Who wants TED GINN? (1 Viewer)

[stbugs]

2 TDs good enough for the start?

 

[stbugs]

Me too. I have no other options in one league, but I think he will do fine as WR3 this week. In PPR, I think he has that 8-10 point floor and a ceiling of 15-20 if Cam and he can connect on that play that I have seen happen every week where he breaks wide open. So far, they haven't really connecting on the bomb, but he's had a wide open long TD chance every single week. Hopefully, I am not jinxing it, but based on what I have seen (and TB), he and Cam are due to connect on one.

Not a bad call. He was due, although the 15.8 so far I've got is surprisingly on short(er) TDs. He may get to my ceiling of 18-20, just harder since they won't pass a lot.LOL I can't even read my own post right. He already hit my 15-20 ceiling.

 

[NajehHejan]

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ted-ginn-jr-thriving-in-no-pressure-environment-in-carolina/14969661/

Ted Ginn Jr. thriving in no pressure environment

 

[devouredbychaos]

He's currently my WR3 due to injuries. Not sure how to feel about that, but at least he's been productive. As long as he keeps getting targets and Funchess doesn't do anything, he'll be fantasy relevant.

 

[FUBAR]

He's currently my WR3 due to injuries. Not sure how to feel about that, but at least he's been productive. As long as he keeps getting targets and Funchess doesn't do anything, he'll be fantasy relevant.

I call him my wr3 but really he's become my wr2 over Mike Evans and Roddy white

 

[Futz]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

 

[FF Ninja]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

Yeah, he's only averaging 6.25 targets a game. The problem is that Newton doesn't typically throw the ball that much. They key is predicting when he will, because Ginn is getting about 21% of his targets, which I think falls in the range for #1 WRs. For example, Hilton was getting 22.7% last year. Luck just threw the ball a lot more. So the question is, will the Panthers be forced to throw the ball this week or will Stewart be able to run on Seattle?

 

[Futz]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

Yeah, he's only averaging 6.25 targets a game. The problem is that Newton doesn't typically throw the ball that much. They key is predicting when he will, because Ginn is getting about 21% of his targets, which I think falls in the range for #1 WRs. For example, Hilton was getting 22.7% last year. Luck just threw the ball a lot more. So the question is, will the Panthers be forced to throw the ball this week or will Stewart be able to run on Seattle?

Nice post and #s for reference. He's only my WR4 but I can start 4 in a PPR and I'm tempted here only because Abdullah is killing me.

 

[stbugs]

Gotta start him again due to byes (Cooper and Evans with a weaker WR corps). I was happy with the last game so hopefully it goes well. That said Seattle always had more issues with small quick guys (Beckham and Sanders) than the bigger guts like DT.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Gotta start him again due to byes (Cooper and Evans with a weaker WR corps). I was happy with the last game so hopefully it goes well. That said Seattle always had more issues with small quick guys (Beckham and Sanders) than the bigger guts like DT.

Have the same WRs ha. Hoping for 5 for 50 with a sneaky TD!

 

[FUBAR]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

What's the coverage plan likely to be here? What does Sherman do? Do the LBs cover Olsen?

 

[Futz]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

What's the coverage plan likely to be here? What does Sherman do? Do the LBs cover Olsen?

It's my understanding that Sherman only plays a side so that could help here but unless he catches a deep one on a blown coverage, I still only see 2-3 for 40.

 

[FF Ninja]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

Yeah, he's only averaging 6.25 targets a game. The problem is that Newton doesn't typically throw the ball that much. They key is predicting when he will, because Ginn is getting about 21% of his targets, which I think falls in the range for #1 WRs. For example, Hilton was getting 22.7% last year. Luck just threw the ball a lot more. So the question is, will the Panthers be forced to throw the ball this week or will Stewart be able to run on Seattle?

Nice post and #s for reference. He's only my WR4 but I can start 4 in a PPR and I'm tempted here only because Abdullah is killing me.

