Why does everyone assume that certain RB's will get hurt? (1 Viewer)

[Bristol]

All I hear is that Dillon will get hurt or Foster will get hurt and that is the basis of why people are putting more stock into players like Morency and Williams. I don't get it. Yes, they have been injury risks in the past, but that does not automatically make them injury risks in the future.

That is foolish reasoning in my opinion.

I would be more than happy to draft those players and watch as you guys sweat it out waiting for them to get hurt so your player will get his shot.

While you are at it, why don't you make your whole running back stable nothing but backups like Turner, Morris, Bennett, etc. Tomlinson, LJ, and Alexander may get hurt too, so why stop at Williams and Morency?

 

[Moniker]

Foster will get hurt

Bank on it.

 

[Bristol]

Foster will get hurt

Bank on it.

What makes you so sure? Are you Karnac? You don't know what is going to happen.

 

[texasheat]

I couldnt agree more... I dont factor in injuries unless a guy is hurt the day that I am drafting. ANY player can go out on the next play and destroy their knee, anybody.

 

[Interseptopus]

Here's my reasoning... Foster's = Austrailian for beer. Too much beer = stumble. stumbing = getting hurt...

 

[massraider]

Foster will get hurt

Bank on it.

Ha ha. I was reading the title, and thought, "yeah, that's silly that people think they can predict that.............well, except for Foster."Seriously, it's a mortal lock.

 

[zenzephyros]

Although I can understand why people always assume that those guys (especially Foster) will get hurt, I have trouble with how high DeAngelo Williams and Lawrnece Maroney are being selected. Some people take them as their RB3.... which is fantasy insanity. You should be able to draft Foster in the 4th/5th (in 10 team draft) and then handcuff him with DeAngelo around round 9. Unfortunately, completely false news about a RBBC in Carolina way overinflates DeAngelo's value up into round 6/7 (maybe earlier). On some ridiculous sites, they have DeAngelo ranked higher than Foster. Maroney should be pushed even farther down the draftboard due to Kevin Faulk's presence. Face it.... people LOVE rookie running backs no matter how they run face first into the wall every single year.

 

[Interseptopus]

No but in all seriousness, some RBs are just injury prone. Fred Taylor- chances of him being injured are greater than LT. But you say any RB can get hurt on any given day. Yes, this is true. One bad hit and your invincible player is now on the IR... but if there's one thing I learned through out my schooling for physical therapy, it's some people are prone to injuries. Be it joint-angles, muscle flexibility, flat footedness, genes, proprioception (knowing where your body is without looking at it, such as your arms, legs, etc). Some people are just prone to getting hurt.

Take Foster, he has yet to complete a full 16 game season when he was "the man." His second season he was given the load, but he only made it through 4 games. As a 3rd down back or whatever he played his first year in the league and last year, he's more effective. It keeps him healthy.

For Dillon, the last 3 seasons he has failed to stay healthy for all 16 games. Be it his age is catching up to him, his mileage, whatever. Bottom line is that trends happen for a reason.

There are definately more players in the NFL that you can predict will have injury troubles.

You think that Brett Favre has started 250+ games consecutively because he's lucky? No. It's knowing how to protect your body take a hit (going with the hit instead of against it). It's knowing how to condition your body to prepare for the beating it will take. It's having good proprioception. There's more to it than just luck

 

[OneEastRiver]

All I hear is that Dillon will get hurt or Foster will get hurt and that is the basis of why people are putting more stock into players like Morency and Williams. I don't get it. Yes, they have been injury risks in the past, but that does not automatically make them injury risks in the future.

That is foolish reasoning in my opinion.

I will guarantee that Dominick Davis does not play 16 regular season games this year. I'll say it again - Guarantee.I find it hard to believe that any knowledgable fan would think otherwise.

There will be value in DDs backup, whoever that may be.

 

[psychobillies]

Foster will get hurt

Bank on it.

