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Who will be the Goal Line back in Carolina? (1 Viewer)
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Many people, myself included, feel that Foster is an injury waiting to happen. He could do great things if he stays healthy, but that's been his bugaboo his entire career.
Righetti
Footballguy
I totally agree but as we saw from Thomas Jones last year.. a RB with a injury-riddled past who never really performed might get enough of a push from the rookie back to keep his job for the season.is it possible that DeShaun FOster is this year's Thomas TapDance Jones?As a DeAngelo owner, I hope not but I do have some
Speaking only as it relates to redrafts, I think you take a LONG look at Foster. Guys that fail to take chances rarely, if ever, win a redraft. Foster is going to drop...keep dropping...and at a certain point provides amazing ROI potential.
Foster fits the boom profile of the type of player that redraft winners will normally have.
Foster fits the bust profile of the type of player that redraft losers will normally have.
Foster is the poster child for HIGH risk/HIGH reward.
You have to determined how much risk you are willing to assume. If you take Foster, are you willing to burn an early pick on D. Willliams or are you willing to play the season minus the handcuff? Can you cover yourself by picking up a few other RB?
My feeling is that Foster is worth having this season in a redraft. Swing for the fences.
Foster fits the boom profile of the type of player that redraft winners will normally have.
Foster fits the bust profile of the type of player that redraft losers will normally have.
Foster is the poster child for HIGH risk/HIGH reward.
You have to determined how much risk you are willing to assume. If you take Foster, are you willing to burn an early pick on D. Willliams or are you willing to play the season minus the handcuff? Can you cover yourself by picking up a few other RB?
My feeling is that Foster is worth having this season in a redraft. Swing for the fences.
My thoughts exactly when I grabbed him in the 4th. If you pick in a later spot (where you won't get one of the big 3), you're gonna need guys who can produce higher than where they draft. Naturally, these guys come with risks. IMO, picking at the end of the first round you need to grab high risk/reward guys like Portis, Moss, Foster, and Palmer to have a shot at the Alexander or LJ owner (assuming the rest of his draft was competent).
houndirish
Footballguy
I have no reason to feel this way but I'm actually confident in Foster this season. I totally agree that he's high risk/high reward. I have him in my Dynasty League and was fortunate to have DeAngelo drop to me in the rookie draft for the handcuff.
I took Foster in round 4 of a 14 team redraft last night and didn't feel too bad about doing it. I did get the handcuff in the 8th round. I'm not usually a fan of the handcuff but in this case I wasn't going to gamble.
Still, I feel pretty confident that Foster turns in his best season of his career. I don't think 1,300 yards and 9 scores is out of the question.
I had a choice of the following for my RB 2 slot:
Corey Dillon
Deuce McAlister
Ahman Green
Tatum Bell
Ced Benson
Dominic Rhodes
Mike Bell
Fred Taylor
Frank Gore
I like Foster over all those guys.
I would've preferred Warrick Dunn or possibly Thomas Jones but both went in the previous 4 picks.
I took Foster in round 4 of a 14 team redraft last night and didn't feel too bad about doing it. I did get the handcuff in the 8th round. I'm not usually a fan of the handcuff but in this case I wasn't going to gamble.
Still, I feel pretty confident that Foster turns in his best season of his career. I don't think 1,300 yards and 9 scores is out of the question.
I had a choice of the following for my RB 2 slot:
Corey Dillon
Deuce McAlister
Ahman Green
Tatum Bell
Ced Benson
Dominic Rhodes
Mike Bell
Fred Taylor
Frank Gore
I like Foster over all those guys.
I would've preferred Warrick Dunn or possibly Thomas Jones but both went in the previous 4 picks.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
OTOH, he's due to stay healthy.
Put me in the camp who says he keeps DeAngelo off the field (full-time) the entire season.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I don't have time to dig up all the other anti-Foster rhetoric I've posted in the past few months, but in addition to his health I pointed out that Foster has not exactly been a beast when he has played, rarely has gotten into the end zone, and that the Panthers team rushing totals have been far from impressive.
Add it all up and even if healthy best case I see for Foster is a Top 15-20 finish unless he gets way more TD than I give him credit for.
