Who QBs Arizona Next Year? (1 Viewer)

[guderian]

They have some offensive weapons (Fitzgerald, Breaston, Doucet, Roberts, Wells, Hightower), so whoever ends up starting there could be productive.

One of the QBs on the Roster?

Dereck Anderson 54% completion %, 6.4 YPA 5/7 TD/INT ratio

Max Hall 51% completion %, 4.8 YPA, 1/5 TD/INT

John Skelton

Free Agent?

John Beck

Kellen Clemens

Kerry Collins

Brodie Croyle

Brett Favre

Charlie Frye

Bruce Gradkowski

Brian Griese

Matt Hasselbeck

Shaun Hill

Kevin Kolb

Donovan McNabb

J.T. O'Sullivan

Chad Pennington

Sage Rosenfels

Troy Smith

Drew Stanton

Tyler Thigpen

Michael Vick

Billy Volek

Seneca Wallace

Rookie?

 

[Insein]

Donovan McNabb.

 

[RBM]

McNabb or Vick

 

[Chaka]

Matt Leinart

 

[Inspiration]

Nobody knows. FWIW, the general belief among local media is that the organization isn't particularly high on Donovan McNabb. That's not to say he isn't vastly superior to anything they have on the roster right now, but I wouldn't consider a McNabb-to-Arizona move in 2011 as anything close to a lock.

 

[Black]

Donovan McNabb.

x2

 

[TommyGilmore]

Brett Favre.

 

[Sammy Traveller]

McNabb's from Arizona, right? That would be cool.

 

[RBM]

McNabb's from Arizona, right? That would be cool.

No, Chicago

 

[bleedgreen]

Probably McNabb...he already spends his off-seasons in Arizona

 

[Jason Wood]

When all the stuff started going down in Washington this past week, I immediately thought Donovan would wind up in Arizona next year as their starter. It makes too much sense.

 

[ourmanflint]

It definitely won't be Max Hall. The guy looks like a woman out there.

 

[CrossEyed]

Kurt Warner comes back out of retirement and leads the Cardinals to SB victory over the Steelers, adding another chapter to his already ridiculous story.

It could happen.

 

[shakaka]

Brett Favre comes back out of retirement and leads the Cardinals to SB victory over the Steelers, adding another chapter to his already ridiculous story.

It could happen.

 

[ScottyDog]

I say McNabb, or maybe Kolb in a trade. Vick will be an Eagle.

McNabb or Vick

 

[D'OHtis]

I would guess McNabb or Kolb. (The way Vick is playing I think it's a no brainer he'll be the future in Philly. Just at another level right now). If hat fails, I would guess someone like Marc Bulger.

They'll want to make Larry happy this offseason.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

When all the stuff started going down in Washington this past week, I immediately thought Donovan would wind up in Arizona next year as their starter. It makes too much sense.

While I will not be surprised if McNabb ends up in Arizona, I disagree with the notion that "it makes too much sense". It really doesn't make that much sense at all. Arizona is not "one player away" from a Super Bowl (a la Brett Favre with the Vikings). They are a young team that should be building for the future, not going for the short-term fix. And McNabb would absolutely be a short-term fix -- he's been aging like a dog the last couple of years, and at this rate he might not make it to 2012.I will make this prediction, however: if McNabb does end up in Arizona in 2011, I predict that eventually he loses the starting gig.

 

[Slevin Kelevra]

Helter Skelton

 

[mr roboto]

Helter Skelton

He's got the arm and the size. But I guess he is unstartable if he hasn't gotten in there this year.I've got him on my bench in a QB-heavy scoring 2QB league. Just hoping he develops into his talent.

 

[Blackjacks]

I could see them going with Anderson heading into next year after drafting Ryan Mallet in the first round.

Kid has a cannon

 

[jsharlan]

I wish they would give Skelton a shot, hell what have they got to lose with those two Nancys in front of him.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

I wish they would give Skelton a shot, hell what have they got to lose with those two Nancys in front of him.