What makes you so sure? Are you Karnac? You don't know what is going to happen.

You make a good point, but come on. How can you ignore D Fosters injury history? I've never seen anything like it. Is it possible that he stays healthy all year and puts up good numbers? Sure, Fred Taylor did it a couple years ago, but you have to admit drafting Foster is a MUCH greater risk because of inury than drafting Shaun Alexander regardless of production.

 

[texasheat]

Foster will get hurt

Bank on it.

What makes you so sure? Are you Karnac? You don't know what is going to happen.

You make a good point, but come on. How can you ignore D Fosters injury history? I've never seen anything like it. Is it possible that he stays healthy all year and puts up good numbers? Sure, Fred Taylor did it a couple years ago, but you have to admit drafting Foster is a MUCH greater risk because of inury than drafting Shaun Alexander regardless of production.

Ok thats a bold statement... Ever heard of Fred Taylor? I'm sure you passed him up in '02 &'03 b/c he was a lock to get hurt right? Foster played in 15 games last year... In his 4th season, 2nd as the feature, most guys are too hard on him.

 

[Moniker]

Foster will get hurt

Bank on it.

What makes you so sure? Are you Karnac? You don't know what is going to happen.

You make a good point, but come on. How can you ignore D Fosters injury history? I've never seen anything like it. Is it possible that he stays healthy all year and puts up good numbers? Sure, Fred Taylor did it a couple years ago, but you have to admit drafting Foster is a MUCH greater risk because of inury than drafting Shaun Alexander regardless of production.

Ok thats a bold statement... Ever heard of Fred Taylor? I'm sure you passed him up in '02 &'03 b/c he was a lock to get hurt right? Foster played in 15 games last year... In his 4th season, 2nd as the feature, most guys are too hard on him.

15 games last year, 4 in 2004, 14 in 2003 and 0 in 2002.Looks like a case can be made for the old even/odd year curse ala Eric Moulds...

 

[GDogg]

No but in all seriousness, some RBs are just injury prone. Fred Taylor- chances of him being injured are greater than LT. But you say any RB can get hurt on any given day. Yes, this is true. One bad hit and your invincible player is now on the IR... but if there's one thing I learned through out my schooling for physical therapy, it's some people are prone to injuries. Be it joint-angles, muscle flexibility, flat footedness, genes, proprioception (knowing where your body is without looking at it, such as your arms, legs, etc). Some people are just prone to getting hurt. Take Foster, he has yet to complete a full 16 game season when he was "the man." His second season he was given the load, but he only made it through 4 games. As a 3rd down back or whatever he played his first year in the league and last year, he's more effective. It keeps him healthy. For Dillon, the last 3 seasons he has failed to stay healthy for all 16 games. Be it his age is catching up to him, his mileage, whatever. Bottom line is that trends happen for a reason. There are definately more players in the NFL that you can predict will have injury troubles. You think that Brett Favre has started 250+ games consecutively because he's lucky? No. It's knowing how to protect your body take a hit (going with the hit instead of against it). It's knowing how to condition your body to prepare for the beating it will take. It's having good proprioception. There's more to it than just luck

The problem with this thinking, though, with regard to Foster is that he hasn't had soft tissue injuries. He's breaking bones. Those are generally "freak" injuries. These are not the type that make you more susceptible to injury. He broke his foot last year. Explain to me how Favre would prevent that. He broke his collar bone on a tackle the previous season. WWFD (what would favre do?). We'll see what happens, but I agree that Foster is great value in the 4th/5th round.

