Why is Benson even on the Bears? (1 Viewer)

[King of the Wolfies]

He barely played in the blowout win against SF, and now he Jones is still in there in a game thats completely in control. Will Benson even be a Bear next year?

 

[buccosfan]

It's probably more likely that Benson is a Bear than it is Jones.

 

[my man otis]

he's under contract and isn't getting cut, so yes he will be.

 

[Routilla]

He's in now.

 

[wilked]

A: Because the Bears scouts made a mistake

 

[billyjoe]

Stick a fork in Benson. He's not taking over this team, this year, or next.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

Yeah, but they waited until only 3 minutes are left. They must have absolutely no faith in him.

If they cut him next preseason, how much of a salary cap hit do they take?

 

[MagicMan]

Let's all jump the gun!

 

[steviey]

A2: Because the people that continuously whine about this also made a mistake when they picked the wrong Bears RB in their fantasy draft.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

A2: Because the people that continuously whine about this also made a mistake when they picked the wrong Bears RB in their fantasy draft.

I'd never draft a Bear other than their defense. He's been sitting on our WW most of the season, altho he occasionally gets picked up for a week or less.

 

[MagicMan]

A2: Because the people that continuously whine about this also made a mistake when they picked the wrong Bears RB in their fantasy draft.

I'd never draft a Bear other than their defense. He's been sitting on our WW most of the season, altho he occasionally gets picked up for a week or less.

Yea, I hate owning Grossman

 

[steviey]

A2: Because the people that continuously whine about this also made a mistake when they picked the wrong Bears RB in their fantasy draft.

I'd never draft a Bear other than their defense. He's been sitting on our WW most of the season, altho he occasionally gets picked up for a week or less.

Interesting. If he's been sitting on your WW most of the season do we really need another thread about him?

 

[cstu]

A2: Because the people that continuously whine about this also made a mistake when they picked the wrong Bears RB in their fantasy draft.

I'd never draft a Bear other than their defense. He's been sitting on our WW most of the season, altho he occasionally gets picked up for a week or less.

Yea, I hate owning Grossman

And Thomas Jones

 

[redman]

He was drafted.

[/Father Mulcahy]

 

[diesel7982]

If they cut him next preseason, how much of a salary cap hit do they take?

More than it would cost to keep him.

 

[redman]

If they cut him next preseason, how much of a salary cap hit do they take?

More than it would cost to keep him.

Rookie contracts are very cap friendly given that the bonus is amortized across many years and the base salaries are small. That's why Michael Turner's still in San Diego, and they could sit on Rivers for a couple of years without much discomfort.

 

[Biabreakable]

Answer 3: The Bears didn't know that Thomas Jones could stay healthy for an entire season as a starter at the time they drafted Benson.

 

[stanmarino13]

A4. In practise, tackling dummies dont piss off ur defensive stars like an overpaid, overdrafted runningback.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

A2: Because the people that continuously whine about this also made a mistake when they picked the wrong Bears RB in their fantasy draft.

I'd never draft a Bear other than their defense. He's been sitting on our WW most of the season, altho he occasionally gets picked up for a week or less.

Interesting. If he's been sitting on your WW most of the season do we really need another thread about him?

Actually, this wasnt really about FF. Since the Bears seem extremely reluctant to let him touch the ball even when they are way ahead, I was wondering if his days in Chicago are over.

 

[perry147]

A2: Because the people that continuously whine about this also made a mistake when they picked the wrong Bears RB in their fantasy draft.

I'd never draft a Bear other than their defense. He's been sitting on our WW most of the season, altho he occasionally gets picked up for a week or less.

Interesting. If he's been sitting on your WW most of the season do we really need another thread about him?

Actually, this wasnt really about FF. Since the Bears seem extremely reluctant to let him touch the ball even when they are way ahead, I was wondering if his days in Chicago are over.

That depends on (as others have pointed out) the cap hit the Bears would take if they cut him. I think a trade would most likely be the solution for both sides but I also do not think there will not be many (if any) teams that are willing to pay him the money left on his contract - therefore this hinders his trade ability.Benson was a stud in college but has never recover in my opinion from holding out his rookie year. It has been proven time and time again that rookies who hold out for an extended period of time have trouble and are slow adapting to the NFL.

