Why don't more players wear thermal shirts in cold weather games? (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

I see lots of players bearing their entire arms in freezing cold weather and it doesn't make sense to me. I would think you would play better the warmer you are. I remember players from the 70s (especially QBs) would wear thermal shirts under their jersey in freezing weather. Is it a macho thing?

 

[jon_mx]

Because they are men!

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

Because they get hot running around.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

They can't afford them.

 

[offdee]

It's definitely a macho thing. I'm from Wisconsin and even back in high school in the 90's you'd have kids not wearing long sleeves in freezing cold to show how tough they were. Let alone NFL guys who want to show their jacked arms and tattoos.

 

[MAC_32]

Because they get hot running around.

Not that hot.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It's actually hot as hell wearing all that gear and running around. When theyre on the sideline theyre sitting on heated seats, with huge coats. Even their hats get warmed up on the hat holders.

 

[encaitar]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

 

[JohnnyU]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

 

[jurb26]

The most common reason for offensive players is they don't like the feel of the shirts on the actual football. It can make it feel more slippery and they fear ball security.

On defense I thinks it's just a tough guy thing.

 

[encaitar]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

They aren't exposed for 3 hours though. They play for ~10 minutes then go sit by the heaters (or wear a huge coat) and warm up/stay warm.

 

[Touchdown There]

Because they get hot running around.

Not that hot.

They do get that hot. Summer heat is more dangerous to a football player than "freezing weather". The optimal outside temperature for a football player is around 40-50 degrees. 25 degree weather is not far from that optimum, compared to 95 degree heat. You will see most players wearing an extra layer when it gets into the single digits with wind, not a low wind 30 degree "freezing" day.

 

[JohnnyU]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

They aren't exposed for 3 hours though. They play for ~10 minutes then go sit by the heaters (or wear a huge coat) and warm up/stay warm.

Perhaps, but it only takes a few minutes with your skin exposed to below zero temps to get frostbite.

 

[Dragon1952]

I get claustrophobia wearing those thermal shirts. They fit like sausage skins, especially if you are halfway buff which most of those guys are in spades. Those guys would have to have them specially made of course, and one problem is when you get too hot there is no way to get them off quickly. And when you get overheated those things are horrible.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

They aren't exposed for 3 hours though. They play for ~10 minutes then go sit by the heaters (or wear a huge coat) and warm up/stay warm.

Perhaps, but it only takes a few minutes with your skin exposed to below zero temps to get frostbite.

Since no NFL player has ever suffered from frostbite, I'm going to say it's not a real concern.

I see where you're coming from, but it's true that the under armor type stuff is so well made these days that it DOES get uncomfortably warm and hot even in the freezing cold and snow. That's why a lot of guys just prefer to run off the field and throw one of those huge coats on and sit on a warmed seat in front of the heaters, they can control how warm they get and be comfortable on the field.

 

[jurb26]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

They aren't exposed for 3 hours though. They play for ~10 minutes then go sit by the heaters (or wear a huge coat) and warm up/stay warm.

Perhaps, but it only takes a few minutes with your skin exposed to below zero temps to get frostbite.

Since no NFL player has ever suffered from frostbite, I'm going to say it's not a real concern.

Ummm....

"Several players were treated for frostbite and a fan in the stands died of exposure to the cold."

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grb/?n=icebowl67

 

[MAC_32]

Because they get hot running around.

Not that hot.

They do get that hot. Summer heat is more dangerous to a football player than "freezing weather". The optimal outside temperature for a football player is around 40-50 degrees. 25 degree weather is not far from that optimum, compared to 95 degree heat. You will see most players wearing an extra layer when it gets into the single digits with wind, not a low wind 30 degree "freezing" day.

I think you got the temps about right. I won't roll my eyes about a dude not choosing cold gear until it gets into the twenties.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

They aren't exposed for 3 hours though. They play for ~10 minutes then go sit by the heaters (or wear a huge coat) and warm up/stay warm.

Perhaps, but it only takes a few minutes with your skin exposed to below zero temps to get frostbite.

Since no NFL player has ever suffered from frostbite, I'm going to say it's not a real concern.

Ummm....

"Several players were treated for frostbite and a fan in the stands died of exposure to the cold."http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grb/?n=icebowl67

1967, nice pull.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Part of the answer could be machismo. On Sirius Pat Kirwin asked Kyle Long, Sleeves or no sleeves in the cold weather? Long replied, "No sleeves baby. Gotta show off the pythons." :-D

 

[Ever Present Lurker]

It's actually hot as hell wearing all that gear and running around. When they're on the sideline theyre sitting on heated seats, with huge coats. Even their hats get warmed up on the hat holders.