 

[Interseptopus]

No but in all seriousness, some RBs are just injury prone. Fred Taylor- chances of him being injured are greater than LT. But you say any RB can get hurt on any given day. Yes, this is true. One bad hit and your invincible player is now on the IR... but if there's one thing I learned through out my schooling for physical therapy, it's some people are prone to injuries. Be it joint-angles, muscle flexibility, flat footedness, genes, proprioception (knowing where your body is without looking at it, such as your arms, legs, etc). Some people are just prone to getting hurt. Take Foster, he has yet to complete a full 16 game season when he was "the man." His second season he was given the load, but he only made it through 4 games. As a 3rd down back or whatever he played his first year in the league and last year, he's more effective. It keeps him healthy. For Dillon, the last 3 seasons he has failed to stay healthy for all 16 games. Be it his age is catching up to him, his mileage, whatever. Bottom line is that trends happen for a reason. There are definately more players in the NFL that you can predict will have injury troubles. You think that Brett Favre has started 250+ games consecutively because he's lucky? No. It's knowing how to protect your body take a hit (going with the hit instead of against it). It's knowing how to condition your body to prepare for the beating it will take. It's having good proprioception. There's more to it than just luck

The problem with this thinking, though, with regard to Foster is that he hasn't had soft tissue injuries. He's breaking bones. Those are generally "freak" injuries. These are not the type that make you more susceptible to injury. He broke his foot last year. Explain to me how Favre would prevent that. He broke his collar bone on a tackle the previous season. WWFD (what would favre do?). We'll see what happens, but I agree that Foster is great value in the 4th/5th round.

Favre has suffered "freak" injuries. He broke his thumb, suffered a bad knee injury... the difference between him and others is that Favre knows how to take a hit. Someone roles into your knee, he has the ability to go with that hit to minimize the injury. That's the difference to having a little knee sprain to being out for the season with something torn. That goes the same for a broken leg- it's knowing where your body is and being able to prevent those injuries from being severe. Also, one can make the argument that Foster does not train properly to increase his bone mineral density, thus resulting in weaker bones than some other people. There are ways to strength train to maximize the strength improvement of your bones. Another reason why some people break bones easier than others. Thanks for reminding me of that.Foster is good value as a RB3. That's all.

 

[psychobillies]

Foster will get hurt

Bank on it.

What makes you so sure? Are you Karnac? You don't know what is going to happen.

You make a good point, but come on. How can you ignore D Fosters injury history? I've never seen anything like it. Is it possible that he stays healthy all year and puts up good numbers? Sure, Fred Taylor did it a couple years ago, but you have to admit drafting Foster is a MUCH greater risk because of inury than drafting Shaun Alexander regardless of production.

Ok thats a bold statement... Ever heard of Fred Taylor? I'm sure you passed him up in '02 &'03 b/c he was a lock to get hurt right? Foster played in 15 games last year... In his 4th season, 2nd as the feature, most guys are too hard on him.

You'd be amazed at how much more you could learn if you read an entire post. But you're right. Fred Taylor has completely dispelled the myth that he is a back that gets hurt more than other backs. Maybe you'd love to have Taylor and Foster as your 2nd and 3rd RB, but if you can't see the risk that comes with that, then .

 

[mbuehner]

How about the guys that are a little banged up in training camp and sitting out like veterans often do? Westbrook dropped 10 slots with his strained foot (not exactly a blown ACL now is it?) after looking like the next coming of Marshall Faulk in his preseason game.

 

[GDogg]

No but in all seriousness, some RBs are just injury prone. Fred Taylor- chances of him being injured are greater than LT. But you say any RB can get hurt on any given day. Yes, this is true. One bad hit and your invincible player is now on the IR... but if there's one thing I learned through out my schooling for physical therapy, it's some people are prone to injuries. Be it joint-angles, muscle flexibility, flat footedness, genes, proprioception (knowing where your body is without looking at it, such as your arms, legs, etc). Some people are just prone to getting hurt. Take Foster, he has yet to complete a full 16 game season when he was "the man." His second season he was given the load, but he only made it through 4 games. As a 3rd down back or whatever he played his first year in the league and last year, he's more effective. It keeps him healthy. For Dillon, the last 3 seasons he has failed to stay healthy for all 16 games. Be it his age is catching up to him, his mileage, whatever. Bottom line is that trends happen for a reason. There are definately more players in the NFL that you can predict will have injury troubles. You think that Brett Favre has started 250+ games consecutively because he's lucky? No. It's knowing how to protect your body take a hit (going with the hit instead of against it). It's knowing how to condition your body to prepare for the beating it will take. It's having good proprioception. There's more to it than just luck

