Why Childress Should be Fired (1 Viewer)

[North]

Last week 1st and goal from the 2 and you call passing plays which result in a sack and penalty.

This week Peterson runs it down to the 5 and then you attempt to pass it in.

Minn fans unite against Childress, if he continues to expect Gus to win him games and puts him in situations where the result of the game depends on his performance, the Vikes will lose.

Gus isn't a QB who can win games for you, his job is to manage the game. When you have a RB like Peterson you don't get cute inside the 5. You run the ball down their throat 4 times, if thats what it takes. And you keep Peterson in the game!

 

[vandyt]

Plenty of reasons to fire Childress, but you losing your fantasy game isnt one of them.

 

[EdwardCat]

As a Minnesota fan, I can't agree moer.

 

[North]

Plenty of reasons to fire Childress, but you losing your fantasy game isnt one of them.

Not that I'm going to lose anything. This team is built on the power running game and when they get inside the 5 they try to be tricky? It's clearly not working.Another reason he should be gone is the talent on this team and the record they presently have, the amount of penalties per game and yardage given up due to penalties (ie the Bears should have just punted but instead they are about to score due to a stupid penalty)

 

[joffer]

i'd keep him for that call alone

 

[Ripleys]

how about for just taking AP out on 3rd downs?

 

[FFdork]

Odd timing for this thread since they're currently up 17-7. I'm not a big believer in Childress, but if they win tonight they're 7-5 and on top of their division. I don't think MN fans will be uniting against him and I don't think he'll be getting fired for now.

If they fall apart and miss the playoffs (which is certainly possible if the Williams wall gets suspended for the rest of the season) he very well could be done after this year.

 

[EdwardCat]

How about for not feeding the ball to AP in the red zone which often ends in a FG?

 

[Ghost Rider]

I am not a fan of Childress at all, but since his decision to bench Jackson and put Frerotte in, the Vikings are 7-3.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I am not a fan of Childress at all, but since his decision to bench Jackson and put Frerotte in, the Vikings are 7-3.

I can just about guarantee that decision was made for him.

 

[Jimmy James]

Vikings fans need to ask Chargers fans (or fans of just about any team with a losing record) about a bad coach. Childress ain't the guy.

ADP owners need to grow up and realize that Childress is not there to win them fantasy football games. That's it.

 

[PJHawkeye]

Educated guess that the OP is an AP owner?

 

[deep vacuum]

I can still see 8-8 winning this sad division. There are still 3 teams with a good chance to win it no matter what the W/L shows after today.

 

[encaitar]

Vikings fans need to ask Chargers fans (or fans of just about any team with a losing record) about a bad coach. Childress ain't the guy. ADP owners need to grow up and realize that Childress is not there to win them fantasy football games. That's it.

Give any other head coach in the league 3 years to work with the talent on this team and then try and say that. Their offense is so unbelievably predictable that it's really astounding they ever gain yards. They lead the league in penalties(always the sign of poor coaching). They're horrible on special teams(another area where coaching is more important than talent). I mean, it's not hard to see how poorly coached they are. The only thing that Childress does right is that the team seems fired up to play no matter what the situation is.

 

[Jimmy James]

What talent is that, precisely? Am I alone in not seeing this prodigious amount of talent Childress has been wasting?

It sounds like more ADP Kool-Aid to me.

 

[ScottyFargo]

What talent is that, precisely? Am I alone in not seeing this prodigious amount of talent Childress has been wasting?It sounds like more ADP Kool-Aid to me.

wtf are you on

 

[Chaka]

I am not a fan of Childress at all, but since his decision to bench Jackson and put Frerotte in, the Vikings are 7-3.

I can just about guarantee that decision was made for him.

You mean up to the point of actually guaranteeing it.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I am not a fan of Childress at all, but since his decision to bench Jackson and put Frerotte in, the Vikings are 7-3.

I can just about guarantee that decision was made for him.

You mean up to the point of actually guaranteeing it.

Well, I wasn't there. I was just expressing my personal degree of certainty.

 

[Jimmy James]

What talent is that, precisely? Am I alone in not seeing this prodigious amount of talent Childress has been wasting?It sounds like more ADP Kool-Aid to me.

wtf are you on

I'll take that personal attack as a sign that you have nothing to add to this discussion and are ceding my point.

 

[North]

What talent is that, precisely? Am I alone in not seeing this prodigious amount of talent Childress has been wasting?It sounds like more ADP Kool-Aid to me.

