Why the Hatred? (1 Viewer)

[jeffngold]

OK, this is not fantasy football related, but a point that I think needs to be discussed....why is there so much hatred/negativity on this board? I, like many of you, like coming here to listen to other people's opinions about the hot topic of the day in fantasy. And there are many of you that provide their insights in a well thought out, non-abrasive manner. But it seems to me that more and more each day, there is anger, negativity, abuse, and ill-will being brandied on this board.

I don't get why? I mean, I know some people have 'internet muscles' so to speak. But seriously, we are all here for the same reason! If you don't agree with people, then great...that is what makes this game fun! But can't we all agree to a more civil board? Everyone would benefit as we would have more discussion and less hate. Topics won't be shut down, and people can actually LEARN something.

Sorry to get all hippie-ish on here. It just seems like it needed to be said. Just treat everyone with respect. How hard is that?

I know there are many great posters on here and this is not directed at them. Just seems to me that more and more anger is here daily and I think it needs to stop for the good of the board.

OK, back to the one hundred Vick and Best topics (kidding )

 

[John 14:6]

Yeah, these boards seem to feature more people trying to come up with clever and mean-spirited comebacks as opposed to actually talking about football.

 

[UnderDawgs]

Put the pipe down. dude, and walk away.

 

[kface]

We're the USA...we have no self esteem so we eat too much and put everybody down to make ourselves feel better

 

[jeffngold]

Case in point. I actually think others need to pick the pipe back up and chill out a bit.

 

[eoMMan]

Do you mean for thread topics that don't give detail on what their about? God, I hate that.

 

[AngryGorilla]

yea, no touching the quarterback. No keeping score. Let's put our PC happy faces on and be constructive!

 

[Phrenchdude]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.

I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.

if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.

just carry on, nothing to see there

 

[oukurt]

OK, this is not fantasy football related, but a point that I think needs to be discussed....why is there so much hatred/negativity on this board? I, like many of you, like coming here to listen to other people's opinions about the hot topic of the day in fantasy. And there are many of you that provide their insights in a well thought out, non-abrasive manner. But it seems to me that more and more each day, there is anger, negativity, abuse, and ill-will being brandied on this board.I don't get why? I mean, I know some people have 'internet muscles' so to speak. But seriously, we are all here for the same reason! If you don't agree with people, then great...that is what makes this game fun! But can't we all agree to a more civil board? Everyone would benefit as we would have more discussion and less hate. Topics won't be shut down, and people can actually LEARN something.Sorry to get all hippie-ish on here. It just seems like it needed to be said. Just treat everyone with respect. How hard is that?I know there are many great posters on here and this is not directed at them. Just seems to me that more and more anger is here daily and I think it needs to stop for the good of the board.OK, back to the one hundred Vick and Best topics (kidding )

I don't get abrasive until I read a Best is the new Barry Sanders/I am a genius for drafting him/I wouldn't trade him for Peterson and Chris Johnson thread for the 100th time. Other than that I play well with others.

 

[John 14:6]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

What's really frustrating is when arguments erupt in threads that otherwise contain good info...

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Brandied?

 

[jeffngold]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

I'm not sure I disagree with this, but it seems so sad, in a way. Surely people can act civilized to each other? I mean, I guess not as this thread alone is proving. My other question is, why aren't the moderators like Dodds and Bryant policing this? It's almost a reflection on their product. I love this site and what they do, and that is why it is weird to see these boards be at such a level below what they create and provide as a product in the other areas.

 

[AngryGorilla]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

well said.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

People were more respectful on the "Old Yeller" board. Having said that, GET THE HELL OFF MY LAWN!!!

 

[az_prof]

I have to agree with OP that it has gotten worse. Partly, the whole country is more polarized and the public discourse everywhere is becoming more vitriolic and combative. One of the things I like about FBG is that Joe usually calls people out for "tool" behavior. Maybe he has more duties this past year and hasn't done it as much. Not sure.

People should be able to disagree about players and teams without being hateful and abusive. I am sure someone on staff will eventually begin cracking down on uncivil behavior.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

Welcome to humanity. Let's be honest, as a race we kinda suck.

 

[AngryGorilla]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

I'm not sure I disagree with this, but it seems so sad, in a way. Surely people can act civilized to each other? I mean, I guess not as this thread alone is proving. My other question is, why aren't the moderators like Dodds and Bryant policing this? It's almost a reflection on their product. I love this site and what they do, and that is why it is weird to see these boards be at such a level below what they create and provide as a product in the other areas.

