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Why does LT take himself out so OFTEN?!?!? (1 Viewer)

Magnum

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Seriously, I back LT on this board quite often. I still say the guy has FF value (and he does).

But, the Chargers got the ball with 10:35 remaining in the FIRST QUARTER!!!! Now, check this out:

1st and 10 at SD 31 L.Tomlinson right tackle to SD 35 for 4 yards (R.McBean).

2nd and 6 at SD 35 P.Rivers pass short right to V.Jackson to SD 46 for 11 yards (C.Bailey).

1st and 10 at SD 46 L.Tomlinson left end pushed ob at DEN 33 for 21 yards (R.Hill).

1st and 10 at DEN 33 D.Sproles up the middle to DEN 25 for 8 yards (B.Dawkins).

2nd and 2 at DEN 25 D.Sproles up the middle to DEN 27 for -2 yards (D.Reid; E.Dumervil).

Seriously? After three plays........the 3rd being a 21 yard scamper.....you need a rest? I watched LT get up (after the 21 yard run) and motion to the sidelines for a rest. I seriously thought to myself...."WTF?......you've got to be kidding me". This is a 30 year old dude who is in incredible physical shape! What gives?

 
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As long as they keep winning and he keeps getting tds, thats all that matters (both for playoffs and the football he signed thats incased in my house :) ) Fantasy purposes, sure its been a frustrating year to own him but hopefully he continues to get better each week.

He needs 32 more tds on the ground to surpass emmitt. I would love to see that but think he hangs them up after next season. He may decide to hang it up with his child on the way after this season. Who knows..

 
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The guy has carried the ball about 10,000 times in his career - he's trying to save his body over the course of the season and for a playoff drive. Stinks for fantasy owners, but it does make sense from an NFL perspective.

 
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The guy has carried the ball about 10,000 times in his career - he's trying to save his body over the course of the season and for a playoff drive. Stinks for fantasy owners, but it does make sense from an NFL perspective.
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He has a running bet with Clinton Portis on who can come out the most. CP tried to double or nothing for coming out and using o2 too, but LT stuck to just coming out. :banned:

 
I am surprised that LT is not catching many passes as well. Over the years LT was very good out of the backfield. Now the Chargers are passing more than ever and LT is not involved.

 
he will have life after football. I am sure he wants to be able to walk in his old age. is it Campbell that has trouble walking these days?

i do not think us average fans know how much of a beating these players(specialty the RBs) take week end week out, year in year out

 
When exactly did the Shark Pool turn in to "comedy hour"? :coffee:
Well your question was selfish and probably deserved nothing better. The guy is helping his team try and win a super bowl by saving his worn down body for the playoffs, while you are throwing a fit because he took himself out of the game while on your fantasy roster. Does he owe it to you to stay in there and get those extra yards and carries?
 
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I am surprised that LT is not catching many passes as well. Over the years LT was very good out of the backfield. Now the Chargers are passing more than ever and LT is not involved.
Agreed - Sproles is clearly the back on passing downs, but LT's receptions have dropped to virtually nil. You'd think they'd try to use LT occasionally as an outlet to save some of the between-the-tackles pounding, and also be less predictable in play calling.
 
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I am surprised that LT is not catching many passes as well. Over the years LT was very good out of the backfield. Now the Chargers are passing more than ever and LT is not involved.
Agreed - Sproles is clearly the back on passing downs, but LT's receptions have dropped to virtually nil. You'd think they'd try to use LT occasionally as an outlet to save some of the between-the-tackles pounding, and also be less predictable in play calling.
I noticed that he's almost entirely being used to block on passing plays. I think it mainly that they trust his blocking but it sure makes it obvious it easier to defend once the defense sniffs that it's a passing play. Luckily it has worked for them since Rivers is playing so well, but I don't see the play calling getting them very far in the playoffs.
 
I am surprised that LT is not catching many passes as well. Over the years LT was very good out of the backfield. Now the Chargers are passing more than ever and LT is not involved.
Agreed - Sproles is clearly the back on passing downs, but LT's receptions have dropped to virtually nil. You'd think they'd try to use LT occasionally as an outlet to save some of the between-the-tackles pounding, and also be less predictable in play calling.
I noticed that he's almost entirely being used to block on passing plays. I think it mainly that they trust his blocking but it sure makes it obvious it easier to defend once the defense sniffs that it's a passing play. Luckily it has worked for them since Rivers is playing so well, but I don't see the play calling getting them very far in the playoffs.
They have had some recent success in the playoffs. I think they will be a very tough out. AFC Championship game potential in my opinion.
 
