Wheelhouse
Footballguy
What's your take on who's going to be the better QB in the NFL?
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Who'll be the better pro QB? Rank 'em in order (1 Viewer)
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This makes some sense I guess as Cutler is more of a boom than bust.I think Leinart is at worst a career good backup.
Young at worst is... Matt Jones?
Cutler at worst is JP Losman.... then again he could be the next Favre (IMO, he definitly won't, but some ppl seem to think so)
This poll should should shed some light on what the consensous opinion in the Shark Pool is, as some thought Cutler was the SP's fave.
J-Rock
Footballguy
Leinart is light years ahead of both Cutler and Young in terms of maturity and knowledge of the game. Young is clearly the most athletic of the group and Cutler was born to be a QB.
I think Leinart is the most ready to play in the NFL and to handle the preassure put on a starting QB in this league. I was dying to see him come out last year to be picked by my niners but the extra year of college ball, ballroom dancing, and mingling with the stars in LA was good for his NFL career.
I think Leinart is the most ready to play in the NFL and to handle the preassure put on a starting QB in this league. I was dying to see him come out last year to be picked by my niners but the extra year of college ball, ballroom dancing, and mingling with the stars in LA was good for his NFL career.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Without also knowing which team each is going to, 
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
Interesting:13 say Leinart is the top choice to succeed
11 say Young is the top choice to succeed
10 say Cutler is the top choice to succeed
7 say Leinart is least likely to succeed of the 3
18 say Young is the least likely to succeed of the 3
9 say Cutler is the least likely to succeed of the 3
jurb26
Footballguy
Leinart, Young, Cutler [ 5 ] ** [9.43%]
Leinart, Cutler, Young [ 11 ] ** [20.75%]
Young, Leinart, Cutler [ 7 ] ** [13.21%]
Young, Cutler, Leinart [ 8 ] ** [15.09%]
Cutler, Leinart, Young [ 13 ] ** [24.53%]
Cutler, Young, Leinart [ 2 ] ** [3.77%]
Depends on the team that drafts them [ 7 ] ** [13.21%]
Total Votes: 53
Interesting.
Leinart, Cutler, Young [ 11 ] ** [20.75%]
Young, Leinart, Cutler [ 7 ] ** [13.21%]
Young, Cutler, Leinart [ 8 ] ** [15.09%]
Cutler, Leinart, Young [ 13 ] ** [24.53%]
Cutler, Young, Leinart [ 2 ] ** [3.77%]
Depends on the team that drafts them [ 7 ] ** [13.21%]
Total Votes: 53
Interesting.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
To date 16 people picked Young #1, 16 people picked Leinart #1 and 15 picked Cutler #1.
It is only the 2nd/3rd splits that are different so far.
It is only the 2nd/3rd splits that are different so far.
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Lienart, Young, Culter
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I see we've built consensus here.
I went Young Cutler Leinart.
I went Young Cutler Leinart.
Chitown Mole
Footballguy
ditto
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
How dare you insinuate I ever would consider any of these mere mortals greater than Young. It's equally appalling to see that Leinart anywhere but 3rd.
YOUNG..................................cutler, lienart. 
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
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cstu
Footballguy
I voted Cutler, but if Leinart goes to the Titans he should be able to execute Chow's spread offense very well and put up good stats. I don't see him as a 30 TD guy, but he'll get 20 or so a year. Should be a winner and put up Aikman-like stats.I put Young last since I believe it's 50/50 whether he'll be out of the league in a few years or in the Pro Bowl. Total boom or bust QB whose odds of success go way up if he's able to spend a couple years on the bench.
Cutler just has "IT" for an NFL QB. His footwork needs to improve but I love the way he throws the ball.
cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
Unless this was a poll to decide who will be better in 2006, why would the team matter much? Coaches, personnel and schemes change, but if a QB is as good as he's supposed to be, he'll be on the team for a decade.Joe Montana steps into a 49ers team that hadn't ranked top 10 in points scored in eight seasons. He sends them on a run of 10 straight top 8 finishes, continued with eight consecutive top 5 seasons from Steve Young. Defensive improvement was just as impressive.Without also knowing which team each is going to,
Dan Marino joins a Miami team that finished 10/11/24/11 during the previous four seasons. Over the next 13 seasons they finished out of the top 8 just three times (although their defense went in the tank during Marino's tenure)
Pre-Peyton Manning: 19/20/16/17/18
With Manning: 19/3/4/2/17/2/1/2
Extreme example with some of the games all-time greats, sure. But it wouldn't be fun any other way
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BigRed
Footballguy
Clay clay I say Clay. I mean Young. I think he is what Vick and his groupies imagine Vick to be (or wish he was). Leinert as a close 2d with Cutler the more risk/reward kinda guy ie might take longer to come along but wouldn't surprise me a bit if he out-classed them all in the end.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
This poll really illustrates the "other guy" theory. Are we honestly expected to believe that 1/3rd of the people answering this poll have seen Jay Cutler play even ONE game...and yet they're that confident he's going to be better than Young and Leinart.
I LOVE it...
I LOVE it...
jurb26
Footballguy
So, you don't think people around here watch college football?This poll really illustrates the "other guy" theory. Are we honestly expected to believe that 1/3rd of the people answering this poll have seen Jay Cutler play even ONE game...and yet they're that confident he's going to be better than Young and Leinart.
I LOVE it...
Chitown Mole
Footballguy
I can only speak for myself...but I've lived in Nashville, and Houston and seen both VY and Cutler play...I was actually pimping Cutler before he was news. November and December posts belowhttp://www.houstonprofootball.com/forums/s...utler#post55939This poll really illustrates the "other guy" theory. Are we honestly expected to believe that 1/3rd of the people answering this poll have seen Jay Cutler play even ONE game...and yet they're that confident he's going to be better than Young and Leinart.
I LOVE it...
http://www.houstonprofootball.com/forums/s...utler#post58396
BlueOnion
Footballguy
If you want to talk mechanics, I can see Cutler being ranked higher than Lienart. However, I got Lienart higher than Cutler for the following reasons:
Being a successful NFL quarterback requires a player to do the following two things and do them extremely well:
1) Manage the game
2) Take what is available from the defense
These two attributes far out weigh any arm-strength or accuracy attributes a college prospect brings to the game and I think Leinart has not only been practicing these attributes but is already pretty polished at them.
At USC, Matt played with a very talented USC team and much of his success at USC was not only embracing these two attributes but excelling at them. He has room for improvement with these attributes, but he is already on his way.
At Vanderbilt, these two attributes were foriegn to Jay Cutler because his teams had far less talent than the teams they were playing against. Much of Cutler's tutoring at Vanderbilt did not involve 'managing the game' or 'take what is given to you'. It was, "Jay, were out-manned in this battle so go out there and try to make plays." This should not be contrued to imply Cutler's potential is limited nor should it mean it will inhibit is maturation as an NFL quarterback. It just brings to the forefront the obstacles Cutler will have to overcome to succeed in the NFL. Cutler's biggest obstacle will be relearning everything he learned at the college level.
It is the gun-slinger \\ try to make plays mentality that Cutler has learned at Vanderbilt that concern me. It is Lienart's manage the game \\ take what is given that has me high on Lienart. I know Cutler is compared to Brett Favre, but Brett Favre has endeared more success on the field when he was under the contraints of Mike Holmgren and endeared more failure when he has been allowed to be a gun-slinger.
Being a successful NFL quarterback requires a player to do the following two things and do them extremely well:
1) Manage the game
2) Take what is available from the defense
These two attributes far out weigh any arm-strength or accuracy attributes a college prospect brings to the game and I think Leinart has not only been practicing these attributes but is already pretty polished at them.
At USC, Matt played with a very talented USC team and much of his success at USC was not only embracing these two attributes but excelling at them. He has room for improvement with these attributes, but he is already on his way.
At Vanderbilt, these two attributes were foriegn to Jay Cutler because his teams had far less talent than the teams they were playing against. Much of Cutler's tutoring at Vanderbilt did not involve 'managing the game' or 'take what is given to you'. It was, "Jay, were out-manned in this battle so go out there and try to make plays." This should not be contrued to imply Cutler's potential is limited nor should it mean it will inhibit is maturation as an NFL quarterback. It just brings to the forefront the obstacles Cutler will have to overcome to succeed in the NFL. Cutler's biggest obstacle will be relearning everything he learned at the college level.