What talent?One of the best offensive lines in football. More talent on the defensive sside of the ball than any other team.This team is winning dispite Childress. All I'm saying is sooner or later giving the ball to Gus inside the 5 just to mix things up and catch the defense off gaurd will come back to haunt him.Linehan tried the same things with Gus when he was in St. Louis and it worked a couple of times but sooner or later giving the ball to Gus instead of SJAX caught up with him. An indication of what Gus is capable of is last week (1st and goal from the 2). Gus drops back to pass and is chased out of the pocket, instead of throwing the ball away he takes a sack. Now it's 2nd and goal from the 10. They ended up with a field goal instead of a TD, that play calling will eventually hurt them and Minn fans will be up in arms. I'm just saying that Minn fans should already be up in arms.

 

[Jimmy James]

What talent is that, precisely? Am I alone in not seeing this prodigious amount of talent Childress has been wasting?It sounds like more ADP Kool-Aid to me.

What talent?One of the best offensive lines in football.

I'll grant you that. The OL and ADP and CT make for a very good rushing attack. Look at the passing game, though. Tell me that's not a wasteland.

More talent on the defensive sside of the ball than any other team.

Wow. Just wow. It's a nice defense. They're not close to top 5. Given the talent I see there, 7-5 is not unreasonable. I think it's one thing to grouse about certain red zone calls. It's quite another to suggest this team is winning in spite of Childress.

 

[ScottyFargo]

What talent is that, precisely? Am I alone in not seeing this prodigious amount of talent Childress has been wasting?It sounds like more ADP Kool-Aid to me.

wtf are you on

I'll take that personal attack as a sign that you have nothing to add to this discussion and are ceding my point.

I will gladly let you take your moral victory here. The question is not worth discussing as there is no Adrian Peterson Kool Aid, as you implied.

 

[gethugefast1]

http://www.firechilly.com/

http://www.northstarwritersforum.com/showthread.php?t=4475

http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.ph...74598;topicseen

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fire-brad-childress.html

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275990

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/sports-talk/54164...-childress.html

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/FireBradChildress

http://blogs.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?p=2035

http://wordpress.com/tag/fire-childress/

http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chr...7167#ID10517167

http://vikingsragnarok.blogspot.com/2008/0...ns-to-fire.html

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/10/12/vikings...ildress-anyway/

 

[Raider Nation]

Whiny fans of the FIRST PLACE MINNESOTA VIKINGS should be forced to become Raider fans for awhile.

Learn to appreciate what you have.

 

[ADP]

Just give me the damn ball!!

 

[mrgerty]

Just give me the damn ball!!

How about leaving Peterson in the game very late in the fourth quarter with the outcome decided about the end of the third quarter? Very questionable decision in my eyes. I don't see how he gets fired if the Vikes win the division, but if Matt Cassell is a package deal with his O Coordinator it's going to be hard not to sign up for that plan...

 

[encaitar]

Whiny fans of the FIRST PLACE MINNESOTA VIKINGS should be forced to become Raider fans for awhile.

Learn to appreciate what you have.

You're right. The Vikings have the best young RB to enter the league since Barry Sanders and one of the best, if not the best, offensive lines in the entire league. Add to that a top 10 defense that is top 3 at stopping the run and we should be satisfied with sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the wildcard round.

 

[encaitar]

Just give me the damn ball!!

How about leaving Peterson in the game very late in the fourth quarter with the outcome decided about the end of the third quarter? Very questionable decision in my eyes. I don't see how he gets fired if the Vikes win the division, but if Matt Cassell is a package deal with his O Coordinator it's going to be hard not to sign up for that plan...

Or have first and goal from the two with a team built for power running and try and get cute like last week?

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Just give me the damn ball!!

How about leaving Peterson in the game very late in the fourth quarter with the outcome decided about the end of the third quarter? Very questionable decision in my eyes. I don't see how he gets fired if the Vikes win the division, but if Matt Cassell is a package deal with his O Coordinator it's going to be hard not to sign up for that plan...

Or have first and goal from the two with a team built for power running and try and get cute like last week?

But if they try and pound it in and don't make it, Childress should be fired for being so predictable. Fans kill me! Just a side note - not much has been said about the Vikings being 6-2 since McKinnie came back from suspension. All the attention has been on Frerotte, but I think getting McKinnie back has been huge! (Hopefully we don't lose 2 HUGE guys today!)

