Who wins a 7 game series Kentucky vs 76ers (1 Viewer)

[comfortably numb]

76ers have no real good vets are currently 0-7 and losing games by about 13pts on average. Their starting lineup features 4 players under 25

Last year they won 19 games and lost 27 in a row.

Kentucky comes in as heavy favorites for the NCAA title and boasts 9 All Americans on their roster.

Calipari seems to think they would get buried:

John Calipari ✔ @UKCoachCalipari
FollowI hear Coach Briggs got excited after the game last night. Let me be clear: If we played ANY NBA team, we would get buried. ANY.

What do you think?

Kentucky gets swept? Eeeks out a game? Wins the series?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Kentucky loses in four games by at least 30 every game.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

If there is the opportunity to get a higher draft pick for the Sixers I hope Kentucky would win.

 

[jon_mx]

Are they going to go undefeated like last year?

 

[comfortably numb]

Kentucky loses in four games by at least 30 every game.

I understand this sentiment in football when this question is asked but considering most of 76ers are younger type players and that Kentucky probably has 6-8 1st RD picks on this team.

I think Kentucky could win the series in 6

 

[AAABatteries]

Kentucky in 3.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Kentucky loses in four games by at least 30 every game.

I understand this sentiment in football when this question is asked but considering most of 76ers are younger type players and that Kentucky probably has 6-8 1st RD picks on this team.

I think Kentucky could win the series in 6

Doesn't matter. Sixers in 4.

 

[Kev4029]

Kentucky loses in four games by at least 30 every game.

I really don't think so. The Sixers best player this year, Wroten, would probably be better than anything Kentucky has, but the rest of the team really sucks. Noel hasn't played in nearly two years and isn't playing well at all, SG has been a total joke, LMaM shouldn't be on an NBA roster, and Henry Sims is terrible. Once MCW comes back they'll have a decent back court but the rest of the starting lineup is terrible. Kentucky wouldn't get beat by the starters, they would get beat because the Sixers could platoon off the bench and run Kentucky out of the gym.

I don't know if Kentucky would win a game, but I think they would make a couple of them close. The Sixers might be the worst team in the history of the NBA.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Kentucky loses in four games by at least 30 every game.

I understand this sentiment in football when this question is asked but considering most of 76ers are younger type players and that Kentucky probably has 6-8 1st RD picks on this team.

I think Kentucky could win the series in 6

The 2011-2012 Kentucky team was easily the best of Cal's tenure. Not even close. Four guys in the NBA, including the first and second overall pick. Those two guys were easily the best players in the tournament. They didn't belong in college basketball. People were making the same silly arguments about them.

The subsequent NBA season- the #1 overall pick Anthony Davis, now a full year older and stronger and better at basketball in every way than the guy who dominated the tournament- was the fourth-leading scorer on a 27 win NBA team. He did have the team's highest PER. He's the exception to the rule. Their second best player and the #2 overall pick, MKG, was 8th in scoring on a 21 win team. Their arguably third-best player, Doron Lamb, couldn't crack the rotation of the two lottery teams he played on and is now in the D-league.

I could go all day on these. The two other guys from the all-Final Four team that year, the only two guys who looked like they belonged on the court with Kentucky, have also been NBA flops. It's just a completely different level.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Kentucky loses in four games by at least 30 every game.

I really don't think so. The Sixers best player this year, Wroten, would probably be better than anything Kentucky has, but the rest of the team really sucks. Noel hasn't played in nearly two years and isn't playing well at all, SG has been a total joke, LMaM shouldn't be on an NBA roster, and Henry Sims is terrible. Once MCW comes back they'll have a decent back court but the rest of the starting lineup is terrible. Kentucky wouldn't get beat by the starters, they would get beat because the Sixers could platoon off the bench and run Kentucky out of the gym.

I don't know if Kentucky would win a game, but I think they would make a couple of them close. The Sixers might be the worst team in the history of the NBA.

Worse than the 7-59 Charlotte Bobcats who had Kemba Walker- the guy who single-handedly won an NCAA title that included a Final Four win over Kentucky- as their third or fourth option?