It is the gun-slinger \\ try to make plays mentality that Cutler has learned at Vanderbilt that concern me. It is Lienart's manage the game \\ take what is given that has me high on Lienart. I know Cutler is compared to Brett Favre, but Brett Favre has endeared more success on the field when he was under the contraints of Mike Holmgren and endeared more failure when he has been allowed to be a gun-slinger.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Jurb,Of course a lot of people on this board watch college football, that's the point. But how many times was Vandy televised nationally? Compare that to USC and Texas. Add to that how frequently USC and Texas' highlights were played on Gameday and ESPN recaps, compared to Vandy.So, you don't think people around here watch college football?This poll really illustrates the "other guy" theory. Are we honestly expected to believe that 1/3rd of the people answering this poll have seen Jay Cutler play even ONE game...and yet they're that confident he's going to be better than Young and Leinart.
I LOVE it...
Unless you're a diehard Vandy fan or in a local market, it's almost a certainty you didn't see Jay Cutler play more than once or twice in his career. IMHO.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Tecmo, don't kid yourself. How many people on this board do you think happened to see every Vandy game that was carried on ESPN2? To suggest otherwise is being disingenuous.But Jason "I had no idea who Cutler was so he couldn't be as good as these guys" Wood already told us that it was impossible for anyone to have seen Cutler play more than once or twice in his 4 YEAR CAREER if you were out of the Nashville market.
RnR
Footballguy
These games were against LSU, Georgia, and Florida at primetime (7 pm ET). They played the first game of the 2005 college football season on a Thursday night against Wake Forest. This is one season. Cutler was a four year starter. If people only saw Cutler play once or twice, it wasn't because there wasn't an opportunity to see him more.Tecmo, don't kid yourself. How many people on this board do you think happened to see every Vandy game that was carried on ESPN2? To suggest otherwise is being disingenuous.But Jason "I had no idea who Cutler was so he couldn't be as good as these guys" Wood already told us that it was impossible for anyone to have seen Cutler play more than once or twice in his 4 YEAR CAREER if you were out of the Nashville market.
jurb26
Footballguy
These are all schools that people WILL tune in to see play. So even if the casual fan doesn't want/care to see Vandy play. The are forced to if they care about these other top tier schools.These games were against LSU, Georgia, and Florida at primetime (7 pm ET). They played the first game of the 2005 college football season on a Thursday night against Wake Forest. This is one season. Cutler was a four year starter. If people only saw Cutler play once or twice, it wasn't because there wasn't an opportunity to see him more.Tecmo, don't kid yourself. How many people on this board do you think happened to see every Vandy game that was carried on ESPN2? To suggest otherwise is being disingenuous.But Jason "I had no idea who Cutler was so he couldn't be as good as these guys" Wood already told us that it was impossible for anyone to have seen Cutler play more than once or twice in his 4 YEAR CAREER if you were out of the Nashville market.
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
Just to update....Lainart = 59 first place votes
Cutler = 40
Young = 34
Cutler = 51 second place votes
Leinart = 46
Young = 36
Giving 1st place votes the most weight, you gotta give the consensous #1 to Leinart. Cutler 2nd, Young 3rd. But it's clear there is no big dropoff between the big 3.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I know you don't care Jason, but you are killing your credibility with me. Just let it go. SEC football is the most watched college football in the country (and I'm a PSU fan) and I'm sure there are alot of people here who have seen a 4 year starter on a SEC team quite a bit.Tecmo, don't kid yourself. How many people on this board do you think happened to see every Vandy game that was carried on ESPN2? To suggest otherwise is being disingenuous.But Jason "I had no idea who Cutler was so he couldn't be as good as these guys" Wood already told us that it was impossible for anyone to have seen Cutler play more than once or twice in his 4 YEAR CAREER if you were out of the Nashville market.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
One thing I like about Cutler is that he played with far less talent than Young or Lienart. Something has to be said for that. I also like the way the guy showed up to the combine with something to prove. I think he will show up to an NFL camp the same way. He just seems to have more to prove and he shows it where Young and Lienart seem to act like they have nothing to prove to anyone.
Lienart was great in college but he got rattled a few times and I was never that impressed with him to start with. He may be a great QB in the NFL but I will be interested to see how he deals with adversity and losing. He really seemed to get bent out of shape in his post-chamiponship game interviews, seemed like he was letting the emotions get the best of him. If he ends up in New Orleans, Sean Payton is a great QB coach and he wil have a pretty class guy to learn from in Brees. If he ends up in Tenn, he has Chow there and they have worked together before so that might be a good fit for him.
