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Who's Going To The Super Bowl (1 Viewer)
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Memphis Mutiny
Footballguy
Saints and Patties were my preseason pick. Sticking with that for now.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Going with NE/Min right now.
Indy is the team to beat in the AFC, but their lack of a running game will hurt them come January, even playing at home in the dome. I still think the Patriots have yet to play their best ball.
I can't believe I am picking a Brad Childress-coached team to make it, but they are rock solid everywhere, and the Saints are showing a lot more cracks than the Vikings are.
Indy is the team to beat in the AFC, but their lack of a running game will hurt them come January, even playing at home in the dome. I still think the Patriots have yet to play their best ball.
I can't believe I am picking a Brad Childress-coached team to make it, but they are rock solid everywhere, and the Saints are showing a lot more cracks than the Vikings are.
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Colts vs Vikes.
Vikes look more complete than the Saints to me.
Colts have Manning. Of course the poll number for NE is high because so many think NE is just going to switch on a light when needed. Why is that? They couldn't stop Peyton and Peyton is in BB's head now.
Vikes look more complete than the Saints to me.
Colts have Manning. Of course the poll number for NE is high because so many think NE is just going to switch on a light when needed. Why is that? They couldn't stop Peyton and Peyton is in BB's head now.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
Preview: Week 12 on Monday Night in New Orleans...Patriots @ Saints
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Twilight
Footballguy
That sums it up for me
vikingdave
Footballguy
I picked Vikes/Pats preseason...Ill stick with that...
The Saints are a very good team, but this season reminds me ALOT of 1998(ugh)...only this year the Saints look like Minnesota that year, great O, avg IMO D that can be taken advantage of...and I think the Vikings are a better overall team that can beat the Saints...
Im a homer, but I dont see a team the Vikings cant beat, that doesnt mean they wont lose again, I just dont know who will beat them...
The Saints are a very good team, but this season reminds me ALOT of 1998(ugh)...only this year the Saints look like Minnesota that year, great O, avg IMO D that can be taken advantage of...and I think the Vikings are a better overall team that can beat the Saints...
Im a homer, but I dont see a team the Vikings cant beat, that doesnt mean they wont lose again, I just dont know who will beat them...
Tau837
Footballguy
Chargers and Vikings. I simply think the Vikings are better than the Saints. As for the Chargers:
1. They are rolling, and they are 9-0 in December under Norv.
2. They are in position to possibly earn a first round playoff bye if they beat Cincy at home in a few weeks. There are only two teams with winning records on their schedule in the final six games. The remaining schedule: KC, @CLE, @DAL, CIN, @TEN, WAS.
3. They have beaten the Colts the past two years in the playoffs, including a win in Indy in the 2007 division round. They won 3 of 4 games against the Colts in 2007 and 2008, with the only loss by 3 points in the 2008 regular season. The Chargers match up pretty well with the Colts, as evidenced by those results.
1. They are rolling, and they are 9-0 in December under Norv.
2. They are in position to possibly earn a first round playoff bye if they beat Cincy at home in a few weeks. There are only two teams with winning records on their schedule in the final six games. The remaining schedule: KC, @CLE, @DAL, CIN, @TEN, WAS.
3. They have beaten the Colts the past two years in the playoffs, including a win in Indy in the 2007 division round. They won 3 of 4 games against the Colts in 2007 and 2008, with the only loss by 3 points in the 2008 regular season. The Chargers match up pretty well with the Colts, as evidenced by those results.
Tau837
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Saints for sure.
In the AFC of course I have to vote for my Steelers. But let's just suppose, for an impossible moment, that the Steelers got incredibly unlucky and did not make it there....
In that case, I have to say I really really like the San Diego Chargers. They are starting to peak and look very good to me. Can they avoid choking in the playoffs as they have so often in the past? If Pittsburgh folds, that's the team I'm rooting for.
And a Phillip Rivers vs. Drew Brees SB would be great theater.
In the AFC of course I have to vote for my Steelers. But let's just suppose, for an impossible moment, that the Steelers got incredibly unlucky and did not make it there....
In that case, I have to say I really really like the San Diego Chargers. They are starting to peak and look very good to me. Can they avoid choking in the playoffs as they have so often in the past? If Pittsburgh folds, that's the team I'm rooting for.
And a Phillip Rivers vs. Drew Brees SB would be great theater.
