Who is throwin Cassel in vs. Miami this week? (1 Viewer)

[JuSt CuZ]

Well its time to see if this no name back up can really perform. He has his first start under his belt, he has been efficient thru 2 games... If he can perform well fantasy wise we will find out against the lowly Miami squad....

McNabb might run into problems against the Steelers.....

Is this a smart play, who else is playin him, and who are you benching for Cassel?

Cassel 260-290 yards, 2/3 tds, 0/1 pick

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

 

[Koya]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I realize matchups matter, but you're taking it to a place I can't follow you. With Westy and DeSean, any run-a-the-mill catch in the flats could get housed for over 70 yards. I think McNabb is simply a no-brainer start right now.

 

[OU#1]

Kinda easy for me. It's either him, Ryan, or Griese.

 

[PatrickT]

Cutler vs NO. Cassel remains on el bencho.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

 

[acjohnson83]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

agree. except in cases of injury, depleted role players, or horrible team, go with your best player. mcnabb has none of these things so there's no reason to bench him.

 

[j3r3m3y]

Cassel is going to have a hard time with Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor in his face all day, I think starting him against Miami is a risky move.

Huh? What's that? We cut Zach? Well at least we still have... huh? We traded... well what did we get? Seriously? #######IT!

Tough few years for us Miami faithful.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

No dispute from me that McNabb is an elite player, however, the match up and match up alone is what I'm playin here, Pittsburgh is unbreakable on DEF at times, Miami just got laced for a ton af fantasy points thru the air from Arizona, I think BB notices that, and as far as over thinking, I benched P. Manning for a. Rodgers last week and it payed off in another league, now what if McNabb puts up the game he did last night, I still think Cassel throws more TD's next week! AND THIS IS A TD HEAVY LEAGUE!Does everyone forget Cassel has played well, and still has weapons?

 

[Lash]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=423029

go ahead and post in the above "Brain Farts" thread in advance, so you won't have to use the search function to find it next week

 

[knowledge dropper]

Over Palmer vs. Giants? Certainly

 

[SierraKiloBravo]

Considering it. I have Kitna and Campbell as my other QBs (gag).

 

[3C's]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

No dispute from me that McNabb is an elite player, however, the match up and match up alone is what I'm playin here, Pittsburgh is unbreakable on DEF at times, Miami just got laced for a ton af fantasy points thru the air from Arizona, I think BB notices that, and as far as over thinking, I benched P. Manning for a. Rodgers last week and it payed off in another league, now what if McNabb puts up the game he did last night, I still think Cassel throws more TD's next week! AND THIS IS A TD HEAVY LEAGUE!Does everyone forget Cassel has played well, and still has weapons?

RodgersvManning is a lot closer than McNabbvCassel. Cassel: 200/1McNabb: 275/2

 

[Fantaholic]

Until McNabb gets hurt, he's unbenchable as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Over Schaub @ TEN.

 

[cws3030]

i'm thinking of using him over big ben vs. philly

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Cassel over Edwards ( )

 

[mektarus]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

Me too. (former Brady owner ) I, personally, have O'Sullivan in my lineup right now. Any offense playing Detroit should be gold. I can definitely see another 300+ day for JTO with 2-3 td's. I think they will still be conservative with Cassel this week. 220 & 1td is all I expect. Of course, it's only Wednesday, so there is plenty of opportunity for me to go back and forth several times.

 

[jurrassic]

I'm trying to trade Schaub and Chris Perry for Cassell and Grant. May start Cassell with that matchup.

 

[H.K.]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

No dispute from me that McNabb is an elite player, however, the match up and match up alone is what I'm playin here, Pittsburgh is unbreakable on DEF at times, Miami just got laced for a ton af fantasy points thru the air from Arizona, I think BB notices that, and as far as over thinking, I benched P. Manning for a. Rodgers last week and it payed off in another league, now what if McNabb puts up the game he did last night, I still think Cassel throws more TD's next week! AND THIS IS A TD HEAVY LEAGUE!Does everyone forget Cassel has played well, and still has weapons?

McNabb only had one TD pass vs. Dallas, and he is guaranteed to get shut out vs. Pitt.

Cassel won't be much better but at least he has an outside chance to possibly throw for one TD this week.

 

[Kuz]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

No dispute from me that McNabb is an elite player, however, the match up and match up alone is what I'm playin here, Pittsburgh is unbreakable on DEF at times, Miami just got laced for a ton af fantasy points thru the air from Arizona, I think BB notices that, and as far as over thinking, I benched P. Manning for a. Rodgers last week and it payed off in another league, now what if McNabb puts up the game he did last night, I still think Cassel throws more TD's next week! AND THIS IS A TD HEAVY LEAGUE!Does everyone forget Cassel has played well, and still has weapons?