 

[Cyclones]

Sixers in 4.

Calipari is right - you are talking men vs boys. The Harrisons are effective at the college level because they are bigger and stronger than other guards, but they are both slow and would get abused.

This UK team lost a game to the Dominican national team in the summer. They may run roughshod over the rest of the NCAA this year, but they aren't hanging around on the court with an NBA team. The Anthony Davis UK team would beat this UK team in 4 as well.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Would be different if Kentucky had an actual coach coaching them during the game. Calipari is essentially a GM.

 

[Kev4029]

Sixers in 4.

Calipari is right - you are talking men vs boys. The Harrisons are effective at the college level because they are bigger and stronger than other guards, but they are both slow and would get abused.

This UK team lost a game to the Dominican national team in the summer. They may run roughshod over the rest of the NCAA this year, but they aren't hanging around on the court with an NBA team. The Anthony Davis UK team would beat this UK team in 4 as well.

The 76ers are starting a 20 year old, 21 year old, 23 year old, 24 year old and their sixth man is 21. The Harrison brothers are 20, WCS is 21, Poythress is 21, even Towns is already 19. I don't think the age is much of a difference.

 

[randall146]

Fo Fo Fo

 

[Kev4029]

Kentucky loses in four games by at least 30 every game.

I really don't think so. The Sixers best player this year, Wroten, would probably be better than anything Kentucky has, but the rest of the team really sucks. Noel hasn't played in nearly two years and isn't playing well at all, SG has been a total joke, LMaM shouldn't be on an NBA roster, and Henry Sims is terrible. Once MCW comes back they'll have a decent back court but the rest of the starting lineup is terrible. Kentucky wouldn't get beat by the starters, they would get beat because the Sixers could platoon off the bench and run Kentucky out of the gym.

I don't know if Kentucky would win a game, but I think they would make a couple of them close. The Sixers might be the worst team in the history of the NBA.

Worse than the 7-59 Charlotte Bobcats who had Kemba Walker- the guy who single-handedly won an NCAA title that included a Final Four win over Kentucky- as their third or fourth option?

The only advantage the 76ers may have over those Bobcats is a couple mediocre three point shooters. The Bobcats were an epically awful shooting team. They were the only team to shoot less than 30% from the 3 point line since the pre-Melo Nuggets (who would give both the Bobcats and the Sixers a run for their money, Tskitishvili shot under 30% from the field in over 1300 minutes, the only modern day player to do that).

 

[comfortably numb]

Sixers in 4.

Calipari is right - you are talking men vs boys. The Harrisons are effective at the college level because they are bigger and stronger than other guards, but they are both slow and would get abused.

This UK team lost a game to the Dominican national team in the summer. They may run roughshod over the rest of the NCAA this year, but they aren't hanging around on the court with an NBA team. The Anthony Davis UK team would beat this UK team in 4 as well.

The 76ers are starting a 20 year old, 21 year old, 23 year old, 24 year old and their sixth man is 21. The Harrison brothers are 20, WCS is 21, Poythress is 21, even Towns is already 19. I don't think the age is much of a difference.

Right,

This is along the line I was thinking.

It's not like the 76ers are filled with decent vets with a lot of NBA games under their belt.

They are filled with guys who are 1-3 years removed from college.

 

[Jackstraw]

I think talent wise Kentucky might be close but these guys are called professionals for a reason.

They'd run circles around them from a strategic standpoint.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Kentucky loses in four games by at least 30 every game.

I don't see eye to eye with Tobias on a lot of things, but this post is pretty spot on.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Last year's Kentucky team shot 33.2% from behind a 20'9" three point line with the benefit of a 35 second shot clock while being guarded by defensive players who for the most past won't even play overseas.

This year's Sixers team is shooting 33.1% from behind a 23'9" three point line on a 24 second shot clock with guys like Patrick Beverley, Jimmy Butler and the freaks with 9' wing spans in Milwaukee defending them.