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The Vikings have an interesting problem. They suck, but just incrementally less than the Packers and the Bears. They look like they are going to make the playoffs and then be in for a one and done once in. This may, however, be enough to save the job of one of, if not the worst, coaches in football. Making the playoffs will hurt their draft choice position, will cause them to have to commit to Frerotte and Childress for another year, and ultimately will set them back several years in their quest to reach the top.

 

[Raider Nation]

Whiny fans of the FIRST PLACE MINNESOTA VIKINGS should be forced to become Raider fans for awhile.

Learn to appreciate what you have.

You're right. The Vikings have the best young RB to enter the league since Barry Sanders and one of the best, if not the best, offensive lines in the entire league. Add to that a top 10 defense that is top 3 at stopping the run and we should be satisfied with sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the wildcard round.

Oh, their fate has already been predetermined. Cool.Now I can go for a hike or do some needlepoint during their first playoff game. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[encaitar]

Whiny fans of the FIRST PLACE MINNESOTA VIKINGS should be forced to become Raider fans for awhile.

Learn to appreciate what you have.

You're right. The Vikings have the best young RB to enter the league since Barry Sanders and one of the best, if not the best, offensive lines in the entire league. Add to that a top 10 defense that is top 3 at stopping the run and we should be satisfied with sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the wildcard round.

Oh, their fate has already been predetermined. Cool.Now I can go for a hike or do some needlepoint during their first playoff game. Thanks for the heads up.

Sorry, but as a fan of this team and watching them every week, it's easy to see they aren't on the level of the Giants, Cowboys, Bucs and some of the other elite NFC teams. I understand it sucks having a team struggle to win 4 games in a year, we've been there. However, I see it as a harder thing to watch a team waste a once in a lifetime talent like ADP with poor coaching and even poorer personnel moves(Chilly deciding TJax is the answer at QB).

 

[Chaka]

Whiny fans of the FIRST PLACE MINNESOTA VIKINGS should be forced to become Raider fans for awhile.

Learn to appreciate what you have.

You're right. The Vikings have the best young RB to enter the league since Barry Sanders and one of the best, if not the best, offensive lines in the entire league. Add to that a top 10 defense that is top 3 at stopping the run and we should be satisfied with sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the wildcard round.

Oh, their fate has already been predetermined. Cool.Now I can go for a hike or do some needlepoint during their first playoff game. Thanks for the heads up.

Sorry, but as a fan of this team and watching them every week, it's easy to see they aren't on the level of the Giants, Cowboys, Bucs and some of the other elite NFC teams. I understand it sucks having a team struggle to win 4 games in a year, we've been there. However, I see it as a harder thing to watch a team waste a once in a lifetime talent like ADP with poor coaching and even poorer personnel moves(Chilly deciding TJax is the answer at QB).

Last season no one thought the Giants were on the level of the Cowboys, Packers & Patriots either.

 

[travdogg]

Sorry, but as a fan of this team and watching them every week, it's easy to see they aren't on the level of the Giants, Cowboys, Bucs and some of the other elite NFC teams. I understand it sucks having a team struggle to win 4 games in a year, we've been there. However, I see it as a harder thing to watch a team waste a once in a lifetime talent like ADP with poor coaching and even poorer personnel moves(Chilly deciding TJax is the answer at QB).

You mean that Bucs team that they were neck and neck with for 55 minutes in Tampa?I can see being disappointed that the passing game isn't better or by an occasional play call, but Vikings fans shouldn't even be in the top-20 for complaining about their coach or their team.

How Peterson is being wasted is a mystery to me. Maybe he's being wasted by having possibly the best o-line in the league?

If anything Peterson is used too much, he's on pace for 350+ carries this year and more if/when they make the playoffs. Childress would be foolish to give him more work and risk burning him out by his 4th year, especially when his backup is a very good RB in Chester Taylor.

I think the Vikes would be wise to use Taylor more often, he's plenty capable, it saves wear and tear on Peterson and it makes him actually earn some of his contract.

I don't think the Vikes are a Super Bowl contender, but I could see them beating a team like Carolina or Atlanta if that's who they were to draw in round one.

Again, I'm not a huge Childress fan, but firing him seems like a major overreaction, especially given the fact the they are probably going to win their divison.

 

[deep vacuum]

Whiny fans of the FIRST PLACE MINNESOTA VIKINGS should be forced to become Raider fans for awhile.