Dodds and Bryant shouldn't have to police this. We're all big boys and girls. If you don't like it, move on. Just like anything else in life. No one can make everyone happy, or make any one thing perfect. The Shark Pool is excellent, not perfect. Deal with it.

 

[domvin]

id like to see beter gramar and puncutality....better spelling as well

I believe the Children are our future, teach them well, and......letthemleadtheway.

-Randy Watson

 

[Wrigley]

We did have a I love you day last year

 

[jeffngold]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

I'm not sure I disagree with this, but it seems so sad, in a way. Surely people can act civilized to each other? I mean, I guess not as this thread alone is proving. My other question is, why aren't the moderators like Dodds and Bryant policing this? It's almost a reflection on their product. I love this site and what they do, and that is why it is weird to see these boards be at such a level below what they create and provide as a product in the other areas.

Dodds and Bryant shouldn't have to police this. We're all big boys and girls. If you don't like it, move on. Just like anything else in life. No one can make everyone happy, or make any one thing perfect. The Shark Pool is excellent, not perfect. Deal with it.

You are right that Dodds and Bryant SHOULDN'T have to police it, but sadly, that is what it has come down to. That is my point really. We should all police it ourselves, but it doesn't seem to be happening. And why 'deal with it'? Would you do that in any other situation in life? You don't ever try and IMPROVE something? Yes, the Shark Pool is great. But, that doesn't mean it can't be improved on. And it easily can. Just with a little respect for other people. I don't get when people are averse to improvement. Seems defeatist to say that nothing can be changed. Sorry for the caps. Not screaming, just emphasizing. Too lazy to use the italics.

 

[az_prof]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

I'm not sure I disagree with this, but it seems so sad, in a way. Surely people can act civilized to each other? I mean, I guess not as this thread alone is proving. My other question is, why aren't the moderators like Dodds and Bryant policing this? It's almost a reflection on their product. I love this site and what they do, and that is why it is weird to see these boards be at such a level below what they create and provide as a product in the other areas.

Dodds and Bryant shouldn't have to police this. We're all big boys and girls. If you don't like it, move on. Just like anything else in life. No one can make everyone happy, or make any one thing perfect. The Shark Pool is excellent, not perfect. Deal with it.

With all due respect, telling someone to "deal with it" or "move on" really isn't your call to make and is not very friendly. Why make it personal? You like the forum as it is? Fine. You don't think a change is needed? Fine. But why make it personal and imply that the other poster isn't a man and needs to just accept people being insulting and rude? You don't own the site so it isn't your call to make. I can tell you that in the past much of the negative and rude behavior was shut down pretty quickly here. It is one of the things I liked better about FBG compared to the old Antsports that I used to frequent. Antsports got out of hand with people saying the most outrageously insulting things to each other and it becomes a distraction from the point of the boards--which is to talk about fantasy football.

 

[Manster]

yea, no touching the quarterback. No keeping score. Let's put our PC happy faces on and be constructive!

i think its all relative. this site is actually very tame compared to others(not gonna name names, but one of em ends in today) , and i think it's run appropriately. things get outta control, the mods step in.ultimately, this is football not tennis. talkin smack, toughness, etc., is all part of it. but, there is a point when the smack talk, and trying to make others look dumb gets out of hand. i do agree with that. again, this site is not bad for that at all, imo.

 

[jeffngold]

yea, no touching the quarterback. No keeping score. Let's put our PC happy faces on and be constructive!

i think its all relative. this site is actually very tame compared to others(not gonna name names, but one of em ends in today) , and i think it's run appropriately. things get outta control, the mods step in.ultimately, this is football not tennis. talkin smack, toughness, etc., is all part of it. but, there is a point when the smack talk, and trying to make others look dumb gets out of hand. i do agree with that. again, this site is not bad for that at all, imo.

This is football? I thought it was posting on an internet forum about a fantasy sport. It is not football. There really is no place for 'toughness' when discussing opinions with another human being on a message board.Banter is one thing. But outright rudeness and animosity is just unwarranted. Not trying to argue this all day as it defeats my original post. Just saying it would be nice if people could get their point across without hate. Disagreements are great and warranted. No need to be insulting though.