You're mistaking cracks with injuries. How many teams can win without their starting DTs, starting CBs, All-Pro LT, and their returning leader in receiving? Throw in the fact each of the 3 RBs has missed time, and the SLB missed 3 games and the FB is on IR, it's amazing they are undefeated. Healthy, no one could stay close. Now they are still winning despite terrible injuries. All but Clancy and Evans will be back for the playoffs.
PS: the Saints running game is much better than the Vikes, don't let pretty names cloud your judgement.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I'd love to hear the cases for the non-Top 2 votes in the NFC - and no, I didn't vote Philly. I picked MIN but NO/MIN should be the NFCCG for sure.
ETA: This could be the most "sterile" playoffs with so many games in domes - only the AFC #2 team will likely be outdoors after the Wild Card round should things hold to form.
ETA: This could be the most "sterile" playoffs with so many games in domes - only the AFC #2 team will likely be outdoors after the Wild Card round should things hold to form.
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NeverEnough
Footballguy
Colts vs Saints.
75 points scored
75 points scored
Chaka
Footballguy
I agree that the Saints are better but that part is laughable.
Clifton
Footballguy
LORLPats VikesWas surprised to see so many others vote this way.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Vikings without a doubt, mvp at QB and ROY with Harvin, oh yea that AP guy not to bad either
NE they take the Saints down a notch next Monday night
NE they take the Saints down a notch next Monday night
gianmarco
Footballguy
I gotta admit, I prefer "sterile" playoffs. I know this is easily going to be the minority viewpoint and looks like the "soft" stance, but watching 2 teams who played the vast majority of the season under mostly normal weather conditions fight it out in frigid temps with gusting winds and inches of snow is not what I think the playoffs should be about. Add in the fact that certain teams have a built-in advantage simply because of geography and I'm even more against it. I'm not just saying that because the Saints are a dome team as I've felt this way all these years that they haven't even been involved in the playoffs. The fact that the Super Bowl is played in either a dome or warm climate is only icing on the cake. I understand that this will never be changed and that if a poor December weather team is good enough to earn HFA that they earn the right to play in their stadium. That being said, if all the games involved were in good climates and/or domes, I'd be much happier that the quality of football played would be improved and would more closely represent the true talent of the teams involved. It's the pansy view, but I'm ok with that. I just prefer good football instead of old-fashioned, rough, play through anything, see who is the toughest football.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I know some people who think all playoff games should be played indoors to decide the game on the field and not because of the elements. Some of them even advocate playing all games at neutral sites to make it's a fair fight as well.I personally wouldn't have a problem with either of those, but most people will have a hard time forgoing the concept of homefield advantage.
MaddHatter
Footballguy
Prior to the start of the season, I placed futures on the Patriots, Colts, and Packers.
Now, I think we will see the Colts-Vikings.
Now, I think we will see the Colts-Vikings.
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
Next week when the Cardinals wipe the floor with the Vikes many people will be jumoing on the wagon.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
The Vikes thumped the Cards in Arizona last year 35-14. What changed that will make the Cards win this time around?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Have you SEEN Dallas' offense?If you have, you should return it to Jerry Jones because he's been looking for it for the last two weeks....
Vikings/Colts in the SB
Saints/Vikings in the NFC Championship game.
Cincinnati/Indianapolis in the AFC Championship game.
Vikings win SB by 3 on final drive of the game. 59 total points scored, Minnesota 31 Indianapolis 28 - one defensive/special teams TD scored by each team.
Saints/Vikings in the NFC Championship game.
Cincinnati/Indianapolis in the AFC Championship game.
Vikings win SB by 3 on final drive of the game. 59 total points scored, Minnesota 31 Indianapolis 28 - one defensive/special teams TD scored by each team.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Vikings/Patriots
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Clifton
Footballguy
:reported:
Shawnky
Footballguy
I think people are forgetting how great an injury free Saints D played. Remember the Giants game?Mustang Man
Footballguy
LOL always having to take shots at Dallas. Typical Eagle fan.
Oh yeah I did not vote for Dallas if it makes you feel better.Vikes and PatsAlthough I could see Dallas beating the Vikes in MinnyThey signed Favre...and improved their special teams...and started playing like a team...and the receivers are trying...If the Cards "wipe the floor" with the Vikes the bandwagon will fill up quickly.I refuse to vote on the grounds that it might jinx my team.
Native
Footballguy
A Favre-Brady Super Bowl? I will be watching on mute.
Arch Stanton
Footballguy
SD and NO in the Brees Bowl!!!