Bizkiteer said:
He has a running bet with Clinton Portis on who can come out the most. CP tried to double or nothing for coming out and using o2 too, but LT stuck to just coming out. :lmao:
Is Brandon Jacobs involved in this bet too?
 
I am surprised that LT is not catching many passes as well. Over the years LT was very good out of the backfield. Now the Chargers are passing more than ever and LT is not involved.
Agreed - Sproles is clearly the back on passing downs, but LT's receptions have dropped to virtually nil. You'd think they'd try to use LT occasionally as an outlet to save some of the between-the-tackles pounding, and also be less predictable in play calling.
I noticed that he's almost entirely being used to block on passing plays. I think it mainly that they trust his blocking but it sure makes it obvious it easier to defend once the defense sniffs that it's a passing play. Luckily it has worked for them since Rivers is playing so well, but I don't see the play calling getting them very far in the playoffs.
They have had some recent success in the playoffs. I think they will be a very tough out. AFC Championship game potential in my opinion.
If they can get a bye, I like their chances quite a bit considering they'd likely be at Indy who they play pretty well. That said, come playoff time the Chargers are like a box of chocolates.
 
When exactly did the Shark Pool turn in to "comedy hour"? :lol:
Well your question was selfish and probably deserved nothing better. The guy is helping his team try and win a super bowl by saving his worn down body for the playoffs, while you are throwing a fit because he took himself out of the game while on your fantasy roster. Does he owe it to you to stay in there and get those extra yards and carries?
Wrong. Was I puzzled as to why a man of 30 years of age.........and in tip top shape......would need a breather three plays in to the first quarter? No doubt! But, to say he's "saving his worn down body" three plays in to the FIRST QUARTER is ludicrous. If you want to use that argument later in the game.......I'll buy it. But, not two minutes in to the game.
 
When exactly did the Shark Pool turn in to "comedy hour"? :thumbdown:
Well your question was selfish and probably deserved nothing better. The guy is helping his team try and win a super bowl by saving his worn down body for the playoffs, while you are throwing a fit because he took himself out of the game while on your fantasy roster. Does he owe it to you to stay in there and get those extra yards and carries?
Wrong. Was I puzzled as to why a man of 30 years of age.........and in tip top shape......would need a breather three plays in to the first quarter? No doubt! But, to say he's "saving his worn down body" three plays in to the FIRST QUARTER is ludicrous. If you want to use that argument later in the game.......I'll buy it. But, not two minutes in to the game.
Well I'd say he's screwing around with fantasy players. Ya know like MJD did by taking a knee at the 1. Cuz when these guys are in the heat of battle their worried about their fantasy owners.Or maybe he isn't always in control over the personnel decisions. Perhaps the OC wants a different personnel package on the field for certain situations...maybe setting up plays for later? Or he's screwing with your fantasy team. Tough call.
 
This seems to be a pattern now. 5-10 years ago you had to drag a RB off the field, now if they carry the ball 2-3 times in a row they are waving for a sub to replace them.

S-Jax is one of the few guys now who never even looks to the sidelines during a game,

 
Bizkiteer said:
He has a running bet with Clinton Portis on who can come out the most. CP tried to double or nothing for coming out and using o2 too, but LT stuck to just coming out. :confused:
DeAngelo would like to mention that he is the king of asking to be taken out of the game. Any carry of 8 yards or more requires a breather.
 
He needs 32 more tds on the ground to surpass emmitt.
Change of of subject:Any chance Tomlinson has a Marcus-Allen-like twighlight to his career in which he plays a while as pretty strictly a GL back? He'd have to go to a contender so that getting the record is (barely) feasible in two seasons. More likely, he would need two big TD-vulture seasons (in the 12-14 range), and then one season of 7 or 8 TDs while hanging around on the end of a roster.
 
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When exactly did the Shark Pool turn in to "comedy hour"? ;)
Well your question was selfish and probably deserved nothing better. The guy is helping his team try and win a super bowl by saving his worn down body for the playoffs, while you are throwing a fit because he took himself out of the game while on your fantasy roster. Does he owe it to you to stay in there and get those extra yards and carries?
Wrong. Was I puzzled as to why a man of 30 years of age.........and in tip top shape......would need a breather three plays in to the first quarter? No doubt! But, to say he's "saving his worn down body" three plays in to the FIRST QUARTER is ludicrous. If you want to use that argument later in the game.......I'll buy it. But, not two minutes in to the game.
Well I'd say he's screwing around with fantasy players. Ya know like MJD did by taking a knee at the 1. Cuz when these guys are in the heat of battle their worried about their fantasy owners.Or maybe he isn't always in control over the personnel decisions. Perhaps the OC wants a different personnel package on the field for certain situations...maybe setting up plays for later? Or he's screwing with your fantasy team. Tough call.
If you read my first post.......you'd see that I was asking what was up with LT TAKING HIMSELF out of games. But, I can see you have some severe reading comprehension issues. You can get help for that. Good luck.
 
