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Who is the best young quarterback in the NFL? (For real, not fantasy) (1 Viewer)

Which one of these guys is the best? (real life, not fantasy)

  • Colin Kaepernick

    Votes: 59 27.4%
  • Andrew Luck

    Votes: 118 54.9%
  • Russell Wilson

    Votes: 14 6.5%
  • Robert Griffin III

    Votes: 14 6.5%
  • Cam Newton

    Votes: 2 0.9%
  • other

    Votes: 8 3.7%

  • Total voters
    215

timschochet

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Seems like we're entering a new golden age of QBs. Of all the young guys, which one is the best? This is not a fantasy discussion.

Personally I have them ranked:

1. Kaepernick

1a. Luck

3. Wilson

4. Griffin

And then all the rest. It's so close between the top 2, though.

 
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Luck

Cam

Griffin

Wilson

Kaep

In that order, but with no tier gaps. They all have made a case to be at the top at one point or another.

 
Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).

I would also put Newton on the list, even though I wouldn't vote for him. He is only a few months older than RGIII and has produced excellent stats. Weak W-L record, but the team around him is spotty.

 
The Panthers spent a lot of effort, money and picks on that defense and understandably so, if and when they finally decide to get serious about Cam's weapons on offense....look out.

 
Luck

Cam

Griffin

Wilson

Kaep

In that order, but with no tier gaps. They all have made a case to be at the top at one point or another.
I agree with this except put cam below Wilson. Stafford might belong in this group too.

 
Luck

Cam

Griffin

Wilson

Kaep

In that order, but with no tier gaps. They all have made a case to be at the top at one point or another.
I agree with this except put cam below Wilson. Stafford might belong in this group too.
Andy Dalton was on Harbaugh's radar during that draft. I think once he was picked by CIN the 49ers decided to move up to get Kaep IIRC.

tim really needs to study more football.

 
Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).

I would also put Newton on the list, even though I wouldn't vote for him. He is only a few months older than RGIII and has produced excellent stats. Weak W-L record, but the team around him is spotty.
Agree on Luck and I would have posted almost the exact same thing on your second point except about RG3 instead of Cam. I like Cam, but I think RG3 will have better success than Cam in the long run.

Kaep is fun to watch and I admit it's amazing some of the passes he gets off. But he's not too bright I think, talking so much on the field as a QB gonna get you nothing but a trip to the doctors. I wasn't too sad about the cheap shot from Clay.

 
I think it's between Kaepernick and Luck. I'm leaning Kaepernick because other than a small sample size hes given me no reason to doubt him.

 
Gotta see how RG3 looks tonight first. If he is back to his old self, I'll put him right there with Kaepernick, with Wilson and Luck not far behind. All four are gonna be great, sooner rather than later.

 
Far too small a sample size on Kap but he sure does loook like a stud in the making. Luck reminds me ton of Peyton and certainly has the size, agility and tools to be the best QB for a long time coming. Cam is a stud already!! Wilson doesn't belong on this list IMO at all....solid, but not in the same tier as these guys. RGIII if he stays healthy could be a stud but he's not the guy I want if I had to choose here

Luck

Cam

Stafford

Kap

RGIII

Wilson

 
<_<

Kaep is going to turn 26 soon.

Matt Stafford is younger then Kaepernick.

Dalton and Bradford also.

Young QB? A: Luck

 
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Stafford was weak last year. Below average accuracy, 6.83 yards per attempt, and barely more TDs than INTs.

He is overrated because he throws the ball more than any QB in the league and thus puts up FF points.

From an NFL standpoint, he has been pretty ho-hum. No doubt the bad defense and running game have hurt him, but he also has the Calvin factor to bail him out.

I would not rate him as a top 10 QB in the NFL. More along the lines of a Cutler or Flacco.

 
Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).

I would also put Newton on the list, even though I wouldn't vote for him. He is only a few months older than RGIII and has produced excellent stats. Weak W-L record, but the team around him is spotty.
Agree on Luck and I would have posted almost the exact same thing on your second point except about RG3 instead of Cam. I like Cam, but I think RG3 will have better success than Cam in the long run.

Kaep is fun to watch and I admit it's amazing some of the passes he gets off. But he's not too bright I think, talking so much on the field as a QB gonna get you nothing but a trip to the doctors. I wasn't too sad about the cheap shot from Clay.
37 wonderlic isn't too shabby.

 
Stafford was weak last year. Below average accuracy, 6.83 yards per attempt, and barely more TDs than INTs.

He is overrated because he throws the ball more than any QB in the league and thus puts up FF points.

From an NFL standpoint, he has been pretty ho-hum. No doubt the bad defense and running game have hurt him, but he also has the Calvin factor to bail him out.