 

[Mr. Ected]

I think talent wise Kentucky might be close but these guys are called professionals for a reason.

They'd run circles around them from a strategic standpoint.

Well, yeah! Those kids from Kentucky would have to spend a bunch of time in CLASSES!!

 

[D in the D]

76ers - 213

Wildcats - 3

But they do hold Tony Wroten to 115 points..

 

[Kev4029]

Last year's Kentucky team shot 33.2% from behind a 20'9" three point line with the benefit of a 35 second shot clock while being guarded by defensive players who for the most past won't even play overseas.

This year's Sixers team is shooting 33.1% from behind a 23'9" three point line on a 24 second shot clock with guys like Patrick Beverley, Jimmy Butler and the freaks with 9' wing spans in Milwaukee defending them.

Small sample size, the 76ers three point percentage will fall. Plus, when MCW comes back they'll likely be starting him and Wroten who are career 26% and 24% three point shooters. Thompson is really the only guy that you don't want to leave alone.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Last year's Kentucky team shot 33.2% from behind a 20'9" three point line with the benefit of a 35 second shot clock while being guarded by defensive players who for the most past won't even play overseas.

This year's Sixers team is shooting 33.1% from behind a 23'9" three point line on a 24 second shot clock with guys like Patrick Beverley, Jimmy Butler and the freaks with 9' wing spans in Milwaukee defending them.

Small sample size, the 76ers three point percentage will fall. Plus, when MCW comes back they'll likely be starting him and Wroten who are career 26% and 24% three point shooters. Thompson is really the only guy that you don't want to leave alone.

That was more a way of illustrating the differences in the two games than anything else, although last year's Sixers shot 31% with help from Hawes of course. Another, simpler illustration- this Sixers team hung close with the Bulls for a full game and trailed the Rockets by only one at halftime. Does anyone really think a college team could do something like that?

I also think people are overselling Kentucky's talent. It's an impressive collection, sure, but the guys who are back from last year were on a team that only was good enough to get an 8 seed in the tourney. Sure they went on a nice run (with an assist from the NCAA putting them in a bracket with a mid-major 1 seed), but they lost a ton of games to college teams. They lost twice to Arkansas twice, for Christ's sake. Arkansas, a team that lost in the second round of the NIT. People think you can add two talented but raw big men and some guard depth to a team that lost twice to an NIT team and suddenly compete with an NBA roster? Come on.

 

[Cyclones]

Last year's Kentucky team shot 33.2% from behind a 20'9" three point line with the benefit of a 35 second shot clock while being guarded by defensive players who for the most past won't even play overseas.

This year's Sixers team is shooting 33.1% from behind a 23'9" three point line on a 24 second shot clock with guys like Patrick Beverley, Jimmy Butler and the freaks with 9' wing spans in Milwaukee defending them.

Small sample size, the 76ers three point percentage will fall. Plus, when MCW comes back they'll likely be starting him and Wroten who are career 26% and 24% three point shooters. Thompson is really the only guy that you don't want to leave alone.

That was more a way of illustrating the differences in the two games than anything else, although last year's Sixers shot 31% with help from Hawes of course. Another, simpler illustration- this Sixers team hung close with the Bulls for a full game and trailed the Rockets by only one at halftime. Does anyone really think a college team could do something like that?

I also think people are overselling Kentucky's talent. It's an impressive collection, sure, but the guys who are back from last year were on a team that only was good enough to get an 8 seed in the tourney. Sure they went on a nice run (with an assist from the NCAA putting them in a bracket with a mid-major 1 seed), but they lost a ton of games to college teams. They lost twice to Arkansas twice, for Christ's sake. Arkansas, a team that lost in the second round of the NIT. People think you can add two talented but raw big men and some guard depth to a team that lost twice to an NIT team and suddenly compete with an NBA roster? Come on.

Tobias is right on here. Maybe....MAYBE you take this UK team at the end of the year and pit them in a series with the 76ers and they make one of the 4 games respectable. They are still college kids prone to stupid stuff like missing assignments, rotations, failing to box out, etc. They would get picked apart.