Ugh. I think he's killing a lot of people. Ginn is the ultimate boom or bust guy. He'll probably only catch 2-3 passes, but with his speed and Newton's arm, one of those passes could easily be a 50+ yard TD. I'd bench him if my team is favored and start him if I'm the underdog.

ETA: I meant Abdullah with that first line.

 

[Futz]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

Yeah, he's only averaging 6.25 targets a game. The problem is that Newton doesn't typically throw the ball that much. They key is predicting when he will, because Ginn is getting about 21% of his targets, which I think falls in the range for #1 WRs. For example, Hilton was getting 22.7% last year. Luck just threw the ball a lot more. So the question is, will the Panthers be forced to throw the ball this week or will Stewart be able to run on Seattle?

Nice post and #s for reference. He's only my WR4 but I can start 4 in a PPR and I'm tempted here only because Abdullah is killing me.

Ugh. I think he's killing a lot of people. Ginn is the ultimate boom or bust guy. He'll probably only catch 2-3 passes, but with his speed and Newton's arm, one of those passes could easily be a 50+ yard TD. I'd bench him if my team is favored and start him if I'm the underdog.

ETA: I meant Abdullah with that first line.

I would say I'm the fav but I'm a fumble away from getting a donut out of AA. :headwall: I think I just talked myself into gin n juice.

 

[zftcg]

I'm sitting Ginn for Cameron this week at my flex. I can set aside my longstanding distrust of Ginn as long as he continues to produce, and I can start a solid WR1 even with a bad match-up. But the distrust + match-up is a little too much.

Going forward, he's in the mix for WR2/flex with Snead, Crowder and Stevie Johnson.

 

[DocHolliday]

Still cant believe I have Ginn on my team. And, I may have to play him since Cooper is on a bye. For discussion purposes, I think I am starting Wilson over him if Royal and Jeffrey are still gimpy. Ginn could throw up a 0.

 

[FUBAR]

Still cant believe I have Ginn on my team. And, I may have to play him since Cooper is on a bye. For discussion purposes, I think I am starting Wilson over him if Royal and Jeffrey are still gimpy. Ginn could throw up a 0.

seems to me Wilson is more likely to get the zero. Cam will need to throw against Seattle, to more than just Olsen. Can't count on a TD but I'd put Ginn's floor at around 7 points in a PPR. This season his worst game is 7.9 where I have him, every other week he's been in the teens. Granted, week 4's line of 2 receptions, 18 yards and 2 TDs is unlikely to be repeated.

 

[simey]

He's currently my WR3 due to injuries. Not sure how to feel about that, but at least he's been productive. As long as he keeps getting targets and Funchess doesn't do anything, he'll be fantasy relevant.

Cotchery will be back this game. He has had a high ankle sprain since game 2, but is good to go now. I think Cotchery being back is good for Ginn.

 

[Van Dyman]

He's currently my WR3 due to injuries. Not sure how to feel about that, but at least he's been productive. As long as he keeps getting targets and Funchess doesn't do anything, he'll be fantasy relevant.

Cotchery will be back this game. He has had a high ankle sprain since game 1, but is good to go now. I think Cotchery being back is good for Ginn.

I've been looking at Ginn, not for this week but a string of plus matchups afterward. Good info on Cotchery. How'd he look in preseason?

 

[simey]

He's currently my WR3 due to injuries. Not sure how to feel about that, but at least he's been productive. As long as he keeps getting targets and Funchess doesn't do anything, he'll be fantasy relevant.

Cotchery will be back this game. He has had a high ankle sprain since game 2, but is good to go now. I think Cotchery being back is good for Ginn.

I've been looking at Ginn, not for this week but a string of plus matchups afterward. Good info on Cotchery. How'd he look in preseason?

Jerricho has the best hands out of all the current active Panthers WRs. He isn't fast, but he runs good routes, and is a good possession receiver for his age.

 

[Van Dyman]

He's currently my WR3 due to injuries. Not sure how to feel about that, but at least he's been productive. As long as he keeps getting targets and Funchess doesn't do anything, he'll be fantasy relevant.