Add it all up and even if healthy best case I see for Foster is a Top 15-20 finish unless he gets way more TD than I give him credit for.
massraider
Footballguy
Correct, I think.Shelton may not make the team, Foster probably has more power than DeAngelo. But has Fox said anything about using anyone in a goal-line situation? I still think Foster would get some goalline carries. I don't see this being a FWP-Bettis situation.
red stripe
Footballguy
I swear I read somewhere recently that he (Foster) has been the best back in camp so far in short-yardage situations. I don't recall it being a Fox endorsement but it implied he would get first shot. I'll see if I can find it.EDIT: not the most recent but:
Rotoworld -Aug 9: DeShaun Foster has been Carolina's best short-yardage runner in training camp.
The worries about Eric Shelton stealing touchdowns are fading fast. Foster is 222 pounds, and has always ran more physical than his reputation. Staying healthy is another matter.
Aug 7 article on the Panthers website:
Foster Stiffarms Perception
Not a ringing endorsement but the guy is a good 220 pounds and as he has been finding his way on to a lot of my rosters here's hoping he gets the shot.
Anyone have any more recent reads?
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This is the chance Foster has been waiting for. Either he blows up into fantasy Stardom (as well as becoming regarded as a very productive NFL RB) or he becomes an afterthought. I am one who has believed that given the chance to carry the ball 20-25 times a game Deshaun Foster has all the talent to be a star player in this league. Unfourtunatly he has had bad luck. I do not consider him injury prone. Injury prone in my book is someone who get's nagging muscles strains, sprains, and does not play with some pain (Kevin Jones, Donte Stallworth and Kevan Barlow come to mind). Foster has had broken bones which is not the result of being injury prone. That is being hit the wrong way in a game. He can just as easily play the next 2 seasons without any setbacks (like Fred Taylor did in 2003, and 2004) and have some killer numbers. He is worth the risk this season because he is the featured runner on a great running team. As far as taking his hand cuff. My thoughts on that are he will come at a price where you can get a better WR or QB. If however he slips in the draft snag him. My take is if your drafting Foster in the early 4th round you can not draft him with the thought of him not playing at least 14 to 15 games. Otherwise look elsewhere.
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Wally Cleaver
Footballguy
I dont think people realize how good Deshaun is... Deangelo is not a factor in my opinion and if Deshaun manages to stay healthy I would take him over just about ever back not in the illustrious top 3... and I do realize that is a big if.... He is in a perfect situation, he has tremendous wr's who will demand a lot of attention, a team that should be very high scoring and ahead in most games.... and he will be a fantasy monster this year if he can manage to stay healthy... That is the risk, but isnt that a risk with every player you draft... He represents tremendous value in the fourth round and outstanding value in the third round... If he stays healthy he will put up first round number and will likely take his teams to the championship..... This is a risk/reward pick, but the reward far outweighs the risk imo.
Edit: I missed him in my draft as he went much earlier than expected in the middle of round 2, so not sticking up for one of my players here, although i did want him bad.
Edit: I missed him in my draft as he went much earlier than expected in the middle of round 2, so not sticking up for one of my players here, although i did want him bad.
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Wingnut
Footballguy
Dont jinx him with all the "staying healthy" talk!!!!
I drafted him at 4.10 and didnt get Williams (waited too long).
I didnt get to see much of him last year, so I dont really know what Im in for. Knowing that Carolina is a running team, I feel pretty good about having their unquestioned RB1 going into the season. Hopefully Williams doesnt steal his thunder at the goal line.
In other words, I have nothing interesting to add to the discussion, but this is my way of blackdotting this thread.
I drafted him at 4.10 and didnt get Williams (waited too long).
I didnt get to see much of him last year, so I dont really know what Im in for. Knowing that Carolina is a running team, I feel pretty good about having their unquestioned RB1 going into the season. Hopefully Williams doesnt steal his thunder at the goal line.
In other words, I have nothing interesting to add to the discussion, but this is my way of blackdotting this thread.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I don't have time to get into a long debate, but what has Foster shown that equates to being a Top 10 RB. Health aside, he's got 4 career rushing TD, has played subpar against above average defenses, plays behind an average or worse OL in terms of RB production, and IMO has been average looking whenever I've seen him play.
Sure, he finished last year at a decent clip--but even Nick Goings had a better strecth the year before.
I'm not saying that Foster will be a total dud when he's on the field, but I really am not seeing the Top 5-Top 10 banter. If the team was so enamored with him, why would they have taken Shelton last year and Williams in the first this year?
Sure, he finished last year at a decent clip--but even Nick Goings had a better strecth the year before.
I'm not saying that Foster will be a total dud when he's on the field, but I really am not seeing the Top 5-Top 10 banter. If the team was so enamored with him, why would they have taken Shelton last year and Williams in the first this year?
