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Captain Spaulding

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Who is the most dominating player on the defensive side of the ball at the moment (last year and week 1 this year consideration)?

Ray Lewis (back to freak dominance after week 1?)

Shawn Merriman

Ed Reed

Brian Urlacher

Troy Polamalu

Lofa Tatupu

Other?

I'm voting for Troy P. He is all over the field stopping run, pass and sacking QB the way Ray Lewis was a few years ago. Just my opinion though.

 
Captain Spaulding said:
Who is the most dominating player on the defensive side of the ball at the moment (last year and week 1 this year consideration)?Ray Lewis (back to freak dominance after week 1?)Shawn Merriman Ed ReedBrian UrlacherTroy PolamaluLofa TatupuOther?I'm voting for Troy P. He is all over the field stopping run, pass and sacking QB the way Ray Lewis was a few years ago. Just my opinion though.
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Shawn Merriman I would say. Ray is over hyped IMO.
 
Urlacher is the proto-type all GM's are now looking for...

Some of these new LB's are great, but they are not on Urlacher's level at this point.

 
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Merriman and Polamalu.

I may be more impressed with Polamalu than Merriman. 'Malu is all over the place making plays. He's incredible to watch.

 
C'mon no love for Keith Bullock just because he is mild mannered? He is the no respect freak - I would take him over all of the above.

 
Yeah, I can't believe I forgot Peppers initially. Definitely on the list! Vilma as well. Sean Taylor was great with the personal fouls the other night wasn't he? So far in the NFL he's been more of a headcase than a dominating freak on defense. Just my opinion though. I haven't seen enough highlight reel stuff on Bullock to comment.

 
When I think of freakish, I think of crazy athletic ability that sets you apart from the other guys, a guy that can do everything the position requires and tends to make plays.

My votes:

S - Sean Taylor

CB - A handful of very good ones, but Deion set the "freakish bar" so high here that no one really currently seems to deserve the title.

LB - Brian Urlacher (overall); others - Merriman and Ware (early for both but certainly looking like it)

DE - Julius Peppers

DT - A handful of very good ones, but I do not know that anyone has really separated themselves the way that Sapp did back in his prime from other DTs.

I think the overall title has to go to Taylor or Peppers.

:football:

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
joffer said:
DeMarcus Ware
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Still think Dallas takes him over Shawne?
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demarcus has not even scratched the surface of his potential, the kid is a monster.not to say shawne isn't, we all know he is, but when its all said and done i think Dallas will be happy with their pick.
 
Julius Peppers has all the talent in the world but shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as truly dominant defensive players. Same would go for LaVar Arrington among other great athletes.

Jamal Williams is a dominant football player. He moves the line of scrimmage and single-handedly changes games. Shaun Rogers is the same. At end, I think Osi Umenyiora is the best up-and-coming talent around. Abraham's inconsistent and, to be fair, anyone could rush those Carolina tackles.

Ray Lewis' demise has always been greatly exaggerated. He, along with Urlacher, is still an absolute force at linebacker. Vilma makes a lot of tackles but I wouldn't speak of him in the same sentence; I don't know that he even comes close to changing the game like the other two do.

Moving into the defensive backfield, I don't look at anyone as "dominant". I think Ed Reed is still the class of football at safety, but I'm not going to say he's dominant. The DB who best fits that description is Sean Taylor, and he's a game-changing player, but again, I don't think of him when I think of dominance.

 
pantagrapher said:
Jonathan Vilma
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Disagreed. Vilma is a very good defender who looks great because he plays in a favorable scheme with absolute rubbish surrounding him. The best player on a bad defense always puts up great stats, even if he's only "very good" and not great.Mike Peterson, Al Wilson, and Brian Urlacher are all significantly better MLBs at this point in time.
Britney Spears said:
Peppers seems to be missing off this list.
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Absolutely agreed. When I saw the word "freakish" in the title, Peppers was the first name I thought of. Biggest physical freak in the entire NFL, without question. I honestly believe he could have had a career at DE, DT, LB, TE, WR, or RB if he wanted it. Maybe even safety or OL.If we're talking about dominant defenders, then Peppers is too inconsistant, but if we're talking about freaks of nature, it's Julius all the way.
 
Merriman was tearing through Galley and the entire Raiders O on Monday night

Abraham was a 1 man wrecking crew for Atlanta over Carolina

Polamalu because I'm a Steeler fan and he is THE MAN

 
Britney Spears said:
Peppers seems to be missing off this list.
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Sad that it took 9 posts for him to be mentioned. Athletically, I don't think any other player on either side of the ball can be compared to Peppers, with the possible exceptions of Ware and Merriman.
 
Seymore - Guy can play any spot on the Dline like a stud.

Meriman - Combo of size, strength and speed are simply rare.

Ware - Same as Merriman

S. Taylor - Huge body. Runs like a top flight CB. Hits like a top flight LB.

Bailey - I don't think a lot of folks realize the athlete he is.

Polomalu - Tazmanian devil

Peppers - Has the athletisism of a S with DE size.

