Who should be the NFL MVP? (post-week 14 poll) (1 Viewer)

[skinsrule05]

With Brady having his second sub-par game in a row I assume he is out of this discussion. So it is down to AP and Manning. I always thought AP would need the record and make the playoffs to win this QB centered award. At this point I would think it is Mannings to lose.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Rodgers has to be back in the discussion, so I'd say it is still a three-way race between Rodgers, Manning and Peterson. Many will back off the AD MVP talk after today, but I'd still give it to him.

 

[Fly]

Because Brady and the Pats are still doing things that others have not. You are basically saying that both the Pats and NE are doing things that THEY have done before, not others.

At this point, Brady is on pace for 40 total TD (when you add in rushing TD). He currently has accounted for 32 TD to just 4 turnovers. NE is on pace for 581 points scored (a handful less than their record breaking season). They lost 3 games this year . . . by 1, 1, and 2 points . . . all on the last play of the game.

Brady may not win, but he certainly has a resume this year to merit him being one of the front runners for MVP.

Brady and Manning are having great seasons, but not all-time great seasons. Meanwhile CJ, Aldon Smith and possibly Watt are. I think that's relevant.Like most people (I suspect), I don't think of the MVP as literally being the 'most valuable' player (what that even means is up for debate). You could easily make the argument that RG3 is actually the most valuable player to his team this year. But that doesn't mean he should get the MVP (maybe it should!).

I think of the MVP as the player that does the most with the least (team situation wise, I don't mean relative to their own ability). Brady does a lot, but he's also on a great team that's proven it can win games without him. Manning has increased the play of the Broncos a tremendous amount, but they actually won a playoff game last year.

Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson, on the other hand, are putting up monster seasons on teams that aren't as good and can't gain yards any other way (Lions are 21st in rushing, Viks are dead last in passing). To me that matters.

If your idea of MVP is literally the "most valuable" player, how do you interpret that? Is it the player who's team would have the biggest drop in performance without him? If so, I'd put Brady behind Peterson, Rodgers, RG3 and probably some other people. Is it who's having, statistically, the best season? If so Brady, who's having a great season, is behind CJ, Aldon Smith, and JJ Watt who will likely have historic seasons.

The only interpretation in which I see Brady as the front runner is the following:

QB is the most important position, therefore the MVP should be the QB that's done the most, regardless of team situation (meaning being on a great team doesn't penalize you). That's definitely Brady.

I find it ridiculous that you include Aldon Smith in the MVP conversation based on your criteria (that 49er defense is loaded). Justin Smith is more valuable to SF than Aldon is. Aldon Smith just reaps the benefits on the stat sheet.

 

[Joe Summer]

ADP may be the "most valuable," but I don't see him winning the award if the Vikings don't make the playoffs, and even then he might be a long shot.

Here's why that's a dumb philosophy:Let's say that Minnesota, Chicago, and the Giants all lose this week. In that scenario, Minnesota would make the playoffs if Washington beat Dallas in the Sunday night game.

Does anyone really think that Peterson's MVP chances should reside on the outcome of a game that takes place AFTER Peterson (and all the other MVP candidates) had completed the regular season?? Think about how ludicrous it would be to say, "Peterson is the MVP if Washington wins, but he's not the MVP if Washington loses."

 

[David Yudkin]

ADP may be the "most valuable," but I don't see him winning the award if the Vikings don't make the playoffs, and even then he might be a long shot.

Here's why that's a dumb philosophy:Let's say that Minnesota, Chicago, and the Giants all lose this week. In that scenario, Minnesota would make the playoffs if Washington beat Dallas in the Sunday night game.

Does anyone really think that Peterson's MVP chances should reside on the outcome of a game that takes place AFTER Peterson (and all the other MVP candidates) had completed the regular season?? Think about how ludicrous it would be to say, "Peterson is the MVP if Washington wins, but he's not the MVP if Washington loses."

I didn't say it was right, I didn't say that it made sense, and I didn't say that's how I would vote. But that IS how the voters vote. Don't hate the messenger, hate the message. If MIN is out of the playoffs, I doubt Peterson will be the MVP.Jamaal Lewis and Chris Johnson each had 2K rushing yard seasons. Lewis got 5 votes and Johnson got 1 vote.