Why no Ryan Mathews love...? (1 Viewer)

[TheDirtyWord]

I almost feel as if the 2012 season still gets held against him when he wound up breaking both collarbones. But all Mathews has done during his last 3 seasons in the NFL, which included the aforementioned 2012 season is put up an average of 94 YFS/game with 14 TD's.

I get that his TD production has been low, but it feels like McCoy doesn't have the issues with Mathews inside the 5 that Turner did.

In addition, his last 11 games last season, he put up 1144 YFS and 6 TD's. I don't know if people are scared off by the acquisition of Donald Brown, but from a siphoning perspective, he stands as much chance as affecting Woodhead's workload as Mathews while assuming the small workload Ronnie Brown had last year.

Lastly, there are 7 RB's in 2014 who in 2013 had 300 touches and are with the same team.

Jamaal Charles

LeSean McCoy

Matt Forte

Adrian Peterson

Eddie Lacy

Marshawn Lynch

...the 7th?

Ryan Mathews. Yet right now, on FFC, Mathews is RB21. Bishop Sankey is RB23.

I don't get it.

 

[flapgreen]

Seems to be undervalued

 

[SameSongNDance]

Price tag seems about right in PPR, in standard I agree he's a bit undervalued.

 

[Raider Nation]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

 

[steelerfan1]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

with RN on this 1. even though it is crazy it still is in the mind. I literally started to peel Mathews sticker and then started with a nervous tick and went with gore instead. kind of regretting now, but again, just don't trust him/

 

[Raider Nation]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

They do. Absolutely.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

On a side note, I've seen a number of articles saying that Mathews was finally healthy all season in 2013.

No he wasn't. He played at least a few snaps in every game, so his "games played" stat looks good, but he was not healthy all year. He left in the second quarter with a concussion in week five. He didn't play in the second half in week nine. He played with a bum ankle late in the season that finally caused him to leave in the third quarter vs. the Bengals in the playoffs, and early in the second quarter the next week against the Broncos.

He had a good year, but he did not stay healthy.

That said, at this point, I do not consider Mathews to be any more injury prone than most other RBs. The collar bones were just bad luck, Before that, early in his career, he took himself out a lot rather than playing through pain. Last year, though, he played through his injuries for the most part. He seems to have gotten tougher. If he can avoid more bad luck, he could be in for a very nice fantasy season.

 

[Ilov80s]

He is 26, he was the 12th pick in the draft, he passes the eye test, he is the GL back, he catches the ball, has a career 4.4 ypc and has finished as an RB1 in 2 of the last 3 years. He is coming into the year healthy. He finished last year really strong. Over the 2nd half of the year he posted 900 yards and 5 TDs. If the name was anything other than Ryan Matthews, he would be a mid second round pick at worst.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

he is the GL back

He might be this season, but he never has been. It was Mike Tolbert in 2010 and 2011, Jackie Battle in 2012, and Danny Woodhead in 2013.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Remember when Mathews caught 50 in 2011? I wish they still utilized him like that.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Shhhhh

 

[Ilov80s]

he is the GL back

He might be this season, but he never has been. It was Mike Tolbert in 2010 and 2011, Jackie Battle in 2012, and Danny Woodhead in 2013.

This year, it appears as if he will be. They will use Woodhead there sometimes for sure, but it sounds like they plan to give Matthews a fair amount of GL work.

 

[shadyridr]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

so youre basically saying he should be going one round earlier than hes going

 

[shadyridr]

He is 26, he was the 12th pick in the draft, he passes the eye test, he is the GL back, he catches the ball, has a career 4.4 ypc and has finished as an RB1 in 2 of the last 3 years. He is coming into the year healthy. He finished last year really strong. Over the 2nd half of the year he posted 900 yards and 5 TDs. If the name was anything other than Ryan Matthews, he would be a mid second round pick at worst.

he is the GL back unless he starts fumbling again. Woodhead now catches the ball. Hes very injury prone. All the things you are saying is why he was a top 4 pick in 2012 before breaking his collarbone and that year was an absolute debacle. Look, i like him alot this year too. Imo hes the guy you target as your RB1 if you are going WR/WR, Graham/WR, or WR/QB. But you cant just ignore his history. I think i will reach for him in the third depending whats left.

 

[RBM]

he is the GL back

He might be this season, but he never has been. It was Mike Tolbert in 2010 and 2011, Jackie Battle in 2012, and Danny Woodhead in 2013.

