Why is the trend moving away from RB-RB in the first two rounds? (1 Viewer)

[The Goose is Loose]

For years it seemed that everyone would draft RB-RB in the first two rounds because they were so valuable. Over the past couple of years it seems the shift has been to draft RB-WR or WR-RB in the first two rounds (sprinkled with some QB's as well).

With this new trend, what I see happening is RB13-RB16 falling to the end of the second round and into the third while everyone panics to make sure they draft their WR1.

Looking at the rankings, it appears that with all the RBBC, the RB's really fall off around RB18 and you'll be looking at guys like Pierre Thomas, Marshawn, Moreno as your RB2. These guys all have big question marks.

On the WR side, there appears to be more depth. WR20-WR30 all seem very serviceable.

So, my question is, is it time to go RB-RB again and forget targeting a "stud" WR with one of your first two picks and draft a guy like Jacobs or Portis in the 2nd round and then fill in WR with lower tier guys?

 

[fruity pebbles]

depends on the scoring.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Supply and demand.

This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

 

[Andy Herron]

I moved away from that trend 3 years ago and have totally dominated my leagues ever since.

I've been waiting for everybody to catch up!

You've got to see it before it takes, that's all I can say.

 

[whodeywhodey]

I think the increased prevalence of PPR leagues has influenced this greatly. About 5 years ago PPR leagues weren't nearly as popular as they are today.

 

[pantherclub]

The past 2 years i have gone WR-WR and won money both times (winning the whole shebang is luck at the end). By going wr-wr you are basically guarenteed 2 stud wideouts and then in rounds 3-7 you are picking up rb's that have dropped because the rest of the league are scrambling for WR's. By my math only 40% of the rb's ranked preseason top 10 finish there so why waste a pick when there are a ton of serviceable backs from rounds 4 and on.

 

[Manster]

I think the increased prevalence of PPR leagues has influenced this greatly. About 5 years ago PPR leagues weren't nearly as popular as they are today.

exactly. ppr is a great equalizer

 

[The Jerk]

Supply and demand.This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

I absolutely agree that the dropoff after 8 or so WRs is severe, but I believe the trend away from RBs is also a function of the high bust rate for RB1s compared to WR1s over the past several seasons.

 

[Andy Herron]

The past 2 years i have gone WR-WR and won money both times (winning the whole shebang is luck at the end). By going wr-wr you are basically guarenteed 2 stud wideouts and then in rounds 3-7 you are picking up rb's that have dropped because the rest of the league are scrambling for WR's. By my math only 40% of the rb's ranked preseason top 10 finish there so why waste a pick when there are a ton of serviceable backs from rounds 4 and on.

There you go. Plain and simple.

 

[The Goose is Loose]

Supply and demand.This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

I don't really see the RB value in rounds 3/4. Looking at the PPR ADP, the RB's projected to go in rounds 3/4 are:28 Ronnie Brown MIA RB 32 Kevin Smith DET RB33 Ryan Grant GB RB 34 Pierre Thomas NO RB38 Reggie Bush NO RB 39 Darren McFaddenOAK RB46 Marshawn Lynch BUF RB 49 Thomas Jones NYJ RB Outside of Kevin Smith and maybe Ronnie Brown, I wouldn't be comfortable starting any of these guys as my RB2. Personally, I think with everyone going crazy for WR's early, the value is grabbing a second RB early and wait for WR's while everyone is drafting their RB2-RB4.

 

[moneyman]

RB2 production is fairly easy to grab during the year on the WW as long as I stay on top of news. Injuries to such an injury prone position change opportunity by huge margins and do so frequently.

It's not so clear cut for WR and I have a heck of a time getting good production from emerging WW guys.

You only get 1 shot at getting great WRs IMO. That's early in the draft.

 

[backno]

I agree with what the above guys have said, after the top 8 WRs there is a big drop. In my office league I could have grabbed MJD with the last pick of our suplemental draft (6th of 6) but went with A.Johnson and R. Moss because the point difference those 2 will put out will more then make up for what my RBs lack ( Grant, Rice, D. Brown).

