Wife uses sex as a weapon (1 Viewer)

[iamsmilin]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Oh, I plan on it. Just find her timing to be impeccable.

This seems unethical to me.

Seems reasonable to me. Bogart is no fool.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Bogart is no fool.

I'll wait to see what he does post-divorce to make that determination.

 

[iamsmilin]

Bogart is no fool.

I'll wait to see what he does post-divorce to make that determination.

Reasonable. I hope he plays the field a little and get's his freak on. I always find it weird when a guy gets divorced and then marries again really quickly.

 

[Disco Stu]

Bogart is no fool.

I'll wait to see what he does post-divorce to make that determination.

Reasonable. I hope he plays the field a little and get's his freak on. I always find it weird when a guy gets divorced and then marries again really quickly.

smilin>Hi

 

[Bogart]

Bogart is no fool.

I'll wait to see what he does post-divorce to make that determination.

Reasonable. I hope he plays the field a little and get's his freak on. I always find it weird when a guy gets divorced and then marries again really quickly.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

Doesn't mean you can't try to cross some stuff off your sexual bucket list:SpringfieldTsumani:

 

[General Malaise]

Bogart is no fool.

I'll wait to see what he does post-divorce to make that determination.

Reasonable. I hope he plays the field a little and get's his freak on. I always find it weird when a guy gets divorced and then marries again really quickly.

Totally.

 

[urbanhack]

Bogart is no fool.

I'll wait to see what he does post-divorce to make that determination.

Reasonable. I hope he plays the field a little and get's his freak on. I always find it weird when a guy gets divorced and then marries again really quickly.

Totally.

 

[iamsmilin]

Bogart is no fool.

I'll wait to see what he does post-divorce to make that determination.

Reasonable. I hope he plays the field a little and get's his freak on. I always find it weird when a guy gets divorced and then marries again really quickly.

Totally.

 

[General Malaise]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Hold on a second here fellas...I'm as pro-sex as they come, but this is horrible advice.The title of this thread is "Wife uses sex AS A WEAPON"

Do we really want Bogart falling into this trap on the cusp a divorce? His judgment right now needs to be crisp. Sex as a weapon implies it's been used to manipulate and control and to that end, he needs to avoid that at all costs. If he sleeps with her again, he'll prolong, postpone and perhaps even cancel the divorce altogether. And she knows it.

 

[iamsmilin]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Hold on a second here fellas...I'm as pro-sex as they come, but this is horrible advice.The title of this thread is "Wife uses sex AS A WEAPON"

Do we really want Bogart falling into this trap on the cusp a divorce? His judgment right now needs to be crisp. Sex as a weapon implies it's been used to manipulate and control and to that end, he needs to avoid that at all costs. If he sleeps with her again, he'll prolong, postpone and perhaps even cancel the divorce altogether. And she knows it.

Good points. You can also say, he knows now that she is not the woman for him so her use of sex as power is diminished. He has years of lack of sex to make up for. You know that thing you like but she won't do? Push for it. She'll either do it or she'll get mad and you're getting a divorce anyways, so who cares if she's mad?

 

[Bogart]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Hold on a second here fellas...I'm as pro-sex as they come, but this is horrible advice.The title of this thread is "Wife uses sex AS A WEAPON"

Do we really want Bogart falling into this trap on the cusp a divorce? His judgment right now needs to be crisp. Sex as a weapon implies it's been used to manipulate and control and to that end, he needs to avoid that at all costs. If he sleeps with her again, he'll prolong, postpone and perhaps even cancel the divorce altogether. And she knows it.

Good points. You can also say, he knows now that she is not the woman for him so her use of sex as power is diminished. He has years of lack of sex to make up for. You know that thing you like but she won't do? Push for it. She'll either do it or she'll get mad and you're getting a divorce anyways, so who cares if she's mad?

How do I put this respectfully..... nothing in my wife's bag of tricks is going to make me change my mind going forward. Those things I like, she has either quit doing, never done or doesn't do it to completion.

 

[Bogeys]

You're a good man Bogey and you'll be fine no matter how this works out.

Hey, I am still just over a year married...don't have me getting divorced yet!!!!

