Who will be the Josh Hamilton of Fantasy Football? (1 Viewer)

[biggamer3]

As most peeps know, Hamilton had an ADP of about the 150th player selected in Baseball and is contributing like a top 5 player

Who is footballs version of Joshie 2008?

 

[obxlegends]

As most peeps know, Hamilton had an ADP of about the 150th player selected in Baseball and is contributing like a top 5 playerWho is footballs version of Joshie 2008?

Ok, why not? I want so much to say Devin Hester, but I still think he's a year away. So I'll have to go with Bryant Johnson. He has all the opportunity in the world to make the jump.

 

[Kirby]

Dwayne Bowe.

 

[Warhogs]

QB-Aaron Rodgers of the Packers. He could make a Tony Romo type splash. He looked good when he had a chance to play last year. He has a lot of weapons to work with on offense. If he can stay healthy this year he could be a top 5 QB. I don't expect him to perform that way but I think he has a chance.

QB-Alex Smith of the 49ers. I guess the thing could be said of whomever wins the starting job in San Fransisco. Mike Martz has been fantasy gold to the QB position. Because the starting job is up in the air I think there is potential to find a huge amount of upside.

TE-Anthony Fasano of the Dolphins. I think this kid has a lot of talent and seems like he will get his opportunity this year. The young Dolphins team should be looking to dump off to the TE a lot. I think he could possibly have a 70 catch season.

 

[Yitbos69]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

 

[MAC_32]

Offense - Robert Meachem

Defense - Justin Durant

 

[travdogg]

Brodie Croyle, not top-5 but top-15. I could see Eli-like numbers.

 

[Wu-banger]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

 

[Kirby]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

 

[treat88]

Josh Cribbs

JJ's all but gone. Ya know Stallworth will be hurt at some point.

If he gets regular reps people will be talking about him as the possible #2 on the Browns next season.

(He's just as dynamic, if not more so, than Hester in the return game with none of the hype)

 

[biggamer3]

Offense - Robert MeachemDefense - Justin Durant

I like the Meachem one, could very well have a moster year if he gets a starting gig

 

[biggamer3]

Steve Smith for the Gmen, could be a big shocker if Toomer was to get hurt

 

[FUBAR]

As most peeps know, Hamilton had an ADP of about the 150th player selected in Baseball and is contributing like a top 5 playerWho is footballs version of Joshie 2008?

Larry Johnson, Brian Westbrook, and a slew of football players were "Josh Hamilton" before Josh Hamilton was Josh Hamilton. I'll go top 5 at their position, but it's very possible for a player drafted around 150 to be top 5, it's just practically impossible to pick that guy (or else his ADP would be much higher)But, I'll go with:QB: Matt Leinart - if he actually "gets it", he can easily produce stats along the lines of top 5 for his positionRB: Ryan Torain - been discussed, possibleWR: Ted Ginn Jr. - skills are there, QB isn't yet, but could be

 

[Yitbos69]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

very true

 

[Sabertooth]

As most peeps know, Hamilton had an ADP of about the 150th player selected in Baseball and is contributing like a top 5 playerWho is footballs version of Joshie 2008?

I didn't realize they still had pro baseball.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Hamilton at least showed ability when he was in Cincinnati and went to the best hitting stadium in the AL, so there were a few things in his favor...

QB Aaron Rodgers

RB Aaron Stecker, R Torian

 

[EBF]

I think Jonathan Stewart and Sidney Rice have a lot of upside at a low cost. I could see those guys being the ADP and Marshall of 2008. Stewart won't be as good as ADP, but he could finish in the top 10 and be a monster down the stretch.

 

[foxco]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

very true

last season Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham went undrafted in most leagues.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'll take a crack at players not ranked in the top 50 at their position: (25 for QB)

QB: Leinart (currently 27th ranked QB) - Kid has a chance obviously with the glut of talent at wideout.

RB: Correll Buckhalter (currently 59th ranked RB) - Has shown ability. Obviously this is contingent on Westy getting hurt)

WR: Deion Branch (currently the 70th ranked wideout) - obviously has shown he's got some talent. With few other options, he could really surprise.

 

[joffer]

I'll take Pierre Thomas

 

[sholditch]

Josh Cribbs

JJ's all but gone. Ya know Stallworth will be hurt at some point.

If he gets regular reps people will be talking about him as the possible #2 on the Browns next season.

(He's just as dynamic, if not more so, than Hester in the return game with none of the hype)

He's good but until he starts breaking Devin's records and every team that plays the Browns boots it out of bounds on kickoffs let's not get ahead of ourselves.I like Fasano to surprise as well. Bryant Johnson seems about as likely as anyone. And if we're talking about someone that no one really expects to do anything that could conceivably really tear it up, I like Jamarcus Russell and Kurt Warner.

 

[obxlegends]

I'll take Pierre Thomas

I like this. Especially considering Deuce's suspect health.

 

[Kirby]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

very true

last season Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham went undrafted in most leagues.

But Grant and Graham didn't perform great in 06... we're looking for a Hamilton right?