 
The Jacket said:
Julius Peppers has all the talent in the world but shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as truly dominant defensive players. Same would go for LaVar Arrington among other great athletes.Jamal Williams is a dominant football player. He moves the line of scrimmage and single-handedly changes games. Shaun Rogers is the same. At end, I think Osi Umenyiora is the best up-and-coming talent around. Abraham's inconsistent and, to be fair, anyone could rush those Carolina tackles. Ray Lewis' demise has always been greatly exaggerated. He, along with Urlacher, is still an absolute force at linebacker. Vilma makes a lot of tackles but I wouldn't speak of him in the same sentence; I don't know that he even comes close to changing the game like the other two do.Moving into the defensive backfield, I don't look at anyone as "dominant". I think Ed Reed is still the class of football at safety, but I'm not going to say he's dominant. The DB who best fits that description is Sean Taylor, and he's a game-changing player, but again, I don't think of him when I think of dominance.
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Wow, these are very close to my picks.Up front, I'm going with Seymour. People will overlook him because you have to actually watch the games instead of looking at the numbers, and because you won't see him mentioned very often on SportsCenter, but he's the best defensive lineman in the game. Jamal Williams and Shaun Rogers are also right up there, as you stated.Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher definitely remain the best inside linebackers in the league. Merriman is up and coming, but he's not quite the complete package that Lewis and Urlacher are.Ed Reed is the guy who I still consider to be the best safety in the league. Polamalu is up there, but I wouldn't put him up there with Reed quite yet. As for Sean Taylor, if he isn't the best safety of this generation within the next couple of years, it would be a tremendous waste of talent.It's hard for me to pick a cornerback, because none of them really come close to where Deion was a few years back. Honestly, none of them are even really at the level where Ty Law was a few years ago, or even where Chris McAlister was a couple years back.
 
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Detroit DT Shaun Rogers should be on this list. Guy has ridiculous athleticism for a 330-pounder. Looks even better this year too - just ask Seahawk fans.

 
CrossEyed said:
Joey Porter needs to be in this discussion.
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Joey Porter is a very, very good player. A great player, even.But he's not even close to being the best defensive player in the league. He's not even the best defensive player on his own team.
 
Steelnation said:
DCThunder said:
No Sean Taylor love? :bag:
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All that guy can do is hit, otherwise he is wasted talent......no discipline and a headcase to boot
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I can only guess you have no idea who Sean Taylor is if you think the only thing he can do is hit and that he's a wasted talent.
 
QUEZILLA said:
Franknbeans said:
If week 1 is any indication, John Abraham
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:thumbdown: Abraham is a great talent, and will rack up double digits sacks, however, the 3+ games he will miss per year will aggravate you.John Abraham also seems to miss some of the bgigest games due to injury. Talent wise, yes he's a freak but he's far too much of a question mark to be dependable.Great game vs. Carolina. Didn't he pull his groin, though and is questionable for Week 2? Guess we'll have to wait until Thursday.
 
Klecko HOF said:
QUEZILLA said:
Franknbeans said:
If week 1 is any indication, John Abraham
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:goodposting:
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:thumbdown: Abraham is a great talent, and will rack up double digits sacks, however, the 3+ games he will miss per year will aggravate you.John Abraham also seems to miss some of the bgigest games due to injury. Talent wise, yes he's a freak but he's far too much of a question mark to be dependable.Great game vs. Carolina. Didn't he pull his groin, though and is questionable for Week 2? Guess we'll have to wait until Thursday.
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" bIG bABY " Shawn Rogers from the Detroit Leos
 
esalmons30 said:
Klecko HOF said:
QUEZILLA said:
Franknbeans said:
If week 1 is any indication, John Abraham
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:goodposting:
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:thumbdown: Abraham is a great talent, and will rack up double digits sacks, however, the 3+ games he will miss per year will aggravate you.John Abraham also seems to miss some of the bgigest games due to injury. Talent wise, yes he's a freak but he's far too much of a question mark to be dependable.Great game vs. Carolina. Didn't he pull his groin, though and is questionable for Week 2? Guess we'll have to wait until Thursday.
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" bIG bABY " Shawn Rogers from the Detroit Leos
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Rogers is solid, but one guy who SHOULD be the best is Jenkins from Carolina. That guy is ridiculously talented, but can't stay healthy.
 
As amazing as Merriman is to watch, before Foley got filled with lead Merriman didn't even play every down and would come off the field on passing situations. It's tough for me to annoint him as an "elite" player just yet, although I'm sure he's going to be there.

 
redman said:
As amazing as Merriman is to watch, before Foley got filled with lead Merriman didn't even play every down and would come off the field on passing situations. It's tough for me to annoint him as an "elite" player just yet, although I'm sure he's going to be there.
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And yet the perception of Merriman is that he is pretty much a pass-rush specialist. The fact that he was occasionaly replaced on passing downs seems to fly in the face of that.
 
joffer said:
DeMarcus Ware
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That's a guy who popped into my mindThere are many, but he's an up and comer. Seymour and Wilfork are both great, but system pleyers. PolamaloUrlacherLewis looks to have recovered. He's aged, but wiser. Al Wilson is very underrated. MerrimanAbraham has to be thereThe league is full of great players. Some are put in systems that allos them to showcase as freaks, some are not. No matter how long the list, you leave somebody off.
 
Remember a few years ago when this question would have been unanimously answered "Jevon Kearse"? What the hell happened to that guy?

 
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