 

[biglare66]

A5: He's really talented, but might take a few years and some additional opportunity to develop at this level. Then again, a bunch of idgets on a simpleton msg board might be smarter than the Bears front office.

You do the math.

 

[redman]

A5: He's really talented, but might take a few years and some additional opportunity to develop at this level. Then again, a bunch of idgets on a simpleton msg board might be smarter than the Bears front office.You do the math.

Curtis Enis + Anthony Thomas = How's my math?

 

[broncofan13000]

Benson should be traded to the Broncos

 

[King of the Wolfies]

Benson should be traded to the Broncos

 

[Boone22]

Benson should be traded to the Broncos

Just to motivate Tatu... Nevermind

 

[Ditka is God]

Lifelong Bears fan here. I was surprised when they drafted him because it wasn't necessarily an area of need. That said, I wasn't hugely disappointed with the pick. My take on watching him "run" now is that his confidence is shot - he seems to be very tentative when he does get the ball. He's unpopular with his teammates for several reasons, and it can't be a healthy situation for him or his teammates. That said, I can't imagine the Bears would unload him unless they got a very high draft pick in return for him. This whole mess sort of reminds me of the Dunn/Duckett sitaution, but at least the Falcons were able to find a role for Duckett as a sort yardage/goal line back.

 

[Ditka is God]

Lifelong Bears fan here. I was surprised when they drafted him because it wasn't necessarily an area of need. That said, I wasn't hugely disappointed with the pick. My take on watching him "run" now is that his confidence is shot - he seems to be very tentative when he does get the ball. He's unpopular with his teammates for several reasons, and it can't be a healthy situation for him or his teammates. That said, I can't imagine the Bears would unload him unless they got a very high draft pick in return for him. This whole mess sort of reminds me of the Dunn/Duckett sitaution, but at least the Falcons were able to find a role for Duckett as a sort yardage/goal line back.

 

[twistd]

Answer 3: The Bears didn't know that Thomas Jones could stay healthy for an entire season as a starter at the time they drafted Benson.

The other thing was that Ron Turner, the OC, prefers a power running game. He wanted a pounder and the Bears saw Benson as that type of back. They also recognize that very few backs make it through the season healthy and you need more than one solid back. The problem is that Jones has outperformed their expectations. I thought the Jones signing was a good one, but I didn't anticipate that he would turn out to be as good as he has been. Benson is immature, and has consistently shot himself in the foot. He says and does stupid things. Jones is a solid professional. The veterans clearly prefer Jones in the line up. But this could be like the tension that was created in KC, with LJ, before he got his opportunity. You may remember the diaper comment by Vermeil. If Benson gets his chance and performs well, all will be forgotten.

 

[twistd]

A5: He's really talented, but might take a few years and some additional opportunity to develop at this level. Then again, a bunch of idgets on a simpleton msg board might be smarter than the Bears front office.You do the math.

Curtis Enis + Anthony Thomas = How's my math?

Let us not forget Rashan Salaam. He was another jewel.

 

[perry147]

A5: He's really talented, but might take a few years and some additional opportunity to develop at this level. Then again, a bunch of idgets on a simpleton msg board might be smarter than the Bears front office.You do the math.

Curtis Enis + Anthony Thomas = How's my math?

Extra Credit work:Erik Kramer + Jim Harbaugh + Jim Miller = The Bear front office has not been anything to brag about in the past and with questionable picks like the Benson one I do not believe anyone will be changing their opinion about them. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

 

[redman]

Answer 3: The Bears didn't know that Thomas Jones could stay healthy for an entire season as a starter at the time they drafted Benson.

The other thing was that Ron Turner, the OC, prefers a power running game. He wanted a pounder and the Bears saw Benson as that type of back. They also recognize that very few backs make it through the season healthy and you need more than one solid back. The problem is that Jones has outperformed their expectations. I thought the Jones signing was a good one, but I didn't anticipate that he would turn out to be as good as he has been. Benson is immature, and has consistently shoot himself in the foot. He says and does stupid things. Jones is a solid professional. The veterans clearly prefer Jones in the line up. But this could be like the tension that was created in KC, with LJ, before he got his opportunity. You may remember the diaper comment by Vermeil. If Benson gets his chance and performs well, all will be forgotten.

