Why is it so quiet for Mikel Leshoure? (1 Viewer)

[3quinox]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

 

[saintfool]

he's a waiver wire player to me. i don't think he'll get much burn. he's definitely someone to scoop up in the offseason as a lottery ticket.

 

[Leonidas]

Being behind Reggie Bush and Joique Bell on a pass heavy offense certainly seems to limit upside.

With how things are right now I'd have a hard time justifying a roster spot for him except in rather deep leagues.

Now, if there were to be a medium/long term injury or suspension or out-of-nowhere trade with Reggie/Joique, or something like that...somebody who is quick on the draw ought to be grabbing him in most leagues. But unless that happens...just a guy to have on your watch list I suspect.

 

[nirad3]

I decided to hold him in a highly competitive 16-team dynasty league. I seriously doubt he'll ever overtake Bush or Bell but knowing what Lombardi usually does with RBs, he's worth stashing or keeping your eye on.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

He's a UFA after this year. Definite hold in deeper formats IMO.

 

[ShaHBucks]

David Wilson tier jk

He's reasonable. Injuries really robbed him. I just don't think anyone will fight you to roster him if isn't already.

 

[jmo87usc]

I gave a first rounder for him after his 2012 season. He looked good enough to me a year removed from Achilles surgery to take the risk. Then came Reggie and the emergence of Joique. I am still holding because his contract is up next year and hoping he signs elsewhere. Also, Reggie will most likely miss some time with injury as he usually does and Joique is nursing a bad knee. There is opportunity for Leshoure right around the corner.

I would buy him for about a 3rd rounder if you can find someone who has given up on him. But I wouldn't sell him right now because I think his value will go back up soon and no one will currently pay anything worthwhile.

 

[Sweet Love]

Been thinking about this a while...Joique has been banged up and he could provide value; but as of today, it really is a guessing game.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Does have a little upside in TD heavy leagues if Bell gets injured.

 

[EBF]

I think what makes him less intriguing than other guys who might have some similarities on paper like Michael, Pierce, and Brown is that he already got a chance to be the main guy and didn't seize it. The Lions have shown no confidence in his ability since his run as a starter in 2012. They added Bush last year and played Bell ahead of Leshoure. They then signed Bell to an extension. If they feel like Leshoure is a viable NFL contributor, their actions over the last 12-15 months sure don't show it.

To me he's just a flyer. Hold him and hope that someone kicks the tires when his contract is up.

 

[BroadwayG]

Yeah, if you believe in him, the time to buy is about week 10 or so

 

[cstu]

Not good when the coach is talking about his primary competition:

"You could really see a role with some of these guys that I wasn't as familiar with," Lombardi said. "You know, I knew what Calvin Johnson was, obviously -- or certainly had an idea. I had a lot of respect for Golden Tate. I kind of knew that was a good player.

"But there are some other guys, you know, at other skill positions that I'm pretty impressed with and excited to work with. Jeremy and Kevin Ogletree are doing some good things. Theo Riddick is a player that has some ability."

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Yeah, if you believe in him, the time to buy is about week 10 or so

Eh, not sure it really makes much difference -- he's throw in level right now. I haven't gone out of my way to get him, nor will I, but he's worth grabbing free off waivers as a RB8 or something. I did that in a few places, and if anyone really wants him, it wouldn't take much at all.

 

[saintfool]

Not good when the coach is talking about his primary competition:

"You could really see a role with some of these guys that I wasn't as familiar with," Lombardi said. "You know, I knew what Calvin Johnson was, obviously -- or certainly had an idea. I had a lot of respect for Golden Tate. I kind of knew that was a good player.

"But there are some other guys, you know, at other skill positions that I'm pretty impressed with and excited to work with. Jeremy and Kevin Ogletree are doing some good things. Theo Riddick is a player that has some ability."

Theo working hard!

 

[3quinox]

When he was given the starting gig he ran for 800 yards, nine tds and 214 rec yards. I don't think that is to bad for a rookie a year away from an ACL tear. If he put those numbers up with another team I'd have to think they would take that and build on it.

 

[msudaisy26]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

He actually torn his Achilles which is much worse. His other negatives have been being arrested with pot more than once, and he has a terrible work ethic. 2 years ago when they signed Bush he pouted and that is why Bell passed him on the depth chart. He has been counting his days until he is released so he can go to another team.

 

[saintfool]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

He actually torn his Achilles which is much worse. His other negatives have been being arrested with pot more than once, and he has a terrible work ethic. 2 years ago when they signed Bush he pouted and that is why Bell passed him on the depth chart. He has been counting his days until he is released so he can go to another team.

That much is very clear. I think he was hoping to be traded as much as anyone in FF who took a flyer on him. Now? He could be cut, I guess, and give them some cap space ($800k about according to OvertheCap). I plucked him from the waiver wire but cut him after the draft. I might look at grabbing him again if he shows anything in preseason. His opportunities in camp to distinguish himself seem few and far between.

 

[msudaisy26]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

He actually torn his Achilles which is much worse. His other negatives have been being arrested with pot more than once, and he has a terrible work ethic. 2 years ago when they signed Bush he pouted and that is why Bell passed him on the depth chart. He has been counting his days until he is released so he can go to another team.