Learn to appreciate what you have.

You're right. The Vikings have the best young RB to enter the league since Barry Sanders and one of the best, if not the best, offensive lines in the entire league. Add to that a top 10 defense that is top 3 at stopping the run and we should be satisfied with sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the wildcard round.

Oh, their fate has already been predetermined. Cool.Now I can go for a hike or do some needlepoint during their first playoff game. Thanks for the heads up.

Sorry, but as a fan of this team and watching them every week, it's easy to see they aren't on the level of the Giants, Cowboys, Bucs and some of the other elite NFC teams. I understand it sucks having a team struggle to win 4 games in a year, we've been there. However, I see it as a harder thing to watch a team waste a once in a lifetime talent like ADP with poor coaching and even poorer personnel moves(Chilly deciding TJax is the answer at QB).

Last season no one thought the Giants were on the level of the Cowboys, Packers & Patriots either.

Talent wise they seem to be almost an elite team. The Vikings are just a Head coach & QB away from being an elite team. If they had both, the NFC could be theirs for years to come just like the Patriots had control of the AFC for so many years. But unfortunately I believe Ditkaless Wonders had it right in his last post.

The Vikings have an interesting problem. They suck, but just incrementally less than the Packers and the Bears. They look like they are going to make the playoffs and then be in for a one and done once in. This may, however, be enough to save the job of one of, if not the worst, coaches in football. Making the playoffs will hurt their draft choice position, will cause them to have to commit to Frerotte and Childress for another year, and ultimately will set them back several years in their quest to reach the top

 

[ScottyFargo]

The Vikings have an interesting problem. They suck, but just incrementally less than the Packers and the Bears. They look like they are going to make the playoffs and then be in for a one and done once in. This may, however, be enough to save the job of one of, if not the worst, coaches in football. Making the playoffs will hurt their draft choice position, will cause them to have to commit to Frerotte and Childress for another year, and ultimately will set them back several years in their quest to reach the top.

Free agents and trading for QB's are not going to be an option for the Vikings? Weird.

 

[mozzy84]

The Vikings have an interesting problem. They suck, but just incrementally less than the Packers and the Bears. They look like they are going to make the playoffs and then be in for a one and done once in. This may, however, be enough to save the job of one of, if not the worst, coaches in football. Making the playoffs will hurt their draft choice position, will cause them to have to commit to Frerotte and Childress for another year, and ultimately will set them back several years in their quest to reach the top.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The Vikings have an interesting problem. They suck, but just incrementally less than the Packers and the Bears. They look like they are going to make the playoffs and then be in for a one and done once in. This may, however, be enough to save the job of one of, if not the worst, coaches in football. Making the playoffs will hurt their draft choice position, will cause them to have to commit to Frerotte and Childress for another year, and ultimately will set them back several years in their quest to reach the top.

Free agents and trading for QB's are not going to be an option for the Vikings? Weird.

Recent history would sem to indicate that they may seek an over the hill retread dreg at Q.B., but will fail to actually meaningfully address the matter. Regardless, Childress could kill the initiative of a Manning or a Brady.

 

[encaitar]

Sorry, but as a fan of this team and watching them every week, it's easy to see they aren't on the level of the Giants, Cowboys, Bucs and some of the other elite NFC teams. I understand it sucks having a team struggle to win 4 games in a year, we've been there. However, I see it as a harder thing to watch a team waste a once in a lifetime talent like ADP with poor coaching and even poorer personnel moves(Chilly deciding TJax is the answer at QB).

You mean that Bucs team that they were neck and neck with for 55 minutes in Tampa?I can see being disappointed that the passing game isn't better or by an occasional play call, but Vikings fans shouldn't even be in the top-20 for complaining about their coach or their team.

How Peterson is being wasted is a mystery to me. Maybe he's being wasted by having possibly the best o-line in the league?

If anything Peterson is used too much, he's on pace for 350+ carries this year and more if/when they make the playoffs. Childress would be foolish to give him more work and risk burning him out by his 4th year, especially when his backup is a very good RB in Chester Taylor.

I think the Vikes would be wise to use Taylor more often, he's plenty capable, it saves wear and tear on Peterson and it makes him actually earn some of his contract.

I don't think the Vikes are a Super Bowl contender, but I could see them beating a team like Carolina or Atlanta if that's who they were to draw in round one.

Again, I'm not a huge Childress fan, but firing him seems like a major overreaction, especially given the fact the they are probably going to win their divison.