Wally Cleaver
Footballguy
Why? Because they found themselves in the most important game of the year with Nick Goings as their tailback and little else behind him... There lines were solid and they are a super bowl contender... Why not bring in Deangelo to add depth and a back with upside in case Deshaun can't stay healthy this year??Edit... There also happened to be a guy named Stephen Davis who was a pretty good goalline back, hard to get goalline carries with him around... The opportunity for a huge year is in place, imo....
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DoubleG
Footballguy
Excellent actually...because, of course, it agrees with my thinking on Foster. Especially "the injury prone" thought. Someone who is injury prone has a bad knee, a bad hammy, muscle strains/sprains that are chronic problems. A broken bone is not that type of injury. Has he been hurt in the past? Yes. Are either the type of injury that will turn into a chronic problem? No. He doesn't have T.O.'s bad hammy, DJax's or DD's knees, etc.DeFos should finish in the 12-16 RB range - which would make him a steal at his current ADP. If you're in a dynasty league, keep in mind he's only 26.
A final thought - he runs for an offense that rushed 487 times as a team last year (10th) - one less rushing attempt than the Chicago Bears.
JayMan
Footballguy
You are making valid points about the "injury prone" tag - I agree with that part - his past injuries are not chronic types / nor should they be lingering...But to say that he's "only" 26 years old for [DYNASTY] owners is a bit misleading when you think that: Portis / McGahee / JLewis / DDavis / JJones / RJohnson / RBrown / KJones / SJackson / CBrown / LJohnson / Westbrook / Parker / Gore / TBell / Benson and all the rookies are 26 years old or less (at the beginning of the season)...
DeFos should finish in the 12-16 RB range - which would make him a steal at his current ADP. If you're in a dynasty league, keep in mind he's only 26.
A final thought - he runs for an offense that rushed 487 times as a team last year (10th) - one less rushing attempt than the Chicago Bears.
You have a valid point when you know that he only has 446 touches in his career (mostly due to the injuries) compared to Portis (1399) / McGahee (659) / JLewis (1650) / DDavis (950) / RJohnson (995) that are not older than him...
FYI - Here is an excerpt of the list I posted a while back on active RBs touches per year prior to the upcoming season (might be helpful). We clearly see that Foster is not the RB with the most mileage...
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name------------------ ag - rush - rec - tchs - xp - avg/yrLaDainian Tomlinson--- 27 - 1702 - 342 - 2044 -- 5 - 408.8Curtis Martin--------- 33 - 3518 - 484 - 4002 - 11 - 363.8Edgerrin James-------- 27 - 2188 - 356 - 2544 -- 7 - 363.4Clinton Portis-------- 24 - 1258 - 141 - 1399 -- 4 - 349.8Ricky Williams-------- 29 - 1757 - 246 - 2003 -- 6 - 333.8Jamal Lewis----------- 26 - 1508 - 142 - 1650 -- 5 - 330.0Willis McGahee-------- 24 -- 609 -- 50 -- 659 -- 2 - 329.5Shaun Alexander------- 28 - 1717 - 188 - 1905 -- 6 - 317.5Domanick Davis-------- 25 -- 770 - 154 -- 924 -- 3 - 308.0Marshall Faulk-------- 33 - 2836 - 767 - 3603 - 12 - 300.3Corey Dillon---------- 31 - 2419 - 229 - 2648 -- 9 - 294.2Tiki Barber----------- 31 - 1889 - 528 - 2417 -- 9 - 268.6Warrick