 

[Dentist]

i always find it hilarious when people dream of making comparisons like this.

It's just not even close.....

Kentucky would get beaten consistently by a group of 12th men that had never played together.

 

[Tom Servo]

Last year's Kentucky team shot 33.2% from behind a 20'9" three point line with the benefit of a 35 second shot clock while being guarded by defensive players who for the most past won't even play overseas.

This year's Sixers team is shooting 33.1% from behind a 23'9" three point line on a 24 second shot clock with guys like Patrick Beverley, Jimmy Butler and the freaks with 9' wing spans in Milwaukee defending them.

Small sample size, the 76ers three point percentage will fall. Plus, when MCW comes back they'll likely be starting him and Wroten who are career 26% and 24% three point shooters. Thompson is really the only guy that you don't want to leave alone.

That was more a way of illustrating the differences in the two games than anything else, although last year's Sixers shot 31% with help from Hawes of course. Another, simpler illustration- this Sixers team hung close with the Bulls for a full game and trailed the Rockets by only one at halftime. Does anyone really think a college team could do something like that?

I also think people are overselling Kentucky's talent. It's an impressive collection, sure, but the guys who are back from last year were on a team that only was good enough to get an 8 seed in the tourney. Sure they went on a nice run (with an assist from the NCAA putting them in a bracket with a mid-major 1 seed), but they lost a ton of games to college teams. They lost twice to Arkansas twice, for Christ's sake. Arkansas, a team that lost in the second round of the NIT. People think you can add two talented but raw big men and some guard depth to a team that lost twice to an NIT team and suddenly compete with an NBA roster? Come on.

Tobias is right on here. Maybe....MAYBE you take this UK team at the end of the year and pit them in a series with the 76ers and they make one of the 4 games respectable. They are still college kids prone to stupid stuff like missing assignments, rotations, failing to box out, etc. They would get picked apart.

This. If you catch the 6ers on an off night you might - MIGHT - steal one.

 

[saintsfan]

Usually you hear this stupid crap with the SEC-SEC-SEC crowd in football. Yeah. Alabama can beat the Jacksonville Jaguars right about the time Sam Houston St can beat Alabama...

Sixers would roll...

 

[AAABatteries]

It's obviously pretty ridiculous to think it could happen but I will say that's it's much more likely to happen in basketball than football. In theory you could have a LeBron or Jordan go to college and played on a stacked team with other players that are either NBA quality or close and give a horrible team like the Sixers a game. That seems somewhat plausible to me whereas football would just be a massacre.

 

[Kev4029]

i always find it hilarious when people dream of making comparisons like this.

It's just not even close.....

Kentucky would get beaten consistently by a group of 12th men that had never played together.

I really doubt that is the case.

 

[saintsfan]

It's obviously pretty ridiculous to think it could happen but I will say that's it's much more likely to happen in basketball than football. In theory you could have a LeBron or Jordan go to college and played on a stacked team with other players that are either NBA quality or close and give a horrible team like the Sixers a game. That seems somewhat plausible to me whereas football would just be a massacre.

Yeah, I agree with this. If only because of the number of players involved. A basketball team is 12 players. If you have one LeBron or Kobe and 2 or 3 solid NBA role player types you might be competitive.

On a GREAT college football team, there are probably no more than 3 or 4 NFL players on each side of the ball, at best. Most of these guys are passable NFL players but not stars. The rest of the guys are selling cars after college.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

i always find it hilarious when people dream of making comparisons like this.

It's just not even close.....

Kentucky would get beaten consistently by a group of 12th men that had never played together.

I really doubt that is the case.

For sure they would.

PG: Pargo, Mack (or any number of guys)

SG: CDR, Rush

SF: Hamilton, Fields

Bigs: Arthur, Dorsey, Charlie V, Hayes, Blair

Actually, a team of 12th men would be better than the Sixers.

 

[timschochet]

The only sports where it's possible, albeit very slightly, are baseball and hockey. Low scoring, a great pitching performance or a great goalie performance, and you might win a game now and then.