Honestly, I can't believe there are people in this world who can't see Childress as the horrible coach he is. Point of note: The Vikings were 9-7 in 2005 which is the last year Mike Tice was the coach. This is with an owner(Red McCombs) who refused to spend on free agents and barely ever spent more than the minimum salary cap.Now, 3 years later the Vikings are hoping to finish with a comparable record(or maybe 10-6 if things fall their way) due to the "genius" of Brad Childress? Never mind that the 2005 squad didn't have Steve Hutchinson, ADP, Jared Allen, Madieu Williams, Chad Greenway, and Chester Taylor(the first three undoubtedly All-Pro players and Greenway a likely Pro Bowler). That team had Mewelde Moore and Michael Bennet as their RBBC.

Childress is not a good coach. No matter which way you look at it. The entire league laughed at Tice's stupidity yet he seemed to accomplish as much with a far inferior team.

 

[encaitar]

The Vikings have an interesting problem. They suck, but just incrementally less than the Packers and the Bears. They look like they are going to make the playoffs and then be in for a one and done once in. This may, however, be enough to save the job of one of, if not the worst, coaches in football. Making the playoffs will hurt their draft choice position, will cause them to have to commit to Frerotte and Childress for another year, and ultimately will set them back several years in their quest to reach the top.

Free agents and trading for QB's are not going to be an option for the Vikings? Weird.

Recent history would sem to indicate that they may seek an over the hill retread dreg at Q.B., but will fail to actually meaningfully address the matter. Regardless, Childress could kill the initiative of a Manning or a Brady.

 

[mozzy84]

Sorry, but as a fan of this team and watching them every week, it's easy to see they aren't on the level of the Giants, Cowboys, Bucs and some of the other elite NFC teams. I understand it sucks having a team struggle to win 4 games in a year, we've been there. However, I see it as a harder thing to watch a team waste a once in a lifetime talent like ADP with poor coaching and even poorer personnel moves(Chilly deciding TJax is the answer at QB).

You mean that Bucs team that they were neck and neck with for 55 minutes in Tampa?I can see being disappointed that the passing game isn't better or by an occasional play call, but Vikings fans shouldn't even be in the top-20 for complaining about their coach or their team.

How Peterson is being wasted is a mystery to me. Maybe he's being wasted by having possibly the best o-line in the league?

If anything Peterson is used too much, he's on pace for 350+ carries this year and more if/when they make the playoffs. Childress would be foolish to give him more work and risk burning him out by his 4th year, especially when his backup is a very good RB in Chester Taylor.

I think the Vikes would be wise to use Taylor more often, he's plenty capable, it saves wear and tear on Peterson and it makes him actually earn some of his contract.

I don't think the Vikes are a Super Bowl contender, but I could see them beating a team like Carolina or Atlanta if that's who they were to draw in round one.

Again, I'm not a huge Childress fan, but firing him seems like a major overreaction, especially given the fact the they are probably going to win their divison.

Honestly, I can't believe there are people in this world who can't see Childress as the horrible coach he is. Point of note: The Vikings were 9-7 in 2005 which is the last year Mike Tice was the coach. This is with an owner(Red McCombs) who refused to spend on free agents and barely ever spent more than the minimum salary cap.Now, 3 years later the Vikings are hoping to finish with a comparable record(or maybe 10-6 if things fall their way) due to the "genius" of Brad Childress? Never mind that the 2005 squad didn't have Steve Hutchinson, ADP, Jared Allen, Madieu Williams, Chad Greenway, and Chester Taylor(the first three undoubtedly All-Pro players and Greenway a likely Pro Bowler). That team had Mewelde Moore and Michael Bennet as their RBBC.

Childress is not a good coach. No matter which way you look at it. The entire league laughed at Tice's stupidity yet he seemed to accomplish as much with a far inferior team.

you did fail to mention culpepper was really really good (and moss) a couple of those tice years. Childress biggest mistake was hitching his ride to jackson and keeping brad johnson that first year, they both totally limit what you can do on offense. Good qb play makes all coaches look good.

 

[encaitar]

Sorry, but as a fan of this team and watching them every week, it's easy to see they aren't on the level of the Giants, Cowboys, Bucs and some of the other elite NFC teams. I understand it sucks having a team struggle to win 4 games in a year, we've been there. However, I see it as a harder thing to watch a team waste a once in a lifetime talent like ADP with poor coaching and even poorer personnel moves(Chilly deciding TJax is the answer at QB).

