying that when the Pats played the Rams in the SB, the Pats have no chance. Anything is possible when you play one game.
 
I think it comes down to Steelers, Ravens, Pats...and probably the Texans

those are the 4 best QBs on teams that are in contention (sorry Rivers)...I voted Steelers because that was my gut, but honestly it was a hard decision. tomorrow it may be the Pats or whoever

 
"Best" is a close call in my mind but I think Pittsburgh is the most dangerous because Ben Roethlisberger is the most difficult player to contain in the conference.

 
...Seems like with Mario out they've stepped it up with Reed playing as well or better than Mario (should have had 7 sacks over last two games) and I believe the only team in the NFL with a top tier ranked offense and defense (#1). With AJ out they've focused more in Foster, Tate and their TE group which has helped also because Shaub has been shaky. Cushing has never played better. Perhaps with a few key guys who got injured they've had to step it up and not bank on them.Great article on Reed and their 2011 draft may rival 2006

Rookie linebacker Reed picks up where Mario left offBY JEFFREY MARTIN, Copyright 2011 Houston ChronicleUpdated 10:22 p.m., Sunday, November 6, 2011 ...
Good article on Reed. One impression I get about the effects of Mario out that they don't mention though, is that while Reed has done admirably in filling Mario's spot in production... the production of the rest of the pass rush has dropped off now that Mario is not commanding the constant extra attention.JJ Watt's actual sack total is the same (1 in 4 full games with Mario, 1 in 4 full games without, none in the one Mario was hurt), but I don't see him getting as much pressure now. Antonio Smith's sacks have dropped off noticeably, 4 sacks with Mario and playing like a BEAST, a half sack in the game Mario was hurt, and no sacks since (though sat out much of the last game injured). Connor Barwin, the other starting OLB, 2 sacks with Mario, 1 sack without. And again, I'd say he's getting a little less pressure than before. He used to get a number of unblocked runs at the QB with Mario, I don't see those going to him anymore.Don't have the stats to confirm, but my perception is the Texans are still getting pressure in terms of hurrying throws, but they are getting fewer actual hits on QBs since Mario went out. Mostly, makes me wonder how the Texans D would look with Mario and Reed out there together, and Barwin as the sub to keep them fresh.
 
I'm a Steelers homer so take it for what it's worth. I don't believe the Steelers are currently the best team in the AFC. I'm not even sure if there is one. I think a case could be made for 5 or 6 teams. However, assuming they get and stay healthy, I think the Steelers and Ravens have the best odds of making the superbowl. Both teams (when healthy) are pretty good on both sides of the field. Big Ben is obviously an elite and clutch qb. Flacco proved on Sunday that he can be clutch as well. Both teams have a lot of experience. I think the other teams in the AFC either have major weaknesses or inexperience.

With that said, it's a moot point because everyone will get trampled by the Packers :(
I remember people saying that when the Pats played the Rams in the SB, the Pats have no chance. Anything is possible when you play one game.
Certainly the Pats played a tremendous game against the Rams, but unless Mike Martz is the offensive coordinator/head coach, then I don't think the Rams lose that Super Bowl. Stubborn, prideful, genius, Mike Martz played right into the Patriots game plan. Despite the fact that Faulk was carving up the Pats, had won the regular season Offensive MVP Award, and would have probably won the Super Bowl MVP had the Rams made him the focus of the offense, Mike the Mad Bomber was bound and determined to prove that he could win on the strength of the passing game, without having to lean too heavily on Marshall. 30 combined touches for Marshall would have been enough to change the outcome of that Super Bowl IMO.

 
...Seems like with Mario out they've stepped it up with Reed playing as well or better than Mario (should have had 7 sacks over last two games) and I believe the only team in the NFL with a top tier ranked offense and defense (#1). With AJ out they've focused more in Foster, Tate and their TE group which has helped also because Shaub has been shaky. Cushing has never played better. Perhaps with a few key guys who got injured they've had to step it up and not bank on them.Great article on Reed and their 2011 draft may rival 2006