That much is very clear. I think he was hoping to be traded as much as anyone in FF who took a flyer on him. Now? He could be cut, I guess, and give them some cap space ($800k about according to OvertheCap). I plucked him from the waiver wire but cut him after the draft. I might look at grabbing him again if he shows anything in preseason. His opportunities in camp to distinguish himself seem few and far between.

I didn't express it well but he has basically quit on the team and has been wanting his release since they signed Bush.

 

[Zyphros]

After our rookie draft he's a guy I'll likely cut to make room for new players. I liked what he did on the field in 2012 like others have mentioned it's just a lack of opportunity and he does even fit their scheme? If I have the roster space I'll try to pick him back up before he goes to a new team (hopefully for his sake).

 

[jmo87usc]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

He actually torn his Achilles which is much worse. His other negatives have been being arrested with pot more than once, and he has a terrible work ethic. 2 years ago when they signed Bush he pouted and that is why Bell passed him on the depth chart. He has been counting his days until he is released so he can go to another team.

That much is very clear. I think he was hoping to be traded as much as anyone in FF who took a flyer on him. Now? He could be cut, I guess, and give them some cap space ($800k about according to OvertheCap). I plucked him from the waiver wire but cut him after the draft. I might look at grabbing him again if he shows anything in preseason. His opportunities in camp to distinguish himself seem few and far between.

I didn't express it well but he has basically quit on the team and has been wanting his release since they signed Bush.

Are you just assuming he quit on the team or did you read something that specifically indicates that? I know signs point to it such as his demotion and trade requests, but do you know for sure? To me there is a difference between landing in the coaches doghouse and quitting the team. Once he got in the doghouse, joique took over his spot and never gave it back. Doesn't necessarily mean he quit working though. I'm just curious because he sounds somewhat motivated when he is quoted by the media, but if he is a quitter with a poor work ethic, I don't want to waste a roster spot on him. Those type of guys rarely change.

 

[FF Ninja]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

He actually torn his Achilles which is much worse. His other negatives have been being arrested with pot more than once, and he has a terrible work ethic. 2 years ago when they signed Bush he pouted and that is why Bell passed him on the depth chart. He has been counting his days until he is released so he can go to another team.

I was scrolling down to see if anyone was going to mention this. This is huge. Achilles is worse than ACL and there are different degrees of a torn achilles, IIRC. People cite his 798 yards and 214 rec yards like that is impressive. Dude did it on 215 carries and 34 receptions. He was a plodder extraordinaire on an offense that was frequently facing 6 in the box. The majority of his carries came when the game was tied or they were losing, so it's not like he was grinding out victories against stacked boxes.

At this point, I think it is safe to assume he is not worth a roster spot. I can't see him ever getting past RB3 on a depth chart, much less becoming relevant in 12-team leagues. The achilles injury and/or work ethic seems to have done him in. It's a shame. I was planning on grabbing him before injury his rookie year when the Jahvid Best hype was going to depress his value.

 

[msudaisy26]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

He actually torn his Achilles which is much worse. His other negatives have been being arrested with pot more than once, and he has a terrible work ethic. 2 years ago when they signed Bush he pouted and that is why Bell passed him on the depth chart. He has been counting his days until he is released so he can go to another team.

That much is very clear. I think he was hoping to be traded as much as anyone in FF who took a flyer on him. Now? He could be cut, I guess, and give them some cap space ($800k about according to OvertheCap). I plucked him from the waiver wire but cut him after the draft. I might look at grabbing him again if he shows anything in preseason. His opportunities in camp to distinguish himself seem few and far between.

I didn't express it well but he has basically quit on the team and has been wanting his release since they signed Bush.

Are you just assuming he quit on the team or did you read something that specifically indicates that? I know signs point to it such as his demotion and trade requests, but do you know for sure? To me there is a difference between landing in the coaches doghouse and quitting the team. Once he got in the doghouse, joique took over his spot and never gave it back. Doesn't necessarily mean he quit working though. I'm just curious because he sounds somewhat motivated when he is quoted by the media, but if he is a quitter with a poor work ethic, I don't want to waste a roster spot on him. Those type of guys rarely change.

Unfortunately I heard this and read it 2 years ago when they signed Bush. I have no idea where to look for it. I remember the details though. A Lions insider was on the radio saying watch out for this Joique Bell kid and the hosts were like you mean if Bush or Leshoure gets hurt? The guy said no that Bell was well on his way to taking Leshoure's job because Leshoure was upset at the Bush signing. Leshoure wanted to be a 3 down back and he was giving half effort in camp, and OTA's. add to the fact he got arrested at least once, I think it was twice, that off season for pot and he is a guy you want no part of. If you are going to stash a Lion back in case of injury I would say Riddick is the guy to stash not Leshoure.

 

[johnadams]

I got Leshoure stashed in a dynasty league that doesn't draft until week three of preseason. At this point, he's the first cut to make room for rookies. Seems about the right spot for him.