 

[IHEARTFF]

Supply and demand.This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

I don't really see the RB value in rounds 3/4. Looking at the PPR ADP, the RB's projected to go in rounds 3/4 are:28 Ronnie Brown MIA RB 32 Kevin Smith DET RB33 Ryan Grant GB RB 34 Pierre Thomas NO RB38 Reggie Bush NO RB 39 Darren McFaddenOAK RB46 Marshawn Lynch BUF RB 49 Thomas Jones NYJ RB Outside of Kevin Smith and maybe Ronnie Brown, I wouldn't be comfortable starting any of these guys as my RB2. Personally, I think with everyone going crazy for WR's early, the value is grabbing a second RB early and wait for WR's while everyone is drafting their RB2-RB4.

I strongly disagree. Grant, R Bush, or Lynch as a 2 is very good. The only guy there who I really wouldn't want is T Jones.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Supply and demand.This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

I don't really see the RB value in rounds 3/4. Looking at the PPR ADP, the RB's projected to go in rounds 3/4 are:28 Ronnie Brown MIA RB 32 Kevin Smith DET RB33 Ryan Grant GB RB 34 Pierre Thomas NO RB38 Reggie Bush NO RB 39 Darren McFaddenOAK RB46 Marshawn Lynch BUF RB 49 Thomas Jones NYJ RB Outside of Kevin Smith and maybe Ronnie Brown, I wouldn't be comfortable starting any of these guys as my RB2. Personally, I think with everyone going crazy for WR's early, the value is grabbing a second RB early and wait for WR's while everyone is drafting their RB2-RB4.

I'm liking my chances more with a top 3 of DeAngelo/Roddy White/Ryan Grant vs DeAngelo/Marion Barber/Wes Welker, but that's just me

 

[texasbirdfan]

let's make it simple:

the increase of RBBC

 

[Doug B]

let's make it simple:the increase of RBBC

RBBC in the real-life NFL is what's driving this. Before, there were roughly 15 or so RBs in the league that stayed on the field most downs and didn't share many carries. Now, there's very few guys like this ... if you are bent on going RB-RB and you're picking 11 out of 12, you're likely going to be drafting two RBBC guys.The popularity of PPR is also a factor ... used to be, you wouldn't mind that Brandon Jacobs shares touches because of all his TDs. But now, elite WRs make up that scoring gap with PPR numbers.

 

[Sebowski]

Supply and demand.

This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

Colston down?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Supply and demand.

This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

Colston down?

About 2-4 games a year he is

 

[PinkydaPimp]

You can't go into a draft saying I'm going to draft rb rb or wr wr. You need to simply adjust as the draft goes. If the top tier of rbs goes, grab a wr. If the value still isn't there at), grab another wr. If it is, go rb. Draft for value. One rule that I try to follow is not following runs, but starting them. You draft that 2nd wr and people will follow. Then, your rb value will present itself. And hey if wrs fly off the board early, grab rbs!

 

[dparker713]

Supply and demand.

This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

Colston down?

About 2-4 games a year he is

I'd include Boldin too.

 

[NinerK]

Supply and demand.This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

WINNER!I reviewed our draft last year and it was exactly RB/WR or WR/RB.....if you took one in R1 you took the other in R2. I expect more of the same this year.

 

[hauser42]

I moved away from that trend 3 years ago and have totally dominated my leagues ever since. I've been waiting for everybody to catch up! :footballYou've got to see it before it takes, that's all I can say.

Same boat and waiting for the dinosoars to catch on. RBBC has seen the WR value increase, but I see the NFL more of a passing league at this point. Rule changes have protected the QB and allowed the WR more room to roam. IF you play in PPR that has also increased WR value.I play in a distance scoring leagues and the reality is the QBs and WRs have a lot more value than most leagues. But still guys go RB-RB and have even seem guys take 3 RBs in the first 5 rounds.

 

[Breesisdaman]

I was able to get Forte in the first round and Steven Jackson in the second round because others in my league were going QB-RB or WR-RB. I had the 9th pick. Two backs who are not stuck in RBBC what a luxury.