Dunn---------- 31 - 1970 - 404 - 2374 -- 9 - 263.8Fred Taylor----------- 30 - 1831 - 238 - 2069 -- 8 - 258.6Julius Jones---------- 24 -- 454 -- 52 -- 506 -- 2 - 253.0Rudi Johnson---------- 26 -- 930 -- 65 -- 995 -- 4 - 248.8Deuce McAllister------ 27 - 1054 - 182 - 1236 -- 5 - 247.2Ronnie Brown---------- 24 -- 207 -- 32 -- 239 -- 1 - 239.0Ahman Green----------- 29 - 1605 - 304 - 1909 -- 8 - 238.6Kevin Jones----------- 23 -- 427 -- 48 -- 475 -- 2 - 237.5Travis Henry---------- 27 - 1051 - 116 - 1167 -- 5 - 233.4Priest Holmes--------- 32 - 1734 - 334 - 2068 -- 9 - 229.8Marcel Shipp---------- 27 -- 573 - 103 -- 676 -- 3 - 225.3Steven Jackson-------- 23 -- 388 -- 62 -- 450 -- 2 - 225.0Antowain Smith-------- 34 - 1784 - 136 - 1920 -- 9 - 213.3Stephen Davis--------- 32 - 1905 - 167 - 2072 - 10 - 207.2Kevan Barlow---------- 27 -- 891 - 137 - 1028 -- 5 - 205.6Thomas Jones---------- 27 - 1053 - 179 - 1232 -- 6 - 205.3Anthony Thomas-------- 28 -- 901 -- 76 -- 977 -- 5 - 195.4Michael Pittman------- 30 - 1198 - 342 - 1540 -- 8 - 192.5Duce Staley----------- 31 - 1430 - 287 - 1717 -- 9 - 190.8Mike Anderson--------- 32 -- 865 -- 79 -- 944 -- 5 - 188.8Chris Brown----------- 25 -- 500 -- 53 -- 553 -- 3 - 184.3Larry Johnson--------- 26 -- 476 -- 56 -- 532 -- 3 - 177.3Brian Westbrook------- 26 -- 496 - 180 -- 676 -- 4 - 169.0Michael Bennett------- 27 -- 713 - 126 -- 839 -- 5 - 167.8Mike Alstott---------- 32 - 1299 - 284 - 1583 - 10 - 158.3Willie Parker--------- 25 -- 287 -- 21 -- 308 -- 2 - 154.0William Green--------- 26 -- 568 -- 45 -- 613 -- 4 - 153.3Samkon Gado----------- 23 -- 143 -- 10 -- 153 -- 1 - 153.0DeShaun Foster-------- 26 -- 377 -- 69 -- 446 -- 3 - 148.7T.J. Duckett---------- 25 -- 552 -- 29 -- 581 -- 4 - 145.3Reuben Droughns------- 27 -- 624 -- 89 -- 713 -- 5 - 142.6Mewelde Moore--------- 24 -- 220 -- 64 -- 284 -- 2 - 142.0Frank Gore------------ 23 -- 127 -- 15 -- 142 -- 1 - 142.0Correll Buckhalter---- 27 -- 255 -- 23 -- 278 -- 2 - 139.0J.J. Arrington-------- 23 -- 112 -- 25 -- 137 -- 1 - 137.0Tatum Bell------------ 25 -- 248 -- 23 -- 271 -- 2 - 135.5Ron Dayne------------- 28 -- 638 -- 26 -- 664 -- 5 - 132.8LaMont Jordan--------- 27 -- 534 - 120 -- 654 -- 5 - 130.8Kevin Faulk----------- 30 -- 607 - 233 -- 840 -- 7 - 120.0Chester Taylor-------- 26 -- 373 - 105 -- 478 -- 4 - 119.5Shawn Bryson---------- 29 -- 526 - 177 -- 703 -- 6 - 117.2Greg Jones------------ 25 -- 213 -- 13 -- 226 -- 2 - 113.0Jonathan Wells-------- 27 -- 374 -- 44 -- 418 -- 4 - 104.5Dominic Rhodes-------- 27 -- 363 -- 55 -- 418 -- 4 - 104.5Quentin Griffin------- 25 -- 179 -- 18 -- 197 -- 2 -- 98.5Lee Suggs------------- 25 -- 263 -- 28 -- 291 -- 3 -- 97.0Nick Goings----------- 28 -- 380 -- 97 -- 477 -- 5 -- 95.4Ladell Betts---------- 26 -- 321 -- 52 -- 373 -- 4 -- 93.3Maurice Hicks--------- 28 -- 155 -- 28 -- 183 -- 2 -- 91.5Tony Fisher----------- 26 -- 235 - 125 -- 360 -- 4 -- 90.0Cedric Houston-------- 24 --- 81 --- 8 --- 89 -- 1 -- 89.0Artose Pinner--------- 28 -- 202 -- 37 -- 239 -- 3 -- 79.7Jamel White----------- 28 -- 382 - 172 -- 554 -- 7 -- 79.1Lamar Gordon---------- 26 -- 225 -- 62 -- 287 -- 4 -- 71.8James Jackson--------- 29 -- 325 -- 32 -- 357 -- 5 -- 71.4Alvin Pearman--------- 23 --- 39 -- 32 --- 71 -- 1 -- 71.0Cedric Benson--------- 23 --- 67 --- 1 --- 68 -- 1 -- 68.0Kenny Watson---------- 28 -- 142 -- 57 -- 199 -- 3 -- 66.3Dee Brown------------- 