The problem with the LJ situation in KC is that LJ never seemed to lose his mojo, and he was helped by the fact that Priest eventually went down to injury and left him the job. In addition, in LJ you have a pretty talented guy who probably outclasses Benson anyway. I own neither Benson nor Jones and have no dog in this fight, but I really don't like what I'm seeing from Benson. Frankly, I'm wondering whether he's another William Green.

 

[ericttspikes]

Thomas Jones was a #7 overall and it took him a while to gel in the NFL. I hope the Bears keep Benson. Jones is a good back, but you need two in the NFL. I'm sure Lovie can care less about people who have Benson on their fantasy roster. Some teams like to platoon backs, the Bears don't and haven't for a while.

 

[twistd]

A5: He's really talented, but might take a few years and some additional opportunity to develop at this level. Then again, a bunch of idgets on a simpleton msg board might be smarter than the Bears front office.You do the math.

Curtis Enis + Anthony Thomas = How's my math?

Extra Credit work:Erik Kramer + Jim Harbaugh + Jim Miller = The Bear front office has not been anything to brag about in the past and with questionable picks like the Benson one I do not believe anyone will be changing their opinion about them. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

The Bears front office has certainly made their share of mistakes, however they did put together a team that is 8-1. They have obviously done something right along the way.

 

[stevegamer]

Why all the A-Train bashing?

He was decent as abear, and is playing well right now as a Bill.

Certainly no Curtis Enis.

Right now Benson can't hold A-Train's jock as far as production.

 

[Gargoylez]

A5: He's really talented, but might take a few years and some additional opportunity to develop at this level. Then again, a bunch of idgets on a simpleton msg board might be smarter than the Bears front office.You do the math.

Curtis Enis + Anthony Thomas = How's my math?

Extra Credit work:Erik Kramer + Jim Harbaugh + Jim Miller = The Bear front office has not been anything to brag about in the past and with questionable picks like the Benson one I do not believe anyone will be changing their opinion about them. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

The Bears front office has certainly made their share of mistakes, however they did put together a team that is 8-1. They have obviously done something right along the way.

I was going to mention this, there eye for Defensive talent IMO is excellent. They need a new Offensive talent scout or something.... You cna pick out many more flubs on the offensive side then hits.Defense, No, they have a STACKED team there.

 

[flapgreen]

A5: He's really talented, but might take a few years and some additional opportunity to develop at this level. Then again, a bunch of idgets on a simpleton msg board might be smarter than the Bears front office.You do the math.

Curtis Enis + Anthony Thomas = How's my math?

Extra Credit work:Erik Kramer + Jim Harbaugh + Jim Miller = The Bear front office has not been anything to brag about in the past and with questionable picks like the Benson one I do not believe anyone will be changing their opinion about them. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

Get a clue guy. I could name terrible moves by every team in the NFL. Such a weak argument.

 

[pantagrapher]

A5: He's really talented, but might take a few years and some additional opportunity to develop at this level. Then again, a bunch of idgets on a simpleton msg board might be smarter than the Bears front office.

You do the math.

Curtis Enis + Anthony Thomas = How's my math?

Extra Credit work:

Erik Kramer + Jim Harbaugh + Jim Miller =

The Bear front office has not been anything to brag about in the past and with questionable picks like the Benson one I do not believe anyone will be changing their opinion about them. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

The Bears front office has certainly made their share of mistakes, however they did put together a team that is 8-1. They have obviously done something right along the way.

I was going to mention this, there eye for Defensive talent IMO is excellent. They need a new Offensive talent scout or something.... You cna pick out many more flubs on the offensive side then hits.Defense, No, they have a STACKED team there.

I think the offense they've put together is actually quite good.

 

[Power Monster]

Bears fan here and I will say that I am tickled to damn death that they have Benson here. In the NFL these days you need this type of depth. TJ is going to be the man until he gets injured or leaves this team. CB is just going to watch and learn. And NO this is not a wasted draft pick....

 

[Andrew]

Thomas Jones was a #7 overall and it took him a while to gel in the NFL escape Arizona. I hope the Bears keep Benson. Jones is a good back, but you need two in the NFL. I'm sure Lovie can care less about people who have Benson on their fantasy roster. Some teams like to platoon backs, the Bears don't and haven't for a while.

 

[redman]

Why all the A-Train bashing?

He was decent as abear, and is playing well right now as a Bill.

Certainly no Curtis Enis.

Right now Benson can't hold A-Train's jock as far as production.

 

[pantagrapher]

Why all the A-Train bashing?