The problem with this thinking, though, with regard to Foster is that he hasn't had soft tissue injuries. He's breaking bones. Those are generally "freak" injuries. These are not the type that make you more susceptible to injury. He broke his foot last year. Explain to me how Favre would prevent that. He broke his collar bone on a tackle the previous season. WWFD (what would favre do?). We'll see what happens, but I agree that Foster is great value in the 4th/5th round.

Favre has suffered "freak" injuries. He broke his thumb, suffered a bad knee injury... the difference between him and others is that Favre knows how to take a hit. Someone roles into your knee, he has the ability to go with that hit to minimize the injury. That's the difference to having a little knee sprain to being out for the season with something torn. That goes the same for a broken leg- it's knowing where your body is and being able to prevent those injuries from being severe. Also, one can make the argument that Foster does not train properly to increase his bone mineral density, thus resulting in weaker bones than some other people. There are ways to strength train to maximize the strength improvement of your bones. Another reason why some people break bones easier than others. Thanks for reminding me of that.Foster is good value as a RB3. That's all.

You're welcome.I agree. I doubt he has worked on his bone mineral density. I'd hope that after the past two seasons, though, he'd work very hard on that. I don't know that he has, though.However, I still think your Favre example doesn't work here. DeShaun broke his foot in his cleat on a tackle. This is not the same as minimizing a tear or not having your leg in an awkward spot to break it. He was running and got tackled and it broke. I think you hit the mark in your second paragraph that his bone density isn't enough (he's also broken a bone in his hand at UCLA). I just don't think Favre or anyone else is avoiding a broken foot in that situation, assuming they have Foster's foot.Same thing goes with the collarbone. I broke my collarbone and it was on a rather normal tackle. The dude tackled me on the side and wrapped me up so I had nowhere to go down, but on my shoulder...snap! You might argue that Favre would not have allowed himself to get wrapped up on the side so that he goes down on his shoulder, but Chuck Norris might not either. It's a freak occurrence and the same thing occurred to Foster's shoulder.Let's hope that Foster has worked on his bone density to avoid further "freak" occurrences. I'd take him as my RB3 for sure in the 4th/5th.

 

[Interseptopus]

However, I still think your Favre example doesn't work here. DeShaun broke his foot in his cleat on a tackle. This is not the same as minimizing a tear or not having your leg in an awkward spot to break it. He was running and got tackled and it broke. I think you hit the mark in your second paragraph that his bone density isn't enough (he's also broken a bone in his hand at UCLA). I just don't think Favre or anyone else is avoiding a broken foot in that situation, assuming they have Foster's foot.Same thing goes with the collarbone. I broke my collarbone and it was on a rather normal tackle. The dude tackled me on the side and wrapped me up so I had nowhere to go down, but on my shoulder...snap! You might argue that Favre would not have allowed himself to get wrapped up on the side so that he goes down on his shoulder, but Chuck Norris might not either. It's a freak occurrence and the same thing occurred to Foster's shoulder.