When exactly did the Shark Pool turn in to "comedy hour"? :shrug:
Well your question was selfish and probably deserved nothing better. The guy is helping his team try and win a super bowl by saving his worn down body for the playoffs, while you are throwing a fit because he took himself out of the game while on your fantasy roster. Does he owe it to you to stay in there and get those extra yards and carries?
Wrong. Was I puzzled as to why a man of 30 years of age.........and in tip top shape......would need a breather three plays in to the first quarter? No doubt! But, to say he's "saving his worn down body" three plays in to the FIRST QUARTER is ludicrous. If you want to use that argument later in the game.......I'll buy it. But, not two minutes in to the game.
Well I'd say he's screwing around with fantasy players. Ya know like MJD did by taking a knee at the 1. Cuz when these guys are in the heat of battle their worried about their fantasy owners.Or maybe he isn't always in control over the personnel decisions. Perhaps the OC wants a different personnel package on the field for certain situations...maybe setting up plays for later? Or he's screwing with your fantasy team. Tough call.
If you read my first post.......you'd see that I was asking what was up with LT TAKING HIMSELF out of games. But, I can see you have some severe reading comprehension issues. You can get help for that. Good luck.
Cool thread.
 
When exactly did the Shark Pool turn in to "comedy hour"? :kicksrock:
Well your question was selfish and probably deserved nothing better. The guy is helping his team try and win a super bowl by saving his worn down body for the playoffs, while you are throwing a fit because he took himself out of the game while on your fantasy roster. Does he owe it to you to stay in there and get those extra yards and carries?
Wrong. Was I puzzled as to why a man of 30 years of age.........and in tip top shape......would need a breather three plays in to the first quarter? No doubt! But, to say he's "saving his worn down body" three plays in to the FIRST QUARTER is ludicrous. If you want to use that argument later in the game.......I'll buy it. But, not two minutes in to the game.
Well I'd say he's screwing around with fantasy players. Ya know like MJD did by taking a knee at the 1. Cuz when these guys are in the heat of battle their worried about their fantasy owners.Or maybe he isn't always in control over the personnel decisions. Perhaps the OC wants a different personnel package on the field for certain situations...maybe setting up plays for later? Or he's screwing with your fantasy team. Tough call.
If you read my first post.......you'd see that I was asking what was up with LT TAKING HIMSELF out of games. But, I can see you have some severe reading comprehension issues. You can get help for that. Good luck.
My reading comprehension is just fine, now settle down Francis.How do you know he's taking himself out? You refer to a game log showing Sproles instead of LT and you're assuming LT took himself out. I merely offered that maybe the OC put in a different personnel package. Pretty common.And maybe LT isn't in tip top shape as you further assume. Let's not forget he was injured previously. And as other posters have opined, maybe he (or his coaches) thinks its more important for him to be fresh in the 4th quarter.
 
First of all, prove that LT took himself out.

Second of all, LT is one of the greatest RBs of all time, save Brown, Payton, Smith, and Sanders. I still think Payton is the best "football" player of all time just ahead of Jerry Rice. But, LT has and always will be a stud.

 
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Wrong.

Was I puzzled as to why a man of 30 years of age.........and in tip top shape......would need a breather three plays in to the first quarter? No doubt! But, to say he's "saving his worn down body" three plays in to the FIRST QUARTER is ludicrous. If you want to use that argument later in the game.......I'll buy it. But, not two minutes in to the game.

Well I'd say he's screwing around with fantasy players. Ya know like MJD did by taking a knee at the 1. Cuz when these guys are in the heat of battle their worried about their fantasy owners.

Or maybe he isn't always in control over the personnel decisions. Perhaps the OC wants a different personnel package on the field for certain situations...maybe setting up plays for later? Or he's screwing with your fantasy team. Tough call.

If you read my first post.......you'd see that I was asking what was up with LT TAKING HIMSELF out of games. But, I can see you have some severe reading comprehension issues. You can get help for that. Good luck.

My reading comprehension is just fine, now settle down Francis.