 

[FUBAR]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

very true

last season Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham went undrafted in most leagues.

Then they clearly weren't within 120-150.

 

[Thorpe]

Gaines, TE for Detroit. He'll put up very good numbers for a TE and probably won't be drafted in too many leagues.

 

[foxco]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

very true

last season Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham went undrafted in most leagues.

But Grant and Graham didn't perform great in 06... we're looking for a Hamilton right?

Not sure I'm following. You used Dwayne Bowe as an example but he didn't play in '06 and had a good season last year so he'll probably be drafted relatively high. How is that similar to Hamilton?I think the OP wants guys who are off the radar that may have a shot at being uber studs (and has nothing to do with playing in '06 IMO) -- Bowe is on everyone's radar now.

 

[foxco]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

very true

last season Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham went undrafted in most leagues.

Then they clearly weren't within 120-150.

 

[Sweet Love]

Ricky Williams - If Brown is not ready to go (and he is on an aggressive time table), Sparano will be forced to run Ricky into the ground. I am not sure where he is getting drafted right now (guessing 120+), but he will be on my list come draft day once I have selected my top 3-4 RBs.

 

[Kirby]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

very true

last season Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham went undrafted in most leagues.

But Grant and Graham didn't perform great in 06... we're looking for a Hamilton right?

Not sure I'm following. You used Dwayne Bowe as an example but he didn't play in '06 and had a good season last year so he'll probably be drafted relatively high. How is that similar to Hamilton?I think the OP wants guys who are off the radar that may have a shot at being uber studs (and has nothing to do with playing in '06 IMO) -- Bowe is on everyone's radar now.

Hamilton is doing almost exactly the same as he did last year except he has teamates that get on base in front of him. I thought we were looking for someone that's not getting drafted as high as we think they will perform based on what they did last year. Combine that with draft pool... we're looking at an ADP of a little over 50 compared to baseball. The 06 stuff was because they were using Grant and Graham as last year examples.

 

[Fodasme69]

Nate Burleson

 

[northern exposure]

I'll pick Ahmad Bradshaw of the Giants. I'm not sure what his ADP is right now, but I'm sure most people only see him as a handcuff to Jacobs.

I think his role will be much bigger than just a change of pace for Jacobs.

 

[Kirby]

I'll pick Ahmad Bradshaw of the Giants. I'm not sure what his ADP is right now, but I'm sure most people only see him as a handcuff to Jacobs. I think his role will be much bigger than just a change of pace for Jacobs.

I agree with this one if we are looking for a grant/graham comparison.

 

[Fedor Emelianenko]

Ben Utecht will score 12TDs+

 

[FUBAR]

Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe's ADP is 57....I think players like Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams in the 120's fit the bill here

I think an ADP of 50+ would be similar to the much larger player pool in baseball.

Same here... you look at 120 - 150 in football and I don't see a guy that could be top 5.

very true

last season Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham went undrafted in most leagues.

But Grant and Graham didn't perform great in 06... we're looking for a Hamilton right?

Not sure I'm following. You used Dwayne Bowe as an example but he didn't play in '06 and had a good season last year so he'll probably be drafted relatively high. How is that similar to Hamilton?I think the OP wants guys who are off the radar that may have a shot at being uber studs (and has nothing to do with playing in '06 IMO) -- Bowe is on everyone's radar now.

Hamilton is doing almost exactly the same as he did last year except he has teamates that get on base in front of him. I thought we were looking for someone that's not getting drafted as high as we think they will perform based on what they did last year. Combine that with draft pool... we're looking at an ADP of a little over 50 compared to baseball. The 06 stuff was because they were using Grant and Graham as last year examples.

That seems to indicate Willie Parker, Drew Brees, Jay Cutler, Thomas Jones, and Tony Gonzalez. Basically, players whose FF value can soar simply through their teammates improving (mostly in the red zone)

 

[Andy Herron]

I'm going to have to go with Ravens QB Troy Smith.

He's hardly on anybody's radar right now, but should be once training camp gets underway.

You can pin this right now, he's going to put up some good numbers this year.

He's in a prime position to be yet another mid-to-late round QB to blossom.

He'll be the one to finally find the receivers that we all have continually looked for in Baltimore.

 

[BoulderBob]

I'm thinking of a guy drafted in the 5th-7th round that has some noticable talent, but hasn't busted out just yet. Maybe of the rookie RB's(Forte/Smith).

 

[billymays]

RB-I think Kenny Watson is a guy who could finish top 25 and really isnt being drafted. Much more versatile than Rudi, ive always thought Rudi was overrated talent wise and is being exposed a little bit without as good of a push from the oline as he had earlier on in his career. If Watson gets a chance again I think he keeps it.

WR-Ive always liked Mark Bradley for the bears, he looked good early on in his career. if he is healthy he could be the bears #1 target(ahead of hester). granted he plays for the bears so i dont think he can explode, but i think he could get close to berrians numbers 70-900 5 or so.