I'm not saying Favre is superman. God forbid the Favre bashers get wind of this thread and hijack it. I'm saying certian players know how to keep themselves healthy. In Foster's broken foot case- another player may just be better at not putting their foot in harm's way. I am not familiar with how Foster broke his foot, but I am assuming he was tackled and someone stepped on his foot? If that's the case, knowing where your body is in that instance is huge. Knowing that you're going to be hit, so to keep all of your limbs out of harms way, yes even your foot. In your instance, if you saw the guy coming, you could easily brace yourself for the coming tackle. Go with the hit, not against it. There are ways to avoid injury.I can agree that hits that come out of nowhere (Warren Sapp on Chad Clifton comes to mind for me, cheap shot...) can catch a person off guard and they just can't avoid an injury. But, the smart player will ALWAYS be on the look for someone, always watching out for those blind hits. I still think my Fosters = Australian for beer is enough reasoning to just end this entire thread

 

[WisWolvrns]

The question though is how production will the back be when they are healthy? If they are scoring in bunches and then get hurt, that works just fine. Since then you dig into your depth and start the next guy in line. The injuries that are worse are the questionable guys for weeks on end. With some weeks they play and produce and others you find out they were benched or they tweak their injury early in the 1st quarter and you give a fat donut under their score column. Those are the types of injuries which can kill a fantasy season...

I would rather just have the guy be hurt and out for the season or X number of games and know I should just start another player in his spot. Then play that coach-speak guessing game on who to start with partially hurt guys... That is another reason why pre-season injury guys raise red flags for me...

 

[shredhead]

Here's my reasoning... Foster's = Austrailian for beer. Too much beer = stumble. stumbing = getting hurt...

I agree! End of argument! And I was gonna argue the other side until I read this. Can't argue with beer logic.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

The only RB you can count on to never get hurt is Rudi Johnson. The guy is immortal and will be used as a Mack truck after his football career is over 40 years from now.

 

[jazz12pg]

The same reason people think LJ, LT and SA are going to get monster stats...

You could pose the same question about why someone would assume LJ is going to outscore Parker or Droughns. They all have two legs and have 5 guys blocking for them, what makes it more likely one does better than another? Talent, past history, etc.

What makes it more likely one gets hurt than another? Injury prone, past history, etc.

 

[Pedro Cerrano Fan]

All I hear is that Dillon will get hurt or Foster will get hurt and that is the basis of why people are putting more stock into players like Morency and Williams. I don't get it. Yes, they have been injury risks in the past, but that does not automatically make them injury risks in the future. That is foolish reasoning in my opinion.I would be more than happy to draft those players and watch as you guys sweat it out waiting for them to get hurt so your player will get his shot.While you are at it, why don't you make your whole running back stable nothing but backups like Turner, Morris, Bennett, etc. Tomlinson, LJ, and Alexander may get hurt too, so why stop at Williams and Morency?

I think people think Foster wil get hurt for the same reason they think the sun will rise tomorrow morning. It's happend so damned often, it's bound to happen again - and soon.

 

[L_O_D]

Bury your head in the sand if you must. To you I present:

Fred Taylor

Westy

Vick (as if it mattered)

 

[David Yudkin]

Bury your head in the sand if you must. To you I present:Fred TaylorWestyVick (as if it mattered)

I'll give you Taylor and Westbrook, but Vick has essentially had one serious injury and nothing else major. I agree that he is riskier than many other QB, but he's played in 15 games in his 3 other yers as a full time starter. By comparison, over the past 3 years only 9 QB have played in at least 45 games.

 

[Michael Brown]

If there wasn't a good chance guys like Dillon, Foster and Taylor were going to miss time this year, then their real-life teams would've never spent high picks on D-Williams, Maroney, and Jones-Drew, right? If the guy's own team is worried about how he'll hold up, that's good enough for me to give pause.

 

[Bristol]

If there wasn't a good chance guys like Dillon, Foster and Taylor were going to miss time this year, then their real-life teams would've never spent high picks on D-Williams, Maroney, and Jones-Drew, right? If the guy's own team is worried about how he'll hold up, that's good enough for me to give pause.

In Dillon's case, it's more likely because he is getting older. Not just because he is an injury risk.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I'll give you Taylor and Westbrook, but Vick has essentially had one serious injury and nothing else major. I agree that he is riskier than many other QB, but he's played in 15 games in his 3 other yers as a full time starter. By comparison, over the past 3 years only 9 QB have played in at least 45 games.