Cotchery will be back this game. He has had a high ankle sprain since game 2, but is good to go now. I think Cotchery being back is good for Ginn.

I've been looking at Ginn, not for this week but a string of plus matchups afterward. Good info on Cotchery. How'd he look in preseason?

Jerrico has the best hands out of all the current active Panthers WRs. He isn't fast, but he runs good routes, and is a good possession receiver for his age.

Hard to expect any WR to rack up a lot of yards in this offense. At least Ginn has some TDs. Still, Cotcher's return takes some some luster off Ginn...not that there was much luster in the first place.

 

[DocHolliday]

Still cant believe I have Ginn on my team. And, I may have to play him since Cooper is on a bye. For discussion purposes, I think I am starting Wilson over him if Royal and Jeffrey are still gimpy. Ginn could throw up a 0.

seems to me Wilson is more likely to get the zero. Cam will need to throw against Seattle, to more than just Olsen. Can't count on a TD but I'd put Ginn's floor at around 7 points in a PPR. This season his worst game is 7.9 where I have him, every other week he's been in the teens. Granted, week 4's line of 2 receptions, 18 yards and 2 TDs is unlikely to be repeated.

I appreciate the reasoning. Ginn scares me. Lots of games over the years where he does nothing. Wilson has proven the last 2 weeks that he can be a decent WR when Royal and Jeffrey are out.

 

[simey]

He's currently my WR3 due to injuries. Not sure how to feel about that, but at least he's been productive. As long as he keeps getting targets and Funchess doesn't do anything, he'll be fantasy relevant.

Cotchery will be back this game. He has had a high ankle sprain since game 2, but is good to go now. I think Cotchery being back is good for Ginn.

I've been looking at Ginn, not for this week but a string of plus matchups afterward. Good info on Cotchery. How'd he look in preseason?

Jerricho has the best hands out of all the current active Panthers WRs. He isn't fast, but he runs good routes, and is a good possession receiver for his age.

Hard to expect any WR to rack up a lot of yards in this offense. At least Ginn has some TDs. Still, Cotcher's return takes some some luster off Ginn...not that there was much luster in the first place.

If Kelvin Benjamin were playing this season, I would expect him to rack up some yards. Anyway, In week 1 when Jerricho played a full game, he had 6 targets and Ginn had 7.

 

[zftcg]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

What's the coverage plan likely to be here? What does Sherman do? Do the LBs cover Olsen?

It's my understanding that Sherman only plays a side so that could help here but unless he catches a deep one on a blown coverage, I still only see 2-3 for 40.

Worth pointing out that last week Sherman was playing his usual side of the field, and the Bengals stuck Green on the other side, where he absolutely torched Cary Williams. So they switched coverage and had him follow Green around, and he largely shut him down after that.

No idea what that means for this week. I doubt anyone on either side is building their game plan around Ted Freakin' Ginn. But given that the biggest weakness in Seattle's pass D is the biggest strength in Carolina's offense (TE), I see a lot of Olsen and no one else.

 

[FUBAR]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

What's the coverage plan likely to be here? What does Sherman do? Do the LBs cover Olsen?

It's my understanding that Sherman only plays a side so that could help here but unless he catches a deep one on a blown coverage, I still only see 2-3 for 40.

Worth pointing out that last week Sherman was playing his usual side of the field, and the Bengals stuck Green on the other side, where he absolutely torched Cary Williams. So they switched coverage and had him follow Green around, and he largely shut him down after that.

No idea what that means for this week. I doubt anyone on either side is building their game plan around Ted Freakin' Ginn. But given that the biggest weakness in Seattle's pass D is the biggest strength in Carolina's offense (TE), I see a lot of Olsen and no one else.

Very much this. If I did the weekly games, Olsen seems an easy bet. Unless you're using a contrarian approach

 

[drfeelgood]

Tough matchup @ Seattle this week. He doesn't get the usual # of targets a WR1 usually gets anyways and now he has to make it happen against a tough D in a hostile environment.

What's the coverage plan likely to be here? What does Sherman do? Do the LBs cover Olsen?