 

[jurrassic]

I was able to get Forte in the first round and Steven Jackson in the second round because others in my league were going QB-RB or WR-RB. I had the 9th pick. Two backs who are not stuck in RBBC what a luxury.

I did the same thing. I have LT and C Johnson. I'd rather pair those 2 with Bowe, Housh, and Royal

 

[JohnnyU]

Combination of more PPR leagues and more RBBC

 

[UnknownCoach]

Two reasons.

1. PPR leagues are far more popular nowadays.

2. The more widely known and used the RB RB strategy became, other strategies became more viable. Following a herd will make you feel safe but it will also limit your opportunities. RB RB worked great when the league newbies picked a QB in round one and a kicker in round 5 and all the other vets also went RB RB. Now, anybody can click on a popularity produced cheat sheet online in the middle of their draft.

 

[tombonneau]

You can't go into a draft saying I'm going to draft rb rb or wr wr. You need to simply adjust as the draft goes. If the top tier of rbs goes, grab a wr. If the value still isn't there at), grab another wr. If it is, go rb. Draft for value. One rule that I try to follow is not following runs, but starting them. You draft that 2nd wr and people will follow. Then, your rb value will present itself. And hey if wrs fly off the board early, grab rbs!

I went into my 14-team draft picking 4th, thinking based on mocks and ADP that I'd go RB-WR-WR-RB, then Manning fell to me in 2, so I ended up going RB-QB-WR-WR-RB and my team is much better for it. Taking the QB early allowed me to spend mid-round picks that I'd spend on my QBBC guys instead on solid RB/WR backups. All about what the draft gives you ...

 

[jurrassic]

I take the best talent on the board. I would go rb/rb/qb if they were the best players there. I am not going to pass on Rodgers or manning to take housh or Roy Williams

 

[deadRED]

This is an interesting topic. Our league has been PPR for 10 seasons.

I always end up going RB RB. My thinking has always been to grab 2 rb's that are going to catch the ball and it

puts you one up on some of the other owners. For instance, i'm not a big B.Jacobs fan in our scoring system.

I'd rather grab a good rb in first and then end up with a R.Bush,R.Rice,etc.

I can't bring myself to grab a qb early either. I figure i can get value later. Mcnabb, Ryan, Palmer, etc.

I may rethink things this year though. I may be able to grab a top wr and still land a Ray Rice, Bush, later on.

Not sure.

I'd appreciate some more input from people who like grabbing a WR1 rather than RB RB.

thanks.

 

[Ilov80s]

I was able to get Forte in the first round and Steven Jackson in the second round because others in my league were going QB-RB or WR-RB. I had the 9th pick. Two backs who are not stuck in RBBC what a luxury.

I always have gone RB- WR as you can get 2 studs that way instead of 1 stud and 1 so-so RB. It worked because most of the league was scrambling for 2 RBs. This year nobody went RB-RB and WRs/QBs were going suspiciously early, I've never done it before, but took 3 RBs with my first 3 picks. There was just to much value there to pass up on Williams, Portis, and KSmith.

 

[Genedoc]

1) PPR was an adaptation to the grotesque over valuation of RBs in the early days of fantasy football. When someone is drafting RB23 before QB1, something is wrong with the intent of the scoring.

2) You look at every RB not named Adrian Peterson, and there are question marks. MJD has never done it for a full season. Neither has Matt Forte. LT2 is 30+ years old and declining. DeAngelo Williams faces a brutal schedule. Michael Turner is coming off an ungodly work load. Many coaches are moving toward RBBC. Meanwhile, Moss and Fitzgerald are rock solid locks.

We play in a 0.5 point/catch league to try and strike a balance. I have the #3 pick (10 team league) in a draft tomorrow night. I'm very seriously considering Moss or Fitzgerald, and then two of Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Ryan Grant at the turn. I'd rather roll with Grant, Moss, Steve Smith than Michael Turner, Reggie Wayne, and Roddy White.

 

[Genedoc]

I was able to get Forte in the first round and Steven Jackson in the second round because others in my league were going QB-RB or WR-RB. I had the 9th pick. Two backs who are not stuck in RBBC what a luxury.