I don't even think I'd give you Westbrook.2002: 15 games played2003: 15 games played 2004: 13 games played (2 were coaches decisions)2005: 12 games playedSo he missed 3 games from 2002-2004 due to injury and 4 games last year. McNabb on the other hand....

 

[cr8f]

I don't assume they will get hurt. I assume the chances they'll get hurt far outweigh other guys that don't. Drafting a guy like that means you have to also draft their backup or risk losing them completely. If you get them in late rounds the risk is worth the potential reward.

Frankly I'd rather not take the risk. It's like dealing with RBBC, you never know any given week if the guy will finish the game.

I was knocked out of the playoffs by 2 points last year when Mike Anderson went down. It can happen to anyone even an ex-marine, but with some players the risk is greater.

 

[Bristol]

I don't assume they will get hurt. I assume the chances they'll get hurt far outweigh other guys that don't. Drafting a guy like that means you have to also draft their backup or risk losing them completely. If you get them in late rounds the risk is worth the potential reward.Frankly I'd rather not take the risk. It's like dealing with RBBC, you never know any given week if the guy will finish the game.I was knocked out of the playoffs by 2 points last year when Mike Anderson went down. It can happen to anyone even an ex-marine, but with some players the risk is greater.

I would agree with that line of thinking, but a lot of people on this board are syaing things like "Foster will be hurt by week three and then Williams will be taking over". They are saying the same thing about Dillon. It's ridiculous! No one can predict when, where or how a player will get hurt, so picking a plyer based on that reasoning makes NO SENSE!You should definitely take the players history into consideration, but it should not be the only reason why you pass on him or expect his backup take his place.That was my point.

 

[cr8f]

I don't assume they will get hurt. I assume the chances they'll get hurt far outweigh other guys that don't. Drafting a guy like that means you have to also draft their backup or risk losing them completely. If you get them in late rounds the risk is worth the potential reward.Frankly I'd rather not take the risk. It's like dealing with RBBC, you never know any given week if the guy will finish the game.I was knocked out of the playoffs by 2 points last year when Mike Anderson went down. It can happen to anyone even an ex-marine, but with some players the risk is greater.

I would agree with that line of thinking, but a lot of people on this board are syaing things like "Foster will be hurt by week three and then Williams will be taking over". They are saying the same thing about Dillon. It's ridiculous! No one can predict when, where or how a player will get hurt, so picking a plyer based on that reasoning makes NO SENSE!You should definitely take the players history into consideration, but it should not be the only reason why you pass on him or expect his backup take his place.That was my point.

That's dumb. Saying he definitely be hurt. If you get him late enough he's worth the risk. Rookie RB's taking over with blocking assignments and other duties makes little sense. In Tampa and Miami last year there was no real competition, but in Carolina Wiliams doesn't even practice with the first team that much.

 

[GDogg]

If there wasn't a good chance guys like Dillon, Foster and Taylor were going to miss time this year, then their real-life teams would've never spent high picks on D-Williams, Maroney, and Jones-Drew, right? If the guy's own team is worried about how he'll hold up, that's good enough for me to give pause.

I actually read an article on Carolina's situation saying that drafting Williams was more about Shelton being terrible than about Foster. Shelton might not make the team.

 

[ziggy60]

Well one thing I learned as a parent is the importance of calcium for stronger bones. I remember a year or 2 ago I think it was some injured viking who told reporters that his doctor suggested to drink more milk.

so maybe Injury prone = low calcium?

 

[tangfoot]

Here's my reasoning... Foster's = Austrailian for beer. Too much beer = stumble. stumbing = getting hurt...

Hooray Beer!

 

[Da Guru]

I think LT goes down this year for sure! I have grabbed Turner late in two leagues.

Last year he had some chinks in the armour that 350 touches a year give you.