My ### it is. Cold is cold. And those pads are made to be as COOL and vented as possible. It's completely a toughness thing, and most players are pretty open about that. The helmet is the hottest thing, and I promise you it's no match for winter weather.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It's actually hot as hell wearing all that gear and running around. When they're on the sideline theyre sitting on heated seats, with huge coats. Even their hats get warmed up on the hat holders.

My ### it is. Cold is cold. And those pads are made to be as COOL and vented as possible. It's completely a toughness thing, and most players are pretty open about that. The helmet is the hottest thing, and I promise you it's no match for winter weather.

Cold to you is not cold to me. Same with the heat.

The players of today have TONS of things to keep warm on the coldest days. Tons.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

They aren't exposed for 3 hours though. They play for ~10 minutes then go sit by the heaters (or wear a huge coat) and warm up/stay warm.

Perhaps, but it only takes a few minutes with your skin exposed to below zero temps to get frostbite.

Since no NFL player has ever suffered from frostbite, I'm going to say it's not a real concern.

Ummm...."Several players were treated for frostbite and a fan in the stands died of exposure to the cold."http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grb/?n=icebowl67

1967, nice pull.

 

[Soulfly3]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

 

[jurb26]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

They aren't exposed for 3 hours though. They play for ~10 minutes then go sit by the heaters (or wear a huge coat) and warm up/stay warm.

Perhaps, but it only takes a few minutes with your skin exposed to below zero temps to get frostbite.

Since no NFL player has ever suffered from frostbite, I'm going to say it's not a real concern.

Ummm....

"Several players were treated for frostbite and a fan in the stands died of exposure to the cold."http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grb/?n=icebowl67

1967, nice pull.

Well, it's kind of a famous game which is why I'm surprised by your statement of "ever."

 

[JohnnyU]

People are different. Weather that forces one person into a parka might see another person only wearing a hoodie. I'm sure some are trying to be "tough", but most are likely doing what is most comfortable for them.

When it's below zero isn't it dangerous to expose your skin for 3 hours? Wouldn't the smart thing be to keep your skin covered with a thermal shirt? I live in Minnesota and I know something about frost bite and the dangers of sub zero weather.

They aren't exposed for 3 hours though. They play for ~10 minutes then go sit by the heaters (or wear a huge coat) and warm up/stay warm.

Perhaps, but it only takes a few minutes with your skin exposed to below zero temps to get frostbite.

Since no NFL player has ever suffered from frostbite, I'm going to say it's not a real concern.

Ummm...."Several players were treated for frostbite and a fan in the stands died of exposure to the cold."http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grb/?n=icebowl67

1967, nice pull.

really?

I believe some idiots went to the hospital in the San Diego vs Cincinnati game.

In NFL lore, the Freezer Bowl (January 10, 1982) was the 1981 AFC Championship Game between the San Diego Chargers and the Cincinnati Bengals. The game, won by the Bengals, 27–7, was played in the coldest temperature in NFL history in terms of wind chill. (The coldest in terms of air temperature was the Ice Bowl.) Air temperature was −9 °F (−23 °C), but the wind chill, factoring in a sustained wind of 27 miles per hour (43 km/h), was −37 °F or −38 °C (calculated as −59 °F or −51 °C using the now outdated wind chill formula in place at the time).

 

[ConnSKINS26]

It's actually hot as hell wearing all that gear and running around. When they're on the sideline theyre sitting on heated seats, with huge coats. Even their hats get warmed up on the hat holders.

My ### it is. Cold is cold. And those pads are made to be as COOL and vented as possible. It's completely a toughness thing, and most players are pretty open about that. The helmet is the hottest thing, and I promise you it's no match for winter weather.

Those "thermal shirts" (by which I assumed the OP meant something like Under Armor) are designed to retain heat, they get extremely uncomfortable even if it's freezing out. I live in NE and in college we'd go out and regularly play tackle football during snow storms, you start out all layered up but everyone would end up playing just in under armor and sweat pants by the end and still be sweating our asses off, until the sweat dried and the cold set in on the walk back to the dorms, then it would get freezing. But while you're playing, it's extremely hot eventually even with nothing on but the under armor. And we'd play sober, too (usually) so no artificial booze warmth.