I always have gone RB- WR as you can get 2 studs that way instead of 1 stud and 1 so-so RB. It worked because most of the league was scrambling for 2 RBs. This year nobody went RB-RB and WRs/QBs were going suspiciously early, I've never done it before, but took 3 RBs with my first 3 picks. There was just to much value there to pass up on Williams, Portis, and KSmith.

I think Portis and KSmith are huge question marks.

 

[Native]

1) PPR was an adaptation to the grotesque over valuation of RBs in the early days of fantasy football. When someone is drafting RB23 before QB1, something is wrong with the intent of the scoring. 2) You look at every RB not named Adrian Peterson, and there are question marks. MJD has never done it for a full season. Neither has Matt Forte. LT2 is 30+ years old and declining. DeAngelo Williams faces a brutal schedule. Michael Turner is coming off an ungodly work load. Many coaches are moving toward RBBC. Meanwhile, Moss and Fitzgerald are rock solid locks. We play in a 0.5 point/catch league to try and strike a balance. I have the #3 pick (10 team league) in a draft tomorrow night. I'm very seriously considering Moss or Fitzgerald, and then two of Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Ryan Grant at the turn. I'd rather roll with Grant, Moss, Steve Smith than Michael Turner, Reggie Wayne, and Roddy White.

 

[ddog9876]

I would add that RB1 is always available on the waiver wire if only for a few games (P. Thomas, Mo Moore, D. Ward, etc). Many times this occurs during playoff time for several reasons but you all know that.

WR1 is never ever available on the waiver wire.

Enough said.

 

[David Yudkin]

I've gone LT/Westbrook this year and would do so again if that combo presented itself. As others have said, if the right guys are there to go RB-RB then do it, if not, go in another direction.

 

[David Yudkin]

I would add that RB1 is always available on the waiver wire if only for a few games (P. Thomas, Mo Moore, D. Ward, etc). Many times this occurs during playoff time for several reasons but you all know that.WR1 is never ever available on the waiver wire. Enough said.

So guys like Antonio Bryant, Eddie Royal, Marques Colston, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Brandon Marshall, Lance Moore, Bobby Engram, Vincent Jackson, etc. were all drafted in the past couple of years before they had breakout years? None of them were free agent fantasy pickups?

 

[fozzy fosbourne]

I skipped fantasy football last year, and yeah, I'm kind of surprised by the way WRs are flying off the board in mock drafts this year. Both in the beginning and middle rounds.

Maybe I am misremembering things, but it seemed like a popular strategy a few years ago was to even go RB-RB-RB if you saw value still in the third, just to make sure you had at least two solid RBs and could possibly pawn one off to the guy who's season is in jeopardy if you ended up with three solid backs. And people were terrified of ending up with a bunch of question marks at RB2. Now I'm seeing in mocks of 12 teamers at least 1-3 teams that are really having me scratch my head.. last mock I did had a team with Barber/White/F. Jones/Washington as the RBs, a team with Addai/Ward/Stewart/Mclain as the backs, and a team with Rice/McFadden/LJ as the backs. I think the third team pulled it off but the first two teams not so much. And LJ being there when the third team picked was excruciating but I already had 3 backs by then.

Seems like this is a high risk/reward strategy and people comment that as long as you pick up guys off the wire you can end up with a great RB2, but isn't everyone looking to get that RB2 off the wire in a competitive league, whether they have a solid RB core or not? I'm not going to hang onto Fred Taylor just because I feel solid at RB if I see something on the wire. This might fly in leagues where you can ambulance chase and stuff but usually everyone is filing a waiver claim on those types of guys in my leagues.

The other thing I have noticed, that seems to reinforce the RB delaying greatly and make drafting alot more volatile this season is the middle tier WR run that follows shortly after the top guys. Doesn't happen every Mock, but sometimes there's a flood of pretty unremarkable receivers coming off the board in rounds 3-5 just because everyone is freaking out since about 8-10 receivers are already gone in rounds 1 & 2. This keeps a few RBs on the board after the first few rounds for the bold teams to scoop up. And it makes things more volatile because who knows when the run ends, sometimes it's crazy and people are tripping over each other to draft guys like Vincent Jackson in the third. Then you see RB value still out there in the third or fourth but have to worry about going into the season with Braylon Edwards or Eddie Royal as your WR 1. Doesn't happen every draft but when it does it can turn the draft on it's head and seems to give those guys who went WR early a great shot at getting that RB committee in rounds 3-5.