28 -- 108 -- 20 -- 128 -- 2 -- 64.0Sammy Morris---------- 29 -- 282 -- 91 -- 373 -- 6 -- 62.2LaBrandon Toefield---- 25 -- 140 -- 45 -- 185 -- 3 -- 61.7Travis Minor---------- 27 -- 258 -- 47 -- 305 -- 5 -- 61.0Ryan Moats------------ 23 --- 55 --- 4 --- 59 -- 1 -- 59.0Moe Williams---------- 32 -- 435 - 154 -- 589 - 10 -- 58.9Aaron Stecker--------- 30 -- 254 -- 97 -- 351 -- 6 -- 58.5Najeh Davenport------- 27 -- 217 -- 17 -- 234 -- 4 -- 58.5Chris Perry----------- 24 --- 63 -- 54 -- 117 -- 2 -- 58.5Rock Cartwright------- 26 -- 137 -- 31 -- 168 -- 3 -- 56.0Vernand Morency------- 26 --- 46 -- 10 --- 56 -- 1 -- 56.0Derrick Blaylock------ 26 -- 173 -- 48 -- 221 -- 4 -- 55.3Brad Hoover----------- 29 -- 221 - 105 -- 326 -- 6 -- 54.3Shaud Williams-------- 25 --- 87 -- 20 -- 107 -- 2 -- 53.5J.R. Redmond---------- 28 -- 194 -- 68 -- 262 -- 5 -- 52.4Tony Richardson------- 34 -- 395 - 177 -- 572 - 11 -- 52.0Verron Haynes--------- 27 -- 159 -- 39 -- 198 -- 4 -- 49.5Tyson Thompson-------- 25 --- 46 --- 3 --- 49 -- 1 -- 49.0Maurice Morris-------- 26 -- 171 -- 21 -- 192 -- 4 -- 48.0Noah Herron----------- 24 --- 48 --- 0 --- 48 -- 1 -- 48.0Arlen Harris---------- 26 -- 118 -- 23 -- 141 -- 3 -- 47.0Zack Crockett--------- 33 -- 470 -- 86 -- 556 - 12 -- 46.3Justin Griffith------- 25 --- 62 -- 64 -- 126 -- 3 -- 42.0Michael Turner-------- 24 --- 77 --- 4 --- 81 -- 2 -- 40.5Fred Beasley---------- 31 -- 183 - 133 -- 316 -- 8 -- 39.5James Mungro---------- 28 -- 133 -- 24 -- 157 -- 4 -- 39.3William Henderson----- 35 -- 123 - 308 -- 431 - 11 -- 39.2Jarrett Payton-------- 25 --- 33 --- 6 --- 39 -- 1 -- 39.0Brandon Jacobs-------- 24 --- 38 --- 0 --- 38 -- 1 -- 38.0Others...DoubleG
Footballguy
Normally, I agree with you...but not this time.First off, to address the concerns in your first paragraph, he has averaged a respectable 4.3 yards per carry the last two season (Davis averaged 3.1 ypc behind the same line last year). Last year, Foster had 34 receptions - making him the 2nd leading receiver for the Panther's (behind, of course, Steve Smith). Also last year he had 879 yards on 205 carries. If you bump up his carries to about 280 (Davis had 318 as the featured back in 2003) that would put him at about 1200 yards - allow the 220 pounder to stay in goal line situations, add in a receiving tuddy or two to bring him to about 9-10 TDs, add in a few extra receptions (45 total?)...let's see....carry the 4...that should be about 210-220 fantasy points...which would put him in the top 10.I personally think he has the potential to finish at about RB12 (I'm not quite as optimistic about him getting ALL that work). In answer to your 2nd paragraph, I think the reason they took Shelton (who will be cut soon) and Williams is fairly obvious - Davis is off the team, and not many NFL teams go to war with 1-2 RBs
Goings is, as per your website, a FB, not technically one of their RBs (albiet a capable fill in in the case of emergency - which, I don't think Carolina wants to have to try again).
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Feel free to disagree. But here's my retort.
- As discussed ad naseum, he has problems staying healthy. He's been banged up every year as a pro. And it stems back to all but one year in college as well.
- The Panthers have ranked 29th, 28th, 17th, and 31st in YPC and 8th, 22nd, 25th, and 22nd in rushing TD the past 4 years.