Factor in carrying the weight of pads, and having heaters to sit in front of, I can see why a lot of these huge human beings wouldn't want to be dying in thermal gear even when it's freezing out. I'm sure they're wearing the thermal gear, just cut off at the arms.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

I know you're Canadian as ####, but I'm from NE which is pretty damn cold in the winter and read my post above about being out in the cold in thermal Under Armor.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's actually hot as hell wearing all that gear and running around. When they're on the sideline theyre sitting on heated seats, with huge coats. Even their hats get warmed up on the hat holders.

My ### it is. Cold is cold. And those pads are made to be as COOL and vented as possible. It's completely a toughness thing, and most players are pretty open about that. The helmet is the hottest thing, and I promise you it's no match for winter weather.

Those "thermal shirts" (by which I assumed the OP meant something like Under Armor) are designed to retain heat, they get extremely uncomfortable even if it's freezing out.

I live in NE and in college we'd go out and regularly play tackle football during snow storms, you start out all layered up but everyone would end up playing just in under armor and sweat pants by the end and still be sweating our asses off, until the sweat dried and the cold set in on the walk back to the dorms, then it would get freezing. But while you're playing, it's extremely hot eventually even with nothing on but the under armor. And we'd play sober, too (usually) so no artificial booze warmth.

Factor in carrying the weight of pads, and having heaters to sit in front of, I can see why a lot of these huge human beings wouldn't want to be dying in thermal gear even when it's freezing out.

Bert Jones wore them all the time in very cold weather. I bet you those idiots wearing nothing on their arms would have been extremely uncomfortable in the ice bowl or freezer bowl.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

I live in Pa and have lived through a fair share of cold winters. I also work Eagles games (for the NFL) and I'm roughly 5 feet from the bench and players of the Eagles and visiting teams. It's not macho. It's damn near Florida on the sidelines with what they have. Yesterday I had jeans and a light jacket on and was sweating just standing there. If theyre on the field their running a good bit with lots of pads and clothes on under the pads as well. Unless the temps are insanely cold I don't see how you can't stay warm.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

It's actually hot as hell wearing all that gear and running around. When they're on the sideline theyre sitting on heated seats, with huge coats. Even their hats get warmed up on the hat holders.

My ### it is. Cold is cold. And those pads are made to be as COOL and vented as possible. It's completely a toughness thing, and most players are pretty open about that. The helmet is the hottest thing, and I promise you it's no match for winter weather.

Those "thermal shirts" (by which I assumed the OP meant something like Under Armor) are designed to retain heat, they get extremely uncomfortable even if it's freezing out.

I live in NE and in college we'd go out and regularly play tackle football during snow storms, you start out all layered up but everyone would end up playing just in under armor and sweat pants by the end and still be sweating our asses off, until the sweat dried and the cold set in on the walk back to the dorms, then it would get freezing. But while you're playing, it's extremely hot eventually even with nothing on but the under armor. And we'd play sober, too (usually) so no artificial booze warmth.

Factor in carrying the weight of pads, and having heaters to sit in front of, I can see why a lot of these huge human beings wouldn't want to be dying in thermal gear even when it's freezing out.

Bert Jones wore them all the time in very cold weather.

Clothing technology has advanced a bit since then. The stuff now keeps you warmer to a crazy degree compared to anything that was around when I was a kid (and I'm only 25).

I'm sure these guys are wearing thermal gear everywhere but their bare arms, and that's what keeps them cool enough to be comfortable (although I'm sure some of it is machismo, especially in places like MIN and GB--but they aren't as cold as you think).

 

[JohnnyU]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

I live in Pa and have lived through a fair share of cold winters. I also work Eagles games (for the NFL) and I'm roughly 5 feet from the bench and players of the Eagles and visiting teams. It's not macho. It's damn near Florida on the sidelines with what they have. Yesterday I had jeans and a light jacket on and was sweating just standing there. If theyre on the field their running a good bit with lots of pads and clothes on under the pads as well. Unless the temps are insanely cold I don't see how you can't stay warm.

Insanely cold is the idea of this thread, not 15 to 20 something.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's actually hot as hell wearing all that gear and running around. When they're on the sideline theyre sitting on heated seats, with huge coats. Even their hats get warmed up on the hat holders.

My ### it is. Cold is cold. And those pads are made to be as COOL and vented as possible. It's completely a toughness thing, and most players are pretty open about that. The helmet is the hottest thing, and I promise you it's no match for winter weather.

Those "thermal shirts" (by which I assumed the OP meant something like Under Armor) are designed to retain heat, they get extremely uncomfortable even if it's freezing out.