So yeah, maybe this would be less remarkable to me if I played last season, but definitely feels different mock drafting this season than seasons 2+ yrs ago.

 

[Finless]

Sharks don't ask questions like this.

 

[The Goose is Loose]

I would add that RB1 is always available on the waiver wire if only for a few games (P. Thomas, Mo Moore, D. Ward, etc). Many times this occurs during playoff time for several reasons but you all know that.WR1 is never ever available on the waiver wire. Enough said.

I picked up Antonio Bryant off the WW last year and he finished as the 9th WR in my league. Lance Moore finished as WR14 and he was also a WW pickup.

 

[The Goose is Loose]

Sharks don't ask questions like this.

I should have probably used a different subject for this thread.I understand why people go RB-WR in the first two rounds and I have been doing it for years with much success. But now that everyone has caught on to this trend, I'm thinking that it might be a better plan to go RB-RB if the value is there while everyone scrambles for WR's.I'm picking 3rd in my 12 person PPR league. There's a chance that the top 8 or 9 WR's will be gone by the time I'm picking in the 2nd round. So I could be left with choosing between Bowe/Colston or a Jacobs/Portis type RB. I think the value might be going with the RB and then stocking up on WR's with the next couple of picks.

 

[j ViLLA x PE]

Supply and demand.This year, RB outside the top 4 or 5 is kind of a mess, but there's 8 clear cut WR1's. (Fitz, Calvin, Andre, Moss, SSmith, R White, Wayne, Jennings). Since there's still some good RB value in rounds 3/4, you don't want to be one of the teams that doesn't get at least one of those 8 WRs.

This is true, but it kinda makes me laugh....in PPR leagues last year, it was #2 WR's that were putting up more production than #1 WRs. i.e. Housh over Chad Johnson, Greg Jennings over Donald Driver, Santonio over Hines, Jericho over Coles.For some reason, i can see this happening this year on some teams.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Looking at the rankings, it appears that with all the RBBC, the RB's really fall off around RB18 and you'll be looking at guys like Pierre Thomas, Marshawn, Moreno as your RB2. These guys all have big question marks.

They also have nice upside. I see question marks attached to many of the first round/early second round backs this year as well. To turn your argument around, wouldn't you feel better starting Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgeral or Andre Johnson over Dwayne Bowe or Wes Welker?There's give and take in a draft and you can win taking any approach as long as you end up taking the "right" players.

 

[jon_mx]

I probably should have gone RB-RB this year. I always like to buck the trend. In years past, I would end up with a top stud at QB and/or WR. For instance, I had Brady and Manning/Harrison when they had their monster years to carry me easily into the playoff. This year, going RB-RB could makes the most sense as some stud RB's falls a bit after people gobble up WR's and QB's. I think in years past, people over-emphasized RB leaving the top studs at QB and WR well into round 2.

 

[prgromek]

I think RB-RB is a solid strategy even in a PPR if you can get 2 RBs who catch the ball (Gore/Slaton). 90+ receptions from your 2 RBs puts you ahead of the game. The herd has caught on to grabbing WRs early so RB value is slipping.

 

[ddog9876]

I would add that RB1 is always available on the waiver wire if only for a few games (P. Thomas, Mo Moore, D. Ward, etc). Many times this occurs during playoff time for several reasons but you all know that.WR1 is never ever available on the waiver wire. Enough said.

So guys like Antonio Bryant, Eddie Royal, Marques Colston, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Brandon Marshall, Lance Moore, Bobby Engram, Vincent Jackson, etc. were all drafted in the past couple of years before they had breakout years? None of them were free agent fantasy pickups?