 

[Tom Servo]

Here's my reasoning... Foster's = Austrailian for beer. Too much beer = stumble. stumbing = getting hurt...

Hooray Beer!

That's Red Stripe. We're talking Fosters here. TIA.

 

[FatRader]

In Dillon's case, it's more likely because he is getting older. Not just because he is an injury risk.

It's also because Maroney is so talented he may siphon off some of Dillon's carries even if Dillion is 100%. (Same could said about Williams). With Dillon approaching 32 years of age and a very talented back in Maroney, Belichick will have no problem switching things up and letting Maroney tote the rock for a series or two. The big fantasy question is just how many of Dillon's carries will Maroney get? Depending on how you answer this question, I could see Maroney as a viable #3 fantasy RB.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

All I hear is that Dillon will get hurt or Foster will get hurt and that is the basis of why people are putting more stock into players like Morency and Williams. I don't get it. Yes, they have been injury risks in the past, but that does not automatically make them injury risks in the future.

That is foolish reasoning in my opinion.

I would be more than happy to draft those players and watch as you guys sweat it out waiting for them to get hurt so your player will get his shot.

While you are at it, why don't you make your whole running back stable nothing but backups like Turner, Morris, Bennett, etc. Tomlinson, LJ, and Alexander may get hurt too, so why stop at Williams and Morency?

LT and Alexander have scored 15+ TDs in the past, but that does not automatically mean they will score 15+ TDs in the future. Nothing is automatic in fantasy football. All we have to go on are what we see, and trends. Yes, injuries are difficult to predict, but when it happens 4 times in a row that is a trend just like scoring 15+ TDs 4 times in a row is a trend.You would be more than happy to draft hose players and let other people sweat it out for the backups? What the hell kind of a point is that? It's not like people are drafting DeAngelo ahead of Foster, everyone would love to have the starter but that doesn't change the value of the backup later on. Your whole post is offbeat and missing the point entirely. DeAngelo is more valuable than other backups because of the guy in front of him, no one is claiming he is more valuable than the guy that is in front of him.

And what the heck is that last statement in your post supposed to mean? Seriously, even if you wanted to argue this point your post is lacking in any substance or merit whatsoever, you're just spitting out random names. You're looking at things with an entirely too simplistic view, and fantasy football requires more than that.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Kind of a goofy thread. It's all about risk. DFoster = MASSIVE INJURY RISK. This is a brutal game and some guys can't consistently stay healthy through the pounding. Enough said.

The only RB you can count on to never get hurt is Rudi Johnson. The guy is immortal and will be used as a Mack truck after his football career is over 40 years from now.

So much word. I've been sitting on Chris Perry for three years now in a dynasty. Dum de dum.

 

[Slider]

I don't assume Foster will get hurt but when a team takes a RB in the 1st round Foster's backup immediately becomes way more valuable. I think a coach will pull the plug faster on a RB with an injury history if he gets hurt and the backup shines. You know if LT, SA and the like get hurt they'll come back eventually. If Foster gets hurt it's probably over in Carolina.

 

[simey]

Take Foster, he has yet to complete a full 16 game season when he was "the man." His second season he was given the load, but he only made it through 4 games. As a 3rd down back or whatever he played his first year in the league and last year, he's more effective. It keeps him healthy.

His second season he was not given the load. In his second season he was brought back slowly, with Stephen Davis being the workhorse. When Davis got hurt in some games that season, DeShaun filled in very well for him, especially against the Colts, Arizona, Philly, and against NE in the Super Bowl. The Panthers OC said that DeShaun's injuries have all been legit injuries, that could be chalked up to plain old bad luck.

 

[Interseptopus]

Take Foster, he has yet to complete a full 16 game season when he was "the man." His second season he was given the load, but he only made it through 4 games. As a 3rd down back or whatever he played his first year in the league and last year, he's more effective. It keeps him healthy.