- The Panthers have ranked 6th in passing TD the past two seasons. Smith isn't going anywhere and MeShaun is in the mix now too.
- Foster has had only 3 games with more than 85 rushing yards in his career. Granted, they were great games, but they game against the defensively challenged 04 Chiefs and 05 Falcons (twice) who ranked 28th and 31st against the run ypc wise.
- I never advocate selective stat analysis, but take out those 3 games and Foster has a 3.6 ypc average in 30 other NFL games. I won't put much weight on this one as it's basically taking the milk (or in this case the fat) but not the whole cow.
- Foster has exactly 7 games with 20 or more carries and how he fares with a regular pounding is pure speculation at this point.
- Only 4 rushing TD in 377 career regular season carries. Not sure why that is, likely a lot farmed out to Davis but he also played a fair amount without Davis in the lineup.
- Williams is lurking (although likely not an immediate threat) and Goings could be a vulture even at FB.
IMO, I see Foster's upside (with an extensive workload) as in the RB 12-15 range if everyhing goes well and he stays healthy. But I don't see that happening, and at 2/3 of a season he's looking at RB 25 range like last year.
- As discussed ad naseum, he has problems staying healthy. He's been banged up every year as a pro. And it stems back to all but one year in college as well.
- The Panthers have ranked 29th, 28th, 17th, and 31st in YPC and 8th, 22nd, 25th, and 22nd in rushing TD the past 4 years.
- The Panthers have ranked 6th in passing TD the past two seasons. Smith isn't going anywhere and MeShaun is in the mix now too.
- Foster has had only 3 games with more than 85 rushing yards in his career. Granted, they were great games, but they game against the defensively challenged 04 Chiefs and 05 Falcons (twice) who ranked 28th and 31st against the run ypc wise.
- I never advocate selective stat analysis, but take out those 3 games and Foster has a 3.6 ypc average in 30 other NFL games. I won't put much weight on this one as it's basically taking the milk (or in this case the fat) but not the whole cow.
- Foster has exactly 7 games with 20 or more carries and how he fares with a regular pounding is pure speculation at this point.
- Only 4 rushing TD in 377 career regular season carries. Not sure why that is, likely a lot farmed out to Davis but he also played a fair amount without Davis in the lineup.
- Williams is lurking (although likely not an immediate threat) and Goings could be a vulture even at FB.
IMO, I see Foster's upside (with an extensive workload) as in the RB 12-15 range if everyhing goes well and he stays healthy. But I don't see that happening, and at 2/3 of a season he's looking at RB 25 range like last year.
JayMan
Footballguy
Believe me David - I'm with you on that one (as for Foster's floor/ceiling)... just wanted to say that:1. The first bolded part is hilarious;
2. The second bolded part shows that you have political aspirations... when saying that you don't advocate something yet you use it to prove a point...
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Foster did have nagging soft tissue type injuries all througout his UCLA career (ankle sprains, groin pulls, etc.) . Just wanted to put that out there for those completely writing off the injury prone thing as bad luck - I'm not 100% with the whole bad luck thing as much as I'd like to believe it too.
Native
Footballguy
Again, the ONLY reason for that was because Davis was the goaline back. Of all the points you made, this is the only one I completely disagree with. If they gave Foster the goaline touches last year, he would have finished with 10-12 TD's.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
DeShaun Foster = Tim Biakabatuka
Both had talent but were easier to break than your Mom's Precious Moments collection. Foster will get hurt again this season. It is only a matter of when. I still think he's worth a late 4th/early 5th round pick since all the RB's in that range have question marks, but he will go much earlier in expert drafts.
Both had talent but were easier to break than your Mom's Precious Moments collection. Foster will get hurt again this season. It is only a matter of when. I still think he's worth a late 4th/early 5th round pick since all the RB's in that range have question marks, but he will go much earlier in expert drafts.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
If we go back and look at how Foster did WITHOUT Davis (or Davis hurt and barely playing) . . .20032 games, 43 carries, 0 rushing TD1 playoff game, 21 carries, 0 rushing TD20042 games, 51 carries, 2 rushing TD2005Weeks 11-17, 7 games, 130 carries, 2 rushing TD2 playoff games, 43 carries, 0 rushing TDAdd it up, and you get 14 games, 288 carries, and 4 rushing TD.Maybe he does better this year with Davis gone, but I'm not sure "well, Davis was there" is the end all of answers to why Foster has not scored much. I agree he should get more opportunities . . . what he does with them is the $64,000 question.
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