 

[saintfool]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

He actually torn his Achilles which is much worse. His other negatives have been being arrested with pot more than once, and he has a terrible work ethic. 2 years ago when they signed Bush he pouted and that is why Bell passed him on the depth chart. He has been counting his days until he is released so he can go to another team.

That much is very clear. I think he was hoping to be traded as much as anyone in FF who took a flyer on him. Now? He could be cut, I guess, and give them some cap space ($800k about according to OvertheCap). I plucked him from the waiver wire but cut him after the draft. I might look at grabbing him again if he shows anything in preseason. His opportunities in camp to distinguish himself seem few and far between.

I didn't express it well but he has basically quit on the team and has been wanting his release since they signed Bush.

i think you explained it just fine. he wanted to be the starting RB for the Lions and for a few reasons was passed over by the coaches by arguably the better back in Bush. He sulked, lost his place behind Bell and has remained in the doghouse since. In that time he's talked about how he just wants to contribute to the team but i have to think it is just lipservice. he'd like to be on another team - playing for Schwartz sucked for him and he hoped the new regime would do something different - but that's not up to him. he can bide his time, finish his contract and hope for a shot elsewhere but i'm not confident that a guy who hasn't seen signifcant action in 3 years a hot commodity. his best chance is to show himself in the preseason games and hope he gets cut. there are other "reclamation" projects out there - Gerhart, for example, but for different reasons - but the likelihood is pretty slim.

 

[nirad3]

The kid ran for 789 yards and nine TDs a year after a torn ACL. He was a second round pick and has obvious talent. The only negative is the crowded depth they have at RB, but with Joe Lombardi from NO as offensive coordinator, he may be in a rotation. What do you guys think of him in dynasty? It's also the last year of his rookie contract.

(So far he is getting extended reps in OTAs as bell is nursing an injury)

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Mikel-Leshoure-taking-full-advantage-of-extra-practice-reps/0671ec20-f48e-457a-9bd5-a05548790845

He actually torn his Achilles which is much worse. His other negatives have been being arrested with pot more than once, and he has a terrible work ethic. 2 years ago when they signed Bush he pouted and that is why Bell passed him on the depth chart. He has been counting his days until he is released so he can go to another team.

I was scrolling down to see if anyone was going to mention this. This is huge. Achilles is worse than ACL and there are different degrees of a torn achilles, IIRC. People cite his 798 yards and 214 rec yards like that is impressive. Dude did it on 215 carries and 34 receptions. He was a plodder extraordinaire on an offense that was frequently facing 6 in the box. The majority of his carries came when the game was tied or they were losing, so it's not like he was grinding out victories against stacked boxes.

At this point, I think it is safe to assume he is not worth a roster spot. I can't see him ever getting past RB3 on a depth chart, much less becoming relevant in 12-team leagues. The achilles injury and/or work ethic seems to have done him in. It's a shame. I was planning on grabbing him before injury his rookie year when the Jahvid Best hype was going to depress his value.

Correct, and I only know this because I experienced a full rupture (type 4, the worst you can get).

http://radiopaedia.org/articles/achilles-tendon-tear-classification-2

Not sure what type LeShoure had.

From someone I know/trust: http://www.thelionsinwinter.com/2011/08/lies-damned-lies-mikel-leshoures-career.html

 

[domvin]

Yeah, if you believe in him, the time to buy is about week 10 or so

This

 

[loose circuits]

traded Andrew Hawkins for him. I am not in a position to compete this year anyway. Maybe I'm a sucker, but the dude just turned 24 and sounds like they are approaching the situation with a clean slate.

 

[loose circuits]

Detroit Lions tailback Mikel Leshoure got just two carries last season, which means there's pretty much no where to go but up.

And he anticipates that's exactly what's going to happen.

"I can't tell you (what my role will be) during OTAs, but it looks like I'll be involved a little more that last year so far," Leshoure told Kyle Meinke of Mlive this week. "As far as the role, I don't know. That could change weekly. But I think I'll be more involved than last year obviously."

Leshoure was drafted in the second round by the Lions in 2011 and was the team's leading rusher in 2012. But he fell out of favor last year following the signing of Reggie Bush emergence of Joique Bell, and even the sixth-round selection of Theo Riddick.

He is hoping a new staff with a fresh approach -- one noted for its use of multiple tailbacks -- will spur his return to the lineup.

"It's a new beginning," he said. "It's a lot of running plays. (Coordinator Joe Lombardi) comes from New Orleans, where backs rotated a lot. We know we're going to run the ball here, and I'm excited by the opportunity."

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/42934/Mikel-Leshoure-expects-to-be-more-involved-in-Lions-offense/Default.aspx

 

[loose circuits]

(KFFL) Detroit Lions RB Mikel Leshoure expects to have a bigger role in the offense than he did last season. Leshoure has altered his diet, arriving at camp leaner, which he feels has given him some extra pop.

 

[Eminence]

I really like Leshoure. Bush has never been the model of health and the new OC likes to use multiple backs. Excited to see where he lands next year.

 

[JFS171]

Dave Birkett‏@davebirkett2h

Mikel Leshoure, who was waived by the #Lions on Saturday, is scheduled to visit the Indianapolis Colts. Former second-round pick.