 

[Zegras11]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Hold on a second here fellas...I'm as pro-sex as they come, but this is horrible advice.The title of this thread is "Wife uses sex AS A WEAPON"

Do we really want Bogart falling into this trap on the cusp a divorce? His judgment right now needs to be crisp. Sex as a weapon implies it's been used to manipulate and control and to that end, he needs to avoid that at all costs. If he sleeps with her again, he'll prolong, postpone and perhaps even cancel the divorce altogether. And she knows it.

Good points. You can also say, he knows now that she is not the woman for him so her use of sex as power is diminished. He has years of lack of sex to make up for. You know that thing you like but she won't do? Push for it. She'll either do it or she'll get mad and you're getting a divorce anyways, so who cares if she's mad?

How do I put this respectfully..... nothing in my wife's bag of tricks is going to make me change my mind going forward. Those things I like, she has either quit doing, never done or doesn't do it to completion.

And he has to go through with her wishes so he doesn't blow his cover for next week. So there.

 

[Bogart]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Hold on a second here fellas...I'm as pro-sex as they come, but this is horrible advice.The title of this thread is "Wife uses sex AS A WEAPON"

Do we really want Bogart falling into this trap on the cusp a divorce? His judgment right now needs to be crisp. Sex as a weapon implies it's been used to manipulate and control and to that end, he needs to avoid that at all costs. If he sleeps with her again, he'll prolong, postpone and perhaps even cancel the divorce altogether. And she knows it.

Good points. You can also say, he knows now that she is not the woman for him so her use of sex as power is diminished. He has years of lack of sex to make up for. You know that thing you like but she won't do? Push for it. She'll either do it or she'll get mad and you're getting a divorce anyways, so who cares if she's mad?

How do I put this respectfully..... nothing in my wife's bag of tricks is going to make me change my mind going forward. Those things I like, she has either quit doing, never done or doesn't do it to completion.

And he has to go through with her wishes so he doesn't blow his cover for next week. So there.

If I turn her down, every red flag goes up.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Go for the 5 hole

 

[IvanKaramazov]

How do I put this respectfully..... nothing in my wife's bag of tricks is going to make me change my mind going forward. Those things I like, she has either quit doing, never done or doesn't do it to completion.

And he has to go through with her wishes so he doesn't blow his cover for next week. So there.

If I turn her down, every red flag goes up.

If you guys were completely selfish in the bedroom like I am, you wouldn't have this problem. It would just be another day at the office for Mrs. Bogart and she wouldn't suspect a thing.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Hold on a second here fellas...I'm as pro-sex as they come, but this is horrible advice.The title of this thread is "Wife uses sex AS A WEAPON"

Do we really want Bogart falling into this trap on the cusp a divorce? His judgment right now needs to be crisp. Sex as a weapon implies it's been used to manipulate and control and to that end, he needs to avoid that at all costs. If he sleeps with her again, he'll prolong, postpone and perhaps even cancel the divorce altogether. And she knows it.

Good points. You can also say, he knows now that she is not the woman for him so her use of sex as power is diminished. He has years of lack of sex to make up for. You know that thing you like but she won't do? Push for it. She'll either do it or she'll get mad and you're getting a divorce anyways, so who cares if she's mad?

How do I put this respectfully..... nothing in my wife's bag of tricks is going to make me change my mind going forward. Those things I like, she has either quit doing, never done or doesn't do it to completion.

And he has to go through with her wishes so he doesn't blow his cover for next week. So there.

If I turn her upside down, every red flag goes up.

I approve.

 

[Zegras11]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Hold on a second here fellas...I'm as pro-sex as they come, but this is horrible advice.The title of this thread is "Wife uses sex AS A WEAPON"

Do we really want Bogart falling into this trap on the cusp a divorce? His judgment right now needs to be crisp. Sex as a weapon implies it's been used to manipulate and control and to that end, he needs to avoid that at all costs. If he sleeps with her again, he'll prolong, postpone and perhaps even cancel the divorce altogether. And she knows it.

Good points. You can also say, he knows now that she is not the woman for him so her use of sex as power is diminished. He has years of lack of sex to make up for. You know that thing you like but she won't do? Push for it. She'll either do it or she'll get mad and you're getting a divorce anyways, so who cares if she's mad?

How do I put this respectfully..... nothing in my wife's bag of tricks is going to make me change my mind going forward. Those things I like, she has either quit doing, never done or doesn't do it to completion.