Vince Young, no comment. I am a longhorn fan and I feel my opinion is biased on Young. I do think if he ends up in Tennessee he will end up being a star. If he ends up in Oakland, I don't know how well that will work out.
Lienart was great in college but he got rattled a few times and I was never that impressed with him to start with. He may be a great QB in the NFL but I will be interested to see how he deals with adversity and losing. He really seemed to get bent out of shape in his post-chamiponship game interviews, seemed like he was letting the emotions get the best of him. If he ends up in New Orleans, Sean Payton is a great QB coach and he wil have a pretty class guy to learn from in Brees. If he ends up in Tenn, he has Chow there and they have worked together before so that might be a good fit for him.
Vince Young, no comment. I am a longhorn fan and I feel my opinion is biased on Young. I do think if he ends up in Tennessee he will end up being a star. If he ends up in Oakland, I don't know how well that will work out.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Hey Construx,Sorry to hear that but I would hope, given the multitude of topics and opinions we cover around here, a vehement disagreement on one topic wouldn't kill my credibility. Would you really rather me back down and not be passionate about what I think to be a fairly consistent trend of people latching onto the "other" QB? It's how I see this honestly. I've got no real issue with Jay Cutler other than I think, knowing what we all know of him, I can't see how anyone absent a professional scout who's seen all of these guys and their game film in totality, could say with confidence Cutler is more likely to be the better pro.I know you don't care Jason, but you are killing your credibility with me. Just let it go. SEC football is the most watched college football in the country (and I'm a PSU fan) and I'm sure there are alot of people here who have seen a 4 year starter on a SEC team quite a bit.Tecmo, don't kid yourself. How many people on this board do you think happened to see every Vandy game that was carried on ESPN2? To suggest otherwise is being disingenuous.But Jason "I had no idea who Cutler was so he couldn't be as good as these guys" Wood already told us that it was impossible for anyone to have seen Cutler play more than once or twice in his 4 YEAR CAREER if you were out of the Nashville market.
Look at what makes Tom Brady so great...it's not arm strength, it's not being a gunslinger. Also, aside from Brett Favre, I would contend most NFL fans would prefer NOT to have a real gunslinger at the helm of their team. Jay Cutler has it built into his football DNA that he has to force players, be a one man show, try to hold onto the ball despite the pass rush, break the pocket and try to make something happen. Not the recipe (IMHO) for a guy you spend a top 10 pick on and try to build your franchise around.
RnR
Footballguy
Strong words from a guy that admittedly never really paid any attention to Cutler in college. I'd rather you back down and say "I really haven't seen enough of this guy to form an educated opinion" rather than come on here and make a fool of yourself. I'm sure JB would appreciate that as well.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Yeah, that was a bit of a jerk comment and I apologize for it. Although you are probably correct in some sense, I think that you are really insulting the folks here by assumung that "none" of them beyond Chaos, etc really have seen enough to form an opinion on Cutler. What is so strange to me is that you are so sure that no one sees these games because Vandy is such a poor team in general. But I know that I saw 3 Vandy games this year and only 2 of USC (ND and UT) and 2 of Texas (OSU and USC). In the South, the SEC is pretty huge and they show all the games down here on Jefferson Pilot or other regional stations, so even without trying to watch Vandy or Kentucky or someone like that, you still see them 2-3 times a year. Add in the fact that he isn't llike Boller coming out of nowhere and started for 4 years, and your argument that very few people on this board have seen him doesn't seem like it's a very good argument. I'd rather you concentrate on the other reasons for not liking him.Hey Construx,Sorry to hear that but I would hope, given the multitude of topics and opinions we cover around here, a vehement disagreement on one topic wouldn't kill my credibility. Would you really rather me back down and not be passionate about what I think to be a fairly consistent trend of people latching onto the "other" QB? It's how I see this honestly. I've got no real issue with Jay Cutler other than I think, knowing what we all know of him, I can't see how anyone absent a professional scout who's seen all of these guys and their game film in totality, could say with confidence Cutler is more likely to be the better pro.I know you don't care Jason, but you are killing your credibility with me. Just let it go. SEC football is the most watched college football in the country (and I'm a PSU fan) and I'm sure there are alot of people here who have seen a 4 year starter on a SEC team quite a bit.Tecmo, don't kid yourself. How many people on this board do you think happened to see every Vandy game that was carried on ESPN2? To suggest otherwise is being disingenuous.But Jason "I had no idea who Cutler was so he couldn't be as good as these guys" Wood already told us that it was impossible for anyone to have seen Cutler play more than once or twice in his 4 YEAR CAREER if you were out of the Nashville market.
