Why The Colts Will Lose The Superbowl (1 Viewer)

[matt jones]

The Indianapolis Colts are the Dallas Mavericks of the NFL. Peyton Manning is Dirk Nowitzki. The San Antonio Spurs are the New England Patriots. Last season the Mavericks finally and barely got by their rivals, the Spurs (Duncan = Brady) but then they lost in the finals to a team they were clearly better than. So the Colts finally get past the Patriots but now they are destined to lose in the superbowl. I swear they're the same team!

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not.

 

[JohnnyU]

Terrible analogy. Yes, you're wrong.

 

[boubucarow]

The Colts are not clearly the better team.

 

[matt jones]

Terrible analogy. Yes, you're wrong.

Yeah seeing how Duncan has 3 titles and Brady has 3 titles. Dirk 0 Peyton 0. Mavericks/Colts Explosive offenses poor defenses (at the time) Spurs decent offense great defense. Mavericks Up Tempo team Colts no huddle. Yeah terrible analogy.

 

[JohnnyU]

Merge with this one

 

[JohnnyU]

Terrible analogy. Yes, you're wrong.

Yeah seeing how Duncan has 3 titles and Brady has 3 titles. Dirk 0 Peyton 0. Mavericks/Colts Explosive offenses poor defenses (at the time) Spurs decent offense great defense. Mavericks Up Tempo team Colts no huddle. Yeah terrible analogy.

It's a terrible analogy because it's far fetched to think that one could possibly have any bearing on the results of the other.

 

[matt jones]

Not really, if you followed both teams through the years you see the similarities. They finally "broke through" now they're goign to have a let down. I hope not, but as a colts and mavericks fan they have the same same styles and tendencies. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not

 

[Gottabesweet]

your just posting this so it gets bumped and everyone is like Ohhhh your wrong. but in all you'll be happy because the Colts win.

Nice try with the reverse karma.

 

[matt jones]

I hope I'm wrong! So tired of the manning haters. The Dan Marino comparisons are aweful. Manning just wants to win, Marino wanted numbers. Also Manning is consistent, throwing only 10 int's a year the last 3 years. If you get rid of Marino's first 2-3 seasons, his numbers aren't impressive.

 

[matt jones]

I've got a new nick name now--Skinny!

"Losing never felt this good" - Dan Marion (expert on losing)

 

[JohnnyU]

I hope I'm wrong! So tired of the manning haters. The Dan Marino comparisons are aweful. Manning just wants to win, Marino wanted numbers. Also Manning is consistent, throwing only 10 int's a year the last 3 years. If you get rid of Marino's first 2-3 seasons, his numbers aren't impressive.

While I agree with you about the Manning haters since this is a team sport, and placing blame on one player is just plain stupid, but you are wrong about Marino. I would say he wanted to win just as much as anyone, and for you to say "Marino wanted numbers", isn't a fair assessment of Dan Marino, IMO.

 

[cobalt_27]

The Indianapolis Colts are the Dallas Mavericks of the NFL. Peyton Manning is Dirk Nowitzki. The San Antonio Spurs are the New England Patriots. Last season the Mavericks finally and barely got by their rivals, the Spurs (Duncan = Brady) but then they lost in the finals to a team they were clearly better than. So the Colts finally get past the Patriots but now they are destined to lose in the superbowl. I swear they're the same team!

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not.

Well, if this isn't an intellectual I don't know what is.

 

[Team Legacy]

The Colts are not clearly the better team.

Yes they are.

 

[Vibe Raiders]

No Manning is clearly a better QB......but the Bears are a better team.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The Colts are not clearly the better team.

Yes they are.

How so? The Bears have a better defense and better specials teams. The Colts have a better offense. Coaching is debatable. How does that make the Colts the better clear-cut team?

 

[Joe Bryant]

The Indianapolis Colts are the Dallas Mavericks of the NFL. Peyton Manning is Dirk Nowitzki. The San Antonio Spurs are the New England Patriots. Last season the Mavericks finally and barely got by their rivals, the Spurs (Duncan = Brady) but then they lost in the finals to a team they were clearly better than. So the Colts finally get past the Patriots but now they are destined to lose in the superbowl. I swear they're the same team!

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not.

Hi Matt,I think you can easily make a very strong case the Colts won't win. But I can't think of one that would involve the NBA.

J

 

[Hamstring]

Come on the parallels of the NFL to the NBA are undeniable. That explains why the Bears were losing every year the Bulls won a title.

 

[Assani Fisher]

You could also compare them to the Red Sox after they finally got by the Yankees. I came into this thread rather hopeful because I thought it'd be nice to see a homer building a case against his team winning. I go away very disappointed....

 

[Obie Wan]

I hope I'm wrong! So tired of the manning haters. The Dan Marino comparisons are aweful. Manning just wants to win, Marino wanted numbers. Also Manning is consistent, throwing only 10 int's a year the last 3 years. If you get rid of Marino's first 2-3 seasons, his numbers aren't impressive.