Rookie linebacker Reed picks up where Mario left offBY JEFFREY MARTIN, Copyright 2011 Houston ChronicleUpdated 10:22 p.m., Sunday, November 6, 2011 ...
Good article on Reed. One impression I get about the effects of Mario out that they don't mention though, is that while Reed has done admirably in filling Mario's spot in production... the production of the rest of the pass rush has dropped off now that Mario is not commanding the constant extra attention.JJ Watt's actual sack total is the same (1 in 4 full games with Mario, 1 in 4 full games without, none in the one Mario was hurt), but I don't see him getting as much pressure now. Antonio Smith's sacks have dropped off noticeably, 4 sacks with Mario and playing like a BEAST, a half sack in the game Mario was hurt, and no sacks since (though sat out much of the last game injured). Connor Barwin, the other starting OLB, 2 sacks with Mario, 1 sack without. And again, I'd say he's getting a little less pressure than before. He used to get a number of unblocked runs at the QB with Mario, I don't see those going to him anymore.Don't have the stats to confirm, but my perception is the Texans are still getting pressure in terms of hurrying throws, but they are getting fewer actual hits on QBs since Mario went out. Mostly, makes me wonder how the Texans D would look with Mario and Reed out there together, and Barwin as the sub to keep them fresh.
To add another grain of salt, is if you take into account that Jacksonville & Cleveland have the #30 & #32 offenses in the league. Tennessee is like #22 but also is considered to have one of the worst offensive lines in football. The defense has looked good without Mario but they've played some very bad offenses the last 3 games.
 
The Jets, Pats and Bills have faced a much harder schedule than the Bengals, Ravens and Steelers. For my money, it's still Pittsburgh as the best team in the AFC. But I think the Jets probably match up better with the Packers than any other team in the conference. That was the Rodgers' worst performance (among games he started and finished) in both completion percentage and yards per attempt. The Jets' D does very well against spread offenses, and I think they'd be able to contain Green Bay. At least more than any other team in the AFC, I like the Jets' chances.
Pitt has lost twice to Baltimore and they still have big questions surrounding their running game
Baltimore's passing game doesn't have a question. It unquestionably stinks. If I were a fan the struggles against sub par teams would be alarming.Pittsburgh is a resilient team, and could run the playoffs if they avoid facing Baltimore. They have bounced back well this season, and are trending upwards.The texans could make some noise, but I think my gut is ignoring stats, and just saying the team isn't mature or experienced enough to be a contender. New England can flip a switch and go into domination mode, but until that happens, I would leave them out if the discussion. Cinci, that are what they are. It's kind of a place where football dreams go to die. And they are so young.
 
Just to throw some more fodder into the discussion, here's how Sagarin has them ranked (PURE POINTS not RATING) in the NFL. Left out the NFC teams.

#4 Ravens

#6 Jets

#7 Texans

#9 Bills

#10 Patriots

#12 Bengals

#14 Steelers

Of interest is the high ranking of the Jets who are ranked 6th in the thread vs the low ranking of the Steelers who are ranked 3rd in the thread.

 
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Just to throw some more fodder into the discussion, here's how Sagarin has them ranked (PURE POINTS not RATING) in the NFL. Left out the NFC teams.#4 Ravens#6 Jets#7 Texans#9 Bills#10 Patriots#12 Bengals#14 SteelersOf interest is the high ranking of the Jets who are ranked 6th in the thread vs the low ranking of the Steelers who are ranked 3rd in the thread.
Give me the Texans. Nobody is going to be able to stop them once Andre comes back. Nobody can even slow that running game down. And they are deep.
 
I've thought about it some more and these sorts of debates always seem to get decided by injuries. Half of these teams will get completely derailed by injuries at random. The AFC champ will come from those that don't.
So far, we've got Texans' QB Matt Schaub out with an injury, and Roethlisberger has a broken thumb on his throwing hand. Both teams have the top 2 seeds. That throws this into even more turmoil.
 
I'm leaning more towards the Patriots winding up as the best in the AFC when its all said and done now. The Texans and Steelers just got derailed, the Patriots clobbered the Jets. Who else can stop them?

 
I'm leaning more towards the Patriots winding up as the best in the AFC when its all said and done now. The Texans and Steelers just got derailed, the Patriots clobbered the Jets. Who else can stop them?
The problem is the pats defense is a literal sieve. They're going to have to score 30+ every game to win playoff games. Brady is elite, but I don't think this offense is.
 
I'm leaning more towards the Patriots winding up as the best in the AFC when its all said and done now. The Texans and Steelers just got derailed, the Patriots clobbered the Jets. Who else can stop them?
The problem is the pats defense is a literal sieve. They're going to have to score 30+ every game to win playoff games. Brady is elite, but I don't think this offense is.
See the thing is the Patriots always seem to look out of sorts early in the year and play their best ball in the second half. I don't know if Belichick uses the first 8 games as a laboratory to determine how best to use his current edition of players or what. It just seems like things gel later.
 

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