Look at what makes Tom Brady so great...it's not arm strength, it's not being a gunslinger. Also, aside from Brett Favre, I would contend most NFL fans would prefer NOT to have a real gunslinger at the helm of their team. Jay Cutler has it built into his football DNA that he has to force players, be a one man show, try to hold onto the ball despite the pass rush, break the pocket and try to make something happen. Not the recipe (IMHO) for a guy you spend a top 10 pick on and try to build your franchise around.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Hey Tecmo,You're entitled to disagree with me, or even think I'm way off base. But I assure you that one of the main reasons I'm on staff and write as much as I do is BECAUSE I have strong opinions, not despite it.
All the best,
Jason
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I agree with Jason that most of the people in the SP haven't seen much, if any, of Cutler. A large chunk in the SP doesn't watch college football that much, and a much larger doesn't watch Vanderbilt. Sure the big time college football fans have seen some of his games, but IMO the overwhelming majority of big time NFL fans have seen less than 180 minutes of Vandy football in the last year.
As for ranking the guys...they all look like studs (that's why they're all projected top 10). For my money, I think Young is the best prospect in the bunch and looks like the nex stud. I'd be
if the Jets took him.
As for ranking the guys...they all look like studs (that's why they're all projected top 10). For my money, I think Young is the best prospect in the bunch and looks like the nex stud. I'd be
if the Jets took him.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Fixed.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Maybe you missed the Hawk = BOD thread. LHUCKS doesn't really know what he's talking about.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
YOu know nothing about Vince Young, stop posting here like you do. He is nothing like Vick. They do not play the same style. They are not the same size. They are nothing alike. There are no comparisons between Vick and Young.Please, do not post anything about else about Vince Young since you know nothing about him.
TIA.
Hi texas,I can easily see similarities between Vick and Young. They both are exceptionally talented guys, especially running the ball. From a Vick Bio:
I'd call that a pretty good description of Young as well.I don't have the stats in front of me, but I believe Vick had exceptionally good pass efficiency numbers his last year in college. Just as Young has.
Compared to a guy like Leinart who seems ready to step into a pro style offense, Young has significant questions about how well he can adapt to and run a pro style offense, just as Vick has.
Bottom line is I can see the comparison.
J
And for what it's worth -
While I've been pimping Cutler, I'd have a hard time saying I'd actually select him above Leinart. If push came to shove, I'd rank him just slightly higher than Leinart but closer to dead even. Where I differ is that most folks have Leinart clearly as the #1 guy and I think it's much closer than that.
It's also troublesome as there is no way you can select a Cutler at #3 as even though you may think he deserves that, you can get him later as his perceived value is more in the late first part to middle of the first round.
J
While I've been pimping Cutler, I'd have a hard time saying I'd actually select him above Leinart. If push came to shove, I'd rank him just slightly higher than Leinart but closer to dead even. Where I differ is that most folks have Leinart clearly as the #1 guy and I think it's much closer than that.
It's also troublesome as there is no way you can select a Cutler at #3 as even though you may think he deserves that, you can get him later as his perceived value is more in the late first part to middle of the first round.
J
Texasmouth
Footballguy
They are no where close to each other in actual playing style or physical size. Vince Young is 6'5" Mike Vick isn't. Vick is a speedy runner, Vince Young isn't.
Vick runs because he is fast. Vince Young runs to take advantage of open holes.
Vince Young is comparible to Randall Cunningham, not Mike Vick.
Mike Vick is no where near as good of a QB as Vince Young, even now in my opinion.
The same things you quoted up there are the same things you can say about most QB coming out of college.
Lienart is Lienart. I don't think Lienart's ability has anything to do with Vince Young. I like them both, actually all three, I just think comparing Vince Young and Vick is a bad comparison.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Hey Joe,They really are nothing alike.