You mean that Bucs team that they were neck and neck with for 55 minutes in Tampa?I can see being disappointed that the passing game isn't better or by an occasional play call, but Vikings fans shouldn't even be in the top-20 for complaining about their coach or their team.

How Peterson is being wasted is a mystery to me. Maybe he's being wasted by having possibly the best o-line in the league?

If anything Peterson is used too much, he's on pace for 350+ carries this year and more if/when they make the playoffs. Childress would be foolish to give him more work and risk burning him out by his 4th year, especially when his backup is a very good RB in Chester Taylor.

I think the Vikes would be wise to use Taylor more often, he's plenty capable, it saves wear and tear on Peterson and it makes him actually earn some of his contract.

I don't think the Vikes are a Super Bowl contender, but I could see them beating a team like Carolina or Atlanta if that's who they were to draw in round one.

Again, I'm not a huge Childress fan, but firing him seems like a major overreaction, especially given the fact the they are probably going to win their divison.

Honestly, I can't believe there are people in this world who can't see Childress as the horrible coach he is. Point of note: The Vikings were 9-7 in 2005 which is the last year Mike Tice was the coach. This is with an owner(Red McCombs) who refused to spend on free agents and barely ever spent more than the minimum salary cap.Now, 3 years later the Vikings are hoping to finish with a comparable record(or maybe 10-6 if things fall their way) due to the "genius" of Brad Childress? Never mind that the 2005 squad didn't have Steve Hutchinson, ADP, Jared Allen, Madieu Williams, Chad Greenway, and Chester Taylor(the first three undoubtedly All-Pro players and Greenway a likely Pro Bowler). That team had Mewelde Moore and Michael Bennet as their RBBC.

Childress is not a good coach. No matter which way you look at it. The entire league laughed at Tice's stupidity yet he seemed to accomplish as much with a far inferior team.

you did fail to mention culpepper was really really good (and moss) a couple of those tice years. Childress biggest mistake was hitching his ride to jackson and keeping brad johnson that first year, they both totally limit what you can do on offense. Good qb play makes all coaches look good.

Well, Moss was traded before the 2005 season and Culpepper was hurt when the Vikings were 2-5. Brad Johnson was the starting QB that led them to the 9-7 record. Not to mention it was Childress' decision to let Culpepper go and he hasn't ever looked good without Moss anyway.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Childress sucks. Pretty badly. Last year the Vikes won in spite of Childress and Jackson, it's pretty close to the same thing year, though I think he has improved some. His playcalling is bad, he was wrong to head into the year on Tarvaris Jackson's back. He won't be fired either way, if the Vikings win the division and make it into the playoffs or lose, the Vikings simply have to pray that they get/can afford a QB upgrade for next year and that Childress grows a brain.

Meanwhile, the Vikes D and running game is looking more and more formidable, and games where Frerotte throws under 3 INT's they can keep it under their control.

Chillyball. Ugh.

 

[mozzy84]

Sorry, but as a fan of this team and watching them every week, it's easy to see they aren't on the level of the Giants, Cowboys, Bucs and some of the other elite NFC teams. I understand it sucks having a team struggle to win 4 games in a year, we've been there. However, I see it as a harder thing to watch a team waste a once in a lifetime talent like ADP with poor coaching and even poorer personnel moves(Chilly deciding TJax is the answer at QB).

You mean that Bucs team that they were neck and neck with for 55 minutes in Tampa?I can see being disappointed that the passing game isn't better or by an occasional play call, but Vikings fans shouldn't even be in the top-20 for complaining about their coach or their team.

How Peterson is being wasted is a mystery to me. Maybe he's being wasted by having possibly the best o-line in the league?

If anything Peterson is used too much, he's on pace for 350+ carries this year and more if/when they make the playoffs. Childress would be foolish to give him more work and risk burning him out by his 4th year, especially when his backup is a very good RB in Chester Taylor.

I think the Vikes would be wise to use Taylor more often, he's plenty capable, it saves wear and tear on Peterson and it makes him actually earn some of his contract.

I don't think the Vikes are a Super Bowl contender, but I could see them beating a team like Carolina or Atlanta if that's who they were to draw in round one.

Again, I'm not a huge Childress fan, but firing him seems like a major overreaction, especially given the fact the they are probably going to win their divison.