I live in NE and in college we'd go out and regularly play tackle football during snow storms, you start out all layered up but everyone would end up playing just in under armor and sweat pants by the end and still be sweating our asses off, until the sweat dried and the cold set in on the walk back to the dorms, then it would get freezing. But while you're playing, it's extremely hot eventually even with nothing on but the under armor. And we'd play sober, too (usually) so no artificial booze warmth.

Factor in carrying the weight of pads, and having heaters to sit in front of, I can see why a lot of these huge human beings wouldn't want to be dying in thermal gear even when it's freezing out.

Bert Jones wore them all the time in very cold weather.

Clothing technology has advanced a bit since then. The stuff now keeps you warmer to a crazy degree compared to anything that was around when I was a kid (and I'm only 25).

I'm sure these guys are wearing thermal gear everywhere but their bare arms, and that's what keeps them cool enough to be comfortable (although I'm sure some of it is machismo, especially in places like MIN and GB--but they aren't as cold as you think).

exposed skin doesn't warm up in below freezing temps.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

I live in Pa and have lived through a fair share of cold winters. I also work Eagles games (for the NFL) and I'm roughly 5 feet from the bench and players of the Eagles and visiting teams. It's not macho. It's damn near Florida on the sidelines with what they have. Yesterday I had jeans and a light jacket on and was sweating just standing there. If theyre on the field their running a good bit with lots of pads and clothes on under the pads as well. Unless the temps are insanely cold I don't see how you can't stay warm.

Insanely cold is the idea of this thread, not 15 to 20 something.

By insanely cold I mean like -50 or something. Wind chill last night here was in the 20's and I was sweating.

 

[JohnnyU]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

I live in Pa and have lived through a fair share of cold winters. I also work Eagles games (for the NFL) and I'm roughly 5 feet from the bench and players of the Eagles and visiting teams. It's not macho. It's damn near Florida on the sidelines with what they have. Yesterday I had jeans and a light jacket on and was sweating just standing there. If theyre on the field their running a good bit with lots of pads and clothes on under the pads as well. Unless the temps are insanely cold I don't see how you can't stay warm.

Insanely cold is the idea of this thread, not 15 to 20 something.

By insanely cold I mean like -50 or something. Wind chill last night here was in the 20's and I was sweating.

below zero is very cold and if you factor in wind chill, it could be insanely cold. Those not wearing anything on their arms in those conditions when they could doesn't sound smart to me.

 

[JohnnyU]

Anyone remember Bob Hayes putting his hands in his pants while running routes in the Ice Bowl? The Packers knew he wasn't getting the ball every time he did that according to some of their players.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Ah okay, I guess I wasn't thinking literally -20 or colder (with wind chill), I can see the threat to exposed skin there. That makes sense. But it's also pretty rare overall. The usual "freezing cold" temps I'm talking about, less than 32 but above -10, I stand by everything I said.

The huge heaters on the sideline and heated seats, etc. I think must be the difference nowadays.

 

[JohnnyU]

Ah okay, I guess I wasn't thinking literally -20 or colder (with wind chill), I can see the threat to exposed skin there. That makes sense. But it's also pretty rare overall. The usual "freezing cold" temps I'm talking about, less than 32 but above -10, I stand by everything I said.

The huge heaters on the sideline and heated seats, etc. I think must be the difference nowadays.

I wouldn't go as far as to mention -10 as being safe to exposed skin, but yes, I agree with you about anything above 0.

 

[Ever Present Lurker]

The poster who said "cold to you isn't cold to me" (paraphrase), is correct, but I could hit Canada with a rock from my house (but won't, I believe that constitutes an invasion) and spent a great portion of my life as a competitive skier and did 13 years of football. It was 9 degrees here today, and that's "chilly" to me. I know me some cold. I'm speaking directly to "bare arms" and the idea that the equipment provides any kind of warmth. I'm not speaking to underarmour, etc... I'd consider that "doing something" to keep warm. There is absolutely a macho/intimidation factor driving a players decision to play without any thermal layers. There also was a fair amount of internal pressure, particularly among the linemen, to NOT wear any kind of additional warmth. I notice tonight that many players, on both teams, have made the decision to go without thermal layers. Yikes!

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Another example that cold is relative, I live in No Cal and I am cold when I am in the frozen food area of my grocery store. )

 

[Steed]

It's actually hot as hell wearing all that gear and running around. When they're on the sideline theyre sitting on heated seats, with huge coats. Even their hats get warmed up on the hat holders.