It's my understanding that Sherman only plays a side so that could help here but unless he catches a deep one on a blown coverage, I still only see 2-3 for 40.

Worth pointing out that last week Sherman was playing his usual side of the field, and the Bengals stuck Green on the other side, where he absolutely torched Cary Williams. So they switched coverage and had him follow Green around, and he largely shut him down after that.

No idea what that means for this week. I doubt anyone on either side is building their game plan around Ted Freakin' Ginn. But given that the biggest weakness in Seattle's pass D is the biggest strength in Carolina's offense (TE), I see a lot of Olsen and no one else.

A lot of teams game plan for Olsen.

 

[stbugs]

The best part of Ginn is that he has the speed to make one play turn into a good enough fantasy game. I don't like that I have to start him, but I have no choice. That said he isn't a bad option for a must start/bye week this year. He could have a bad game he'll likely have 10+ in PPR because Olsen and Cam will be game planned for, not Ginn.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

First time I have seen any Carolina game action this year, and Ginn looked really good on screen to me. He made some nice catches, and his burst was obvious on the 40+ yard end around run. I think there is still some bye week value in Ginn if needed as a WR5 type.

 

[FUBAR]

First time I have seen any Carolina game action this year, and Ginn looked really good on screen to me. He made some nice catches, and his burst was obvious on the 40+ yard end around run. I think there is still some bye week value in Ginn if needed as a WR5 type.

over 100 yards total. The guy is one of the cheapest decent plays available this side of Nate Washington.

 

[parrot]

First time I have seen any Carolina game action this year, and Ginn looked really good on screen to me. He made some nice catches, and his burst was obvious on the 40+ yard end around run. I think there is still some bye week value in Ginn if needed as a WR5 type.

God he's heartless though. Most players at least take a hit trying to score on that end-around. Ginn just jogs out of bounds at the 7 completely untouched.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

First time I have seen any Carolina game action this year, and Ginn looked really good on screen to me. He made some nice catches, and his burst was obvious on the 40+ yard end around run. I think there is still some bye week value in Ginn if needed as a WR5 type.

God he's heartless though. Most players at least take a hit trying to score on that end-around. Ginn just jogs out of bounds at the 7 completely untouched.

Lol I did notice that on the replays.

 

[jurb26]

First time I have seen any Carolina game action this year, and Ginn looked really good on screen to me. He made some nice catches, and his burst was obvious on the 40+ yard end around run. I think there is still some bye week value in Ginn if needed as a WR5 type.

God he's heartless though. Most players at least take a hit trying to score on that end-around. Ginn just jogs out of bounds at the 7 completely untouched.

Lol I did notice that on the replays.

It was a business decision... And the correct one. Dude might get broke in half. He's no Julio.

 

[FUBAR]

First time I have seen any Carolina game action this year, and Ginn looked really good on screen to me. He made some nice catches, and his burst was obvious on the 40+ yard end around run. I think there is still some bye week value in Ginn if needed as a WR5 type.

God he's heartless though. Most players at least take a hit trying to score on that end-around. Ginn just jogs out of bounds at the 7 completely untouched.

Lol I did notice that on the replays.

It was a business decision... And the correct one. Dude might get broke in half. He's no Julio.

losing Ginn would be disastrous for the Panthers.

 

[parrot]

First time I have seen any Carolina game action this year, and Ginn looked really good on screen to me. He made some nice catches, and his burst was obvious on the 40+ yard end around run. I think there is still some bye week value in Ginn if needed as a WR5 type.

God he's heartless though. Most players at least take a hit trying to score on that end-around. Ginn just jogs out of bounds at the 7 completely untouched.

Lol I did notice that on the replays.

It was a business decision... And the correct one. Dude might get broke in half. He's no Julio.

He could have gotten inside the five and probably still not been hit. Discretion may be the better part of valor, or maybe he's just a #####.

I guess I'm spoiled watching Gronk, Edelman, and Amendola kill themselves trying to get to the endzone.