The most popular player on the team is always the backup quarterback. Until he actually gets into the game.

 

[Traders2001]

McNabb would be even worst then what they have right now , McNabb gets a job because of what he did in the past not because of his present performances ( He is Finished )

 

[Grahamburn]

Kolb should be the guy they go after. Anyone else is a bandaid.

 

[BallparkFrank]

Every mock draft out there seemingly has Locker/Luck/Mallett with 1st round grades, so the draft will definitely have some options if a FA doesn't pan out.

 

[marshall88]

Kolb should be the guy they go after. Anyone else is a bandaid.

Kolb is not a FA next year. Philly signed him to a 1 yr. extension and front-loaded most of the money so they don't pay him very much next season. I think there's very little chance Philly waives or trades Kolb even if he's only their backup QB. Link

 

[jsharlan]

Vick is in the last year of his contract right? I can't imagine how Philly can keep both Vick and Kolb next year, one of them has got to go.

 

[marshall88]

Vick is in the last year of his contract right? I can't imagine how Philly can keep both Vick and Kolb next year, one of them has got to go.

They either sign Vick to a long term deal, or they franchise him. Kolb only costs Philly about $1.5M next year, so they'll keep him as insurance.

 

[taylor99]

McNabb or Jake Locker

 

[Richard_the_Vampire]

Kerry Collins.

 

[Grahamburn]

Kolb should be the guy they go after. Anyone else is a bandaid.

Kolb is not a FA next year. Philly signed him to a 1 yr. extension and front-loaded most of the money so they don't pay him very much next season. I think there's very little chance Philly waives or trades Kolb even if he's only their backup QB. Link

Vick is in the last year of his contract right? I can't imagine how Philly can keep both Vick and Kolb next year, one of them has got to go.

Exactly. Arizona should make Philadelphia an offer they can't refuse for Kolb. I doubt the Eagles would turn down a second round pick.

 

[Captain Hook]

McNabb's from Arizona, right? That would be cool.

No, Chicago

McNabb LIVES in Arizona......IIRC, just down the street or Very close to FitzgeraldAs suggested McNabb is not the long term answer for the Cardinals, but whether they decide Skelton and/or Hall is worth grooming or decide the opposite and draft one of the good qbs in next year's draft, McNabb would be a pretty good mentor who would also give them a chance to win for his year or two

 

[Grahamburn]

Kolb should be the guy they go after. Anyone else is a bandaid.

Kolb is not a FA next year. Philly signed him to a 1 yr. extension and front-loaded most of the money so they don't pay him very much next season. I think there's very little chance Philly waives or trades Kolb even if he's only their backup QB. Link

Vick is in the last year of his contract right? I can't imagine how Philly can keep both Vick and Kolb next year, one of them has got to go.

Exactly. Arizona should make Philadelphia an offer they can't refuse for Kolb. I doubt the Eagles would turn down a second round pick.

It looks like Larry wants Kolb as well. Can you blame him?

Star players influencing team decisions isn't a new concept, but Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt wants to make it clear that only he and the franchise's front office pull the trigger on personnel moves.

Whisenhunt spoke to the Arizona Republic on Tuesday and confirmed that he's discussed the Cardinals' quarterback options for 2011 with Pro Bowl receiver Larry Fitzgerald. On Sunday, ESPN reported that the team had solicited Fitzgerald's opinion and learned that Eagles backup Kevin Kolb was his top choice.

Whisenhunt told the newspaper that discussions with players on his team are normal procedure.

"You're very aware that we have an open-door policy," said Whisenhunt.

"We solicit input from players on a lot of things; game plans, plays, travel to the East Coast. Things in training camp. When I was interviewed (in 2007), they had players who were a portion of the interviews."

Whisenhunt said Fitzgerald wasn't the only player he's spoken to. With one year left on his contract, though, Fitzgerald is a key part of the Cardinals' future. If Arizona can upgrade at QB, Fitzgerald is more likely to sign a new deal.