My ### it is. Cold is cold. And those pads are made to be as COOL and vented as possible. It's completely a toughness thing, and most players are pretty open about that. The helmet is the hottest thing, and I promise you it's no match for winter weather.

Those "thermal shirts" (by which I assumed the OP meant something like Under Armor) are designed to retain heat, they get extremely uncomfortable even if it's freezing out.I live in NE and in college we'd go out and regularly play tackle football during snow storms, you start out all layered up but everyone would end up playing just in under armor and sweat pants by the end and still be sweating our asses off, until the sweat dried and the cold set in on the walk back to the dorms, then it would get freezing. But while you're playing, it's extremely hot eventually even with nothing on but the under armor. And we'd play sober, too (usually) so no artificial booze warmth.

Factor in carrying the weight of pads, and having heaters to sit in front of, I can see why a lot of these huge human beings wouldn't want to be dying in thermal gear even when it's freezing out.

Bert Jones wore them all the time in very cold weather.

Clothing technology has advanced a bit since then. The stuff now keeps you warmer to a crazy degree compared to anything that was around when I was a kid (and I'm only 25).I'm sure these guys are wearing thermal gear everywhere but their bare arms, and that's what keeps them cool enough to be comfortable (although I'm sure some of it is machismo, especially in places like MIN and GB--but they aren't as cold as you think).

exposed skin doesn't warm up in below freezing temps.

If they're sleevelss they're probably using a product like this

http://lungplususa.com/?page_id=147

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

I was the first poster to say it was because they are hot. I said it because it is true for me. I live in Chicago and I walk to and from the train every day for work. My walk is about 10 minutes. With nothing but a coat on (no hat or gloves) I work up a sweat walking to the train in 20 degree weather. Like several have mentioned, everyone reacts different to temperature.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

I live in Pa and have lived through a fair share of cold winters. I also work Eagles games (for the NFL) and I'm roughly 5 feet from the bench and players of the Eagles and visiting teams. It's not macho. It's damn near Florida on the sidelines with what they have. Yesterday I had jeans and a light jacket on and was sweating just standing there. If theyre on the field their running a good bit with lots of pads and clothes on under the pads as well. Unless the temps are insanely cold I don't see how you can't stay warm.

Insanely cold is the idea of this thread, not 15 to 20 something.

By insanely cold I mean like -50 or something. Wind chill last night here was in the 20's and I was sweating.

below zero is very cold and if you factor in wind chill, it could be insanely cold. Those not wearing anything on their arms in those conditions when they could doesn't sound smart to me.

Maybe you should send them a letter or an e-mail and let them know. They probably never even realized that below zero was cold.

 

[JohnnyU]

How many "not a macho thing" posters have ever lived through a northern winter?

Serious Q.

I live in Pa and have lived through a fair share of cold winters. I also work Eagles games (for the NFL) and I'm roughly 5 feet from the bench and players of the Eagles and visiting teams. It's not macho. It's damn near Florida on the sidelines with what they have. Yesterday I had jeans and a light jacket on and was sweating just standing there. If theyre on the field their running a good bit with lots of pads and clothes on under the pads as well. Unless the temps are insanely cold I don't see how you can't stay warm.

Insanely cold is the idea of this thread, not 15 to 20 something.

By insanely cold I mean like -50 or something. Wind chill last night here was in the 20's and I was sweating.

below zero is very cold and if you factor in wind chill, it could be insanely cold. Those not wearing anything on their arms in those conditions when they could doesn't sound smart to me.

Maybe you should send them a letter or an e-mail and let them know. They probably never even realized that below zero was cold.

Well, they are after all NFL players , so how smart could they possibly be?

 

[just_want_2_win]

Goodell should require thermal shirts in temps below 40.

 

[JohnnyU]

Goodell should require thermal shirts in temps below 40.

no, just below zero.

 

[just_want_2_win]

Goodell should require thermal shirts in temps below 40.

no, just below zero.

Player safety and all though. I would say suspend any player 1 game for not wearing their long johns. And with this requirement now NFL games can be played in cold places like Edmonton, Stockholm, Pyongyang, and Moscow.

 

[JohnnyU]

Goodell should require thermal shirts in temps below 40.

no, just below zero.

Player safety and all though. I would say suspend any player 1 game for not wearing their long johns. And with this requirement now NFL games can be played in cold places like Edmonton, Stockholm, Pyongyang, and Moscow.

Yeah, that's the ticket !!