McNabb only had one TD pass vs. Dallas, and he is guaranteed to get shut out vs. Pitt.

Cassel won't be much better but at least he has an outside chance to possibly throw for one TD this week.

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

 

[H.K.]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

No dispute from me that McNabb is an elite player, however, the match up and match up alone is what I'm playin here, Pittsburgh is unbreakable on DEF at times, Miami just got laced for a ton af fantasy points thru the air from Arizona, I think BB notices that, and as far as over thinking, I benched P. Manning for a. Rodgers last week and it payed off in another league, now what if McNabb puts up the game he did last night, I still think Cassel throws more TD's next week! AND THIS IS A TD HEAVY LEAGUE!Does everyone forget Cassel has played well, and still has weapons?

McNabb only had one TD pass vs. Dallas, and he is guaranteed to get shut out vs. Pitt.

Cassel won't be much better but at least he has an outside chance to possibly throw for one TD this week.

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

Nope, he only threw one.

We saw what the Steelers did to Anderson, Edwards & Winslow...no way the Eagles do any better this week.

 

[northern exposure]

Over Palmer vs. Giants? Certainly

Those are my choices as well. I'm rolling with Cassel, but I'm nervous about it.

 

[perry147]

Is Cassel a FA next year? Can the pats put the franchise tag on him or in anyway prevent him from leaving?

 

[Kuz]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

No dispute from me that McNabb is an elite player, however, the match up and match up alone is what I'm playin here, Pittsburgh is unbreakable on DEF at times, Miami just got laced for a ton af fantasy points thru the air from Arizona, I think BB notices that, and as far as over thinking, I benched P. Manning for a. Rodgers last week and it payed off in another league, now what if McNabb puts up the game he did last night, I still think Cassel throws more TD's next week! AND THIS IS A TD HEAVY LEAGUE!Does everyone forget Cassel has played well, and still has weapons?

McNabb only had one TD pass vs. Dallas, and he is guaranteed to get shut out vs. Pitt.

Cassel won't be much better but at least he has an outside chance to possibly throw for one TD this week.

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

Nope, he only threw one.

We saw what the Steelers did to Anderson, Edwards & Winslow...no way the Eagles do any better this week.

sarcasm right..

 

[24seven]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

That is reasonable.Between he and McNabb? Ridiculous.

Yeah, I have to agree. Don't overthink things.

No dispute from me that McNabb is an elite player, however, the match up and match up alone is what I'm playin here, Pittsburgh is unbreakable on DEF at times, Miami just got laced for a ton af fantasy points thru the air from Arizona, I think BB notices that, and as far as over thinking, I benched P. Manning for a. Rodgers last week and it payed off in another league, now what if McNabb puts up the game he did last night, I still think Cassel throws more TD's next week! AND THIS IS A TD HEAVY LEAGUE!Does everyone forget Cassel has played well, and still has weapons?

McNabb only had one TD pass vs. Dallas, and he is guaranteed to get shut out vs. Pitt.

Cassel won't be much better but at least he has an outside chance to possibly throw for one TD this week.

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

Nope, he only threw one.

We saw what the Steelers did to Anderson, Edwards & Winslow...no way the Eagles do any better this week.

So........you are saying that MCnabb, westy, desean, and LJ don't create more of matchup problems than Cleveland?? You can't be serious. The steelers run a 3-4 d as do the cowboys. And who have the steelers played so far, the texans and browns......exactly. For you to say "no way the Eagles do any better this week" is plain crazy!! Every team in the league HAS to respect westy.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I'm starting Cassel over Derek Anderson and Matt Schaub without hesitation.

 

[greedygoat]

Cassel over Edwards ( )

Same here.

 

[djjosee]

I'm starting Cassel over Derek Anderson and Matt Schaub without hesitation.

Same here ... less Anderson

 

[JamesTheScot]

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

Nope, he only threw one.

We saw what the Steelers did to Anderson, Edwards & Winslow...no way the Eagles do any better this week.

Are you being sarcastic or do you not know that he connected with D.Jackson for that instant classic follies highlight.I'm going with Cassell as my beginning roster consisted of Brady, Garcia and Beck. Early August drafts suck. You can see what my options are below.

At this point I'm keeping Cassell rather than trying to trade for one of the 10-20 ranked QB's. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that BB is going to open things up as Cassell continues to show he can run things mistake free. BB is smart. He knows he won't be able to hide Cassell for long from opposing D's. I think he's just making sure Cassell has his sea legs and isn't trying to do too much all at once. At some point he's going to let Cassell take more deep shots. If Cassell can do it, he's going to be top 10 material. I just hope I can wait that long without piling up too many L's.