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I would submit that the Saints running game is so good because of their passing game, not the other way around, like in the case of the Vikings.Zigg said:
That is flawed logic. The Cardinals thumped the Panthers in Carolina in the playoffs last year, but lost to them at home this year despite Carolina not being nearly as good this year.Anarchy99 said:
Jayrod
Footballguy
I seriously think the Bengals have a shot. That team believes they can beat anybody, has a really good defense and a complete offense. Two fluke fumbles cost them that game against Oakland and they'll learn from it. Indy has some holes and NE really isn't that consistantly good this year. I'll never believe in a Norv Turner coached team, so SD is out for me.
I'm a cointoss on Minnesota or Saints for the NFC. I love the Saints, but dang the Vikes are solid top to bottom.
I'm a cointoss on Minnesota or Saints for the NFC. I love the Saints, but dang the Vikes are solid top to bottom.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Colts - Vikes
EBF
Footballguy
NFC looks like it will be the Vikes or the Saints. I expect these two teams to meet in the NFC title game and I have no clue who will prevail. Both teams look scary. With a gun to my head I'd say Minnesota simply because they have so many factors working in their favor: veteran QB who has been there before, dominant running game, playmaking defense, and a diverse passing game with several guys who can hurt you. The Saints are a little more one-dimensional. If you can find a way to slow down Brees then you can beat them. Defense seems more important in the playoffs, so I guess I like Minnesota's chances.
The AFC is wide open. Indy, NE, Baltimore, Cincy, Pittsburgh, and San Diego all have the talent to make a run. Whoever plays well down the stretch will win the conference. I guess I'll go with the Patriots simply because I can't bet against Belichick, a healthy Brady, and a motivated Moss.
In conclusion:
Pats vs. Vikes for all the marbles.
The AFC is wide open. Indy, NE, Baltimore, Cincy, Pittsburgh, and San Diego all have the talent to make a run. Whoever plays well down the stretch will win the conference. I guess I'll go with the Patriots simply because I can't bet against Belichick, a healthy Brady, and a motivated Moss.
In conclusion:
Pats vs. Vikes for all the marbles.
Tau837
Footballguy
Not sure about this statement.Are the Saints a better playmaking defense? They have 24 sacks, 20 interceptions, 11 forced fumbles, and 12 defensive fumble recoveries. The Vikings have 34 sacks, 7 interceptions, 16 forced fumbles, and 9 defensive fumble recoveries. So the Saints have made more big plays to date... but I suspect a lot of those 20 interceptions have been because teams are forced into passing situations when down big to the Saints... something I doubt will happen to Minnesota if they face each other in the playoffs. I suppose you said the Saints are better because of the word playmaking, but the Vikings have a better defense IMO, having allowed fewer yards and fewer points, and they should have Winfield back by the playoffs.
Are the Saints a more diverse passing game? I assume you said so because of the word diverse. The Saints have 11 players with at least one catch, and 9 players who have caught at least one TD... compared to 12 and 6, respectively for the Vikings. The Vikings have 6 players with at least 25 catches, compared to 4 on the Saints. The Vikings have a better QB rating. This looks very close, and I see no evidence that the Saints are better in this category.
Are the Saints better in terms of a dominant running game? They have better collective numbers on the season to date, no doubt. But the Vikings have the best runner between the two teams.
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Bankerguy
Footballguy
dhockster
Footballguy
Sure I was taking a shot at Dallas. What can I say, it's fun.But I did give Dallas full credit when they beat the Eagles several weeks ago. So typical Eagle's fan? I don't think so.Again, if the Cowboys had a legimate head coach then I think even with playing on the road in the playoffs, they would be a dark horse to go to the superbowl (i.e. they have enough talent on the field). Wade does not get teams ready for big games, and ultimately I think that is why the Cowboys won't win this year. By you not picking the Cowboys, I assume you agree with me.Mustang Man said:LOL always having to take shots at Dallas. Typical Eagle fan.
ATC1
Footballguy
Look at it anyway you like. The Saints and Vikings statistically matchup evenly. I don't know how Winfeild's injury has really hurt the Vikings defense, but since Sedric Ellis has been out for the Saints teams have been able to run the ball better aginst them. Saints were top 5 before the injury. Payton is going to rest his guys as much as possible, but homefeild advantage is going to be very big when it comes down to it. I'm also still ready for Favre to break down at the end of the season. The back end of their schdule is tougher than the front part.