And he has to go through with her wishes so he doesn't blow his cover for next week. So there.

If I turn her down, every red flag goes up.

update?

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

My red flag is up.

 

[gianmarco]

Update? Did you have the divorce talk with your wife and/or have you talked about it with your kids yet?

No talk with the wife yet. Can't see a lawyer until next week, and won't talk to her until I meet with a lawyer first. Wife just texted me saying she wants naked time very soon. It's like she can read the situation and knows exactly when she needs to break out the secks card. It's been three weeks. Too little too late.

take it while you can

Hold on a second here fellas...I'm as pro-sex as they come, but this is horrible advice.The title of this thread is "Wife uses sex AS A WEAPON"

Do we really want Bogart falling into this trap on the cusp a divorce? His judgment right now needs to be crisp. Sex as a weapon implies it's been used to manipulate and control and to that end, he needs to avoid that at all costs. If he sleeps with her again, he'll prolong, postpone and perhaps even cancel the divorce altogether. And she knows it.

Good points. You can also say, he knows now that she is not the woman for him so her use of sex as power is diminished. He has years of lack of sex to make up for. You know that thing you like but she won't do? Push for it. She'll either do it or she'll get mad and you're getting a divorce anyways, so who cares if she's mad?

How do I put this respectfully..... nothing in my wife's bag of tricks is going to make me change my mind going forward. Those things I like, she has either quit doing, never done or doesn't do it to completion.

And he has to go through with her wishes so he doesn't blow his cover for next week. So there.

If I turn her down, every red flag goes up.

update?

 

[FDASv2.0]

If I turn her down, every red flag goes up.

update?

Told to me from Bogart, while he is on "vacation":

We did not have sex that night, have not had sex since. I went to a lawyer last week, really enjoyed to concept of talking to someone for 5 bucks a min (first 30 were on her). She felt that as amicable as I was, we might be able to handle this through mediation, so going to meet with a mediator hopefully this week.Had "the talk" with my wife on Sunday night. We were arguing about an issue and she asked "Do you even want to make this work?" I looked her in the eye and said "No." Followed up with "I don't think this can work." She quickly responded with "I didn't ask if you thought it could work, but did you WANT it to work, but you already answered that." I won't bore you with a full play by play of the conversation, but she did pull out the "I want this to work, but if you don't, there is no use" card, the "you must really hate me to destroy our family like this" card, and the "do you think this is what God wants you to do" card. She didn't want an answer then, just to have me "think long and hard about that." She is clearly setting me up to be the bad guy and that is fine. The irony is that after the talk I walk into the bedroom to find two new pieces of lingerie that she was going to surprise me with. After the talk, we actually sat down at dinner and ate and the rest of the evening went like any other evening. This whole week she acts like nothing happened, but the groundwork has been laid. There are no more kisses coming and going, no "I love yous", a couple of information texts only. We only speak if we absolutely have to. We are pleasant around the kids, but she rushes to our room as soon as possible. I sleep in whichever kids' bed is open with one or both kids in my bed.I'm standing firm, and letting her come to grips with this. I haven't yet, but soon I will have to pull out my inner Bob Sugar and give her the "It's real, you should say something" speech. The talk was the hardest thing I have ever had to do, but in the middle of it, I'm screaming in my head "This is IT. You are ####### doing this!!" and felt a sadness, but a calm that I hadn't felt in a long time.

Damn, that Bogart is long winded...

 

[Walton Goggins]

How in the hell did Bogart get a TO? He seems like a pretty cool dude.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I want some inner Bob Sugar.

 

[Big Cat]

If I turn her down, every red flag goes up.

update?

Told to me from Bogart, while he is on "vacation":