While I agree with you about the Manning haters since this is a team sport, and placing blame on one player is just plain stupid, but you are wrong about Marino. I would say he wanted to win just as much as anyone, and for you to say "Marino wanted numbers", isn't a fair assessment of Dan Marino, IMO.

Marino was the main reason they never developed any semblence of a running game.when they tried to run, Dan changed the play to a pass.He had a major conflict with Jimmy Johnson's ball control ideas and that ended real well in Jacksonville

 

[Saints-Man]

I will be rooting for the Colts, but I think the Bears might have the better team. Good defense usually triumphs over good offense.

 

[BGP]

Teams knocking off the defending super bowl champ in the playoffs are 4-12 in their next playoff game that same season. That could mean nothing but perhaps its evidence that knocking off a team with that championship aura takes too much out of the winner. You can't really know unless you crawl inside the heads of these guys, but you can't just ignore it, either.

 

[Jack Ham & Eggs]

If you get rid of Marino's first 2-3 seasons, his numbers aren't impressive.

Take away Dan Marino's first three years in the league and give him a zero. He would still rank #3 in all-time touchdown passes. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Teams knocking off the defending super bowl champ in the playoffs are 4-12 in their next playoff game that same season. That could mean nothing but perhaps its evidence that knocking off a team with that championship aura takes too much out of the winner. You can't really know unless you crawl inside the heads of these guys, but you can't just ignore it, either.

What does that have to do with anything? The Steelers were the defending champs this year, and they weren't in the playoffs, so what exactly is your point?

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

The Colts are gonna win - the ESPN talking heads are already leaning that way.

Listen to all the ESPN experts that predicted the Bears would lose to New Orleans:

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Just keep heaping the overconfidence and added pressure onto the shoulders of Goober Manning please.

 

[pizzatyme]

The Colts are gonna win - the ESPN talking heads are already leaning that way.

Listen to all the ESPN experts that predicted the Bears would lose to New Orleans:

Linkage

Just keep heaping the overconfidence and added pressure onto the shoulders of Goober Manning please.

GA, you're down to name calling? This is not what I would expect out of you!

 

[Mik789fl]

The Indianapolis Colts are the Dallas Mavericks of the NFL. Peyton Manning is Dirk Nowitzki. The San Antonio Spurs are the New England Patriots. Last season the Mavericks finally and barely got by their rivals, the Spurs (Duncan = Brady) but then they lost in the finals to a team they were clearly better than. So the Colts finally get past the Patriots but now they are destined to lose in the superbowl. I swear they're the same team!

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not.

Hi Matt,I think you can easily make a very strong case the Colts won't win. But I can't think of one that would involve the NBA.

J

Good point,so let's "even" out the different sports analogies. The Red Sox had their El Guapo also and FINALLY got past them,coming from behind,(sound familiar?) in the process,then The World Series was a comparative cakewalk. So analgizing we can say The Colts will have little trouble with The Bears. Next analogy.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

The Colts are gonna win - the ESPN talking heads are already leaning that way.

Listen to all the ESPN experts that predicted the Bears would lose to New Orleans:

Linkage

Just keep heaping the overconfidence and added pressure onto the shoulders of Goober Manning please.

GA, you're down to name calling? This is not what I would expect out of you!

?? Who's calling whom names? If it's Goober, that's his nickname in my household because he's a hick with warm charm.

 

[Tenacious D]

It's a terrible analogy because it's far fetched to think that one could possibly have any bearing on the results of the other.

Do you know the definition of analogy? What does one having any bearing on the results of another have to do with being an analogy? An analogy shows similarities between two different things, so it actually works quite well as an analogy. When he talks about the Colts being "destined" to lose b/c the Mavs did, it has nothing to do with it and is a logical fallacy, but the analogy itself, as far as just comparing the two teams, is still logical.

 

[Team Legacy]

The Colts are not clearly the better team.

Yes they are.

How so? The Bears have a better defense and better specials teams. The Colts have a better offense. Coaching is debatable. How does that make the Colts the better clear-cut team?

The competition is NIGHT and DAY in the AFC/NFC.AFC PLAYOFF TEAMS VS NFCSD 4-0BALT 3-1INDY 3-1PATS 4-0JETS 3-1KC 4-0NFC PLAYOFF TEAMS VS AFCCHI 2-2NO 1-3PHI 1-3SEA 2-2DAL 3-1NYG 1-3I think this proves my point, that and the overwhelming consensus of people (vegas) that agree with me.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I thought Goober Manning struggled against 3-4 defenses.

Why then did he lose to three teams that run the 4-3 this year?

Nov 19 @Dallas Lost 14-21 < run the 3-4

Dec 3 @Tennessee Lost 17-20

Dec 10 @Jacksonville Lost 17-44

Dec 24 @Houston Lost 24-27 < used to run the 3-4

The best chance the Bears have to win is summed up best here:

1) Run the ball successfully (I think they can pull it off)

2) Win the turnover battle (will be tough)

3) Dominate on special teams (should be no problem)

4) Pressure Manning (remains to be seen)

The natural grass is the variable that nobody is really taking into account. It will allow the oversize offensive line of the Bears to push the Colts D-Line around, and minimize the damage their two DEs can cause.