QB-if you combine the production of leinart and warner from last year their stats are roughly the same as Derek Anderson's... top 10 production. warner finished last year on a tear(2400yds 21tds last 8 games), if leinart isnt getting it done early warner will be in. i look to draft both of these guys late.

*If everyones sleeper is Bryant Johnson, why is he still considered a sleeper?

 

[Jason Wood]

Well, Josh Hamilton wasn't exactly a "where did he come from" sleeper. He was the top pick years ago and considered as close to a can't miss prospect as there's been in the amateur draft in baseball in the last 20 years. Unfortunately he fell into a nasty drug habit and essentially wore out his chances until finding religion last year and getting back on the straight and narrow. And to those who argue Hamilton was traded for next to nothing, let's not forget that the pitching starved Rangers gave up Edison Volquez in the trade; who just happens to be the most dominant young power pitcher in the NL right now.

Throwing all that into a blender, I would argue you need to find someone who was a 1st round pick but is now looking to completely re-establish themselves on a new team.

 

[Jason Wood]

Well, Josh Hamilton wasn't exactly a "where did he come from" sleeper. He was the top pick years ago and considered as close to a can't miss prospect as there's been in the amateur draft in baseball in the last 20 years. Unfortunately he fell into a nasty drug habit and essentially wore out his chances until finding religion last year and getting back on the straight and narrow. And to those who argue Hamilton was traded for next to nothing, let's not forget that the pitching starved Rangers gave up Edison Volquez in the trade; who just happens to be the most dominant young power pitcher in the NL right now.Throwing all that into a blender, I would argue you need to find someone who was a 1st round pick but is now looking to completely re-establish themselves on a new team.

Which brings me to my nomination...RICKY WILLIAMS.Ronnie Brown gets hurt in Week Two, Ricky runs for daylight all year under Tony Sparano, and flash forward to the inevitable cover of Sports Illustrated with Ricky and Josh Hamilton standing side by side under the headline: "Redemption: Twelve Steps at a Time."

 

[bkdphi]

I know this is controversial, but dare I say Mike Williams?

 

[Jason Wood]

I know this is controversial, but dare I say Mike Williams?

I don't think Mike has hit rock bottom yet. Word is he's not long for the Titans' roster.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Here's some that have raised my eyebrows. They have talent, opportunity and timing to be big sleepers.

1. Shaun Hill, QB SF

2. Steve Slaton, RB HOU

3. Mike Walker, WR JAC

4. Dustin Keller, TE NYJ

5. Bryant Johnson, WR, SF (not as much of a sleeper)

6. Jordy Nelson, WR GB

7. Ben Obomanu, WR SEA

8. Anthony Gonzalez WR, IND (again, not much of a sleeper pick)

9. Donnie Avery, WR STL

10. Leon Washington, RB NYJ

11. Marty Booker, WR CHI

12. Keary Colbert, WR DEN (got a hunch on Colbert with DEN)

13. Josh Cribbs, WR CLE (the next Derrick Mason?)

14. Pierre Thomas, RB NO

15. Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelley WR, WAS

 

[PranksterJD]

Throwing all that into a blender, I would argue you need to find someone who was a 1st round pick but is now looking to completely re-establish themselves on a new team.

Chris Perry? Cincy's backfield is kind of muddled right now, so seems like he's got a longshot chance there... Though I like your Ricky Williams pick better.

 

[Garts]

Chris Perry

Lorenzo Booker

 

[Jason Wood]

Chris PerryLorenzo Booker

The Perry one I get, the Booker one...not so much. Booker hasn't ever had a colossal fall. He was a rookie last year who contributed when given the chance, and he was traded to the Eagles where the coaches have had nothing but positive things to say.

 

[Jedeye]

I'm going to have to go with Ravens QB Troy Smith.He's hardly on anybody's radar right now, but should be once training camp gets underway.You can pin this right now, he's going to put up some good numbers this year.He's in a prime position to be yet another mid-to-late round QB to blossom. He'll be the one to finally find the receivers that we all have continually looked for in Baltimore.

Bravo. I like this one.

 

[Franknbeans]

Kevin Jones

 

[southeastjerome]

Steve Slaton is my pick

 

[southeastjerome]

Throwing all that into a blender, I would argue you need to find someone who was a 1st round pick but is now looking to completely re-establish themselves on a new team.

Taking that into consideration, shouldn't that someone also be a 27 year old, lefthanded Gemini?

 

[FUBAR]

Well, Josh Hamilton wasn't exactly a "where did he come from" sleeper. He was the top pick years ago and considered as close to a can't miss prospect as there's been in the amateur draft in baseball in the last 20 years. Unfortunately he fell into a nasty drug habit and essentially wore out his chances until finding religion last year and getting back on the straight and narrow. And to those who argue Hamilton was traded for next to nothing, let's not forget that the pitching starved Rangers gave up Edison Volquez in the trade; who just happens to be the most dominant young power pitcher in the NL right now.

Throwing all that into a blender, I would argue you need to find someone who was a 1st round pick but is now looking to completely re-establish themselves on a new team.

Ah, so IOW, the next Thomas Jones or Randy Moss?