 

[sjacksonfan]

Because the internet is a place where some people release their real life anger. It's an outlet. Read some of the comments after some the stories on news websites.

 

[Wrigley]

picture of hot girl with a fooball

 

[Phrenchdude]

lol @ "this is football, not tennis"

maybe we make this a golf forum, golf-clapping only, no cheering, definitely no yelling of any kind, and collared shirts for all?

 

[AngryGorilla]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

I'm not sure I disagree with this, but it seems so sad, in a way. Surely people can act civilized to each other? I mean, I guess not as this thread alone is proving. My other question is, why aren't the moderators like Dodds and Bryant policing this? It's almost a reflection on their product. I love this site and what they do, and that is why it is weird to see these boards be at such a level below what they create and provide as a product in the other areas.

Dodds and Bryant shouldn't have to police this. We're all big boys and girls. If you don't like it, move on. Just like anything else in life. No one can make everyone happy, or make any one thing perfect. The Shark Pool is excellent, not perfect. Deal with it.

With all due respect, telling someone to "deal with it" or "move on" really isn't your call to make and is not very friendly. Why make it personal? You like the forum as it is? Fine. You don't think a change is needed? Fine. But why make it personal and imply that the other poster isn't a man and needs to just accept people being insulting and rude? You don't own the site so it isn't your call to make. I can tell you that in the past much of the negative and rude behavior was shut down pretty quickly here. It is one of the things I liked better about FBG compared to the old Antsports that I used to frequent. Antsports got out of hand with people saying the most outrageously insulting things to each other and it becomes a distraction from the point of the boards--which is to talk about fantasy football.

Ok, since you want to make it personal... My statement was "The Shark Pool is excellent, not perfect." Deal with that, don't confuse the good with the perfect. Sheesh, why do people try to get offended? I never said the "poster wasn't a man." That was your implication. Since you want to go down the road of implying and assuming, then why assume hatred in your thread title? Are you just looking for hatred? Is this just a fishing thread?

 

[Harrassment Panda]

ultimately, this is football not tennis.

Actually, it's neither. It's a message board.

 

[kwille]

Thanks Wrigley. I love you man!

 

[jeffngold]

lol @ "this is football, not tennis"maybe we make this a golf forum, golf-clapping only, no cheering, definitely no yelling of any kind, and collared shirts for all?

Why do the message boards have to act like their corresponding sport? This is a discussion forum. Not the actual sport.

 

[jeffngold]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

I'm not sure I disagree with this, but it seems so sad, in a way. Surely people can act civilized to each other? I mean, I guess not as this thread alone is proving. My other question is, why aren't the moderators like Dodds and Bryant policing this? It's almost a reflection on their product. I love this site and what they do, and that is why it is weird to see these boards be at such a level below what they create and provide as a product in the other areas.

Dodds and Bryant shouldn't have to police this. We're all big boys and girls. If you don't like it, move on. Just like anything else in life. No one can make everyone happy, or make any one thing perfect. The Shark Pool is excellent, not perfect. Deal with it.

With all due respect, telling someone to "deal with it" or "move on" really isn't your call to make and is not very friendly. Why make it personal? You like the forum as it is? Fine. You don't think a change is needed? Fine. But why make it personal and imply that the other poster isn't a man and needs to just accept people being insulting and rude? You don't own the site so it isn't your call to make. I can tell you that in the past much of the negative and rude behavior was shut down pretty quickly here. It is one of the things I liked better about FBG compared to the old Antsports that I used to frequent. Antsports got out of hand with people saying the most outrageously insulting things to each other and it becomes a distraction from the point of the boards--which is to talk about fantasy football.

Ok, since you want to make it personal... My statement was "The Shark Pool is excellent, not perfect." Deal with that, don't confuse the good with the perfect. Sheesh, why do people try to get offended? I never said the "poster wasn't a man." That was your implication. Since you want to go down the road of implying and assuming, then why assume hatred in your thread title? Are you just looking for hatred? Is this just a fishing thread?

I posted the title and OP....not the person you are referencing above. But what would I be fishing for? I am not assuming hatred, I am stating what I have seen in other threads. Doesn't mean it has to happen in this thread or in future ones. Just a fact.