 

[lion_crazz]

I cannot believe you guys have this much faith in Cassel. He played the Jets last week and recorded terrible fantasy numbers. He only completed two passes to Randy Moss. I don't care if the guy is double teamed or not, Brady can find him the ball. Cassel did not.

McNabb is an elite QB. The Eagles throw the ball a lot, now. The Patriots are only scoring enough points to win, much like the way they played 5 or 6 years ago.

 

[H.K.]

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

Nope, he only threw one.

We saw what the Steelers did to Anderson, Edwards & Winslow...no way the Eagles do any better this week.

Are you being sarcastic or do you not know that he connected with D.Jackson for that instant classic follies highlight.

That play was not a TD, Westbrook ran it in. McNabb only threw one TD pass last week. I provided the link to the stats. Not sure where the argument is here?

1-10-PHI 39 (7:53) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 10-D.Jackson for 61 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Dallas challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 10-D.Jackson to DAL 1 for 60 yards. FUMBLES, declared dead at DAL 1.

1-1-DAL 1 (7:38) 36-B.Westbrook up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.

2-D.Akers extra point is GOOD, Center-46-J.Dorenbos, Holder-6-S.Rocca.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

I cannot believe you guys have this much faith in Cassel. He played the Jets last week and recorded terrible fantasy numbers. He only completed two passes to Randy Moss. I don't care if the guy is double teamed or not, Brady can find him the ball. Cassel did not. McNabb is an elite QB. The Eagles throw the ball a lot, now. The Patriots are only scoring enough points to win, much like the way they played 5 or 6 years ago.

"Opening it up" and 2007 are 2 completely different things. I don't think any rational person expects even close to last year. Most of those starting Cassel, myself included, are hoping for exactly what the Pats are hoping for - no mistakes, some yards, maybe a TD or 2 (read as gravy). As it stands right now Cassel is prepping for his 2nd start. His 2nd start. And he looked better than Jackson did in Min or Russel did in both his starts. He's a back end, high upside guy right now. I think it's ridiculous to think that the Pats will "open up the playbook" anything close to what Brady would get, but then again Cassel could surprise. If you had Brady and you are rolling with Cassel it's out of necessity, not desire.

 

[Road Warriors]

Is Cassel a FA next year? Can the pats put the franchise tag on him or in anyway prevent him from leaving?

They could, but would you pay Cassel the avg of the top 5 QBs salaries? No chance that happens.

 

[red]

for me it's a tough call between cassel vs. mia and JT Osullivan vs. det. i'm leaning towards detroit, mainly because of the match up and JTO gaining confidence/momentum. i suspect the pats are easing cassell into the job and play mistake-free football. i.e. don't ask him to win games for you, just ask him to not lose them for you and let your defense, special teams and RBBC control the game.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

for me it's a tough call between cassel vs. mia and JT Osullivan vs. det. i'm leaning towards detroit, mainly because of the match up and JTO gaining confidence/momentum. i suspect the pats are easing cassell into the job and play mistake-free football. i.e. don't ask him to win games for you, just ask him to not lose them for you and let your defense, special teams and RBBC control the game.

When in doubt, play the hate card (Martz <-> Lions).

 

[YoUnG GuNz]

Benching a top 3 QB for a career backup (in the NFL and college). You're INSANE.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Benching a top 3 QB for a career backup (in the NFL and college). You're INSANE.

Cassel has Weapons still as well....Remember Brady never threw 30 td's in his Career until last year, I would say Moss can do something for ya!!!

 

[David Yudkin]

Is Cassel a FA next year? Can the pats put the franchise tag on him or in anyway prevent him from leaving?

They could, but would you pay Cassel the avg of the top 5 QBs salaries? No chance that happens.

Pats will have roughly a $15 million cap hit next year. Franchise tag next year for QB should approach $13 million. Can't see the Pats burning $27-28 million on ONE position.

 

[David Yudkin]

Benching a top 3 QB for a career backup (in the NFL and college). You're INSANE.

Cassel has Weapons still as well....Remember Brady never threw 30 td's in his Career until last year, I would say Moss can do something for ya!!!

We'll see. IMO, it won't matter if Moss is on the team or not if the Pats crawl into a shell and run a conservative game plan (which there is a high probablility of).

 

[Avery]

Need to decide between him and O'Sully.