The last time Bears OLT John Tait squared off against Freeney, he only gave up one sack.

Also of interest, former Bear employees Dave McGinnis and Jeff Fisher have proven this year that they can contain the mighty Colts offense - I wouldn't be surprised if they give Ron Rivera some friendly advice, as all three spent time together with the Bears back in the mid-80s.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The Colts are not clearly the better team.

Yes they are.

How so? The Bears have a better defense and better specials teams. The Colts have a better offense. Coaching is debatable. How does that make the Colts the better clear-cut team?

The competition is NIGHT and DAY in the AFC/NFC.AFC PLAYOFF TEAMS VS NFCSD 4-0BALT 3-1INDY 3-1PATS 4-0JETS 3-1KC 4-0NFC PLAYOFF TEAMS VS AFCCHI 2-2NO 1-3PHI 1-3SEA 2-2DAL 3-1NYG 1-3I think this proves my point, that and the overwhelming consensus of people (vegas) that agree with me.

The point spreads in Vegas often have little to do with which team is actually better. They place spreads to try and get an equal amount of action on both sides. The Colts are the flashier team (better offense), so of course they are going to be favored. Why do you think the Rams were always favored by so much back in the day ('99-01)? As I said before, I think the Colts will win, but to say they are clearly the better team is presumptious.

 

[pinda]

Come on the parallels of the NFL to the NBA are undeniable. That explains why the Bears were losing every year the Bulls won a title.

Even more proof is when the Lakers won, there wasn't even a team in LA......call Mulder and Scully there may be something here

 

[djcolts]

I thought Goober Manning struggled against 3-4 defenses.Why then did he lose to three teams that run the 4-3 this year?Nov 19 @Dallas Lost 14-21 < run the 3-4Dec 3 @Tennessee Lost 17-20 Dec 10 @Jacksonville Lost 17-44 Dec 24 @Houston Lost 24-27 < used to run the 3-4The best chance the Bears have to win is summed up best here:1) Run the ball successfully (I think they can pull it off)2) Win the turnover battle (will be tough)3) Dominate on special teams (should be no problem)4) Pressure Manning (remains to be seen)The natural grass is the variable that nobody is really taking into account. It will allow the oversize offensive line of the Bears to push the Colts D-Line around, and minimize the damage their two DEs can cause.The last time Bears OLT John Tait squared off against Freeney, he only gave up one sack.Also of interest, former Bear employees Dave McGinnis and Jeff Fisher have proven this year that they can contain the mighty Colts offense - I wouldn't be surprised if they give Ron Rivera some friendly advice, as all three spent time together with the Bears back in the mid-80s.

The Tenn, Jax and Houston losses had a lot more to do with their run defense than any Manning struggles. Manning was actually brilliant in the HOU loss, that's how bad the run D played that day. Jax is the one 4-3 defense that the Colts struggle with, because they have 2 HUGE DTs, they play each other twice a year (which means generally lower scoring games) and the complementary players around them. Tenn played a good bend but don't break D that day - Colts got tons of yards but not enough scores. HOU didn't stop them at all except for a Dominic Rhodes fumble.One more point - Dallas Clark got hurt in the Eagles game, so he didn't play in any of the 3 losses to AFC South foes. With Stokely being a non-factor this season, Clark is clearly a key component to the offense.

 

[Godsbrother]

Teams knocking off the defending super bowl champ in the playoffs are 4-12 in their next playoff game that same season. That could mean nothing but perhaps its evidence that knocking off a team with that championship aura takes too much out of the winner. You can't really know unless you crawl inside the heads of these guys, but you can't just ignore it, either.

What does that have to do with anything? The Steelers were the defending champs this year, and they weren't in the playoffs, so what exactly is your point?

In BGP's world the Steelers did not win the Super Bowl last year so the Patriots are still the defending Super Bowl champions.It is childish but this is what he believes...

 

[switz]

How do I add "matt jones" to my ignore list? Only two threads I've seen him in are completely worthless trash

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Teams knocking off the defending super bowl champ in the playoffs are 4-12 in their next playoff game that same season. That could mean nothing but perhaps its evidence that knocking off a team with that championship aura takes too much out of the winner. You can't really know unless you crawl inside the heads of these guys, but you can't just ignore it, either.

What does that have to do with anything? The Steelers were the defending champs this year, and they weren't in the playoffs, so what exactly is your point?

In BGP's world the Steelers did not win the Super Bowl last year so the Patriots are still the defending Super Bowl champions.It is childish but this is what he believes...

Wow, using stats to support a delusion.

 

[Rovers]

The Dallas Mavericks? Is that some WFL team? Never heard of them.

 

[pizzatyme]

Favorites of 4+ points are 22-3. As much as point spreads don't matter to the game. I think Vegas does a pretty good job of predicting an outcome.

 

[bullitt]

Favorites of 4+ points are 22-3. As much as point spreads don't matter to the game. I think Vegas does a pretty good job of predicting an outcome.

Soon to be 22-4.