We did not have sex that night, have not had sex since. I went to a lawyer last week, really enjoyed to concept of talking to someone for 5 bucks a min (first 30 were on her). She felt that as amicable as I was, we might be able to handle this through mediation, so going to meet with a mediator hopefully this week.Had "the talk" with my wife on Sunday night. We were arguing about an issue and she asked "Do you even want to make this work?" I looked her in the eye and said "No." Followed up with "I don't think this can work." She quickly responded with "I didn't ask if you thought it could work, but did you WANT it to work, but you already answered that." I won't bore you with a full play by play of the conversation, but she did pull out the "I want this to work, but if you don't, there is no use" card, the "you must really hate me to destroy our family like this" card, and the "do you think this is what God wants you to do" card. She didn't want an answer then, just to have me "think long and hard about that." She is clearly setting me up to be the bad guy and that is fine. The irony is that after the talk I walk into the bedroom to find two new pieces of lingerie that she was going to surprise me with. After the talk, we actually sat down at dinner and ate and the rest of the evening went like any other evening. This whole week she acts like nothing happened, but the groundwork has been laid. There are no more kisses coming and going, no "I love yous", a couple of information texts only. We only speak if we absolutely have to. We are pleasant around the kids, but she rushes to our room as soon as possible. I sleep in whichever kids' bed is open with one or both kids in my bed.I'm standing firm, and letting her come to grips with this. I haven't yet, but soon I will have to pull out my inner Bob Sugar and give her the "It's real, you should say something" speech. The talk was the hardest thing I have ever had to do, but in the middle of it, I'm screaming in my head "This is IT. You are ####### doing this!!" and felt a sadness, but a calm that I hadn't felt in a long time.

Damn, that Bogart is long winded...

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

 

[FDASv2.0]

How in the hell did Bogart get a TO? He seems like a pretty cool dude.

We all have lapse in judgements from time to time.

I want some inner Bob Sugar.

Did you enjoy that Ranger beatdown last night?

 

[gianmarco]

If I turn her down, every red flag goes up.

update?

Told to me from Bogart, while he is on "vacation":

We did not have sex that night, have not had sex since. I went to a lawyer last week, really enjoyed to concept of talking to someone for 5 bucks a min (first 30 were on her). She felt that as amicable as I was, we might be able to handle this through mediation, so going to meet with a mediator hopefully this week.Had "the talk" with my wife on Sunday night. We were arguing about an issue and she asked "Do you even want to make this work?" I looked her in the eye and said "No." Followed up with "I don't think this can work." She quickly responded with "I didn't ask if you thought it could work, but did you WANT it to work, but you already answered that." I won't bore you with a full play by play of the conversation, but she did pull out the "I want this to work, but if you don't, there is no use" card, the "you must really hate me to destroy our family like this" card, and the "do you think this is what God wants you to do" card. She didn't want an answer then, just to have me "think long and hard about that." She is clearly setting me up to be the bad guy and that is fine. The irony is that after the talk I walk into the bedroom to find two new pieces of lingerie that she was going to surprise me with. After the talk, we actually sat down at dinner and ate and the rest of the evening went like any other evening. This whole week she acts like nothing happened, but the groundwork has been laid. There are no more kisses coming and going, no "I love yous", a couple of information texts only. We only speak if we absolutely have to. We are pleasant around the kids, but she rushes to our room as soon as possible. I sleep in whichever kids' bed is open with one or both kids in my bed.I'm standing firm, and letting her come to grips with this. I haven't yet, but soon I will have to pull out my inner Bob Sugar and give her the "It's real, you should say something" speech. The talk was the hardest thing I have ever had to do, but in the middle of it, I'm screaming in my head "This is IT. You are ####### doing this!!" and felt a sadness, but a calm that I hadn't felt in a long time.

Damn, that Bogart is long winded...

Good for you....uh........I mean, Bogart.

 

[Walton Goggins]

If I turn her down, every red flag goes up.

update?

Told to me from Bogart, while he is on "vacation":

We did not have sex that night, have not had sex since. I went to a lawyer last week, really enjoyed to concept of talking to someone for 5 bucks a min (first 30 were on her). She felt that as amicable as I was, we might be able to handle this through mediation, so going to meet with a mediator hopefully this week.Had "the talk" with my wife on Sunday night. We were arguing about an issue and she asked "Do you even want to make this work?" I looked her in the eye and said "No." Followed up with "I don't think this can work." She quickly responded with "I didn't ask if you thought it could work, but did you WANT it to work, but you already answered that." I won't bore you with a full play by play of the conversation, but she did pull out the "I want this to work, but if you don't, there is no use" card, the "you must really hate me to destroy our family like this" card, and the "do you think this is what God wants you to do" card. She didn't want an answer then, just to have me "think long and hard about that." She is clearly setting me up to be the bad guy and that is fine. The irony is that after the talk I walk into the bedroom to find two new pieces of lingerie that she was going to surprise me with. After the talk, we actually sat down at dinner and ate and the rest of the evening went like any other evening. This whole week she acts like nothing happened, but the groundwork has been laid. There are no more kisses coming and going, no "I love yous", a couple of information texts only. We only speak if we absolutely have to. We are pleasant around the kids, but she rushes to our room as soon as possible. I sleep in whichever kids' bed is open with one or both kids in my bed.I'm standing firm, and letting her come to grips with this. I haven't yet, but soon I will have to pull out my inner Bob Sugar and give her the "It's real, you should say something" speech. The talk was the hardest thing I have ever had to do, but in the middle of it, I'm screaming in my head "This is IT. You are ####### doing this!!" and felt a sadness, but a calm that I hadn't felt in a long time.