I don't mind if you don't get it - none of the owners in my league do either - that's the league that I've won 2 yrs in a row with virtually an all Free Agent RB lineup come playoff time and stud WR1's that I did draft.

 

[p00h]

I was able to get Forte in the first round and Steven Jackson in the second round because others in my league were going QB-RB or WR-RB. I had the 9th pick. Two backs who are not stuck in RBBC what a luxury.

I did the same thing. I have LT and C Johnson. I'd rather pair those 2 with Bowe, Housh, and Royal

got LT and Gore out of the 10 slot of a 12 team league. It is a qb heavy league in terms of scoring, but still very happy with this combo. Followed that up with Jennings/Bowe, and picked up Cutler in like the 8th. Very very happy with this, but as others have stated, going in with a rb/rb or rb/wr or whatever strategy is detrimental to your overall draft. Gotta be fluid and roll with the punches as they develop in front of you. I could very easily have gone brady/moss if the things fell a certain way, and would have still liked my chances...

 

[Cenobite]

I would add that RB1 is always available on the waiver wire if only for a few games (P. Thomas, Mo Moore, D. Ward, etc). Many times this occurs during playoff time for several reasons but you all know that.WR1 is never ever available on the waiver wire. Enough said.

So guys like Antonio Bryant, Eddie Royal, Marques Colston, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Brandon Marshall, Lance Moore, Bobby Engram, Vincent Jackson, etc. were all drafted in the past couple of years before they had breakout years? None of them were free agent fantasy pickups?

I don't mind if you don't get it - none of the owners in my league do either - that's the league that I've won 2 yrs in a row with virtually an all Free Agent RB lineup come playoff time and stud WR1's that I did draft.

All of the players mentioned above were drafted in my 14 team last year. You are combining different "sleeper" years for these players (2006 -2008). Sure, every year there is a player nobody drafted that cracks the top 10 or 20 but it is very rare if there are 2-3 at the same skill position. Slaton last year did it in my league. I agree that the fist two tiers at the WR spot are safer picks. However, if you have a strong feeling that 2 RBs who will finish in the top 8 will fall to you in the 1st & 2nd round, then you HAVE to take them.

 

[p00h]

I would add that RB1 is always available on the waiver wire if only for a few games (P. Thomas, Mo Moore, D. Ward, etc). Many times this occurs during playoff time for several reasons but you all know that.WR1 is never ever available on the waiver wire. Enough said.

Terribly ignorant statement...

 

[David Yudkin]

I would add that RB1 is always available on the waiver wire if only for a few games (P. Thomas, Mo Moore, D. Ward, etc). Many times this occurs during playoff time for several reasons but you all know that.WR1 is never ever available on the waiver wire. Enough said.

So guys like Antonio Bryant, Eddie Royal, Marques Colston, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Brandon Marshall, Lance Moore, Bobby Engram, Vincent Jackson, etc. were all drafted in the past couple of years before they had breakout years? None of them were free agent fantasy pickups?

I don't mind if you don't get it - none of the owners in my league do either - that's the league that I've won 2 yrs in a row with virtually an all Free Agent RB lineup come playoff time and stud WR1's that I did draft.

LOL at things I don't get. I won league titles starting guys like Nick Goings and Marcel Shipp before. I've even written articles on the fact that in recent seasons 40-50% of NFL teams will have a different primary fantasy scorer at RB from Week 1 vs. the fantasy playoffs. I'm not disagreeing with you on the RB side of things, but I am disagreeing with you that you can't find WR help off the waiver wire.

 

[schooner44]

There's 2 reasons:

1) I think its a situation where the usage in the NFL for RBs is different than it was 5 years ago. Years ago, the only teams that used RBBC were ones that didn't have a RB good enough to be a featured back but now teams are going with RBBC for stamina & health reasons. Due to the fact that there are more RBs getting less carries/touches, the pool of RBs is greater in number than it was in previous years. For example, in Dallas they have MBIII and Felix Jones where both RBs will get their touches and both will produce fantasy points so rather than 1 viable RB from the team, there are now 2.

2) Rules have changed significantly helping WRs and their ability to get open and make catches thus making WRs a little more valuable than they were previously.