But basketball has too much scoring. Never happen, not even a single game.

 

[TobiasFunke]

It's obviously pretty ridiculous to think it could happen but I will say that's it's much more likely to happen in basketball than football. In theory you could have a LeBron or Jordan go to college and played on a stacked team with other players that are either NBA quality or close and give a horrible team like the Sixers a game. That seems somewhat plausible to me whereas football would just be a massacre.

Yeah that's right in theory, but given how much Hall of Famers struggle when they first reach the NBA it seems like it would never happen in practice. Jordan went to school for three years and his first NBA team (comparable to the third season for a one and done chronologically speaking) still missed the playoffs. LeBron's first Cavs team was similarly mediocre, and frankly he kind of sucked (.438% eFG, 5 rebounds, 5.4 assists and 3.1 TOV per 36)). Durant's first Sonics team was just awful. If those guys can't lift their games and their teams above mediocre on the NBA spectrum until they've had a year or two playing in the league it's hard to imagine they'd lift college talent/coaching/resources to even the bottom of the NBA spectrum.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

The only sports where it's possible, albeit very slightly, are baseball and hockey. Low scoring, a great pitching performance or a great goalie performance, and you might win a game now and then.

But basketball has too much scoring. Never happen, not even a single game.

Add baseball and hockey to the things that you are completely wrong about.

 

[TobiasFunke]

The only sports where it's possible, albeit very slightly, are baseball and hockey. Low scoring, a great pitching performance or a great goalie performance, and you might win a game now and then.

But basketball has too much scoring. Never happen, not even a single game.

Add baseball and hockey to the things that you are completely wrong about.

Not necessarily with baseball- if you had a great college team with a 1.1 type starter you could beat a bad major league team if things went well. A few random college teams have done it or come close in Spring Training. No chance at a 7 game series, though.

The 2009 Manatee Community College over the Pirates one is my favorite.

 

[Dentist]

i always find it hilarious when people dream of making comparisons like this.

It's just not even close.....

Kentucky would get beaten consistently by a group of 12th men that had never played together.

I really doubt that is the case.

There are a lot of players on Kentucky that will never goto the pros.

Every single 12th man is a PRO

Older, wiser, stronger bodies.. the 3 point line is college is closer

I think most people don't realize how selective the NBA is... out of all the people that play basketball in the entire world there are only about 360 jobs....

Guys 340-360 are still exceptional athletes

 

[Cliff Clavin]

The only sports where it's possible, albeit very slightly, are baseball and hockey. Low scoring, a great pitching performance or a great goalie performance, and you might win a game now and then.

But basketball has too much scoring. Never happen, not even a single game.

Add baseball and hockey to the things that you are completely wrong about.

Not necessarily with baseball- if you had a great college team with a 1.1 type starter you could beat a bad major league team if things went well. A few random college teams have done it or come close in Spring Training. No chance at a 7 game series, though.

The 2009 Manatee Community College over the Pirates one is my favorite.

MLB Spring training teams != MLB teams

 

[Freelove]

Just-out-of-HS kids aren't physically capable of dealing with NBA strength, conditioning, and defense. Especially now that the NBA is serving to concentrate the best basketball talent on the planet into one league. You don't see Moses Malone transitions into pro ball any more, and it's probably even worse on the perimeter, where just freakish natural size won't help compensate.

 

[TobiasFunke]

The only sports where it's possible, albeit very slightly, are baseball and hockey. Low scoring, a great pitching performance or a great goalie performance, and you might win a game now and then.

But basketball has too much scoring. Never happen, not even a single game.

Add baseball and hockey to the things that you are completely wrong about.

Not necessarily with baseball- if you had a great college team with a 1.1 type starter you could beat a bad major league team if things went well. A few random college teams have done it or come close in Spring Training. No chance at a 7 game series, though.

The 2009 Manatee Community College over the Pirates one is my favorite.

MLB Spring training teams != MLB teams

I'd say they're closer to a real MLB team than Manatee Community College is to a College World Series quality team with a Mark Appel or Jonathan Gray type guy on the mound.