Damn, that Bogart is long winded...

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

 

[FDASv2.0]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I want some inner Bob Sugar.

Did you enjoy that Ranger beatdown last night?

I'm no Angels fan and respect the fact Texas has built one helluva team. I was rooting for a blimp to crash on the field and kill players from both teams but other than that I was pulling for the Rangers. Tell Bogart congrats for taking the blame she's tossing at him in stride.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

good job Bogart

 

[culdeus]

When do you move out?

 

[Big Cat]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

 

[Ray Karpis]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

WTF is the world coming to? So because there are sick people out there that molest their own kids, you can't fall asleep with your girls after reading them a story? Unless there was some reason for your wife to have a concern that you're not mentioning, you're ex-wife is a black-hearted devil for letting her lawyer demand this.

 

[gianmarco]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

WTF is the world coming to? So because there are sick people out there that molest their own kids, you can't fall asleep with your girls after reading them a story? Unless there was some reason for your wife to have a concern that you're not mentioning, you're ex-wife is a black-hearted devil for letting her lawyer demand this.

 

[Big Cat]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

WTF is the world coming to? So because there are sick people out there that molest their own kids, you can't fall asleep with your girls after reading them a story? Unless there was some reason for your wife to have a concern that you're not mentioning, you're wife is a black-hearted devil for letting her lawyer demand this.

I wonder whether the ex even read any of the crap her lawyer filed. When I had to respond in kind by citing her shortcomings in parenting, she broke down in tears saying she never said anything bad about me. But obviously, she must have told the lawyer about it in order for the lawyer to write it up as part of the custody papers.

 

[FDASv2.0]

When do you move out?

This is the next question. Son has Meet The Teacher tomorrow night and starts second grade on Monday. I'm thinking we can keep up this current situation for another week or so, let him get adjusted back to school routine and then make the move.I told my boss about how my wife was acting like nothing happened, and she said she had a friend in the same situation, and his wife didn't acknowledge the situation until he packed up some stuff and was physically walking out the door.

 

[3 hour lunch]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

WTF is the world coming to? So because there are sick people out there that molest their own kids, you can't fall asleep with your girls after reading them a story? Unless there was some reason for your wife to have a concern that you're not mentioning, you're ex-wife is a black-hearted devil for letting her lawyer demand this.

Wow, no ####. For some reason, this makes me about as mad as anything I've ever read. Probably becuase I have two girls as well. There really is no common sense in this world anymore.

 

[Walton Goggins]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

You think if things get ugly her lawyer may not imply that you are sleeping in a separate bed? Again what you are doing is nothing wrong IMO but I've been through enough to know what's totally fine in real life, in court, the other side can imply something totally different. If accusations are made against you then YOU will need to prove those to be false, not them.

 

[Walton Goggins]

When do you move out?

That's one of the worst moves he can make.

 

[Walton Goggins]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

Remember it's your soon to be ex lawyer's job to try and do anything to discredit / make you look like you are an unfit father.I have two daughter's both very young and it's sad just because you are the father that you have to be careful. If you had a son and your wife was doing this nothing would be said.

 

[Walton Goggins]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

WTF is the world coming to? So because there are sick people out there that molest their own kids, you can't fall asleep with your girls after reading them a story? Unless there was some reason for your wife to have a concern that you're not mentioning, you're ex-wife is a black-hearted devil for letting her lawyer demand this.

I totally agree but from someone who went through a pretty bad divorce you learn real quick being a father and having daughters you have to watch yourself and not leave the other side ammo to use against you.You should pretty much bank on the fact if this gets to the point of having to go to court you will have some sort of accusations thrown against you. If you think her lawyer is going to stand up there and say what a wonderful father you are then that hurts his clients chances of custody and $$$ payout.