He was decent as abear, and is playing well right now as a Bill.

Certainly no Curtis Enis.

Right now Benson can't hold A-Train's jock as far as production.

Bill Thomas is awesome.

 

[MarcO]

Answer 3: The Bears didn't know that Thomas Jones could stay healthy for an entire season as a starter at the time they drafted Benson.

this doesn't make any sense - if they are so concerned about Joness health then why isn't Bensen getting any carries in garbage time. If they want to see what this kid has, they have to give some playing time and they aren't doing it - despite them saying that they are going to.

 

[perry147]

Answer 3: The Bears didn't know that Thomas Jones could stay healthy for an entire season as a starter at the time they drafted Benson.

this doesn't make any sense - if they are so concerned about Joness health then why isn't Bensen getting any carries in garbage time. If they want to see what this kid has, they have to give some playing time and they aren't doing it - despite them saying that they are going to.

Have you not been watching the Bears for two years?I will give you a short synopsis.Benson was drafted to replace Jones - Benson holds out for better rookie contract - Jones starts the season as the starter instead of Benson but everyone thinks the job will be Benson's by Halloween. Jones ends up having a career year and earns the respect of his teammates with his tough play. Going into training this year everyone thought that Benson would be getting more carries maybe ever a 50/50 split. The Bears have their best start since Reagan was in office and no one ants to mess up the chemistry on this team because Benson wants to play more. What does Benson bring to the table that Jones does not in the Bears offense? Pass catching? Blocking? Qucikness? Anything at all? - THAT IS WHAT THE COACHES ARE SEEING ALSO.Benson might be a great RB but he needs to get out of the windy city in order to show what he can do.

 

[pantagrapher]

Answer 3: The Bears didn't know that Thomas Jones could stay healthy for an entire season as a starter at the time they drafted Benson.

this doesn't make any sense - if they are so concerned about Joness health then why isn't Bensen getting any carries in garbage time. If they want to see what this kid has, they have to give some playing time and they aren't doing it - despite them saying that they are going to.

It makes sense. Jones has managed to stay healthy, so Benson has been getting less work than expected. I like Benson, but he hasn't done a whole lot to merit getting more playing time.

 

[MarcO]

Answer 3: The Bears didn't know that Thomas Jones could stay healthy for an entire season as a starter at the time they drafted Benson.

this doesn't make any sense - if they are so concerned about Jones' health then why isn't Bensen getting any carries in garbage time. If they want to see what this kid has, they have to give some playing time and they aren't doing it - despite them saying that they are going to.

It makes sense. Jones has managed to stay healthy, so Benson has been getting less work than expected. I like Benson, but he hasn't done a whole lot to merit getting more playing time.

I'm not talking about stealing Jones' "primary RB" carries. If Jones is so damn important and they want to keep him healthy and rested then WHY is he in there during garbage time? Even if it is not Bensen why isn't anyone else in there? I know about all the other crap but the coaches have said they plan on using him more (obviously have gotten over the earlier distractions) and when they get the perfect opportunity, like last night, they don't use him at all.

 

[JohnnyU]

Benson might be a great RB but he needs to get out of the windy city in order to show what he can do.

Yes, and I would laugh my a-r-s-e off if that happens and Thomas Jones turns into ......., well, Thomas Jones.

 

[pantagrapher]

Answer 3: The Bears didn't know that Thomas Jones could stay healthy for an entire season as a starter at the time they drafted Benson.

this doesn't make any sense - if they are so concerned about Jones' health then why isn't Bensen getting any carries in garbage time. If they want to see what this kid has, they have to give some playing time and they aren't doing it - despite them saying that they are going to.

It makes sense. Jones has managed to stay healthy, so Benson has been getting less work than expected. I like Benson, but he hasn't done a whole lot to merit getting more playing time.

I'm not talking about stealing Jones' "primary RB" carries. If Jones is so damn important and they want to keep him healthy and rested then WHY is he in there during garbage time? Even if it is not Bensen why isn't anyone else in there? I know about all the other crap but the coaches have said they plan on using him more (obviously have gotten over the earlier distractions) and when they get the perfect opportunity, like last night, they don't use him at all.

The Bears needed to get a couple first downs to shut the door and Jones had been running with authority in the second half. It worked. The Bears D got to kick back and relax for the last 7 minutes of the game.