I would not rate him as a top 10 QB in the NFL. More along the lines of a Cutler or Flacco.
OTOH, he carries the entire offense without a good line and does fairly well.

He has Calvin but nothing else until they signed bush.

Luck might have less, but all of the rest of these guys have more to work with.

 
Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).

I would also put Newton on the list, even though I wouldn't vote for him. He is only a few months older than RGIII and has produced excellent stats. Weak W-L record, but the team around him is spotty.
Agree on Luck and I would have posted almost the exact same thing on your second point except about RG3 instead of Cam. I like Cam, but I think RG3 will have better success than Cam in the long run.

Kaep is fun to watch and I admit it's amazing some of the passes he gets off. But he's not too bright I think, talking so much on the field as a QB gonna get you nothing but a trip to the doctors. I wasn't too sad about the cheap shot from Clay.
37 wonderlic isn't too shabby.
Yeah, the bolded doesn't make sense to me. He was a 4.0 GPA student in HS. He also runs a very complex offense, more complex than what Alex Smith ran, who graduated from Utah in 3 years.

 
Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).

I would also put Newton on the list, even though I wouldn't vote for him. He is only a few months older than RGIII and has produced excellent stats. Weak W-L record, but the team around him is spotty.
Agree on Luck and I would have posted almost the exact same thing on your second point except about RG3 instead of Cam. I like Cam, but I think RG3 will have better success than Cam in the long run.

Kaep is fun to watch and I admit it's amazing some of the passes he gets off. But he's not too bright I think, talking so much on the field as a QB gonna get you nothing but a trip to the doctors. I wasn't too sad about the cheap shot from Clay.
37 wonderlic isn't too shabby.
Yeah, the bolded doesn't make sense to me. He was a 4.0 GPA student in HS. He also runs a very complex offense, more complex than what Alex Smith ran, who graduated from Utah in 3 years.
It's code.

 
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Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).

I would also put Newton on the list, even though I wouldn't vote for him. He is only a few months older than RGIII and has produced excellent stats. Weak W-L record, but the team around him is spotty.
Stafford was weak last year. Below average accuracy, 6.83 yards per attempt, and barely more TDs than INTs.

He is overrated because he throws the ball more than any QB in the league and thus puts up FF points.

From an NFL standpoint, he has been pretty ho-hum. No doubt the bad defense and running game have hurt him, but he also has the Calvin factor to bail him out.

I would not rate him as a top 10 QB in the NFL. More along the lines of a Cutler or Flacco.
Good posting. Agree on both points.

I would go Luck 1, Kaepernick 2.

 
Sleeper is Wilson. He has nobody to throw to and just posted 300+ against a solid Carolina team in Carolina. Name a QB on this list with fewer weapons than Wilson.

 
Sleeper is Wilson. He has nobody to throw to and just posted 300+ against a solid Carolina team in Carolina. Name a QB on this list with fewer weapons than Wilson.
Granted, his receivers are weak; but he has a good OLine and running game to support him. Both of those are the best of the teams discussed here.

 
Sleeper is Wilson. He has nobody to throw to and just posted 300+ against a solid Carolina team in Carolina. Name a QB on this list with fewer weapons than Wilson.
Cam has a better WR to throw to in Smith but a significantly worse line and as a result a much worse running game (especially from a consistency perspective). Give me a sound line and running game and I'll manage with my no name WRs.

 
Sleeper is Wilson. He has nobody to throw to and just posted 300+ against a solid Carolina team in Carolina. Name a QB on this list with fewer weapons than Wilson.
Cam has a better WR to throw to in Smith but a significantly worse line and as a result a much worse running game (especially from a consistency perspective). Give me a sound line and running game and I'll manage with my no name WRs.
The offensive line is where Kaep has the advantage right now. You put a lot of the new breed of QB's behind that offense, and they will produce more than where they are at now. You put Luck in that offense right now, and he runs away with this due the lineage of he and Harbaugh, yet Kaep has a big taste of Chris Ault's offense that Greg Roman is baking in.

 
Is Stafford not young? 25 is pretty young guys.

If Stafford doesn't count id honestly say its a 3 way toss up between Luck, Newton and RG3 and it really isn't close after that. I think Dalton might be there in a few years,

 
Is Stafford not young? 25 is pretty young guys.

If Stafford doesn't count id honestly say its a 3 way toss up between Luck, Newton and RG3 and it really isn't close after that. I think Dalton might be there in a few years,
I like Dalton a lot. I think he's a bit of a sleeper here.

 
Is Stafford not young? 25 is pretty young guys.