Woodhead was for first half but I'd say Mathews was more toward the end of the season.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

so youre basically saying he should be going one round earlier than hes going

Well, let's put it this way. What's the difference between him and Le'veon Bell?

 

[shadyridr]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

so youre basically saying he should be going one round earlier than hes going

Well, let's put it this way. What's the difference between him and Le'veon Bell?

his injury history and bell is likely the third down back

 

[SameSongNDance]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

so youre basically saying he should be going one round earlier than hes going

Well, let's put it this way. What's the difference between him and Le'veon Bell?

~30 receptions IMO.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

he is the GL back

He might be this season, but he never has been. It was Mike Tolbert in 2010 and 2011, Jackie Battle in 2012, and Danny Woodhead in 2013.

This year, it appears as if he will be. They will use Woodhead there sometimes for sure, but it sounds like they plan to give Matthews a fair amount of GL work.

They should. Mathews has been effective. Last year, he scored 4 times on 7 touches inside the five. (Woodhead scored 3 times on 11 touches.)

In 2011, Mathews scored 4 times on just 5 touches inside the five.

But Mathews has been underused in various ways his whole career, so who knows?

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

so youre basically saying he should be going one round earlier than hes going

Well, let's put it this way. What's the difference between him and Le'veon Bell?

~30 receptions IMO.

But at the same time, Blount looks like he could vulture some TD's while Mathews seems like a better bet insider the 5 on a more consistent basis. And Mathews has a career YPC of 4.4 which is inclusive of his 3.8 YPC during his injury plagued year, while Bell sported a 3.5 last year. Bell can certainly improve on 3.5, but Mathews could do the same with his 4.4 YPC of last year (in 2011, he sported a 4.9 YPC). And as far as being a pass catcher, Mathews has shown proficiency in this area in his career previously. It simply wasn't taken advantage of as much in 2013. But we're not talking Alfred Morris or Michael Turner who repel thrown passes.

And as far as injury history, Bell did suffer a lis franc injury last year. It's not to say he's injury prone, but why does he get a pass on this...? I would also think his upright running style makes him a bit more susceptible to getting knicked.

I don't want to argue the merits of either. Both are very good...but Bell is RB11 and Mathews RB21. The real production and potential delta seems thinner than 10 RB's.

 

[VaTerp]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I have trust issues with him. Can't shake the memories of him leaving games because of this or that. He missed ten games in three years before playing in all of them last season. And now Whisenhunt, who had him playing well, is gone.

I'm not saying the guy is a 1st rounder...I get that some have 2nd degree burns because of the guy. But middle to late 4th round? Why don't those same trust issues apply to CJ Spiller who seems clearly rooted in an RBBC situation with FJax and is going a round earlier and is actually coming off a bad/subpar year? Toby Gerhart is a better bet than Mathews? Why? Because he hasn't burned anyone before...? Mathews is going just behind Frank Gore whose team just drafted Hyde because they watched Gore stumble badly in the later half of last season.

Like I said, it seems like 2012 still seems to bother folks to the point where they've let a significant value slide which when it comes to ADP, I'm usually can understand the logic of the mob, even if I don't agree with it. Not on this one.

so youre basically saying he should be going one round earlier than hes going

Well, let's put it this way. What's the difference between him and Le'veon Bell?

~30 receptions IMO.

But at the same time, Blount looks like he could vulture some TD's while Mathews seems like a better bet insider the 5 on a more consistent basis. And Mathews has a career YPC of 4.4 which is inclusive of his 3.8 YPC during his injury plagued year, while Bell sported a 3.5 last year. Bell can certainly improve on 3.5, but Mathews could do the same with his 4.4 YPC of last year (in 2011, he sported a 4.9 YPC). And as far as being a pass catcher, Mathews has shown proficiency in this area in his career previously. It simply wasn't taken advantage of as much in 2013. But we're not talking Alfred Morris or Michael Turner who repel thrown passes.

And as far as injury history, Bell did suffer a lis franc injury last year. It's not to say he's injury prone, but why does he get a pass on this...? I would also think his upright running style makes him a bit more susceptible to getting knicked.

I don't want to argue the merits of either. Both are very good...but Bell is RB11 and Mathews RB21. The real production and potential delta seems thinner than 10 RB's.

Good post. I'm a long time Mathews believer but I definitely proceed with caution. That said I have Mathews 15 and Bell 18 right now.