How do you know he's taking himself out? You refer to a game log showing Sproles instead of LT and you're assuming LT took himself out. I merely offered that maybe the OC put in a different personnel package. Pretty common.

And maybe LT isn't in tip top shape as you further assume. Let's not forget he was injured previously. And as other posters have opined, maybe he (or his coaches) thinks its more important for him to be fresh in the 4th quarter.

Slow down.....read my original post......and you'll see this: "I watched LT get up (after the 21 yard run) and motion to the sidelines for a rest". Now, tell me again about how "fine" your reading comprehenion skills are. :goodposting:

 
Slow down.....read my original post......and you'll see this: "I watched LT get up (after the 21 yard run) and motion to the sidelines for a rest". Now, tell me again about how "fine" your reading comprehenion skills are. :thumbup:
You sure his shoelace wasn't untied :excited: Maybe since a lot of teams script their first 15 or so plays he knew he needed to come out? Fact is, we really don't know why he comes out. You're assuming he's tired.And stop being a tool.
 
Amused to Death said:
Magnum said:
Slow down.....read my original post......and you'll see this: "I watched LT get up (after the 21 yard run) and motion to the sidelines for a rest". Now, tell me again about how "fine" your reading comprehenion skills are. :excited:
You sure his shoelace wasn't untied :excited: Maybe since a lot of teams script their first 15 or so plays he knew he needed to come out? Fact is, we really don't know why he comes out. You're assuming he's tired.And stop being a tool.
I saw him get up, tap his chest, and point to the sideline (then jog off). It's become so common with LT that it has me curious.
 
Amused to Death said:
Magnum said:
Slow down.....read my original post......and you'll see this: "I watched LT get up (after the 21 yard run) and motion to the sidelines for a rest". Now, tell me again about how "fine" your reading comprehenion skills are. :excited:
You sure his shoelace wasn't untied :excited: Maybe since a lot of teams script their first 15 or so plays he knew he needed to come out? Fact is, we really don't know why he comes out. You're assuming he's tired.And stop being a tool.
I saw him get up, tap his chest, and point to the sideline (then jog off). It's become so common with LT that it has me curious.
He probably needed a break is all. I saw him come back in the game, so it's not serious. :excited:
 
He needs 32 more tds on the ground to surpass emmitt.
Change of of subject:Any chance Tomlinson has a Marcus-Allen-like twighlight to his career in which he plays a while as pretty strictly a GL back? He'd have to go to a contender so that getting the record is (barely) feasible in two seasons. More likely, he would need two big TD-vulture seasons (in the 12-14 range), and then one season of 7 or 8 TDs while hanging around on the end of a roster.
I don't see why not, he's avoided the major injuries that shorten RB's careers and stays in great condition. There's a good chance that he hangs around a few more years in a RBBC in a good offense and puts up RB2 numbers. He's still has great vision and can be effective with some decent blocking.
 
Tomlinson had 20 carries for 73 yards and a touchdown on Sunday at Denver, but he missed parts of the game due to a hip injury that has been bothering him since Week 9, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports.Spin: Tomlinson first bruised his hip Nov. 8 against the Giants, but he doesn't seem to think the injury is all that serious. "It's still bruised," Tomlinson said. "Whenever I get hit or land on it, I monitor it. But I don't think about it." Tomlinson knows he has a healthy and capable backfield partner in Darren Sproles, so he frequently subs out of the game if the hip is acting up. But it seems it's not too much of a problem since his two best games of the year, statistically, came after the injury. Tomlinson continues to get the lion's share of carries in San Diego, and he is starting to break longer runs with much more regularity. The Chargers' running game is really hitting its stride as the season winds down.
 
Amused to Death said:
Magnum said:
Slow down.....read my original post......and you'll see this: "I watched LT get up (after the 21 yard run) and motion to the sidelines for a rest". Now, tell me again about how "fine" your reading comprehenion skills are. :excited:
You sure his shoelace wasn't untied :excited: Maybe since a lot of teams script their first 15 or so plays he knew he needed to come out? Fact is, we really don't know why he comes out. You're assuming he's tired.And stop being a tool.
I saw him get up, tap his chest, and point to the sideline (then jog off). It's become so common with LT that it has me curious.
He probably needed a break is all. I saw him come back in the game, so it's not serious. :rant:
I have to agree with the OP. I also have seen LT2 carry the ball a couple of times and then ask to be taken out by tapping his chest and point to the sidelines. He does seem to do this often, and I wondered how could he possibly be tired so quickly. For the record I don't own LT2 in any league.
 

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