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Who's getting the ball in St. Louis? (1 Viewer)

It appears that they will let youth take over on the outside so it was smart to get a middle of the field target with experience in Cook. I could see Givens in the slot with Quick and a rookie on the outside. Unsettling with all of the youth but they don't appear to be panicking in free agency about it. It will be interesting to see how much progress Quick can make in the offseason. I would think after the dust settles a veteran RB joins the backfield.

 
It appears that they will let youth take over on the outside so it was smart to get a middle of the field target with experience in Cook. I could see Givens in the slot with Quick and a rookie on the outside. Unsettling with all of the youth but they don't appear to be panicking in free agency about it. It will be interesting to see how much progress Quick can make in the offseason. I would think after the dust settles a veteran RB joins the backfield.
I don't think Givens is a slot guy. He's more of an outside burner who stretches the field.
 
It appears that they will let youth take over on the outside so it was smart to get a middle of the field target with experience in Cook. I could see Givens in the slot with Quick and a rookie on the outside. Unsettling with all of the youth but they don't appear to be panicking in free agency about it. It will be interesting to see how much progress Quick can make in the offseason. I would think after the dust settles a veteran RB joins the backfield.
I don't think Givens is a slot guy. He's more of an outside burner who stretches the field.
Agreed. Cook is the "slot" guy.
 
It appears that they will let youth take over on the outside so it was smart to get a middle of the field target with experience in Cook. I could see Givens in the slot with Quick and a rookie on the outside. Unsettling with all of the youth but they don't appear to be panicking in free agency about it. It will be interesting to see how much progress Quick can make in the offseason. I would think after the dust settles a veteran RB joins the backfield.
Cook will basically act as a slot WR. Givens is not a slot guy. He's a deep threat, outside guy in the mold of Torrey Smith or Mike Wallace.
 
Agreed on Givens being outside, with Cook and Pettis on the inside. Question mark is if Quick can be the other outside guy at this point. I didn't see anything from him last year that says he's ready at this point, if ever. Just when we forgot about Donnie Avery, we get to deal with another major suspect WR that was an early 2nd rounder.

 
the cooker

Jared Cook's five-year contract with the Rams has a maximum value of $38.5M and includes $19M guaranteed.

The Titans couldn't find a way to use Cook, but the Rams (and others) were willing break the bank on him. His average annual salary currently ranks sixth among tight ends in the league, behind only Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Gates, Vernon Davis, Jason Witten and Aaron Hernandez.

keller did pretty well with schotty

 
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the cooker

Jared Cook's five-year contract with the Rams has a maximum value of $38.5M and includes $19M guaranteed.

The Titans couldn't find a way to use Cook, but the Rams (and others) were willing break the bank on him. His average annual salary currently ranks sixth among tight ends in the league, behind only Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Gates, Vernon Davis, Jason Witten and Aaron Hernandez.

keller did pretty well with schotty
Keller always started off strong and seemed to fade as the season did...
 
No Kendricks? I'm not going to pretend to know what the Ram WR situation is, but shouldn't they at least try to use him like a regular TE with Cook in the slot?

Full disclosure: I do own Kendricks in my main league.

 
the cooker

Jared Cook's five-year contract with the Rams has a maximum value of $38.5M and includes $19M guaranteed.

The Titans couldn't find a way to use Cook, but the Rams (and others) were willing break the bank on him. His average annual salary currently ranks sixth among tight ends in the league, behind only Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Gates, Vernon Davis, Jason Witten and Aaron Hernandez.

keller did pretty well with schotty
$7m/year suggests that wherever he lines up they're planning on throwing him the damn ball. And right now he has an average, but improving, QB and not a ton of competition. Glad to own him where I do and wish I'd bought in a few places where I don't. But the price probably just jumped enough that it's too high for my bargain-shopper tastes.

 
No Kendricks? I'm not going to pretend to know what the Ram WR situation is, but shouldn't they at least try to use him like a regular TE with Cook in the slot?Full disclosure: I do own Kendricks in my main league.
What people tend to forget is that Kendricks was a Josh McDaniels pick/project, who at the time was hoping to replicate the Gronk/Hernandez success in NE. The problem is that while Kendricks often looked to be a star in preseason, he couldn't replicate that in the games that counted. He might eventually live up to his potential, but since he was the choice of a prior regime, I kinda doubt he will be given the opportunity to show it.
 
Agreed on Givens being outside, with Cook and Pettis on the inside. Question mark is if Quick can be the other outside guy at this point. I didn't see anything from him last year that says he's ready at this point, if ever. Just when we forgot about Donnie Avery, we get to deal with another major suspect WR that was an early 2nd rounder.
Avery and Quick are two completely different types of WR's.Quick is 6 foot 3, 220 lbs.