I like the talent a lot more and think the situation is one that could be improved from last year.

 

[FF Ninja]

Some good stuff in the OP. Some misinformation in the replies, though.

This idea that Mathews doesn't catch passes (and should be downgraded in PPR this year) is absurd, as is the notion that Woodhead will catch all the passes this year. Do you people only check season totals? At the very least, look at some splits:

Games 1-8: Mathews 8 targets, Woodhead 57 targets

Games 9-16: Mathews 25 targets, Woodhead 30 targets

Most notably, they each had 19 targets in the last 5 games.

Why did this happen? Probably several reasons. The coaching staff grew to trust Mathews and realized he's simply a better player, or at the very least he's multidimensional. Also, Mathews is a substantially better blocker than Woodhead, who is a liability in that aspect of the game. It is worth noting that Woodhead had exactly 53 rushes in both halves of the season, so it's not like he was being phased out. Mathews was simply getting his number called on some passing plays.

The idea that Woodhead was the goal line back is a bit silly, too. I believe Mathews fumbled at the goal line in week 1 or 2 and lost those duties for a while. He was obviously reinstated later in the year. I do recall Woodhead receiving a goal line carry or two while Mathews was injured.

Speaking of which, Maurile is totally correct. Mathews definitely missed time last year. It's funny how few people actually know what they are talking about, but it's easy to tell in these cases. I don't expect every casual fan to know this stuff, but sports/fantasy writers should know that Mathews missed time to injury in several games, the most obvious being week 5 when he only had 3 touches. Just a cursory glance at his game logs should indicate this.

Someone asked, what's the difference between Mathews and Bell? I'd rather have Mathews even if the price was the same. I like Donald Brown, but I think Blount is a bigger threat to Bell. Also, I don't think it'll be a 30 rec difference between the two. Dre Archer is going to catch some passes in that offense and it sure looks like Pit is finally going to give Blount a chance to catch some passes as I've read that he's lined up in the slot a few times. I think any difference in receptions between Mathews and Bell will be more than balanced out by increased usage and potentially by goal line work (looks as though Blount will be stealing at least some of those). Bell got 79% of the carries and 70% of the RB targets when he was healthy last year. That won't be the case this year.

 

[sho nuff]

I like him...but the lack of TDs and the stigma of missing games or coming out early hurts the perception on him.

I am more than happy to snag him as an RB2 if I stock up on WRs or grab a QB or TE if he falls...or even a flex if I go RB, RB, RB.

 

[Tau837]

I am a big Mathews fan, and he does seem to be a good value to me. I have him on all four of my teams (two redraft, two dynasty).

However, the way the current regime (GM, coaching staff) has handled him and their RBs is discouraging for his future prospects with the Chargers. Norv used him effectively in 2011 and planned to do so in 2012 before the collarbone injuries.

Then the GM and coaching staff changed, and the team signed Woodhead in the 2013 offseason and proceeded to use Mathews in limited fashion (lower snap count than seemed appropriate IMO) and in one dimensional fashion (not much involvement in the passing game, at least until late, with the vast majority of RB targets going to Woodhead).

Then this offseason, the team extended Woodhead's contract, signed Brown, and left Mathews to play out the final year of his contract without an extension.

Mathews should still get the majority of the RB touches if he stays healthy. But I think this situation caps his upside. It seems unlikely that the team is going to increase his role this year. If anything, it seems more likely they could decrease it to work Donald Brown into the mix a bit more than they used Ronnie Brown last year, while still using Woodhead plenty. Plus, IMO the Chargers are likely to be trailing more often given a more difficult schedule, which could prevent them from going run heavy this season as they did down the stretch last year.

So I think he is a good value but doesn't have much upside this year. As a dynasty owner, I hope he moves to another team next season that will use him more often and more effectively.

 

[Leonidas]

I went HEAVY on WR this year so I'm starting Ryan Mathews in 2 of my 5 leagues. He and Reggie Bush are guys I targeted after opening with WRs or maybe a TE. I even landed both in rounds 4 and 5 in one league, which is sweet.

I was high on him last year as well and it paid off in the league where I took him.

In fact, I recall posting in the 2013 bold predictions thread that Mathews and somebody else (forget who) would each have over 1,000 yards...and somebody replying with a lol you mean combined right? ha.