Honestly, I can't believe there are people in this world who can't see Childress as the horrible coach he is. Point of note: The Vikings were 9-7 in 2005 which is the last year Mike Tice was the coach. This is with an owner(Red McCombs) who refused to spend on free agents and barely ever spent more than the minimum salary cap.Now, 3 years later the Vikings are hoping to finish with a comparable record(or maybe 10-6 if things fall their way) due to the "genius" of Brad Childress? Never mind that the 2005 squad didn't have Steve Hutchinson, ADP, Jared Allen, Madieu Williams, Chad Greenway, and Chester Taylor(the first three undoubtedly All-Pro players and Greenway a likely Pro Bowler). That team had Mewelde Moore and Michael Bennet as their RBBC.

Childress is not a good coach. No matter which way you look at it. The entire league laughed at Tice's stupidity yet he seemed to accomplish as much with a far inferior team.

you did fail to mention culpepper was really really good (and moss) a couple of those tice years. Childress biggest mistake was hitching his ride to jackson and keeping brad johnson that first year, they both totally limit what you can do on offense. Good qb play makes all coaches look good.

Well, Moss was traded before the 2005 season and Culpepper was hurt when the Vikings were 2-5. Brad Johnson was the starting QB that led them to the 9-7 record. Not to mention it was Childress' decision to let Culpepper go and he hasn't ever looked good without Moss anyway.

one of the few good moves he's made regarding qb's. (ok the only good move)

 

[Jimmy James]

Well, Moss was traded before the 2005 season and Culpepper was hurt when the Vikings were 2-5. Brad Johnson was the starting QB that led them to the 9-7 record. Not to mention it was Childress' decision to let Culpepper go and he hasn't ever looked good without Moss anyway.

Oh, I can just imagine the crap you folks would be giving Childress if he had kept Culpepper. As to this Tice stuff, Tice hung himself with stupidity off the field more than anything else. Super Bowl ticket scalping much?The man rolled the dice with Jackson and lost. That's the only serious issue I see with Childress. I damned sure would have rather had him than Saban or Cameron.

 

[-jb-]

The man rolled the dice with Jackson and lost. That's the only serious issue I see with Childress. I damned sure would have rather had him than Saban or Cameron.

You're setting the bar at two men who are no longer head coaches.Honestly speaking, outside of Tom Cable, I would take any one of the 30 other coaches over Childress. That includes Herm and Marvin. And I don't fault Cable. He's vastly under-qualified to be a HC, but no one in their right mind (including Childress) would take that job...so he gets a pass.

 

[Jimmy James]

The man rolled the dice with Jackson and lost. That's the only serious issue I see with Childress. I damned sure would have rather had him than Saban or Cameron.

You're setting the bar at two men who are no longer head coaches.Honestly speaking, outside of Tom Cable, I would take any one of the 30 other coaches over Childress. That includes Herm and Marvin. And I don't fault Cable. He's vastly under-qualified to be a HC, but no one in their right mind (including Childress) would take that job...so he gets a pass.

I'm setting the bar at the most recent two failures for my favorite team. I don't compare him to the current guy because the current guy is less than a season in so far.I find the idea that anybody would take Norv over Childress to be absurd. You can't mean it. You just can't. I'm not going coach by coach at this point, but Norv is just a no brainer.

 

[Chaka]

The man rolled the dice with Jackson and lost. That's the only serious issue I see with Childress. I damned sure would have rather had him than Saban or Cameron.

You're setting the bar at two men who are no longer head coaches.Honestly speaking, outside of Tom Cable, I would take any one of the 30 other coaches over Childress. That includes Herm and Marvin. And I don't fault Cable. He's vastly under-qualified to be a HC, but no one in their right mind (including Childress) would take that job...so he gets a pass.

I'm setting the bar at the most recent two failures for my favorite team. I don't compare him to the current guy because the current guy is less than a season in so far.I find the idea that anybody would take Norv over Childress to be absurd. You can't mean it. You just can't. I'm not going coach by coach at this point, but Norv is just a no brainer.

Yes it's true, Norv Turner has no brain.

 

[North]

Have to bump this. 10 minutes left in the game and down by 2 td's and you call 4 straight passing plays?? Childress's inability to misuse the most talented person on his team is mind boggling to me. Putting the game in Jacksons hands without even giving Peterson a touch is crazy. If you keep giving him the ball he WILL break one.

 

[Max Power]

I figured this would be a "why start Jackson?" bump