The Cardinals jettisoned former first-round pick Matt Leinart before the season began and used Derek Anderson, Richard Bartel, Max Hall and John Skelton at QB this past campaign. All four were equally ineffective, with Anderson's 65.9 rating the best of the bunch.

Arizona has the fifth overall pick in April's draft and could consider selecting a QB if it doesn't sign or trade for one. Regardless of what they do, Whisenhunt is adamant that the decision is the front office's to make.

"Larry is obviously not making the decisions," said Whisenhunt. "There's a lot of things that guys want that they don't necessarily get. That's why I have individual meetings with them to get their ideas.

"It would make sense to at least talk to some of your players."

I realize Whisenhunt is downplaying Fitzgerald's comments, but if the NFL and PA can get an agreement in place the Cardinals will go hard after Kolb.

 

[Federal]

I am going to concede to Larry here; but Kolb looks like a weak armed (but accurate), indecisive, career backup up who forgets his mechanics in the face of anything resembling a pass rush.

If the Cards give anything more than a conditional 3rd rounder for Kolb I will have to assume Larry & co. know/see a little something more than I do.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I am going to concede to Larry here; but Kolb looks like a weak armed (but accurate), indecisive, career backup up who forgets his mechanics in the face of anything resembling a pass rush. If the Cards give anything more than a conditional 3rd rounder for Kolb I will have to assume Larry & co. know/see a little something more than I do.

Kolb's arm strength is more than fine. Also, he can be very decisive, and in his good games, he got rid of the ball fast and had great timing with Celek and the WRs. He is spooked by bad protection and pressure. He is mediocre starter or a great backup - compare him to Sanchez, Cutler, Eli, Cassel, Garrard, and guys like that and he's at least in the ballpark if not better than some of those. He's not elite, but a team can win with him, especially if they're in a weak divisionSome team is going to give more than a conditional 3rd, so if that's all Whisenhunt wants to give, they're not getting him. Seems pretty clear Whisenhunt has NO interest in McNabb no matter how close McNabb's house is to U of Phoenix Stadium.

 

[D'OHtis]

IMO The likelihood:

Bulger (w/o question IMO he'd have been the starter last year had the Cards not signed Derek Anderson early on & had Leinart on roster)

Orton

Kolb

My #1 preference is Orton, but obviously any of the 3 are upgrades. If Philly goes for a Cassel-like return for Kolb, Cards could be players.

A lot change change, but I don't see them going QB (or offense) round 1.

 

[Bri]

They should cut em' all (or trade) and start over.

I don't like the FA QB list (doubt Vick is, when it matters) at all this year. They are going to have to trade and/or draft someone.

At least half that list is replaced by rookies or bumped by last year's rookies. They're just not that good and have been given a chance.

QB is important. A ton of teams cave after a Supe run. They might have to make an unpopular decision here and if so trade away some players while they have value.

 

[Spike]

I am going to concede to Larry here; but Kolb looks like a weak armed (but accurate), indecisive, career backup up who forgets his mechanics in the face of anything resembling a pass rush.

If the Cards give anything more than a conditional 3rd rounder for Kolb I will have to assume Larry & co. know/see a little something more than I do.

Kolb's arm strength is more than fine. Also, he can be very decisive, and in his good games, he got rid of the ball fast and had great timing with Celek and the WRs. He is spooked by bad protection and pressure. He is mediocre starter or a great backup - compare him to Sanchez, Cutler, Eli, Cassel, Garrard, and guys like that and he's at least in the ballpark if not better than some of those. He's not elite, but a team can win with him, especially if they're in a weak divisionSome team is going to give more than a conditional 3rd, so if that's all Whisenhunt wants to give, they're not getting him.

Seems pretty clear Whisenhunt has NO interest in McNabb no matter how close McNabb's house is to U of Phoenix Stadium.