Outside of the physical differences in size (huge) and strength (huge), Vick totalled just 2,420 yards his last year; Young totalled 4,086 yards his senior year.
The best comparisons to Young are Roethlisberger, McNair and Culpepper.
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
And randall cunningham
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
By far the hardest transition from college to pros in all four major sports is football. Even though the game objective is the same, the professional level is much different than college.
Although combine skills like arm strength, mobility, accuracy and speed is important, the bottom line is, can you move the ball, make plays under pressure, read defenses and then react to them, learn the offense, and finally, can you consistently score.
Those that have both or learn to have both the tangibles and the intangibles are your perrenial pro bowlers.
The question now begs - how can we scout the intangibles? good question!
Ryan Leaf apparently had the tangibles, but he lacked the intangibles. David Carr appeared to have both at the college level, but he hasn't exactly lit the league on fire.
So where does Leinart, Cutler and Young fit into all this?
Vince Young - I can see Young being another McNabb, but he has the form and release of Rob Johnson, which leads me to think he'll be somewhere between Quincy Carter and Kordell Stewart when its all said and done. The notion that Mack Brown allegedly made his offense simpler to cater to Young's inability to comprehend really gives me the indication that Young doesn't have the intangibles. Throw in the "6" on the Wunderlich just to put the cherry on top of my opinion of Young's future.
Jay Cutler - So the scouts say Cutler has the intangibles to go with his size, arm strength and ability to progress through his targets. I like what I hear so far... He doesn't have the greatest footwork in the pocket, but that can be coached. He may try to force his passes - but most rookies will do that. If Cutler finds a good offense, he could thrive, but I don't see him being the difference maker of any team just yet. Maybe in time, but it will be a gradual learning process with him and I think that's what he needs. I see Cutler being somewhere between a David Carr and a Rich Gannon when its all said and done.
Matt Leinart - He has the potential to have that rare combination of tangible and intangible skills I mentioned above. When I see Leinart play I see someone who looks better than Carson Palmer. I see leadership, confidence and the field smarts to do what it takes to move the ball well consistently. If injury risk is his only negative, sign me up for that guy. He won't make it past the Titans at #3.
My ranking...
Leinart
*
*
*
*
Cutler
*
*
*
Young
Although combine skills like arm strength, mobility, accuracy and speed is important, the bottom line is, can you move the ball, make plays under pressure, read defenses and then react to them, learn the offense, and finally, can you consistently score.
Those that have both or learn to have both the tangibles and the intangibles are your perrenial pro bowlers.
The question now begs - how can we scout the intangibles? good question!
Ryan Leaf apparently had the tangibles, but he lacked the intangibles. David Carr appeared to have both at the college level, but he hasn't exactly lit the league on fire.
So where does Leinart, Cutler and Young fit into all this?
Vince Young - I can see Young being another McNabb, but he has the form and release of Rob Johnson, which leads me to think he'll be somewhere between Quincy Carter and Kordell Stewart when its all said and done. The notion that Mack Brown allegedly made his offense simpler to cater to Young's inability to comprehend really gives me the indication that Young doesn't have the intangibles. Throw in the "6" on the Wunderlich just to put the cherry on top of my opinion of Young's future.
Jay Cutler - So the scouts say Cutler has the intangibles to go with his size, arm strength and ability to progress through his targets. I like what I hear so far... He doesn't have the greatest footwork in the pocket, but that can be coached. He may try to force his passes - but most rookies will do that. If Cutler finds a good offense, he could thrive, but I don't see him being the difference maker of any team just yet. Maybe in time, but it will be a gradual learning process with him and I think that's what he needs. I see Cutler being somewhere between a David Carr and a Rich Gannon when its all said and done.
Matt Leinart - He has the potential to have that rare combination of tangible and intangible skills I mentioned above. When I see Leinart play I see someone who looks better than Carson Palmer. I see leadership, confidence and the field smarts to do what it takes to move the ball well consistently. If injury risk is his only negative, sign me up for that guy. He won't make it past the Titans at #3.
My ranking...
Leinart
*
*
*
*
Cutler
*
*
*
Young
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
How can your claim that Young doesn't have the intangibles be based on his Wunderlic score?If you're saying he's not intelligent, it's hard to get more tangible than an IQ score.