People constantly under value this guy IMO

 

[cvnpoka]

he is the GL back

He might be this season, but he never has been. It was Mike Tolbert in 2010 and 2011, Jackie Battle in 2012, and Danny Woodhead in 2013.

Woodhead was for first half but I'd say Mathews was more toward the end of the season.

inside the 5, woodhead had 6 carries for 2 tds, and 5 targets, 3 catches for 1 td.

rivers had 3 carries. ronnie brown had 3 carries and a td.

mathews had 7 carries and 4 tds, no targets.

 

[jurb26]

I went HEAVY on WR this year so I'm starting Ryan Mathews in 2 of my 5 leagues. He and Reggie Bush are guys I targeted after opening with WRs or maybe a TE. I even landed both in rounds 4 and 5 in one league, which is sweet.

I was high on him last year as well and it paid off in the league where I took him.

In fact, I recall posting in the 2013 bold predictions thread that Mathews and somebody else (forget who) would each have over 1,000 yards...and somebody replying with a lol you mean combined right? ha.

People constantly under value this guy IMO

I did this exact thing the other day. Went AJG and Marshall 1 and 2 and followed it up with Mathews and Spiller at 3 and 4. I'm not sure why people are so down on Mathews but he's a borderline RB1 who is involved in the SD offense on many levels. He seems like a great value for anyone looking at not taking a RB in round 1 or 2.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Im in agreement with Mathews being once again a value this year. Drafted him as value last yr, tried including him in numerous trades and most of the time Id read a counter statement along the lines of "Mathews meh". That said, while SD had a nice bounce back last year, Im a little concerned about the overall offense. I dont think Rivers returns to his 2012 low, but how good will the offense be with Whisenhunt gone?? Also, how does the new OC utilize/spread the touches between his 3 RBs?

Based on where he's going, Mathews is a smart pick if youre waiting until the 3rd or 4th rd for your RB1, but I see his season last year as his ceiling considering how the offense and its personnel are currently constructed. He definitely has a high floor as long as he stays healthy though.

 

[justinl]

Ugh, Mathews is nowhere to be found... As far as I'm seeing, 4 plays, 3 carries, 1 stayed in to block. 1 more snap than Brown. Woodhead so far dominating the snaps...

 

[flapgreen]

Drafted Mathews. Sorry fellas

 

[RBM]

I don't get it. I really thought they'd use the offense that carried them into the playoffs last year. Figured it made too much sense not to.

 

[Raider Nation]

I don't get it. I really thought they'd use the offense that carried them into the playoffs last year. Figured it made too much sense not to.

That offense and its mad scientist is now in Tennessee.

 

[justinl]

I don't get it. I really thought they'd use the offense that carried them into the playoffs last year. Figured it made too much sense not to.

That offense and its mad scientist is now in Tennessee.

I swear that Rivers' ADP tanked when SD announced they were going to be a run first attack...

Rivers is taking an ungodly amount of time setting up these plays, and they have no rhythm. And none of the backs have any rhythm getting subbed in and out like this...

 

[RBM]

I don't get it. I really thought they'd use the offense that carried them into the playoffs last year. Figured it made too much sense not to.

That offense and its mad scientist is now in Tennessee.

Guess so. I thought McCoy was the genius.

 

[flapgreen]

I don't get it. I really thought they'd use the offense that carried them into the playoffs last year. Figured it made too much sense not to.

That offense and its mad scientist is now in Tennessee.

Guess so. I thought McCoy was the genius.

Looks dumb as a rock now. Woodcock in at gl. :X

 

[VaTerp]

WTF was I thinking drafting him again.

Only positive thing I can tell myself is that they will use him more down the stretch like last year. Hopefully he stays healthy and contributes in the 2nd half of the FF season.

 

[Leonidas]

There's the TD.

Amazing how people freak out because their guy didn't put up big numbers in the first 5 minutes of a game.

 

[Light Blue Jesus]

There's the TD.

Oh thank God. The run right before that was...

 

[flapgreen]

I knew he could do it!

 

[rocketsauce]

Man that TD finally got me excited (really rough opening Fantasy week for me) but I'm hating the way they're rotating in the backs. Mathews had 1 snap of the first 8, and with them pushing some hurry up, he didn't even get on the field their previous trip down to the redzone, as Woodhead just stayed in.

Hoping he can find another TD here, and I'll probably look to trade him this week if I can find a decent buyer.

 

[justinl]

There's the TD.

Amazing how people freak out because their guy didn't put up big numbers in the first 5 minutes of a game.