 

[Cawbird]

Wrigley just made this post, the message board and world all better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[texasheat]

finally someone said it

Even the cover looks like Catcher in the Rye

 

[billyjohnson]

OK, this is not fantasy football related, but a point that I think needs to be discussed....why is there so much hatred/negativity on this board? I, like many of you, like coming here to listen to other people's opinions about the hot topic of the day in fantasy. And there are many of you that provide their insights in a well thought out, non-abrasive manner. But it seems to me that more and more each day, there is anger, negativity, abuse, and ill-will being brandied on this board.I don't get why? I mean, I know some people have 'internet muscles' so to speak. But seriously, we are all here for the same reason! If you don't agree with people, then great...that is what makes this game fun! But can't we all agree to a more civil board? Everyone would benefit as we would have more discussion and less hate. Topics won't be shut down, and people can actually LEARN something.Sorry to get all hippie-ish on here. It just seems like it needed to be said. Just treat everyone with respect. How hard is that?I know there are many great posters on here and this is not directed at them. Just seems to me that more and more anger is here daily and I think it needs to stop for the good of the board.OK, back to the one hundred Vick and Best topics (kidding )

What YOU have seen in other threads is not necessarily what EVERYONE sees.....and this "hatred" thing is far from fact. Some posters here probably enjoy the witty retorts and sharp one-liner comments. But obviously you do not. But then, isn't it narcissitic to always want to change others to be more like you?Should we now start a thread---WHY THE NARCISSISM?

 

[grabnmcbutt]

Time for a group grope....er I mean hug

 

[ArcticEdge]

New here?

 

[jeffngold]

OK, this is not fantasy football related, but a point that I think needs to be discussed....why is there so much hatred/negativity on this board? I, like many of you, like coming here to listen to other people's opinions about the hot topic of the day in fantasy. And there are many of you that provide their insights in a well thought out, non-abrasive manner. But it seems to me that more and more each day, there is anger, negativity, abuse, and ill-will being brandied on this board.I don't get why? I mean, I know some people have 'internet muscles' so to speak. But seriously, we are all here for the same reason! If you don't agree with people, then great...that is what makes this game fun! But can't we all agree to a more civil board? Everyone would benefit as we would have more discussion and less hate. Topics won't be shut down, and people can actually LEARN something.Sorry to get all hippie-ish on here. It just seems like it needed to be said. Just treat everyone with respect. How hard is that?I know there are many great posters on here and this is not directed at them. Just seems to me that more and more anger is here daily and I think it needs to stop for the good of the board.OK, back to the one hundred Vick and Best topics (kidding )

What YOU have seen in other threads iS not necessarily what EVERYONE sees.....and this "hatred" thing is far from fact. Some posters here probalby enjoy the witty retorts and sharp one-liner comments. But obviously you do not. But then, Isn't it narcissitic to always want to change others to be more like you?Should we now start a thread---WHY THE NARCISSISM?

Not at all! I love the witty retorts and sharp one liners. That is not the issue at all. It's the flaming. Example: Someone posts about a player being available on the waiver wire (The waiver wire thread each week). Someone will respond, "I can't believe Player X is available, step it up and play in a real man's league!" That is not witty, nor sharp, nor informational. Those types of post are meaningless and make this whole place worst. Not to mention the others that are just flat out rude or disrespectful.And I don't want to change others to be like me. I am not witty. I like that others are funny or clever. By all means be witty. You can be witty and respectful though. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

 

[jeffngold]

New here?

Nope. Been a member for a year and lurker well before that.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

OK, this is not fantasy football related, but a point that I think needs to be discussed....why is there so much hatred/negativity on this board? I, like many of you, like coming here to listen to other people's opinions about the hot topic of the day in fantasy. And there are many of you that provide their insights in a well thought out, non-abrasive manner. But it seems to me that more and more each day, there is anger, negativity, abuse, and ill-will being brandied on this board.I don't get why? I mean, I know some people have 'internet muscles' so to speak. But seriously, we are all here for the same reason! If you don't agree with people, then great...that is what makes this game fun! But can't we all agree to a more civil board? Everyone would benefit as we would have more discussion and less hate. Topics won't be shut down, and people can actually LEARN something.Sorry to get all hippie-ish on here. It just seems like it needed to be said. Just treat everyone with respect. How hard is that?I know there are many great posters on here and this is not directed at them. Just seems to me that more and more anger is here daily and I think it needs to stop for the good of the board.OK, back to the one hundred Vick and Best topics (kidding )

I couldn't agree more. I love the site, but it is getting difficult to come here to get information anymore.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

i agree completely ...