 

[BassNBrew]

First time I have seen any Carolina game action this year, and Ginn looked really good on screen to me. He made some nice catches, and his burst was obvious on the 40+ yard end around run. I think there is still some bye week value in Ginn if needed as a WR5 type.

God he's heartless though. Most players at least take a hit trying to score on that end-around. Ginn just jogs out of bounds at the 7 completely untouched.

Lol I did notice that on the replays.

It was a business decision... And the correct one. Dude might get broke in half. He's no Julio.

He could have gotten inside the five and probably still not been hit. Discretion may be the better part of valor, or maybe he's just a #####.

I guess I'm spoiled watching Gronk, Edelman, and Amendola kill themselves trying to get to the endzone.

In Carolina you aren't allowed to steal Newton's TDs.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Doesn't get much worse than that drop. Oof.

 

[stbugs]

Doesn't get much worse than that drop. Oof.

Also, he should have laid out for the long pass early in the game. It was just off his fingertips, but if he lays out it's a 40+ yard catch. As I mentioned above, he has 1 or 2 long TD opportunities every single game. Then again, if he had hands, he wouldn't be back with the Panthers for the second time.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Doesn't get much worse than that drop. Oof.

Also, he should have laid out for the long pass early in the game. It was just off his fingertips, but if he lays out it's a 40+ yard catch. As I mentioned above, he has 1 or 2 long TD opportunities every single game. Then again, if he had hands, he wouldn't be back with the Panthers for the second time.

Completely forgot about that earlier one. Honestly looked like just fully extend his arms and he catches it..maybe didn't even need to lay out. What a frustrating player.

 

[dansav]

Gotta love the fact he got 12 targets last night. Could have finished the night with monster stats if he caught the 50 td bomb. Cam went right back to him that series for a first down.

 

[FUBAR]

Doesn't get much worse than that drop. Oof.

Also, he should have laid out for the long pass early in the game. It was just off his fingertips, but if he lays out it's a 40+ yard catch. As I mentioned above, he has 1 or 2 long TD opportunities every single game. Then again, if he had hands, he wouldn't be back with the Panthers for the second time.

if he had hands, he'd probably still be in Miami.

 

[BassNBrew]

Doesn't get much worse than that drop. Oof.

Also, he should have laid out for the long pass early in the game. It was just off his fingertips, but if he lays out it's a 40+ yard catch. As I mentioned above, he has 1 or 2 long TD opportunities every single game. Then again, if he had hands, he wouldn't be back with the Panthers for the second time.

if he had hands, he'd probably still be in Miami.

If my aunt have balls she'd be my uncle.

 

[DocHolliday]

Doesn't get much worse than that drop. Oof.

Also, he should have laid out for the long pass early in the game. It was just off his fingertips, but if he lays out it's a 40+ yard catch. As I mentioned above, he has 1 or 2 long TD opportunities every single game. Then again, if he had hands, he wouldn't be back with the Panthers for the second time.

Completely forgot about that earlier one. Honestly looked like just fully extend his arms and he catches it..maybe didn't even need to lay out. What a frustrating player.

Frustrating. I need to drop him.

 

[Ted Stickles]

Doesn't get much worse than that drop. Oof.

Game, Set, Match meet Butter-Finger Stumps. Awful...

 

[Eminence]

He's going to win me a championship.

 

[Eminence]

He's going to win me a championship.

This guy is the man, lmao!

 

[Nero]

A must start against the Giants and their Oprah defense.

 

[FUBAR]

A must start against the Giants and their Oprah defense.

Yep

League I have him I also have OBJ, figure this game balances each other out a bit. (Also have Olsen and Eli, so hoping for a shoot out)

 

[BobbyLayne]

Guy in my league sat him, got crushed by the Eli/OBJ stack. Started Terrence Williams. SMH

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And yes this is a shameless bump.

Any new thoughts on Ginn with the Saints?

 

[Apple Juice]

I think he's a good late cuff for Thomas. If it's him and Snead he's a decent start. He'll probably be right around where he was in Carolina. He'll pop off a few long touchdowns here and there.