If Stafford doesn't count id honestly say its a 3 way toss up between Luck, Newton and RG3 and it really isn't close after that. I think Dalton might be there in a few years,
I like Dalton a lot. I think he's a bit of a sleeper here.
I like Dalton, but would put Tannehill equal or above him.

Is it just me or are there a lot of quality young QBs?

 
Agreed Stafford should be on this list. (not saying top of list but ON this list)

Hasn't had anything to work with other than Calvin, an a mediocre line at best.

If he puts up 30+ Td's, 4000+ yards again, (which I believe he will easily there)

Than yah he certainly should be on this list, he's young an still learning as well.

 
Honorable mention to Dalton, he's got some upside still to grown into and is allready pretty darn good.

(sleeper could be Bradford, this year should be telling for him if he stays healthy, in that offense now)

 
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Is Stafford not young? 25 is pretty young guys.

If Stafford doesn't count id honestly say its a 3 way toss up between Luck, Newton and RG3 and it really isn't close after that. I think Dalton might be there in a few years,
I like Dalton a lot. I think he's a bit of a sleeper here.
I like Dalton, but would put Tannehill equal or above him.

Is it just me or are there a lot of quality young QBs?
Since the 2004 draft there weren't a lot of great QB's drafted - Rodgers in 05, Ryan and Flacco in 08, Stafford in 09, Bradford in 10. The 11 and 12 classes look very good and 13 isn't looking too bad either with Manuel and Geno.

Despite having been in the league for 5 years Stafford is younger than Kaepernick and is less than 10 months older than Russell Wilson.

 
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College offenses have changed to be more pass friendly. NFL offenses have changed in some respects to be more similar to college offenses (spread, read option, pistol). The convergence has allowed a quicker transition to the pro game, and better developed QBs coming into the draft.

 
Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).
There were plenty of scramblers that had really good years later in their careers.

Young, Elway, Cunningham, Culpepper (ignoring the last couple)

 
If I were starting a franchise from scratch, give me Griffin. If I was only concerned with winning a superbowl this season, give me Kaepernick.

Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).
There were plenty of scramblers that had really good years later in their careers.

Young, Elway, Cunningham, Culpepper (ignoring the last couple)
You beat me to it. Drop Culpepper (never had a good season after age 27), and add Rich Gannon, instead.

 
Luck easy. Incredibly talented and intelligent. No slouch at running either. He just doesn't look as fancy as the others but gets it done and then some when he needs to.

 
Too early to say. I think Luck will have the best career when all is said and done. Speed and athleticism are fun, but pure pocket passers age the best (Brees, Brady, Peyton).
There were plenty of scramblers that had really good years later in their careers.

Young, Elway, Cunningham, Culpepper (ignoring the last couple)
Luck is as mobile as any of those guys.

I don't think the new wave of running QBs (Kaep, Newton, Griffin) will be ripping off 100+ yard rushing games into their 30s.

Sustained success at QB is mainly about passing ability and I think Luck is the most talented passer of the lot.

Doesn't mean the other guys won't be solid, but there's just something different about Luck. He has special innate talent for poise, field vision, anticipation, and playmaking. You can just tell from watching him operate that he's going to be an all-time great when the dust settles.

 
Luck easy. Incredibly talented and intelligent. No slouch at running either. He just doesn't look as fancy as the others but gets it done and then some when he needs to.
This is what I thought up until I watched the San Fran game. I thought Kaep was the complete package and his passing display on Sunday proved it. He picked apart Green Bay for an easy-looking 400 yards passing, often throwing balls before the wide receivers were open, placing them perfectly where they could be caught on the run. This kid can do *EVERYTHING*. So can Luck, and I think Luck is a safer bet, but Kaep is going to be stud for a long time. Seriously, though. Kaep threw for 400 yards and I don't think he's getting enough credit for how difficult that performance would be for any other QB not named Manning, Brees, or Rodgers. Luck has thrown for 400 yards once, and it was against a much crappier defense than the 2013 Packers. For all the talk of the read-option, if anyone was paying attention, the Packers were in Nickel and Dime for most of the game. And Kaep still threw for 400 yards. Beast mode.

That off-season thread devoted to debating between Wilson and Kaep is going to end up a complete joke for anyone on the Wilson side (as I predicted many times in that thread). Kaep is going to be a superstar for a long while.

Harbaugh deserves so much credit for drafting him. He went on record back in the 2011 draft saying he thought Kaep was the best player overall in the draft, but they knew they could get him in the 2nd round so they waited to take him. In a draft with Cam Newton, Von Miller, Julio Jones, Patrick Peterson, Aldon Smith, and AJ Green... Harbaugh might turn out to be right about those comments. If there was a start-up today, I'm pretty sure Kaep is off the board before any of those guys.

 
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