 

[Walton Goggins]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Her lawyer: You are not sleeping in an Empty bed, my client has seen with her own eyes that you were sleeping with the children.Why would a judge just assume you are telling the truth and not her? See the issue here?

 

[FDASv2.0]

When do you move out?

That's one of the worst moves he can make.

I disagree. My lawyer was surprised that we were not separated already. Almost no one visits a lawyer until after that point (thanks FFA for the suggestion). She gave me clear suggestions on how to handle the move, how to tell the kids, etc.

 

[Walton Goggins]

When do you move out?

That's one of the worst moves he can make.

I disagree. My lawyer was surprised that we were not separated already. Almost no one visits a lawyer until after that point (thanks FFA for the suggestion). She gave me clear suggestions on how to handle the move, how to tell the kids, etc.

Sorry but this is one of the worst moves you can make.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

When do you move out?

That's one of the worst moves he can make.

I disagree. My lawyer was surprised that we were not separated already. Almost no one visits a lawyer until after that point (thanks FFA for the suggestion). She gave me clear suggestions on how to handle the move, how to tell the kids, etc.

Sorry but this is one of the worst moves you can make.

I agree. Take the advice of the most notoriously misogynistic FFA-er over your attorney. I'm sure your circumstances are identical to his and time has stood still since his divorce.

 

[Walton Goggins]

When do you move out?

That's one of the worst moves he can make.

I disagree. My lawyer was surprised that we were not separated already. Almost no one visits a lawyer until after that point (thanks FFA for the suggestion). She gave me clear suggestions on how to handle the move, how to tell the kids, etc.

Sorry but this is one of the worst moves you can make.

I agree. Take the advice of the most notoriously misogynistic FFA-er over your attorney. I'm sure your circumstances are identical to his and time has stood still since his divorce.

Unless his lawyer tells him why he should move out then no don't make the mistake that many men make and just leave. It'll be used against you. Now, if you hire a lawyer and there's an agreement for him to move out because (fill in reason) then that's fine and it's a mutual agreement. If not then their side can say if you are such a great father why did you bail on your kids? She wanted the marriage to work and tried everything but you just bailed.My advice is what I went through and was told to me. I was fortunate to have excellent lawyers representing me. Take the advice or not.FYI: My ex left the house and that came back to hurt her in regards to custody and child support.

 

[Walton Goggins]

When do you move out?

That's one of the worst moves he can make.

I disagree. My lawyer was surprised that we were not separated already. Almost no one visits a lawyer until after that point (thanks FFA for the suggestion). She gave me clear suggestions on how to handle the move, how to tell the kids, etc.

My response was in regards to the man simply moving out before seeking legal counsel.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

This is difficult for me to believe.

 

[toadstool]

What do you think about the idea of sleeping with one or more of the kids, goggs? If the divorce takes a bad turn, that might not look so good on paper, would it?

Personally there's nothing wrong with it BUT if this does go to court why wouldn't her lawyer make this more than it really is? I personally wouldn't do this because all it would take is for her to call CPS then accuse Bogart of doing something inappropriate and he'll have to pay a bunch of money to prove he is innocent.

Let me clarify. I am sleeping in an EMPTY bed. One or both of my kids wake up before I go to sleep and end up in our huge king size bed. It's not odd for most mornings prior to this for my wife and I go to sleep just the two of us, and wake up with four in the bed. There is no issue here.

Actually, this very thing became an issue when I got divorced. Two girls were aged 7 and 6 and they shared a room and a queen-sized bed while we were married. My SOP was to read them a story and then lie in the middle, on top of the covers, while they both fell asleep under the covers. After they fell asleep, which was usually 30 minutes or so, I would leave the room. There was absolutely nothing inappropriate going on, and the girls really liked to fall asleep in my arms. But that didn't stop the ex's lawyer from making an issue out of it. I actually had to agree, in writing, not to do this in order to have visitation with them. Needless to say, the girls could not understand why I had to leave the room after reading their story from that point forward. So it is something to be careful about.

I find this to be one of those complete internet made up stories. There is either more to the story that you aren't telling us (sexual assults in your past, drug use, drunk, a love of little boys, ...) or you are lying.