 

[D in the D]

i always find it hilarious when people dream of making comparisons like this.

It's just not even close.....

Kentucky would get beaten consistently by a group of 12th men that had never played together.

Wonder what Uwe Blab would say about this

 

[Abraham]

No one can be dumb enough to imagine Kentucky could finish a game within 10 of philly, right?

 

[Premier]

This is not football. I think it would be close. Come fall 2016 there is likely to be more players from this Kentucky team in the NBA than this Philly team.

And this Philly team is atrociously bad.

 

[Fennis]

SEC refs?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

The only sports where it's possible, albeit very slightly, are baseball and hockey. Low scoring, a great pitching performance or a great goalie performance, and you might win a game now and then.

But basketball has too much scoring. Never happen, not even a single game.

Add baseball and hockey to the things that you are completely wrong about.

Not necessarily with baseball- if you had a great college team with a 1.1 type starter you could beat a bad major league team if things went well. A few random college teams have done it or come close in Spring Training. No chance at a 7 game series, though.

The 2009 Manatee Community College over the Pirates one is my favorite.

MLB Spring training teams != MLB teams

I'd say they're closer to a real MLB team than Manatee Community College is to a College World Series quality team with a Mark Appel or Jonathan Gray type guy on the mound.

Sure. But they're not an MLB team who are trying to win a game. A college team could have an ace that could keep a game close but they still have to score runs and that ace can't pitch forever. It would take a miraculous effort that would be on par with Kentucky shooting 20/20 from 3 and beating the Sixers.

 

[Fennis]

No one can be dumb enough to imagine Kentucky could finish a game within 10 of philly, right?

in a 7 game series?

 

[Kev4029]

i always find it hilarious when people dream of making comparisons like this.

It's just not even close.....

Kentucky would get beaten consistently by a group of 12th men that had never played together.

I really doubt that is the case.

For sure they would.

PG: Pargo, Mack (or any number of guys)

SG: CDR, Rush

SF: Hamilton, Fields

Bigs: Arthur, Dorsey, Charlie V, Hayes, Blair

Actually, a team of 12th men would be better than the Sixers.

After looking at this a bit, you guys are right, although I do think a crappy mix of guys like Joey Dorsey and Landry Fields would still lose. I think I forget how many of these guys were uber successful in college but just can't make it in the pros for whatever reason.

If you were building a crappy team of 12th men to beat a good NCAA team, I think filling it with rim protectors (Jeff Withey, Ekpe Udoh, Cole Aldrich), and shooters (Hamilton, Jimmer Fredette, Rush), and a real point guard or two (Kendall Marshall, Mack) would roll on college teams.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Don't know the Sixer's roster - but I imagine they are physically stronger than Kentucky, even if they cannot match the depth and length.

Kentucky held their own against a few professional players in the Bahamas this summer, and I imagine they could win a game against the Sixers, maybe more than 1, if the games were packed close together, where UK's youth would enable them to recover faster.

 

[timschochet]

The only sports where it's possible, albeit very slightly, are baseball and hockey. Low scoring, a great pitching performance or a great goalie performance, and you might win a game now and then.

But basketball has too much scoring. Never happen, not even a single game.

Add baseball and hockey to the things that you are completely wrong about.

as far as hockey goes, isn't Team USA's victory against the USSR in 1980 a reasonable analogy? A single game, a great goalie performance, and it's possible. Not at all likely but possible. In baseball, the advantage of a young ace pitcher is that nobody has faced him. This is why sometimes rookie pitchers have great first and second outings. So I think that's possible too.

 

[Sinn Fein]

No one can be dumb enough to imagine Kentucky could finish a game within 10 of philly, right?

In a series - sure. In a 7-game series over two weeks? I'd take UK +10 for the series.

 

[Premier]

You can't just roll the whole "they're professionals" line out there with this Philly team. They are barely more professional than a D-League team.

In the NFL a pro team would win 1000 times out of 1000. The NBA too. But this Philly team is something else.