 

[3nOut]

Maybe I'm old but I agree with Jeffngold. Maybe its genrational, I don't know. I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with someone, thats how good debate begins. Its the unnecesasry rudeness that I've seen increasing around here and its getting stale. One of the problems is that there is no accountability for bad actions. In 'real life' most people would not say or act like they do behind the safe confines of the internet since there aren't any consequences. Maybe we should start giving out 'strikes' to people who are really offensive and on strike three set them on 'ignore'. If a good majority of people do this, they soon won't have an audience.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

Maybe I'm old but I agree with Jeffngold. Maybe its genrational, I don't know. I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with someone, thats how good debate begins. Its the unnecesasry rudeness that I've seen increasing around here and its getting stale. One of the problems is that there is no accountability for bad actions. In 'real life' most people would not say or act like they do behind the safe confines of the internet since there aren't any consequences. Maybe we should start giving out 'strikes' to people who are really offensive and on strike three set them on 'ignore'. If a good majority of people do this, they soon won't have an audience.

+1I'm going to sound like a geezer here but I think in a lot of ways the internet is one of the worst things that has ever happened to society, in terms of the way people treat each other. It's easy to be rude and disrespectful to someone when you know you'll never have to face any real consequences.I don't succeed 100% of the time but I try to treat people on the internet the same way I would treat them in real life. But then again I'm on the wrong side of 30 and the internet didn't become a part of my daily life until I was 20 or so.

 

[Phrenchdude]

Maybe I'm old but I agree with Jeffngold. Maybe its genrational, I don't know. I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with someone, thats how good debate begins. Its the unnecesasry rudeness that I've seen increasing around here and its getting stale. One of the problems is that there is no accountability for bad actions. In 'real life' most people would not say or act like they do behind the safe confines of the internet since there aren't any consequences. Maybe we should start giving out 'strikes' to people who are really offensive and on strike three set them on 'ignore'. If a good majority of people do this, they soon won't have an audience.

agreed. disagreement isnt bad if it's formualted constructively and in a civil manner. More often than not you're not going to change the other person's mind on a certain topic, but if both sides clearly articulate their arguments, the "public" can better formulate their own opinion. All parties must show enough respect to acknowledge that their opinion isnt an empirical truth and that other opinions may exist, backed up by arguments as well. And if those arguments are deemed week, it'll shine through. No point resortin to name-calling or demeaning, that only weakens one's position and credibility. In the end, it's never a life or death matter, so why should anyone get their panties in a twist over it? And who knows, one may actually learn something from a constructive argument.

everyone should benefit from a constructive and cordial discussion.

 

[Frank Black]

I agree with the OP. I remember how things were on this boad 10 years ago when there was debate without such hostility. I understand that change is inevitable, but the OP's points are well taken.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

well said.

well said but terribly spelled ;=)

 

[BustedKnuckles]

As a Hippy i take great offense to this thread

 

[gregjcross]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

well said.

well said but terribly spelled ;=)

It is sad -sometimes funny- how angry and venomous people get over what essentially will mean nothing in 5 months. Constant one Ups-manship gets old fast.

 

[Phrenchdude]

you will see this on any internet message board that involves people who do not know each other (people tend to be more civilized and curteous to people they konw), sadly it's human nature: people get heated up, ego comes into play, denial in other cases, stubornness and immaturity, etc etc... so many reasons for it.I'm afraid it's pretty inevitable. All you can do is develop a thick skin and learn to phase out and ignore the negativity since it brings nothing to the table. In addition, aggresivity and negativity aims to draw attention, like little kids throwing a tantrum, soif you ignire it, eventually it goes away.if you try to actively change it, you're fighting a losing battle my friend.just carry on, nothing to see there

well said.

well said but terribly spelled ;=)

yeah, i have dyslexic typing and i only just realized this forum had a built-in spell check so thanks for making me check - woohoo for progress!

 

[Clifford]

Brandied?

I kinda feel like getting brandied about right now Don't know who said it but yes this happens on every internet forum known to man.Ok this is funny, I went to a goth forum to try to find goth kids #####ing at each other about whose eye-shadow was blackest and found this. Turns out there are some redeeming qualities of goth culture:I wouldn't be caught dead with a necrophiliac.-- NepheleNow that's funny.

 

[hip80]

As a Hippy i take great offense to this thread

+1 hippie