It's not that, it's his opportunities. He had what, 5 carries and 1 target in the first half, and he was in on 1st down and taken out for Woodhead or Brown? It's not like the Chargers fell behind or anything. And he was probably out for something like 10 snaps in the first half. Also, the Chargers barely went over 100 yds in the first half of a very, VERY slow game.

 

[justinl]

Man that TD finally got me excited (really rough opening Fantasy week for me) but I'm hating the way they're rotating in the backs. Mathews had 1 snap of the first 8, and with them pushing some hurry up, he didn't even get on the field their previous trip down to the redzone, as Woodhead just stayed in.

Hoping he can find another TD here, and I'll probably look to trade him this week if I can find a decent buyer.

I would have suggested to buy low, before the TD. Arizona has a good line, I'd like to see him in week 2 before giving up on him. He was fantastic in the 2nd half of last season, looked good in preseason, and Woodhead is not going to carry the load.

 

[Leonidas]

There's the TD.

Amazing how people freak out because their guy didn't put up big numbers in the first 5 minutes of a game.

It's not that, it's his opportunities. He had what, 5 carries and 1 target in the first half, and he was in on 1st down and taken out for Woodhead or Brown? It's not like the Chargers fell behind or anything. And he was probably out for something like 10 snaps in the first half. Also, the Chargers barely went over 100 yds in the first half of a very, VERY slow game.

Currently Mathews has 10 carries. The entire rest of the team has 7, and that includes 1 each from Royal and Rivers (3 woodhead, 2 brown)

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Man that TD finally got me excited (really rough opening Fantasy week for me) but I'm hating the way they're rotating in the backs. Mathews had 1 snap of the first 8, and with them pushing some hurry up, he didn't even get on the field their previous trip down to the redzone, as Woodhead just stayed in.

Hoping he can find another TD here, and I'll probably look to trade him this week if I can find a decent buyer.

I would have suggested to buy low, before the TD. Arizona has a good line, I'd like to see him in week 2 before giving up on him. He was fantastic in the 2nd half of last season, looked good in preseason, and Woodhead is not going to carry the load.

Week two is against Seattle.

 

[justinl]

There's the TD.

Amazing how people freak out because their guy didn't put up big numbers in the first 5 minutes of a game.

It's not that, it's his opportunities. He had what, 5 carries and 1 target in the first half, and he was in on 1st down and taken out for Woodhead or Brown? It's not like the Chargers fell behind or anything. And he was probably out for something like 10 snaps in the first half. Also, the Chargers barely went over 100 yds in the first half of a very, VERY slow game.

Currently Mathews has 10 carries. The entire rest of the team has 7, and that includes 1 each from Royal and Rivers (3 woodhead, 2 brown)

Only 10 carries through the end of the 3rd quarter while playing all of 15 snaps? Woodhead isn't just coming out on 3rd down or passing downs, the split up to the TD drive had been 50/50. It looks like they've changed their strategy since halftime, but as good as Mathews looked at the end of the season and in the preseason, he wasn't getting a lot of snaps early on. And Woodhead actually got goal line work on their first trip, not exactly what you'd expect.

Man that TD finally got me excited (really rough opening Fantasy week for me) but I'm hating the way they're rotating in the backs. Mathews had 1 snap of the first 8, and with them pushing some hurry up, he didn't even get on the field their previous trip down to the redzone, as Woodhead just stayed in.

Hoping he can find another TD here, and I'll probably look to trade him this week if I can find a decent buyer.

I would have suggested to buy low, before the TD. Arizona has a good line, I'd like to see him in week 2 before giving up on him. He was fantastic in the 2nd half of last season, looked good in preseason, and Woodhead is not going to carry the load.

Week two is against Seattle.

Week 3 then, Buffalo!

 

[rocketsauce]

Sigh. Up 3 here, clock killing drive time, and it's all Woodhead, and all chucking it. Give Ryan Mathews a chance to finish this game! Has that nifty 10 yard carry, and nothing else since his TD run.

Chargers are out thinking themselves out there right now.

 

[flapgreen]

They just have mediocre coaching.

 

[renesauz]

He has 60% of the RB touches for the team. Not sure we could ask for all that much better. Arizona has a stout run defense.

At that pace, he'll have plenty of 20 touch games

 

[rocketsauce]

And now that they're losing, Mathews can go ahead and take his bright yellow cleats off.