Avery is 5'11, 190 lbs.

I think too many people are underrating Quick due to being a raw rookie from a small school and taking sometime to "get" a pro level offense and the game of football in general. Many do not realize that Quick did not start playing football until his senior year in high school. He has playing football for only 5 years.

Quick has all the tools to be a WR1 on the outside. I don't think you can count him out as a nice piece for Bradford and the Rams going forward. If the game slows down for Quick you will see how good he can be. He was still learning his splits, formatioins etc last year. He may have only had 11 catches but you could see the athleticism in some of those catches.

Check out this 4 yard fade route where Bradford threw it up to him for the TD.

He also had a 36 yard TD catch against the 49ers.

Quick can be a physical force and a very good YAC guy. Quick ran a 4.50 flat at the combine last year. That is very elite speed for a guy his size.

I think he could surprise a lot of people as early as this year.

It is looking increasingly likely that he will start for the Rams this year and that they are willing to learn as he goes. I say buy cheap now.

 
Agreed on Givens being outside, with Cook and Pettis on the inside. Question mark is if Quick can be the other outside guy at this point. I didn't see anything from him last year that says he's ready at this point, if ever. Just when we forgot about Donnie Avery, we get to deal with another major suspect WR that was an early 2nd rounder.
Avery and Quick are two completely different types of WR's.Quick is 6 foot 3, 220 lbs.

Avery is 5'11, 190 lbs.

I think too many people are underrating Quick due to being a raw rookie from a small school and taking sometime to "get" a pro level offense and the game of football in general. Many do not realize that Quick did not start playing football until his senior year in high school. He has playing football for only 5 years.

Quick has all the tools to be a WR1 on the outside. I don't think you can count him out as a nice piece for Bradford and the Rams going forward. If the game slows down for Quick you will see how good he can be. He was still learning his splits, formatioins etc last year. He may have only had 11 catches but you could see the athleticism in some of those catches.

Check out this 4 yard fade route where Bradford threw it up to him for the TD.

Quick is a project, the question is how long of a leash he gets. If he has less than 500 yards receiving this year and next, do they keep him for a 4th year?
 
Lots of mocks have a Keenan Allen ending up there also. Does that really happen. A Tavon Austin to replace Amendola with younger guy

 
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Agreed on Givens being outside, with Cook and Pettis on the inside. Question mark is if Quick can be the other outside guy at this point. I didn't see anything from him last year that says he's ready at this point, if ever. Just when we forgot about Donnie Avery, we get to deal with another major suspect WR that was an early 2nd rounder.
Avery and Quick are two completely different types of WR's.Quick is 6 foot 3, 220 lbs.

Avery is 5'11, 190 lbs.

I think too many people are underrating Quick due to being a raw rookie from a small school and taking sometime to "get" a pro level offense and the game of football in general. Many do not realize that Quick did not start playing football until his senior year in high school. He has playing football for only 5 years.

Quick has all the tools to be a WR1 on the outside. I don't think you can count him out as a nice piece for Bradford and the Rams going forward. If the game slows down for Quick you will see how good he can be. He was still learning his splits, formatioins etc last year. He may have only had 11 catches but you could see the athleticism in some of those catches.

Check out this 4 yard fade route where Bradford threw it up to him for the TD.

I hope you're right. :thumbup:
 
Cook, Givens, Richardson, Quick, Pead, Kendricks is probably the pecking order.

Remember the old days when receivers weren't expected to do much in their first year, especially raw ones that needed coaching?

I'm not saying that Quick's going to be a stud, but people's expectations nowadays have really taken a turn for the impatient. They picked him, and they're going to wait this out. I can't see them giving up on him; Fisher's already said that they knew they were getting a receiver that wouldn't be ready right away. It's doubtful they take a WR early. Snead isn't Millen.

Here's a nice analysis of all of Quick's targets:

TurfShowTimes-Quick

 
1. Cook: 5 years, $35 million, $19 mil guaranteed

2. Amendola: 5 years, $31 million, $10 mil guaranteed

3. Cook doesn't block.

Draw your own conclusions.

 
Givens really has some eye popping stats when you break them down and it looks like he has big play potential. The problem is going to be consistency so if you can acquire him in a best ball format I think you will win big because Givens is likely to have 5-6 big games, trying to pick the right ones will drive owners nuts. bradford is not a top 15 QB right now...there is some limit on the upside all the way around but perhaps better weapons, OL, maybe Bradford will now take the next step with a better head coach than he has had since Stoops at Oklahoma. Good luck to him.

 
Richardson is the own here. He showed some serious ability last season. I'm not sold on Cook at all. Looks like Tarzan and all that. Pead is going to be the handcuff.

 

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