Not for this year. There's no way there will be a CBA in place before the draft so there won't be able to be any "player X for draft pick Y" deals that can be made.

 

[Bri]

There's no way there will be a CBA in place before the draft so there won't be able to be any "player X for draft pick Y" deals that can be made.

There will not be a draft until there is a CBA.It would either be illegal to have it or once it's done, it would then be illegal.Heard some guy rant on slavery laws in the US. (Seriously and grrr I guess the guy had a point)There are union laws about hiring workers during a strike.The rooks could then form their own union since they seem to be taking the biggest hit in this CBA.It's too much "ya gotta be kidding me" type stuff that comes up if they have one.

 

[Federal]

Arizona Cardinals: Kevin Kolb Weighs In, Hopes to Play With Fitzgerald, Arizona

"If he's not the best than he's one of the best WRs in the NFL—a superstar," Kolb said of Fitzgerald. "For a guy like that to say something about me it means a lot. Awful flattering and if something happens I hope [the Arizona Cardinals'] name comes up."

 

[Ilov80s]

When all the stuff started going down in Washington this past week, I immediately thought Donovan would wind up in Arizona next year as their starter. It makes too much sense.

While I will not be surprised if McNabb ends up in Arizona, I disagree with the notion that "it makes too much sense". It really doesn't make that much sense at all. Arizona is not "one player away" from a Super Bowl (a la Brett Favre with the Vikings). They are a young team that should be building for the future, not going for the short-term fix. And McNabb would absolutely be a short-term fix -- he's been aging like a dog the last couple of years, and at this rate he might not make it to 2012.I will make this prediction, however: if McNabb does end up in Arizona in 2011, I predict that eventually he loses the starting gig.

Vikings makes a lot more sense for McNabb.

 

[Nagle2998]

There's no way there will be a CBA in place before the draft so there won't be able to be any "player X for draft pick Y" deals that can be made.

There will not be a draft until there is a CBA.It would either be illegal to have it or once it's done, it would then be illegal.Heard some guy rant on slavery laws in the US. (Seriously and grrr I guess the guy had a point)There are union laws about hiring workers during a strike.The rooks could then form their own union since they seem to be taking the biggest hit in this CBA.It's too much "ya gotta be kidding me" type stuff that comes up if they have one.

Not sure at all where you heard that but everything I have heard said the exact opposite that there will be a draft with or without a CBA they just can't sign anyone they draft. As for Kolb I think it would take a 2nd plus to get him and after looking at the Qb's in free agency and the draft to me thats a steal. For whatever reason people are down on Kolb but in 6 starts he won player of the week twice he is good enough to win with if you have a decent line something Philly didnt have this year.

 

[Grid71]

There's no way there will be a CBA in place before the draft so there won't be able to be any "player X for draft pick Y" deals that can be made.

There will not be a draft until there is a CBA.It would either be illegal to have it or once it's done, it would then be illegal.Heard some guy rant on slavery laws in the US. (Seriously and grrr I guess the guy had a point)There are union laws about hiring workers during a strike.The rooks could then form their own union since they seem to be taking the biggest hit in this CBA.It's too much "ya gotta be kidding me" type stuff that comes up if they have one.

Not sure at all where you heard that but everything I have heard said the exact opposite that there will be a draft with or without a CBA they just can't sign anyone they draft. As for Kolb I think it would take a 2nd plus to get him and after looking at the Qb's in free agency and the draft to me thats a steal. For whatever reason people are down on Kolb but in 6 starts he won player of the week twice he is good enough to win with if you have a decent line something Philly didnt have this year.

Would be crazy if the entire draft class goes back in the pool for next year's draft if we don't have football in 2011. BB's three 1st rounders (includes 1st pick 2nd round) could turn into dust in the wind.

 

[lod01]

I hope it's Vince Young but Fitzgerald won't stand for that. Pretty sure Whisenhut won't want the bum either. He's a career killer.

 

[rjv]

Trade Kolb and D Jax for Fitz. I would do it in a second.