His second season he was not given the load. In his second season he was brought back slowly, with Stephen Davis being the workhorse. When Davis got hurt in some games that season, DeShaun filled in very well for him, especially against the Colts, Arizona, Philly, and against NE in the Super Bowl. The Panthers OC said that DeShaun's injuries have all been legit injuries, that could be chalked up to plain old bad luck.

I thought Davis was out for the year that year, giving way to Foster in his second year- but then Foster went down as well. Correct me if I'm wrong. I made that post with the idea that Foster filled in for Davis after Davis was hurt. He wasn't given the load right away, but when Davis went down, he had to step into that role. If I am mistaken then I will admit to it

 

[H.K.]

Foster will get hurt

Bank on it.

Ha ha. I was reading the title, and thought, "yeah, that's silly that people think they can predict that.............well, except for Foster."

Seriously, it's a mortal lock.

Yep, now that I have him on one of my roster's it is...

 

[Bristol]

All I hear is that Dillon will get hurt or Foster will get hurt and that is the basis of why people are putting more stock into players like Morency and Williams. I don't get it. Yes, they have been injury risks in the past, but that does not automatically make them injury risks in the future.

That is foolish reasoning in my opinion.

I would be more than happy to draft those players and watch as you guys sweat it out waiting for them to get hurt so your player will get his shot.

While you are at it, why don't you make your whole running back stable nothing but backups like Turner, Morris, Bennett, etc. Tomlinson, LJ, and Alexander may get hurt too, so why stop at Williams and Morency?

LT and Alexander have scored 15+ TDs in the past, but that does not automatically mean they will score 15+ TDs in the future. Nothing is automatic in fantasy football. All we have to go on are what we see, and trends. Yes, injuries are difficult to predict, but when it happens 4 times in a row that is a trend just like scoring 15+ TDs 4 times in a row is a trend.You would be more than happy to draft hose players and let other people sweat it out for the backups? What the hell kind of a point is that? It's not like people are drafting DeAngelo ahead of Foster, everyone would love to have the starter but that doesn't change the value of the backup later on. Your whole post is offbeat and missing the point entirely. DeAngelo is more valuable than other backups because of the guy in front of him, no one is claiming he is more valuable than the guy that is in front of him.

And what the heck is that last statement in your post supposed to mean? Seriously, even if you wanted to argue this point your post is lacking in any substance or merit whatsoever, you're just spitting out random names. You're looking at things with an entirely too simplistic view, and fantasy football requires more than that.

Whatever I have been in numerous drafts already where Williams and MAroney are going well before they should because people are banking on the fact that Dillon or Foster will get hurt. Do you know that for a fact? Did you steal the time machine from Back to the Future and take Biff's Sports Alamanac?

You missed my point entirely. People are taking Williams and Maroney well before they should because they think they know that Dillon or Foster will get hurt. My reasoning in the last statement is that they should also take Turner, Bennett, etc if that's they way they are thinking during the draft.

I have been playing this game for close to 20 years now and I know what kind of viewpoint to look at Fantasy Football. Drafting Williams and Maroney as high as they ar ebeing taken and banking on an injury for the starter is foolish.

I am not saying I wouldn't take them, but I am not paying the prices that most are. There are better players that could help you team out better than a backup who is waiting for his shot.

 

[simey]

I thought Davis was out for the year that year, giving way to Foster in his second year- but then Foster went down as well. Correct me if I'm wrong. I made that post with the idea that Foster filled in for Davis after Davis was hurt. He wasn't given the load right away, but when Davis went down, he had to step into that role. If I am mistaken then I will admit to it

Foster's first year he hurt his knee in the preseason, and was out for the rest of year. His second year he was brought back slowly, the panthers brought in stephen davis, and foster did well when he had playing time. his third year stephen davis was the starter, but hurt his knee in the first game. deshaun started the next three games, and in the third game broke his collarbone against denver. his fourth year he broke his foot in the second playoff game against the bears. this will be his fifth year with the panthers.