Me too. (former Brady owner ) I, personally, have O'Sullivan in my lineup right now. Any offense playing Detroit should be gold. I can definitely see another 300+ day for JTO with 2-3 td's. I think they will still be conservative with Cassel this week. 220 & 1td is all I expect. Of course, it's only Wednesday, so there is plenty of opportunity for me to go back and forth several times.

Just picked O'Sullivan off the wire so I'm right there with you.As of now I have O'Sullivan in my lineup but with my scoring FBG has Cassel ranked a few spots higher is giving me a bit of pause.Right now, I just can't see sitting O'Sullivan and Martz' offense against Detroit.

 

[renesauz]

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

Nope, he only threw one.

We saw what the Steelers did to Anderson, Edwards & Winslow...no way the Eagles do any better this week.

Are you being sarcastic or do you not know that he connected with D.Jackson for that instant classic follies highlight.

That play was not a TD, Westbrook ran it in. McNabb only threw one TD pass last week. I provided the link to the stats. Not sure where the argument is here?

1-10-PHI 39 (7:53) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 10-D.Jackson for 61 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Dallas challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 10-D.Jackson to DAL 1 for 60 yards. FUMBLES, declared dead at DAL 1.

1-1-DAL 1 (7:38) 36-B.Westbrook up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.

2-D.Akers extra point is GOOD, Center-46-J.Dorenbos, Holder-6-S.Rocca.

The problem is that you are clearly McNabb has played lights out to this point this season, and there are only 3-4 options worth even considering ahead of him, even with a less then ideal matchup. CASSEL IS NOT one of them!ETA: Are you playing against the OP this week? In which case.... for trying.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

Nope, he only threw one.

We saw what the Steelers did to Anderson, Edwards & Winslow...no way the Eagles do any better this week.

Are you being sarcastic or do you not know that he connected with D.Jackson for that instant classic follies highlight.

That play was not a TD, Westbrook ran it in. McNabb only threw one TD pass last week. I provided the link to the stats. Not sure where the argument is here?

1-10-PHI 39 (7:53) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 10-D.Jackson for 61 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Dallas challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 10-D.Jackson to DAL 1 for 60 yards. FUMBLES, declared dead at DAL 1.

1-1-DAL 1 (7:38) 36-B.Westbrook up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.

2-D.Akers extra point is GOOD, Center-46-J.Dorenbos, Holder-6-S.Rocca.

The problem is that you are clearly McNabb has played lights out to this point this season, and there are only 3-4 options worth even considering ahead of him, even with a less then ideal matchup. CASSEL IS NOT one of them!ETA: Are you playing against the OP this week? In which case.... for trying.

No, but he does have Moss!!!

 

[Pictus Cat]

Hello friend,

Starting Cassel

over Garrard & Young

Hoping Jax Oline and/or Cassel improve ASAP going forward.

Young may soon be a roster casualty for byes.

 

[Sup_Yo]

i'm thinking of using him over big ben vs. philly

Me too... and likely will.

 

[TDavi118]

i'm thinking of using him over big ben vs. philly

Me too... and likely will.

Last minute bump. I'm starting Cassell over Big Ben as well. Probably regret it but I'm doin' it.

 

[kupcho1]

Come on.. we all know he had 2 & threw for about 280 yards.. I'm all for Cassell having a good matchup but I hope you were joking about McNabb getting shutout this week.. I think you are but not sure..

Nope, he only threw one.

We saw what the Steelers did to Anderson, Edwards & Winslow...no way the Eagles do any better this week.

Are you being sarcastic or do you not know that he connected with D.Jackson for that instant classic follies highlight.

That play was not a TD, Westbrook ran it in. McNabb only threw one TD pass last week. I provided the link to the stats. Not sure where the argument is here?

1-10-PHI 39 (7:53) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 10-D.Jackson for 61 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Dallas challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 10-D.Jackson to DAL 1 for 60 yards. FUMBLES, declared dead at DAL 1.

1-1-DAL 1 (7:38) 36-B.Westbrook up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.

2-D.Akers extra point is GOOD, Center-46-J.Dorenbos, Holder-6-S.Rocca.

The problem is that you are clearly McNabb has played lights out to this point this season, and there are only 3-4 options worth even considering ahead of him, even with a less then ideal matchup. CASSEL IS NOT one of them!ETA: Are you playing against the OP this week? In which case.... for trying.

@ people responding to H.K.

 

[Sup_Yo]

i'm thinking of using him over big ben vs. philly

Me too... and likely will.

Last minute bump. I'm starting Cassell over Big Ben as well. Probably regret it but I'm doin' it.

I have since changed my mind. Big Ben gets the start for me.

 

[duckie]

Over Garrard and Delhomme...yuk.